• (ReacTor) Five SFF Stories Featuring Highly Intelligent Animals

    From jdnicoll@jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Aug 11 14:21:26 2026
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    Five SFF Stories Featuring Highly Intelligent Animals

    Mutant mice, a witch's feline companion, a raccoon detective, and more...

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  • From BobbieSellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Aug 11 09:29:39 2026
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    On 8/11/26 07:21, James Nicoll wrote:
    Five SFF Stories Featuring Highly Intelligent Animals

    Mutant mice, a witch's feline companion, a raccoon detective, and more...

    https://reactormag.com/five-sff-stories-featuring-highly-intelligent-animals/

    Do not forget the Aeslin mice in the Incryptid series. They undertake long journeys to get the stories of their worshipped people
    back to the rest of the flock.

    bliss
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  • From wollman@wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Aug 11 17:47:56 2026
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    In article <115fb56$sfq$1@reader1.panix.com>,
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    Five SFF Stories Featuring Highly Intelligent Animals

    Mutant mice, a witch's feline companion, a raccoon detective, and more...

    https://reactormag.com/five-sff-stories-featuring-highly-intelligent-animals/

    I do not doubt that there are some significant exceptions,(*) but I
    think the record will show that almost every SFF story features highly intelligent animals.

    -GAWollman

    (*) AI and robot stories, I guess. Are cyborgs animals? Discuss.
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  • From Tony Nance@tnusenet17@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Aug 11 13:48:16 2026
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    On 8/11/26 10:21 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    Five SFF Stories Featuring Highly Intelligent Animals

    Mutant mice, a witch's feline companion, a raccoon detective, and more...

    https://reactormag.com/five-sff-stories-featuring-highly-intelligent-animals/

    Very interesting - thanks.

    A much too quick survey of my shelves yielded the following examples:
    Kipling - Jungle Book
    Cordwainer Smith - Instrumentality of Mankind (lots)
    Simak - City (I remember dogs and ants - were there others?)
    OrCOBrien - Mrs Frisby & the Rats of NIMH
    Brust - jhereg (Dragaera universe)
    Butcher - Harry DresdenrCOs dog Mouse (and presumably other temple dogs) Reynolds - hyperpigs, dolphins (Revelation Space);
    - Tantors (elephants[1] - Poseidon's Children series)
    Andrews - at least one grizzly bear (Hidden Legacy series)
    Aaronovitch - some foxes (Rivers of London series)


    Tony
    [1] Tantors emphatically say they are no longer elephants, and take
    offense when they are called elephants.
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  • From ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan@tednolan to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Aug 11 18:36:51 2026
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    In article <115fn90$6486$1@dont-email.me>,
    Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 8/11/26 10:21 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    Five SFF Stories Featuring Highly Intelligent Animals

    Mutant mice, a witch's feline companion, a raccoon detective, and more...

    https://reactormag.com/five-sff-stories-featuring-highly-intelligent-animals/

    Very interesting - thanks.

    A much too quick survey of my shelves yielded the following examples:
    Kipling - Jungle Book
    Cordwainer Smith - Instrumentality of Mankind (lots)
    Simak - City (I remember dogs and ants - were there others?)
    OrCOBrien - Mrs Frisby & the Rats of NIMH
    Brust - jhereg (Dragaera universe)
    Butcher - Harry DresdenrCOs dog Mouse (and presumably other temple dogs) >Reynolds - hyperpigs, dolphins (Revelation Space);
    - Tantors (elephants[1] - Poseidon's Children series)
    Andrews - at least one grizzly bear (Hidden Legacy series)
    Aaronovitch - some foxes (Rivers of London series)


    Tony
    [1] Tantors emphatically say they are no longer elephants, and take
    offense when they are called elephants.

    Then there are edge cases like Tormals (probably not) & Norbears (probably so). --
    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..
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  • From Tony Nance@tnusenet17@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Aug 11 14:58:40 2026
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    On 8/11/26 2:36 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <115fn90$6486$1@dont-email.me>,
    Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 8/11/26 10:21 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    Five SFF Stories Featuring Highly Intelligent Animals

    Mutant mice, a witch's feline companion, a raccoon detective, and more... >>>
    https://reactormag.com/five-sff-stories-featuring-highly-intelligent-animals/

    Very interesting - thanks.

    A much too quick survey of my shelves yielded the following examples:
    Kipling - Jungle Book
    Cordwainer Smith - Instrumentality of Mankind (lots)
    Simak - City (I remember dogs and ants - were there others?)
    OrCOBrien - Mrs Frisby & the Rats of NIMH
    Brust - jhereg (Dragaera universe)
    Butcher - Harry DresdenrCOs dog Mouse (and presumably other temple dogs)
    Reynolds - hyperpigs, dolphins (Revelation Space);
    - Tantors (elephants[1] - Poseidon's Children series)
    Andrews - at least one grizzly bear (Hidden Legacy series)
    Aaronovitch - some foxes (Rivers of London series)


    Tony
    [1] Tantors emphatically say they are no longer elephants, and take
    offense when they are called elephants.

