• Keith Laumer

    From BCFD 36@bcfd36@cruzio.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Jun 22 12:58:33 2026
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    In another thread, the subject of Keith Laumer's Bolo stories was
    brought up. So I started looking them up to see if the title that
    reminded me of something was what I was remembering. Close, but not
    quite. I digress.

    In the process of looking up the short stories, I came across some books
    in PDF, a couple of anthologies and maybe a novel: A Plague of Demons
    (the novel that I originally spelled Daemons due to my Comp Sci
    background intruding), The World Turned Upside Down (anthology with The
    Last Command and also A Gun for Dinosaur, Who Goes There?, St. Dragon
    and the George, The Cold Equations, A Pail of Air among a bunch of
    others whose titles I did not recognize), and The Big Show (all Laumer stories).

    I've started working my way through The World Turned Upside Down. So
    far, they are OK to good, but nothing great yet. The Last Command was
    close to great, but... I don't know. But good enough I remembered the
    plot pretty well after at least 50 years. So, maybe great?
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  • From WolfFan@akwolffan@zoho.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Jun 22 17:38:52 2026
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    On Jun 22, 2026, BCFD 36 wrote
    (in article <111c45a$2hhj0$12@dont-email.me>):

    In another thread, the subject of Keith Laumer's Bolo stories was
    brought up. So I started looking them up to see if the title that
    reminded me of something was what I was remembering. Close, but not
    quite. I digress.

    In the process of looking up the short stories, I came across some books
    in PDF, a couple of anthologies and maybe a novel: A Plague of Demons
    (the novel that I originally spelled Daemons due to my Comp Sci
    background intruding), The World Turned Upside Down (anthology with The
    Last Command and also A Gun for Dinosaur, Who Goes There?, St. Dragon
    and the George, The Cold Equations, A Pail of Air among a bunch of
    others whose titles I did not recognize), and The Big Show (all Laumer stories).

    I've started working my way through The World Turned Upside Down. So
    far, they are OK to good, but nothing great yet. The Last Command was
    close to great, but... I don't know. But good enough I remembered the
    plot pretty well after at least 50 years. So, maybe great?

    St Dragon and the George is a Gordon R Dickson story. A Pail of Air is a Fitz Lieber story. A Gun For Dinosaur is a L Sprague de Camp story. Who Goes There is probably a John Campbell story, and would be the basis for the The Thing movies. And The Cold Equations is a Tom Godwin story. ThererCOre all
    classics.

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  • From jdnicoll@jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Jun 22 21:45:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <111c45a$2hhj0$12@dont-email.me>,
    BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> wrote:
    In another thread, the subject of Keith Laumer's Bolo stories was
    brought up. So I started looking them up to see if the title that
    reminded me of something was what I was remembering. Close, but not
    quite. I digress.

    In the process of looking up the short stories, I came across some books
    in PDF, a couple of anthologies and maybe a novel: A Plague of Demons
    (the novel that I originally spelled Daemons due to my Comp Sci
    background intruding), The World Turned Upside Down (anthology with The
    Last Command and also A Gun for Dinosaur, Who Goes There?, St. Dragon
    and the George, The Cold Equations, A Pail of Air among a bunch of
    others whose titles I did not recognize), and The Big Show (all Laumer >stories).

    I've started working my way through The World Turned Upside Down. So
    far, they are OK to good, but nothing great yet. The Last Command was
    close to great, but... I don't know. But good enough I remembered the
    plot pretty well after at least 50 years. So, maybe great?

    I reviewed that for SFBC years and years ago.

    I will post it here tomorrow, if tomorrow is less Monday-like.
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  • From Tony Nance@tnusenet17@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Jun 22 17:57:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 6/22/26 5:38 PM, WolfFan wrote:
    On Jun 22, 2026, BCFD 36 wrote
    (in article <111c45a$2hhj0$12@dont-email.me>):

    In another thread, the subject of Keith Laumer's Bolo stories was
    brought up. So I started looking them up to see if the title that
    reminded me of something was what I was remembering. Close, but not
    quite. I digress.

