• Angel Station. Walter Jon Williams.

    From Titus G@noone@nowhere.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Fri Jun 19 17:27:22 2026
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    Angel Station. Walter Jon Williams. A standalone novel.
    Apart from rereads, Micheal Flynn, and George Elliot, this has been my
    most enjoyable read this year. Four stars. I loved the bleak background
    of independent traders (in spaceships) fighting for survival for their livelihood as well as their identity from the economic threats of large "corporations" intruding into their area of space as well as the
    deceptions, betrayals, the bespoke alien construction, the pragmatic desperation ......... Just brilliant space opera dependent on pseudo
    science for plot as well as background. Just as good as Metropolitan and
    the Dread Empire Fall series.
    Until reading James Nicoll's review: https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/wont-break-me
    I had forgotten the age of the incestuous siblings whilst reading but do
    not consider either to be objectionable or relevant given that they were genetically engineered and I do not recall any mention of a mother.
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  • From Don@g@crcomp.net to rec.arts.sf.written on Fri Jun 19 13:42:59 2026
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    Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
    Angel Station. Walter Jon Williams. A standalone novel.
    Apart from rereads, Micheal Flynn, and George Elliot, this has been my
    most enjoyable read this year. Four stars. I loved the bleak background
    of independent traders (in spaceships) fighting for survival for their livelihood as well as their identity from the economic threats of large "corporations" intruding into their area of space as well as the
    deceptions, betrayals, the bespoke alien construction, the pragmatic desperation ......... Just brilliant space opera dependent on pseudo
    science for plot as well as background. Just as good as Metropolitan and
    the Dread Empire Fall series.
    Until reading James Nicoll's review: https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/wont-break-me
    I had forgotten the age of the incestuous siblings whilst reading but do
    not consider either to be objectionable or relevant given that they were genetically engineered and I do not recall any mention of a mother.

    From a Freudian perspective, Pasco is an analog of Moses, the law
    giver. Jewish Kabbalistic and Talmudic mysticism opposes the Torah's
    Mosiac tradition.
    Mysticism's anti-Mosiac attitude creates guilt. So this story
    conveys a technically magical mystical means to cope. Although Ubu and
    Maria are technically siblings, everybody can clearly see how it doesn't count.

    --
    Don.......My cat's )\._.,--....,'``. veritas _|_ telltale tall tail /, _.. \ _\ (`._ ,. liberabit |
    tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' vos |


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  • From WolfFan@akwolffan@zoho.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Fri Jun 19 11:34:59 2026
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    On Jun 19, 2026, Titus G wrote
    (in article <1112k1a$33p5r$1@dont-email.me>):

    Angel Station. Walter Jon Williams. A standalone novel.
    Apart from rereads, Micheal Flynn, and George Elliot, this has been my
    most enjoyable read this year. Four stars. I loved the bleak background
    of independent traders (in spaceships) fighting for survival for their livelihood as well as their identity from the economic threats of large "corporations" intruding into their area of space as well as the
    deceptions, betrayals, the bespoke alien construction, the pragmatic desperation ......... Just brilliant space opera dependent on pseudo
    science for plot as well as background. Just as good as Metropolitan and
    the Dread Empire Fall series.
    Until reading James Nicoll's review: https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/wont-break-me
    I had forgotten the age of the incestuous siblings whilst reading but do
    not consider either to be objectionable or relevant given that they were genetically engineered and I do not recall any mention of a mother.

    Feh. Williams took CherrythrCOs Downbelow Station and filed the serial
    numbers off.

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  • From Titus G@noone@nowhere.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Jun 21 14:09:35 2026
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    On 20/06/2026 03:34, WolfFan wrote:
    On Jun 19, 2026, Titus G wrote
    (in article <1112k1a$33p5r$1@dont-email.me>):

    Angel Station. Walter Jon Williams. A standalone novel.
    Apart from rereads, Micheal Flynn, and George Elliot, this has been my
    most enjoyable read this year. Four stars.

    snip

    Feh. Williams took CherrythrCOs Downbelow Station and filed the serial numbers off.

    I bounced off the first of the Cyteen series many decades ago but will
    try this, thank you. I enjoy everything about Williams writing as well
    as the content.