    Then there are edge cases like Tormals (probably not)

    Heavens to Murgatroyd - I'd forgotten about them. (and agreed - probably
    not)


    & Norbears (probably so).

    And them. (and agreed - probably so)
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  • From William Hyde@wthyde1953@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Aug 11 16:57:28 2026
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    Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <115fn90$6486$1@dont-email.me>,
    Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 8/11/26 10:21 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    Five SFF Stories Featuring Highly Intelligent Animals

    Mutant mice, a witch's feline companion, a raccoon detective, and more... >>>
    https://reactormag.com/five-sff-stories-featuring-highly-intelligent-animals/

    Very interesting - thanks.

    A much too quick survey of my shelves yielded the following examples:
    Kipling - Jungle Book
    Cordwainer Smith - Instrumentality of Mankind (lots)
    Simak - City (I remember dogs and ants - were there others?)
    O|ore4raoBrien - Mrs Frisby & the Rats of NIMH
    Brust - jhereg (Dragaera universe)
    Butcher - Harry Dresden|ore4raos dog Mouse (and presumably other temple dogs)
    Reynolds - hyperpigs, dolphins (Revelation Space);
    - Tantors (elephants[1] - Poseidon's Children series)
    Andrews - at least one grizzly bear (Hidden Legacy series)
    Aaronovitch - some foxes (Rivers of London series)


    Tony
    [1] Tantors emphatically say they are no longer elephants, and take
    offense when they are called elephants.

    Then there are edge cases like Tormals (probably not) & Norbears (probably so).

    The enhanced dogs in "Starship Troopers" are offstage so it's hard to
    say how smart they are, but they can talk.

    William Hyde
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  • From scott@scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Aug 11 21:04:51 2026
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    William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> writes:
    Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
    In article <115fn90$6486$1@dont-email.me>,
    Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 8/11/26 10:21 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    Five SFF Stories Featuring Highly Intelligent Animals

    Mutant mice, a witch's feline companion, a raccoon detective, and more... >>>>
    https://reactormag.com/five-sff-stories-featuring-highly-intelligent-animals/

    Very interesting - thanks.

    A much too quick survey of my shelves yielded the following examples:
    Kipling - Jungle Book
    Cordwainer Smith - Instrumentality of Mankind (lots)
    Simak - City (I remember dogs and ants - were there others?)
    O|ore4raoBrien - Mrs Frisby & the Rats of NIMH
    Brust - jhereg (Dragaera universe)
    Butcher - Harry Dresden|ore4raos dog Mouse (and presumably other temple dogs)
    Reynolds - hyperpigs, dolphins (Revelation Space);
    - Tantors (elephants[1] - Poseidon's Children series)
    Andrews - at least one grizzly bear (Hidden Legacy series)
    Aaronovitch - some foxes (Rivers of London series)


    Tony
    [1] Tantors emphatically say they are no longer elephants, and take
    offense when they are called elephants.

    Then there are edge cases like Tormals (probably not) & Norbears (probably so).

    The enhanced dogs in "Starship Troopers" are offstage so it's hard to
    say how smart they are, but they can talk.


    There were also superintelligent talking dogs in _Methuselah's Children_.
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  • From wollman@wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Aug 11 21:58:27 2026
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    In article <115g2bo$aiuh$2@dont-email.me>,
    William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    The enhanced dogs in "Starship Troopers" are offstage so it's hard to
    say how smart they are, but they can talk.

    This again raises the issue: humans are also highly intelligent
    animals. At what point does it no longer make sense to talk about
    "intelligent animals" as if "non-human" is implied. Because of course
    nearly any alien is also going to be an intelligent animal (unless
    it's an AI, plant, or robot), unless you're going to insist on a
    cladistic definition of "animal" (which still includes humans but
    excludes anything that didn't evolve on earth). At some point you
    have to allow that "people" is wider than "human", and then the whole
    framing of "highly intelligent animals" breaks down.

    -GAWollman
    --
    Garrett A. Wollman | "Act to avoid constraining the future; if you can, wollman@bimajority.org| act to remove constraint from the future. This is Opinions not shared by| a thing you can do, are able to do, to do together."
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  • From BobbieSellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Aug 11 15:34:33 2026
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    On 8/11/26 09:29, BobbieSellers wrote:
    On 8/11/26 07:21, James Nicoll wrote:
    Five SFF Stories Featuring Highly Intelligent Animals

    Mutant mice, a witch's feline companion, a raccoon detective, and more...

    https://reactormag.com/five-sff-stories-featuring-highly-intelligent-
    animals/

    -a-a-a-aDo not forget the Aeslin mice in the Incryptid series.-a They undertake long journeys to get the stories of their worshipped people
    back to the rest of the flock.