    In the process of looking up the short stories, I came across some books
    in PDF, a couple of anthologies and maybe a novel: A Plague of Demons
    (the novel that I originally spelled Daemons due to my Comp Sci
    background intruding), The World Turned Upside Down (anthology with The
    Last Command and also A Gun for Dinosaur, Who Goes There?, St. Dragon
    and the George, The Cold Equations, A Pail of Air among a bunch of
    others whose titles I did not recognize), and The Big Show (all Laumer
    stories).

    I've started working my way through The World Turned Upside Down. So
    far, they are OK to good, but nothing great yet. The Last Command was
    close to great, but... I don't know. But good enough I remembered the
    plot pretty well after at least 50 years. So, maybe great?

    St Dragon and the George is a Gordon R Dickson story. A Pail of Air is a Fitz Lieber story. A Gun For Dinosaur is a L Sprague de Camp story. Who Goes There is probably a John Campbell story, and would be the basis for the The Thing movies. And The Cold Equations is a Tom Godwin story. ThererCOre all classics.



    It's an excellent anthology:
    https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?67748

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  • From jdnicoll@jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Jun 23 01:55:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <111cadi$5hg$2@reader1.panix.com>,
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    In article <111c45a$2hhj0$12@dont-email.me>,
    BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> wrote:
    In another thread, the subject of Keith Laumer's Bolo stories was
    brought up. So I started looking them up to see if the title that
    reminded me of something was what I was remembering. Close, but not
    quite. I digress.

    In the process of looking up the short stories, I came across some books >>in PDF, a couple of anthologies and maybe a novel: A Plague of Demons
    (the novel that I originally spelled Daemons due to my Comp Sci
    background intruding), The World Turned Upside Down (anthology with The >>Last Command and also A Gun for Dinosaur, Who Goes There?, St. Dragon
    and the George, The Cold Equations, A Pail of Air among a bunch of
    others whose titles I did not recognize), and The Big Show (all Laumer >>stories).

    I've started working my way through The World Turned Upside Down. So
    far, they are OK to good, but nothing great yet. The Last Command was >>close to great, but... I don't know. But good enough I remembered the
    plot pretty well after at least 50 years. So, maybe great?

    I reviewed that for SFBC years and years ago.

    I will post it here tomorrow, if tomorrow is less Monday-like.


    Here is it, properly formatted. Because it was written to
    help determine if the SFBC wanted to buy this, it is full of
    spoilers. No, fuller than that.

    On the whole I liked it. However, it was used as a sort of memorial for
    Baen. I think a better approach would have been to do what Harrison
    did for Campbell and commission one last story in series first published
    by Baen.


    Most of these stories are pretty good, with the inevitable duds outnumbered
    by the gems. All are dated in some way or another but generally not in ways that interfere with the pleasures of reading them (Aside from some notable sexism here and there). My only worry is that a lot of these have been anthologized many times and potential customers may already own anthologies with these particular stories in them.

    [Note: the stories have individual prefaces and in some cases afterwords. Generally, Eric Flint writes them but on occasion Jim Baen does as well]

    Preface: An explanation of how this book came to be and what its purpose is.

    Arthur C. Clarke, Rescue Party: Well-meaning aliens journey to a doomed
    Earth to rescue a few humans, only to discover after some exploration that
    all of the humans are gone, off on an ambitious (although low tech)
    attempt to reach the stars in generation ships.