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  • From Titus G@noone@nowhere.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Jun 21 14:12:37 2026
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    On 20/06/2026 01:42, Don wrote:
    Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
    Angel Station. Walter Jon Williams. A standalone novel.
    Apart from rereads, Micheal Flynn, and George Elliot, this has been my
    most enjoyable read this year. Four stars. I loved the bleak background
    of independent traders (in spaceships) fighting for survival for their
    livelihood as well as their identity from the economic threats of large
    "corporations" intruding into their area of space as well as the
    deceptions, betrayals, the bespoke alien construction, the pragmatic
    desperation ......... Just brilliant space opera dependent on pseudo
    science for plot as well as background. Just as good as Metropolitan and
    the Dread Empire Fall series.
    Until reading James Nicoll's review:
    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/wont-break-me
    I had forgotten the age of the incestuous siblings whilst reading but do
    not consider either to be objectionable or relevant given that they were
    genetically engineered and I do not recall any mention of a mother.

    From a Freudian perspective, Pasco is an analog of Moses, the law
    giver. Jewish Kabbalistic and Talmudic mysticism opposes the Torah's
    Mosiac tradition.

    I don't understand. Pasco was their creator whose leadership and
    teachings led to poverty. To avoid wage slavery on a frontier planet,
    "the law of" Pasco had to be ignored and eventually his randomly
    appearing holographic ghost was removed from the computer by Beautiful
    Maria.

    Mysticism's anti-Mosiac attitude creates guilt. So this story
    conveys a technically magical mystical means to cope. Although Ubu and
    Maria are technically siblings, everybody can clearly see how it doesn't count.
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  • From Don@g@crcomp.net to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Jun 21 05:34:05 2026
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    Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On 20/06/2026 01:42, Don wrote:
    Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
    Angel Station. Walter Jon Williams. A standalone novel.
    Apart from rereads, Micheal Flynn, and George Elliot, this has been my
    most enjoyable read this year. Four stars. I loved the bleak background
    of independent traders (in spaceships) fighting for survival for their
    livelihood as well as their identity from the economic threats of large
    "corporations" intruding into their area of space as well as the
    deceptions, betrayals, the bespoke alien construction, the pragmatic
    desperation ......... Just brilliant space opera dependent on pseudo
    science for plot as well as background. Just as good as Metropolitan and >>> the Dread Empire Fall series.
    Until reading James Nicoll's review:
    https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/wont-break-me
    I had forgotten the age of the incestuous siblings whilst reading but do >>> not consider either to be objectionable or relevant given that they were >>> genetically engineered and I do not recall any mention of a mother.

    From a Freudian perspective, Pasco is an analog of Moses, the law
    giver. Jewish Kabbalistic and Talmudic mysticism opposes the Torah's
    Mosiac tradition.

    I don't understand. Pasco was their creator whose leadership and
    teachings led to poverty. To avoid wage slavery on a frontier planet,
    "the law of" Pasco had to be ignored and eventually his randomly
    appearing holographic ghost was removed from the computer by Beautiful
    Maria.

    Ignoring Pasco's law leads to guilt. The holographic ghost symbolizes
    Maria's guilty conscience. Maria excises Pasco's ghost to assuage her
    guilt.
    Abrahamic archetypes permeate Abrahamic cultures and influence art.
    Even the art of Protestants who stopped going to church and slid into agnosticism or atheism by default.

    Postscript:

    The next stop on my autodidactic journey is THE HOLINESS OF SIN by
    Gershom Scholem. The title suits Scholem's worldview:

    Gershom Scholem (1892rCo1982) is considered one of the most
    important Jewish intellectuals of the twentieth century
    and an eminent representative of Jewish thought in times
    of crisis. His pioneering studies on the Kabbalah
    effectively founded an entirely new field of studies that
    flourishes until today. ...

    <https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/scholem/>

    Jefferson wrote the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE as an adaptation of
    Satan's speech in PARADISE LOST by Milton. Picture the DECLARATION as a prototypical Protestant bookend of the USA. Then imagine THE HOLINESS OF
    SIN as its companion bookend.
    What the hell?!?! Indeed, what the hell.

    --
    Don.......My cat's )\._.,--....,'``. veritas _|_ telltale tall tail /, _.. \ _\ (`._ ,. liberabit |
    tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' vos |


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