    -a-a-a-abliss

    And in my old slow memory I dug up an Olaf Stapledon story I read in the 1950s. Sirius a Novel by Olaf Stapledon
    Sirius is a 1944 science fiction novel by the British philosopher and
    author Olaf Stapledon, whose title character is a dog named Sirius with humanlike intelligence. A sense of existential questioning suffuses the
    book, as the author delves into aspects of Sirius's psyche. The novel
    deals with many human issues through Sirius and his experiences, his
    unusual nature, his ideas and his relationships with humans.
    The Wiki entry is longer.

    The outcome is ultimately tragic as in the other
    Stapledon story that influenced me strongly "Odd John"
    which is about more than human mutants.

    Every SF story is about animals though the elves, gnomes.
    leprechauns and especially the humans would deny it.
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  • From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Aug 11 17:40:22 2026
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    On 8/11/2026 9:21 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    Five SFF Stories Featuring Highly Intelligent Animals

    Mutant mice, a witch's feline companion, a raccoon detective, and more...

    https://reactormag.com/five-sff-stories-featuring-highly-intelligent-animals/

    Zero for me again.

    A few great animal SF/F stories:
    1. The Pip and Flynx books by Alan Dean Foster
    2. "The Zero Stone" by Andre Norton
    3. "Daybreak-2250 A.D." by Andre Norton
    4. The Incryptid books by Seanan McGuire - Aeslin Mice of course
    5. "Flowers for Algernon" by Daniel Keyes
    6. "The Last Dog on Earth" by Adrian Walker
    7. "The Inheritance" by Ilona Andrews
    8. "Monster Hunter International" by Larry Correia
    9. "Agent To The Stars" by John Scazi
    10. "Burn for Me (Hidden Legacy, 1)" by Ilona Andrews
    11. "Ariel" by Steven R. Boyett
    12. "Dogs of War" by Adrian Tchaikovsky

    Lynn

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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Aug 11 20:03:30 2026
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    Garrett Wollman <wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> wrote:
    This again raises the issue: humans are also highly intelligent
    animals. At what point does it no longer make sense to talk about >"intelligent animals" as if "non-human" is implied. Because of course
    nearly any alien is also going to be an intelligent animal (unless
    it's an AI, plant, or robot), unless you're going to insist on a
    cladistic definition of "animal" (which still includes humans but
    excludes anything that didn't evolve on earth). At some point you
    have to allow that "people" is wider than "human", and then the whole
    framing of "highly intelligent animals" breaks down.

    This is the whole point of Cordwainer Smith's discussion of the
    underpeople. I cannot answer your question but C'Mell may be able to.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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  • From Ignatios Souvatzis@u502sou@bnhb484.de to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Aug 13 14:36:49 2026
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    James Nicoll wrote:
    Five SFF Stories Featuring Highly Intelligent Animals

    Mutant mice, a witch's feline companion, a raccoon detective, and more...

    https://reactormag.com/five-sff-stories-featuring-highly-intelligent-animals/

    A.A.Milne, Pooh the Bear
    Max Kruse, Urmel aus dem Eis (and 11 more in the series)

    -is
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    A medium apple... weighs 182 grams, yields 95 kcal, and contains no
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Aug 13 13:18:16 2026
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    Ignatios Souvatzis <u502sou@bnhb484.de> wrote:
    James Nicoll wrote:
    Five SFF Stories Featuring Highly Intelligent Animals

    Mutant mice, a witch's feline companion, a raccoon detective, and more...

    https://reactormag.com/five-sff-stories-featuring-highly-intelligent-animals/

    A.A.Milne, Pooh the Bear

    Pooh might be wise, but he is not highly intelligent. And Owl acts like he
    has an MBA.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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  • From Cryptoengineer@petertrei@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Aug 13 14:31:22 2026
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    On 8/13/2026 1:18 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Ignatios Souvatzis <u502sou@bnhb484.de> wrote:
    James Nicoll wrote:
    Five SFF Stories Featuring Highly Intelligent Animals

    Mutant mice, a witch's feline companion, a raccoon detective, and more... >>>
    https://reactormag.com/five-sff-stories-featuring-highly-intelligent-animals/

    A.A.Milne, Pooh the Bear

    Pooh might be wise, but he is not highly intelligent. And Owl acts like he has an MBA.
    --scott


    You mean, Owl acts like he knows and understands everything, but it
    falls apart on examination?