    [A classic in the old Astounding style]

    Robert A. Heinlein, The Menace From Earth: A lunar teen deals with some unwanted romantic competition in the form of a young, sophisticated
    woman from cosmopolitan Earth. [Something less than a classic. RAH
    shouldn't have tried his hand at teen girls, I think]

    [Added in 2026: my Young People liked this]

    Rick Raphael, Code Three: Law and order on the super-duper highways
    of the future involves very large, very fast police cruisers and a
    large body count thanks to Mr. Newton. [Light weight, very much of
    a specific time in terms of how it handles race and sex but not
    entirely without a certain overcharged charm]

    Robert Sheckley, Hunting Problem: Three humans on a world that is
    (unknown to them) occupied by ethereal aliens are the subjects of a
    hunt. Only the alien hunters' lack of anatomical knowledge spares
    the humans' lives. [A minor but amusing Sheckley]

    A.E. Van Vogt, Black Destroyer: A human exploration ship is faced with
    a superhuman predator from a decayed civilization. They defeat it using
    its cultural blinders. [Another old standard. It is not clear to me why
    the humans decide to commit genocide at the end of the story but it was
    a different time]

    Fritz Leiber, A Pail of Air: Earth has been cast into interstellar space
    and a family of survivors struggles to survive in the aftermath. Their persistence is rewarded with the discovery that there are other, better-equipped, survivors. [Short but quite good]

    Robert Ernest Gilbert, Thy Rocks and Rills: A fellow sells a mutant bull
    for bullfighting and fights a duel himself. He uses trickery and cunning
    to prevail, as does the bull. In the end the game is fixed and neither
    can win. [This was ok. Not really my thing and too much exposition about things the characters should have already known]

    L. Sprague de Camp, A Gun For Dinosaur: A hunting guide advises a would-be dinosaur hunter with a tale of a hunt that went terribly wrong. [Another
    old classic]

    James H. Schmitz, Goblin Night: Telzey finds herself in a retelling of
    The Most Dangerous Game, stalked by a carnivore controlled with the mechanically amplified psionics of a bitter crippled genius. [In
    general, I don't like the Telzey stuff but this was not too bad]

    C.M. Kornbluth, The Only Thing We Learn: Earth falls to the star-barbarians but in time the civilized offspring of the barbarians will themselves be victims of a similar process. [Oddly, I had not read this one. Standard
    moody Kornbluth]

    Wyman Guin, Trigger Tide: An off-worlder persists in his mission to
    end a war by killing the local Leader, hampered by unique local
    conditions. [This didn't really work for me]

    Murray Leinster, The Aliens: What is initially hostile contact between
    humans and mysterious aliens turns into a cooperative struggle to
    survive. [I'd have picked First Contact but as Flint points out it
    has been collected many many times. On the other hand, a lot of the
    other stories in here have also been anthologized multiple times]

    Michael Shaara, All The Way Back: The first human interstellar explorers
    meet a representative of a galactic federation. He explains some local mysteries to the humans, including the revelation that humans are the
    remnants of a once great race whose terrible actions required their extermination, an order that is, rather sadly for the humans, still
    in effect. [This is, I suppose, the flip side of the situation in
    Rescue Party]

    Keith Laumer, The Last Command: Road engineers accidentally activate a long-abandoned Bolo, a supersized tank. When the radioactive Bolo goes
    on a rampage under the impression the old war is still on, an elderly
    veteran gives his life to guide the machine away from the city. [This
    is one of a small handful of good Bolo stories]

    John W. Campbell, Who Goes There? Explorers contend with a hellishly
    adaptable alien, barely defeating it with the help of the local
    climate. [I amm inclined to say this was JWC's best]

    Ross Rocklynne, Quietus: Birdlike aliens investigating a nearly dead
    Earth stumble across a man and his pet bird but just as the man is on
    the verge of finding the last woman, one of the aliens kills him to
    prevent him from hurting the bird. [It's better than his puzzle stories,
    in any case]

    Fredric Brown, The Answer: By building a computer able to answer the
    question of whether or not there is a good, researchers create the God
    they are looking for. [A classic short-short]

    Isaac Asimov, The Last Question: Superficially similar to the Brown,
    this details various stages in computer evolution; each step being
    confronted with the desire by humans to have the laws of thermodynamics reversed. In the end, the computer is able to reset the universe,
    chosing the first words of Genesis when it does so. [Another classic]

    C.L. Moore, Shambleau: Northwest Smith rescues what seems to be a
    beautiful young alien woman, only to be enslaved by her vampiric psi
    powers. He seems doomed to be consumed by the monster but a friend shows
    up just in time to save him. [Northwest, you genre-blind man-whore]

    Tom Godwin, The Cold Equations: Stupid girl stows away on a courier
    ship. Because the ship lacks the reaction mass to reach the target world
    with her aboard, she is ejected into space. [I am sure it is possible to
    write a story that accomplishes what this one is trying to do (and I just thought of an example: To Build a Fire) but this particular story is
    riddled with contrived plotting to force the story in the direction the
    author wants.]

