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Five SF Works About Building a New Nation

Sure, societal collapse is inherently dramatic but nation-founding
can be exciting too!

https://reactormag.com/five-sf-works-about-building-a-new-nation/
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jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) writes:

Five SF Works About Building a New Nation

Sure, societal collapse is inherently dramatic but nation-founding
can be exciting too!

https://reactormag.com/five-sf-works-about-building-a-new-nation/

Re your comment in the reactormag.com thread about underground cities and water:

<https://19january2021snapshot.epa.gov/sites/static/files/documents/CheyenneMtnSOB.pdf>
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On 8/3/2026 9:16 AM, James Nicoll wrote:

Five SF Works About Building a New Nation

Sure, societal collapse is inherently dramatic but nation-founding
can be exciting too!

https://reactormag.com/five-sf-works-about-building-a-new-nation/

One for five this time, "Nor Crystal Tears" is a great book.

Lynn

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Verily, in article <114r49v$1mms6$2@dont-email.me>, did lynnmcguire5
@gmail.com deliver unto us this message:

On 8/3/2026 9:16 AM, James Nicoll wrote:

Five SF Works About Building a New Nation

Sure, societal collapse is inherently dramatic but nation-founding
can be exciting too!

https://reactormag.com/five-sf-works-about-building-a-new-nation/

One for five this time, "Nor Crystal Tears" is a great book.

I also liked that one. It's been a long time, but I remember Ryo.
--
The meek shall inherit, we're told,
But I'm not so easily sold.
For supposing they should,
It would do them no good --
They'd lose it at once to the bold.
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In article <2l5cS.3925$nSae.3269@fx47.iad>,
Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:

jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) writes:

Five SF Works About Building a New Nation

Sure, societal collapse is inherently dramatic but nation-founding
can be exciting too!

https://reactormag.com/five-sf-works-about-building-a-new-nation/

Re your comment in the reactormag.com thread about underground cities
and water:

<https://19january2021snapshot.epa.gov/sites/static/files/documents/CheyenneMtnSOB.pdf>

Thank you!
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On 8/3/2026 5:32 PM, The True Melissa wrote:

Verily, in article <114r49v$1mms6$2@dont-email.me>, did lynnmcguire5 @gmail.com deliver unto us this message:

On 8/3/2026 9:16 AM, James Nicoll wrote:

Five SF Works About Building a New Nation

Sure, societal collapse is inherently dramatic but nation-founding
can be exciting too!

https://reactormag.com/five-sf-works-about-building-a-new-nation/

One for five this time, "Nor Crystal Tears" is a great book.

I also liked that one. It's been a long time, but I remember Ryo.

It has been so long since I read that book, maybe 40 years, that I
cannot remember the details. Thanks for the remembering.

Lynn

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In article <114ta1r$2c9de$1@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/3/2026 5:32 PM, The True Melissa wrote:

Verily, in article <114r49v$1mms6$2@dont-email.me>, did lynnmcguire5
@gmail.com deliver unto us this message:

On 8/3/2026 9:16 AM, James Nicoll wrote:

Five SF Works About Building a New Nation

Sure, societal collapse is inherently dramatic but nation-founding
can be exciting too!

https://reactormag.com/five-sf-works-about-building-a-new-nation/

One for five this time, "Nor Crystal Tears" is a great book.

I also liked that one. It's been a long time, but I remember Ryo.

It has been so long since I read that book, maybe 40 years, that I
cannot remember the details. Thanks for the remembering.

Lynn

Some years ago I reviewed Rob J. Hayes grimdark pirate
dulogy "Best Laid Plans".

In the event I did not like it at all, but it did cover the founding
of the pirate kingdom.

Perry Rhodan, of course, founds a new (arguably traitorous) nation
in the Gobi desert.
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On Mon, 3 Aug 2026 14:16:05 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
Nicoll) wrote:

Five SF Works About Building a New Nation

Sure, societal collapse is inherently dramatic but nation-founding
can be exciting too!

https://reactormag.com/five-sf-works-about-building-a-new-nation/

The first thing that the plot synopsis of The City Under Ground
reminded me of was Logan's Run!

John Savard
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On 4 Aug 2026 18:49:38 GMT, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:

Perry Rhodan, of course, founds a new (arguably traitorous) nation
in the Gobi desert.

TheyrCOre only rCLtraitorousrCY if they donrCOt get away with it.
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In article <11596ds$23qqf$1@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence D Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On 4 Aug 2026 18:49:38 GMT, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:

Perry Rhodan, of course, founds a new (arguably traitorous) nation
in the Gobi desert.

TheyrCOre only rCLtraitorousrCY if they donrCOt get away with it.

Hmm. I don't think it's analogous to the famous "Treason" quote
since The Third Power was exogenous to the US. Although I suppose
it ceased to matter in the end as the formerly soverign states
eventually signed on.
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