    From The House at Pooh Corner:

    "He could spell his own name WOL, and
    he could spell Tuesday so that you knew
    it wasn't Wednesday..."

    pt


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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Aug 13 15:40:23 2026
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    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

    You mean, Owl acts like he knows and understands everything, but it
    falls apart on examination?

    From The House at Pooh Corner:

    "He could spell his own name WOL, and
    he could spell Tuesday so that you knew
    it wasn't Wednesday..."

    Yes. Compare that with:

    "Enterprise Information Portals are the Delivery Vehicle for Knowledge
    Management. Enterprise Information Portals (EIPs) rapidly are becoming
    the integration frameworks and transformation engines in the organization."

    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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  • From scott@scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Aug 13 21:16:34 2026
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    kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

    You mean, Owl acts like he knows and understands everything, but it
    falls apart on examination?

    From The House at Pooh Corner:

    "He could spell his own name WOL, and
    he could spell Tuesday so that you knew
    it wasn't Wednesday..."

    Yes. Compare that with:

    "Enterprise Information Portals are the Delivery Vehicle for Knowledge
    Management. Enterprise Information Portals (EIPs) rapidly are becoming
    the integration frameworks and transformation engines in the organization."

    I'm not sure I glean your meaning...
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  • From William Hyde@wthyde1953@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Aug 13 18:32:56 2026
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    Scott Lurndal wrote:
    kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

    You mean, Owl acts like he knows and understands everything, but it
    falls apart on examination?

    From The House at Pooh Corner:

    "He could spell his own name WOL, and
    he could spell Tuesday so that you knew
    it wasn't Wednesday..."

    Yes. Compare that with:

    "Enterprise Information Portals are the Delivery Vehicle for Knowledge
    Management. Enterprise Information Portals (EIPs) rapidly are becoming
    the integration frameworks and transformation engines in the organization."

    I'm not sure I glean your meaning...

    He means "Eschew obfuscation".

    William Hyde
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  • From scott@scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Aug 13 22:55:13 2026
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    William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> writes:
    Scott Lurndal wrote:
    kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

    You mean, Owl acts like he knows and understands everything, but it
    falls apart on examination?

    From The House at Pooh Corner:

    "He could spell his own name WOL, and
    he could spell Tuesday so that you knew
    it wasn't Wednesday..."

    Yes. Compare that with:

    "Enterprise Information Portals are the Delivery Vehicle for Knowledge
    Management. Enterprise Information Portals (EIPs) rapidly are becoming
    the integration frameworks and transformation engines in the organization." >>
    I'm not sure I glean your meaning...

    He means "Eschew obfuscation".

    Ha!

    "glean" -is- an "EIP" :-)

    https://www.glean.com/

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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Aug 13 19:14:15 2026
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    Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
    kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

    You mean, Owl acts like he knows and understands everything, but it
    falls apart on examination?

    From The House at Pooh Corner:

    "He could spell his own name WOL, and
    he could spell Tuesday so that you knew
    it wasn't Wednesday..."

    Yes. Compare that with:

    "Enterprise Information Portals are the Delivery Vehicle for Knowledge
    Management. Enterprise Information Portals (EIPs) rapidly are becoming
    the integration frameworks and transformation engines in the organization."

    I'm not sure I glean your meaning...

    That latter statement translates as "Companies change as people get
    more information from centrallized web pages" but takes three lines
    and many syllables to say it. Owl would have approved.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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  • From Steve Coltrin@spcoltri@omcl.org to rec.arts.sf.written on Fri Aug 14 08:52:55 2026
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    begin fnord
    kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:

    Yes. Compare that with:

    "Enterprise Information Portals are the Delivery Vehicle for Knowledge
    Management. Enterprise Information Portals (EIPs) rapidly are becoming
    the integration frameworks and transformation engines in the organization."

    Bet you the wankstain who wrote that thought a) split infinitives are
    bad and b) "are rapidly becoming" is a split infinitive.

    Or maybe they're just stupid.
    --
    Steve Coltrin spcoltri@omcl.org
    "A group known as the League of Human Dignity helped arrange for Deuel
    to be driven to a local livestock scale, where he could be weighed."
    - Associated Press
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to rec.arts.sf.written on Fri Aug 14 17:23:33 2026
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    Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> wrote:
    kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:

    Yes. Compare that with:

    "Enterprise Information Portals are the Delivery Vehicle for Knowledge
    Management. Enterprise Information Portals (EIPs) rapidly are becoming
    the integration frameworks and transformation engines in the organization."

    Bet you the wankstain who wrote that thought a) split infinitives are
    bad and b) "are rapidly becoming" is a split infinitive.

    Or maybe they're just stupid.

    Most likely the latter. You attribute too much thought to the aforementioned wankstain.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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