    [For some reason, the order of Shambleau and The Cold Equations is
    reversed from the order it appears in the ToC]

    Poul Anderson, Turning Point: Humans are confronted with the problem of
    what to do about a recently contacted alien race, one that is backwards technologically but far smarter than humans. In the end, they decide to assimilate the aliens into human society. [One of many stories in this
    that prompted "Oh, yes. *That* story," with the very first sentence.
    Unlike a lot of the others, this hasn't been collected all that often.
    I don't think it has been anthologized since the 1970s, at least not in
    a form I encountered]

    Lee Gregor, Heavy Planet: A native of a high gravity world encounters
    a crashed space ship build by now-crushed low gravity worlders.
    [Competent and oft collected]

    H. Beam Piper, Omnilingual: Archaeologists on dead Mars discover the
    Rosetta stone needed to decipher the Martian language in the form of scientific texts. [Yet another old classic, and yet another story that
    has been collected multiple times]

    Christopher Anvil, The Gentle Earth: Aliens worried that Earth might
    some day be a threat invade. Although hampered by their astounding
    ignorance of phenomena like snow, bad weather and volcanoes, they
    slowly drive back the forces of Earth, only to sign what will clear
    be a disastrous armistice with the humans. [Boy, was this a stupid
    story. Standard Anvil Poor Dumb Aliens stuff]

    Chester S. Geier, Environment: Explorers looking for a lost colony
    find mysterious alien cities whose contents transform the humans into something far more ethereal than humans. [Eh]

    Jack Vance, Liane the Wayfarer: Liane agrees to accomplish one small
    task to win a woman he lusts after, but fails rather horribly.
    [Amusing]

    P. Schuyler Miller, Spawn: Seeds from space transform various objects
    (gold, a dead man) into horrible Things that fight for supremacy over
    the Earth. In the end the spores' own limitations bring them down.
    [I thought this was a real stinker]

    Gordon R. Dickson, St. Dragon and the George: An American, transported
    to a fantasy world and trapped in the body of a dragon, fights evil in
    order to earn a trip home for himself and his sweetie. [Amusing, cousin
    to the de Camp and Pratt Enchanter stories, I think]

    Theodore Sturgeon, Thunder and Roses: Atomic war has killed the Western Hemisphere and left the Eastern one badly damaged. American soldiers
    are given a chance to take their enemies with them into extinction but
    one among them decides to give the future a chance, and destroys the
    mechanism of retaliation. [Another old classic and a strong note to end on]
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Jun 23 07:34:10 2026
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    On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 01:55:54 -0000 (UTC), James Nicoll wrote:

    Robert Sheckley, Hunting Problem: Three humans on a world that is
    (unknown to them) occupied by ethereal aliens are the subjects of a
    hunt. Only the alien hunters' lack of anatomical knowledge spares
    the humans' lives. [A minor but amusing Sheckley]

    Is there such a thing as an *un*amusing Sheckley? ;)

    The first time I recall hearing of him: rCLZirn Left Unguarded, Jenghik
    Palace In Flames, Jon Westerley DeadrCY.

    Fritz Leiber, A Pail of Air: Earth has been cast into interstellar
    space and a family of survivors struggles to survive in the
    aftermath. Their persistence is rewarded with the discovery that
    there are other, better-equipped, survivors. [Short but quite good]

    Fritz Leiber tends/tended to be one of the more consistently good
    writers. Recently been reading one of his rCLBig TimerCY tales, about a
    war through time between two factions each continually rewriting
    history to suit their own purposes.

