"The Mandibles: A Family, 2029-2047" by Lionel Shriver
https://www.amazon.com/MANDIBLES-FAMILY-2029-47_PB-171-POCHE/dp/000756077X/
A standalone, no prequel, no sequel, book about a financial apocalypse
in the USA starting in 2029.-a I read the well printed and well bound 400 page trade paperback published by Harper Perennial in 2017.-a BTW, this
book is labeled as dystopian fiction by Amazon and others.-a I doubt that there will be any future prequels or sequels for the book as the author
does not seem to go that way.
The book covers four generations of a family in the near future.-a The family consists of about twenty people of whom I mostly did not like due
to their overall craziness and attitudes about life.-a If there was
anyone who came close, it was Florence Mandible who even as a single
mother managed to buy a house in East Flatbush, NYC on a low income salary.-a But even she makes a lot of bad decisions that lead to a tough life.-a And I mostly liked Enola Mandible who was a successful author
living in Europe but evacuated back to the USA due to supposed discrimination in Paris.-a Plus I liked Jarred Mandible who managed to
get his patriarch grandfather to give him the money to buy a small farm
in upper state New York.
The conditions leading up to the beginning of the financial apocalypse
in the USA in 2029 had their roots in Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, basically the Great Society federal and state programs.-a And
in the continual wars and police actions started or participating in by
the USA from WWI onward.-a One might exempt WWII from that list as WWII
was supposedly actually good for the economics of the country but I have
not researched that accepted fact for truthfulness.
In 2029, the rest of the world changes from using the USA Dollar as the world reserve currency to the new Bancor, a basket of world currencies.
The USA Treasury Bills, of which there are $40 trillion outstanding, immediately double their interest rates in the next sale.-a The USA President and Congress pass legislation that holding Bancors is illegal
for any USA citizen.-a Under further financial pressure, the USA
repudiates the entire $40 trillion debt and starts seizing all the gold across the country from both citizens and businesses.-a Even gold wedding rings are seized as China has demanded that their tbills be redeemed immediately with non USA Dollars.
The patriarch of the Mandible family is a 97 year man with a fortune inherited from his grandparents who owned a steel mill. The patriarch
has his fortune invested in gold stocks, stocks of gold bullion in
central repositories, tbills, and the stock market.-a With the crash of
the stock market, seizure of gold, and repudiation of all tbills, he is wiped out and he and his Alzheimer afflicted second wife move in with
his son and his wife.-a And then the entire family ends up moving in with Florence in her tiny three bedroom house.-a But that quickly goes away
also as the remaining family members are soon homeless and living in a
park.
The author freely acknowledges that in choosing paths for the family and
the nation, she always chose the bad results path.-a She thinks that her book takes an optimistic view of the coming financial apocalypse which I find amazing.
One thing that just blew me away.-a By 2042, the government required all workers to have a chip embedded at the base of their skull that reported
all income and expenditures instantly.-a The chip reported all data to
the government computers using satellites which was immediately taxed
using government based checking accounts.-a No private banks allowed.
Starlink anyone ?
My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
Amazon rating: 4.2 out of 5 stars (4,704 ratings)
Lynn
On 6/17/2026 11:32 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
"The Mandibles: A Family, 2029-2047" by Lionel Shriver
https://www.amazon.com/MANDIBLES-FAMILY-2029-47_PB-171-POCHE/
dp/000756077X/
A standalone, no prequel, no sequel, book about a financial apocalypse
in the USA starting in 2029.-a I read the well printed and well bound
400 page trade paperback published by Harper Perennial in 2017.-a BTW,
this book is labeled as dystopian fiction by Amazon and others.-a I
doubt that there will be any future prequels or sequels for the book
as the author does not seem to go that way.
The book covers four generations of a family in the near future.-a The
family consists of about twenty people of whom I mostly did not like
due to their overall craziness and attitudes about life.-a If there was
anyone who came close, it was Florence Mandible who even as a single
mother managed to buy a house in East Flatbush, NYC on a low income
salary.-a But even she makes a lot of bad decisions that lead to a
tough life.-a And I mostly liked Enola Mandible who was a successful
author living in Europe but evacuated back to the USA due to supposed
discrimination in Paris.-a Plus I liked Jarred Mandible who managed to
get his patriarch grandfather to give him the money to buy a small
farm in upper state New York.
The conditions leading up to the beginning of the financial apocalypse
in the USA in 2029 had their roots in Social Security, Medicare, and
Medicaid, basically the Great Society federal and state programs.-a And
in the continual wars and police actions started or participating in
by the USA from WWI onward.-a One might exempt WWII from that list as
WWII was supposedly actually good for the economics of the country but
I have not researched that accepted fact for truthfulness.
In 2029, the rest of the world changes from using the USA Dollar as
the world reserve currency to the new Bancor, a basket of world
currencies. The USA Treasury Bills, of which there are $40 trillion
outstanding, immediately double their interest rates in the next
sale.-a The USA President and Congress pass legislation that holding
Bancors is illegal for any USA citizen.-a Under further financial
pressure, the USA repudiates the entire $40 trillion debt and starts
seizing all the gold across the country from both citizens and
businesses.-a Even gold wedding rings are seized as China has demanded
that their tbills be redeemed immediately with non USA Dollars.