    John W. Campbell, Who Goes There? Explorers contend with a hellishly adaptable alien, barely defeating it with the help of the local
    climate. [I amm inclined to say this was JWC's best]

    The inspiration for rCLThe ThingrCY.

    I read that in a collection of JWC stories which took its title from
    rCLWho Goes There?rCY. Had a couple of other tales, rCLTwilightrCY (about the far, far future) and rCLNightrCY (about the really, *really* far, far
    future) that had quite an impact on adolescent me, back then.

    C.L. Moore, Shambleau: Northwest Smith rescues what seems to be a
    beautiful young alien woman, only to be enslaved by her vampiric psi
    powers. He seems doomed to be consumed by the monster but a friend shows
    up just in time to save him. [Northwest, you genre-blind man-whore]

    The one C.L. Moore story that sticks in my mind to this day: rCLNo Woman BornrCY.
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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Jun 23 09:09:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 07:34:10 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 01:55:54 -0000 (UTC), James Nicoll wrote:
    <snippo>
    John W. Campbell, Who Goes There? Explorers contend with a hellishly
    adaptable alien, barely defeating it with the help of the local
    climate. [I amm inclined to say this was JWC's best]

    The inspiration for oThe Thingo.
    And, as /The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms/ was, an example of Hollywood's
    early "nobody reads SF so we can steal whatever we want to"
    philosophy.
    /The Thing/, IIRC, produced a lawsuit. /The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms/
    got Bradbury into Hollywood, thanks to his buddy Harryhausen. It also
    got the filmmaker's to buy the movie rights to his story.
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  • From BCFD 36@bcfd36@cruzio.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Jun 23 11:25:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 6/22/26 14:38, WolfFan wrote:
    On Jun 22, 2026, BCFD 36 wrote
    (in article <111c45a$2hhj0$12@dont-email.me>):

    [brilliant words deleted]

    St Dragon and the George is a Gordon R Dickson story. A Pail of Air is a Fitz Lieber story. A Gun For Dinosaur is a L Sprague de Camp story. Who Goes There is probably a John Campbell story, and would be the basis for the The Thing movies. And The Cold Equations is a Tom Godwin story. ThererCOre all classics.


    Yes, I mentioned the ones I knew.
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  • From BCFD 36@bcfd36@cruzio.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Jun 23 11:29:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 6/22/26 18:55, James Nicoll wrote:
    In article <111cadi$5hg$2@reader1.panix.com>,
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    In article <111c45a$2hhj0$12@dont-email.me>,
    BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> wrote:
    In another thread, the subject of Keith Laumer's Bolo stories was
    brought up. So I started looking them up to see if the title that
    reminded me of something was what I was remembering. Close, but not
    quite. I digress.

    In the process of looking up the short stories, I came across some books >>> in PDF, a couple of anthologies and maybe a novel: A Plague of Demons
    (the novel that I originally spelled Daemons due to my Comp Sci
    background intruding), The World Turned Upside Down (anthology with The
    Last Command and also A Gun for Dinosaur, Who Goes There?, St. Dragon
    and the George, The Cold Equations, A Pail of Air among a bunch of
    others whose titles I did not recognize), and The Big Show (all Laumer
    stories).

    I've started working my way through The World Turned Upside Down. So
    far, they are OK to good, but nothing great yet. The Last Command was
    close to great, but... I don't know. But good enough I remembered the
    plot pretty well after at least 50 years. So, maybe great?

    I reviewed that for SFBC years and years ago.

    I will post it here tomorrow, if tomorrow is less Monday-like.


    Here is it, properly formatted. Because it was written to
    help determine if the SFBC wanted to buy this, it is full of
    spoilers. No, fuller than that.

    On the whole I liked it. However, it was used as a sort of memorial for
    Baen. I think a better approach would have been to do what Harrison
    did for Campbell and commission one last story in series first published
    by Baen.


    Most of these stories are pretty good, with the inevitable duds outnumbered by the gems. All are dated in some way or another but generally not in ways that interfere with the pleasures of reading them (Aside from some notable sexism here and there). My only worry is that a lot of these have been anthologized many times and potential customers may already own anthologies with these particular stories in them.

    [Note: the stories have individual prefaces and in some cases afterwords. Generally, Eric Flint writes them but on occasion Jim Baen does as well]

    Preface: An explanation of how this book came to be and what its purpose is.

    Arthur C. Clarke, Rescue Party: Well-meaning aliens journey to a doomed
    Earth to rescue a few humans, only to discover after some exploration that all of the humans are gone, off on an ambitious (although low tech)
    attempt to reach the stars in generation ships.

    [A classic in the old Astounding style]

    Robert A. Heinlein, The Menace From Earth: A lunar teen deals with some unwanted romantic competition in the form of a young, sophisticated
    woman from cosmopolitan Earth. [Something less than a classic. RAH
    shouldn't have tried his hand at teen girls, I think]

    [Added in 2026: my Young People liked this]

    Rick Raphael, Code Three: Law and order on the super-duper highways
    of the future involves very large, very fast police cruisers and a
    large body count thanks to Mr. Newton. [Light weight, very much of
    a specific time in terms of how it handles race and sex but not
    entirely without a certain overcharged charm]

    Robert Sheckley, Hunting Problem: Three humans on a world that is
    (unknown to them) occupied by ethereal aliens are the subjects of a
    hunt. Only the alien hunters' lack of anatomical knowledge spares
    the humans' lives. [A minor but amusing Sheckley]

    A.E. Van Vogt, Black Destroyer: A human exploration ship is faced with
    a superhuman predator from a decayed civilization. They defeat it using
    its cultural blinders. [Another old standard. It is not clear to me why
    the humans decide to commit genocide at the end of the story but it was
    a different time]

    Fritz Leiber, A Pail of Air: Earth has been cast into interstellar space
    and a family of survivors struggles to survive in the aftermath. Their persistence is rewarded with the discovery that there are other, better-equipped, survivors. [Short but quite good]

    Robert Ernest Gilbert, Thy Rocks and Rills: A fellow sells a mutant bull
    for bullfighting and fights a duel himself. He uses trickery and cunning
    to prevail, as does the bull. In the end the game is fixed and neither
    can win. [This was ok. Not really my thing and too much exposition about things the characters should have already known]

    L. Sprague de Camp, A Gun For Dinosaur: A hunting guide advises a would-be
    dinosaur hunter with a tale of a hunt that went terribly wrong. [Another
    old classic]

    James H. Schmitz, Goblin Night: Telzey finds herself in a retelling of
    The Most Dangerous Game, stalked by a carnivore controlled with the mechanically amplified psionics of a bitter crippled genius. [In
    general, I don't like the Telzey stuff but this was not too bad]

    C.M. Kornbluth, The Only Thing We Learn: Earth falls to the star-barbarians but in time the civilized offspring of the barbarians will themselves be victims of a similar process. [Oddly, I had not read this one. Standard
    moody Kornbluth]

    Wyman Guin, Trigger Tide: An off-worlder persists in his mission to
    end a war by killing the local Leader, hampered by unique local
    conditions. [This didn't really work for me]

    Murray Leinster, The Aliens: What is initially hostile contact between
    humans and mysterious aliens turns into a cooperative struggle to
    survive. [I'd have picked First Contact but as Flint points out it
    has been collected many many times. On the other hand, a lot of the
    other stories in here have also been anthologized multiple times]

    Michael Shaara, All The Way Back: The first human interstellar explorers
    meet a representative of a galactic federation. He explains some local mysteries to the humans, including the revelation that humans are the remnants of a once great race whose terrible actions required their extermination, an order that is, rather sadly for the humans, still
    in effect. [This is, I suppose, the flip side of the situation in
    Rescue Party]

    Keith Laumer, The Last Command: Road engineers accidentally activate a long-abandoned Bolo, a supersized tank. When the radioactive Bolo goes
    on a rampage under the impression the old war is still on, an elderly
    veteran gives his life to guide the machine away from the city. [This
    is one of a small handful of good Bolo stories]

    John W. Campbell, Who Goes There? Explorers contend with a hellishly adaptable alien, barely defeating it with the help of the local
    climate. [I amm inclined to say this was JWC's best]

    Ross Rocklynne, Quietus: Birdlike aliens investigating a nearly dead
    Earth stumble across a man and his pet bird but just as the man is on
    the verge of finding the last woman, one of the aliens kills him to
    prevent him from hurting the bird. [It's better than his puzzle stories,
    in any case]

    Fredric Brown, The Answer: By building a computer able to answer the
    question of whether or not there is a good, researchers create the God
    they are looking for. [A classic short-short]

    Isaac Asimov, The Last Question: Superficially similar to the Brown,
    this details various stages in computer evolution; each step being
    confronted with the desire by humans to have the laws of thermodynamics reversed. In the end, the computer is able to reset the universe,
    chosing the first words of Genesis when it does so. [Another classic]

    C.L. Moore, Shambleau: Northwest Smith rescues what seems to be a
    beautiful young alien woman, only to be enslaved by her vampiric psi
    powers. He seems doomed to be consumed by the monster but a friend shows
    up just in time to save him. [Northwest, you genre-blind man-whore]

    Tom Godwin, The Cold Equations: Stupid girl stows away on a courier
    ship. Because the ship lacks the reaction mass to reach the target world
    with her aboard, she is ejected into space. [I am sure it is possible to write a story that accomplishes what this one is trying to do (and I just thought of an example: To Build a Fire) but this particular story is
    riddled with contrived plotting to force the story in the direction the author wants.]

    [For some reason, the order of Shambleau and The Cold Equations is
    reversed from the order it appears in the ToC]

    Poul Anderson, Turning Point: Humans are confronted with the problem of
    what to do about a recently contacted alien race, one that is backwards technologically but far smarter than humans. In the end, they decide to assimilate the aliens into human society. [One of many stories in this
    that prompted "Oh, yes. *That* story," with the very first sentence.
    Unlike a lot of the others, this hasn't been collected all that often.
    I don't think it has been anthologized since the 1970s, at least not in
    a form I encountered]

    Lee Gregor, Heavy Planet: A native of a high gravity world encounters
    a crashed space ship build by now-crushed low gravity worlders.
    [Competent and oft collected]

    H. Beam Piper, Omnilingual: Archaeologists on dead Mars discover the
    Rosetta stone needed to decipher the Martian language in the form of scientific texts. [Yet another old classic, and yet another story that
    has been collected multiple times]

    Christopher Anvil, The Gentle Earth: Aliens worried that Earth might
    some day be a threat invade. Although hampered by their astounding
    ignorance of phenomena like snow, bad weather and volcanoes, they
    slowly drive back the forces of Earth, only to sign what will clear
    be a disastrous armistice with the humans. [Boy, was this a stupid
    story. Standard Anvil Poor Dumb Aliens stuff]

    Chester S. Geier, Environment: Explorers looking for a lost colony
    find mysterious alien cities whose contents transform the humans into something far more ethereal than humans. [Eh]

    Jack Vance, Liane the Wayfarer: Liane agrees to accomplish one small
    task to win a woman he lusts after, but fails rather horribly.
    [Amusing]

    P. Schuyler Miller, Spawn: Seeds from space transform various objects
    (gold, a dead man) into horrible Things that fight for supremacy over
    the Earth. In the end the spores' own limitations bring them down.
    [I thought this was a real stinker]

    Gordon R. Dickson, St. Dragon and the George: An American, transported
    to a fantasy world and trapped in the body of a dragon, fights evil in
    order to earn a trip home for himself and his sweetie. [Amusing, cousin
    to the de Camp and Pratt Enchanter stories, I think]

    Theodore Sturgeon, Thunder and Roses: Atomic war has killed the Western Hemisphere and left the Eastern one badly damaged. American soldiers
    are given a chance to take their enemies with them into extinction but
    one among them decides to give the future a chance, and destroys the mechanism of retaliation. [Another old classic and a strong note to end on]


    Thanks to your descriptions, I recognized a couple of others. And I
    agree that RH shouldn't try teen girls.
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    Dave Scruggs
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    Captain - Boulder Creek Fire (Retired)
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  • From Christian Weisgerber@naddy@mips.inka.de to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Jun 23 19:46:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 2026-06-23, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    John W. Campbell, Who Goes There? Explorers contend with a hellishly
    adaptable alien, barely defeating it with the help of the local
    climate. [I amm inclined to say this was JWC's best]

    The inspiration for -oThe Thing-o.

    And, as /The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms/ was, an example of Hollywood's
    early "nobody reads SF so we can steal whatever we want to"
    philosophy.

    I just checked, and both the poor 1951 movie and the superlative 1982 adaptation are

    Based on the Story
    "Who Goes There?"
    by
    John W. Campbell, Jr.

    IT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE SCREEN.

    Yes, I'm aware many people like the 1951 movie with the man-eating
    carrot.

    By the time I read Campbell's novella, I'd seen both movies, read
    Alan Dean Foster's novelization and a comic adaptation, and I was
    still shocked how good the original story was. An all-time great.
    --
    Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de
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  • From ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan@tednolan to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Jun 23 21:09:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <slrn113lok8.esh.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
    Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
    On 2026-06-23, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    John W. Campbell, Who Goes There? Explorers contend with a hellishly
    adaptable alien, barely defeating it with the help of the local
    climate. [I amm inclined to say this was JWC's best]

    The inspiration for -oThe Thing-o.

    And, as /The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms/ was, an example of Hollywood's
    early "nobody reads SF so we can steal whatever we want to"
    philosophy.

    I just checked, and both the poor 1951 movie and the superlative 1982 >adaptation are

    Based on the Story
    "Who Goes There?"
    by
    John W. Campbell, Jr.

    IT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE SCREEN.

    Yes, I'm aware many people like the 1951 movie with the man-eating
    carrot.

    By the time I read Campbell's novella, I'd seen both movies, read
    Alan Dean Foster's novelization and a comic adaptation, and I was
    still shocked how good the original story was. An all-time great.


    Has anyone read the expanded edition published a few years ago
    from Campbell's orignal draft?
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    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..
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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Jun 24 08:58:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 19:46:16 -0000 (UTC), Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
    On 2026-06-23, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    John W. Campbell, Who Goes There? Explorers contend with a hellishly
    adaptable alien, barely defeating it with the help of the local
    climate. [I amm inclined to say this was JWC's best]

    The inspiration for ?The Thing?.

    And, as /The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms/ was, an example of Hollywood's
    early "nobody reads SF so we can steal whatever we want to"
    philosophy.

    I just checked, and both the poor 1951 movie and the superlative 1982 >adaptation are

    Based on the Story
    "Who Goes There?"
    by
    John W. Campbell, Jr.

    IT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE SCREEN.
    Well, of course it is.
    The filmmakers for the excellent (and far superior to the later
    abomination) 1951 movie got /sued/. They were /required/ to add it as
    a result.
    At least, that has always been my understanding.
    /The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms/ also credits the Bradbury story --
    they bought the rights once Bradbury noticed that the script he was
    hired to help out with was based on /his own story/. IIRC, the trailer
    refers to it as well. Apparently, the story was /very/ well received.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From quadibloc@quadibloc@invalid.com (John Savard) to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Jun 28 08:51:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 01:55:54 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
    Nicoll) wrote:

    Murray Leinster, The Aliens: What is initially hostile contact between >humans and mysterious aliens turns into a cooperative struggle to
    survive. [I'd have picked First Contact but as Flint points out it
    has been collected many many times. On the other hand, a lot of the
    other stories in here have also been anthologized multiple times]

    My favorite comic book, Magnus Robot Fighter 4,000 A.D., had a backup
    feature titled "The Aliens". Its initial premise was that of Murray
    Leinster's story "First Contact", so this paragraph interested me.

    John Savard
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