The patriarch of the Mandible family is a 97 year man with a fortune
inherited from his grandparents who owned a steel mill. The patriarch
has his fortune invested in gold stocks, stocks of gold bullion in
central repositories, tbills, and the stock market.-a With the crash of
the stock market, seizure of gold, and repudiation of all tbills, he
is wiped out and he and his Alzheimer afflicted second wife move in
with his son and his wife.-a And then the entire family ends up moving
in with Florence in her tiny three bedroom house.-a But that quickly
goes away also as the remaining family members are soon homeless and
living in a park.
The author freely acknowledges that in choosing paths for the family
and the nation, she always chose the bad results path.-a She thinks
that her book takes an optimistic view of the coming financial
apocalypse which I find amazing.
One thing that just blew me away.-a By 2042, the government required
all workers to have a chip embedded at the base of their skull that
reported all income and expenditures instantly.-a The chip reported all
data to the government computers using satellites which was
immediately taxed using government based checking accounts.-a No
private banks allowed.
Starlink anyone ?
My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
Amazon rating: 4.2 out of 5 stars (4,704 ratings)
Lynn
I forgot to mention that this was a reread of a book that I bought from Amazon in 2021.
Lynn
On 6/17/2026 11:32 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:It seems /awfully/ familiar.
"The Mandibles: A Family, 2029-2047" by Lionel Shriver
https://www.amazon.com/MANDIBLES-FAMILY-2029-47_PB-171-POCHE/dp/000756077X/ >>
A standalone, no prequel, no sequel, book about a financial apocalypse
in the USA starting in 2029.a I read the well printed and well bound 400
page trade paperback published by Harper Perennial in 2017.a BTW, this
book is labeled as dystopian fiction by Amazon and others.a I doubt that
there will be any future prequels or sequels for the book as the author
does not seem to go that way.
The book covers four generations of a family in the near future.a The
family consists of about twenty people of whom I mostly did not like due
to their overall craziness and attitudes about life.a If there was
anyone who came close, it was Florence Mandible who even as a single
mother managed to buy a house in East Flatbush, NYC on a low income
salary.a But even she makes a lot of bad decisions that lead to a tough
life.a And I mostly liked Enola Mandible who was a successful author
living in Europe but evacuated back to the USA due to supposed
discrimination in Paris.a Plus I liked Jarred Mandible who managed to
get his patriarch grandfather to give him the money to buy a small farm
in upper state New York.
The conditions leading up to the beginning of the financial apocalypse
in the USA in 2029 had their roots in Social Security, Medicare, and
Medicaid, basically the Great Society federal and state programs.a And
in the continual wars and police actions started or participating in by
the USA from WWI onward.a One might exempt WWII from that list as WWII
was supposedly actually good for the economics of the country but I have
not researched that accepted fact for truthfulness.
In 2029, the rest of the world changes from using the USA Dollar as the
world reserve currency to the new Bancor, a basket of world currencies.
The USA Treasury Bills, of which there are $40 trillion outstanding,
immediately double their interest rates in the next sale.a The USA
President and Congress pass legislation that holding Bancors is illegal
for any USA citizen.a Under further financial pressure, the USA
repudiates the entire $40 trillion debt and starts seizing all the gold
across the country from both citizens and businesses.a Even gold wedding
rings are seized as China has demanded that their tbills be redeemed
immediately with non USA Dollars.
The patriarch of the Mandible family is a 97 year man with a fortune
inherited from his grandparents who owned a steel mill. The patriarch
has his fortune invested in gold stocks, stocks of gold bullion in
central repositories, tbills, and the stock market.a With the crash of
the stock market, seizure of gold, and repudiation of all tbills, he is
wiped out and he and his Alzheimer afflicted second wife move in with
his son and his wife.a And then the entire family ends up moving in with
Florence in her tiny three bedroom house.a But that quickly goes away
also as the remaining family members are soon homeless and living in a
park.
The author freely acknowledges that in choosing paths for the family and
the nation, she always chose the bad results path.a She thinks that her
book takes an optimistic view of the coming financial apocalypse which I
find amazing.
One thing that just blew me away.a By 2042, the government required all
workers to have a chip embedded at the base of their skull that reported
all income and expenditures instantly.a The chip reported all data to
the government computers using satellites which was immediately taxed
using government based checking accounts.a No private banks allowed.
Starlink anyone ?
My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
Amazon rating: 4.2 out of 5 stars (4,704 ratings)
Lynn
I forgot to mention that this was a reread of a book that I bought from >Amazon in 2021.
On 6/17/26 21:36, Lynn McGuire wrote:<snippo>
On 6/17/2026 11:32 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
Now, now, you're disturbing his fantasies.I forgot to mention that this was a reread of a book that I bought from
Amazon in 2021.
You also forgot to mention that the financial problems arise not from
the mentioned social programs but from the failure of the most well
off in terms of cash to pay their just share of taxes. They who profit
by the wars should help pay for the wars.
On Wed, 17 Jun 2026 23:36:40 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
I forgot to mention that this was a reread of a book that I bought from >>Amazon in 2021.
It seems /awfully/ familiar.
Are we sure it isn't a re-review as well?
In article <3n383lhvbeo4ubmqs7ulscm95o8ve00jb6@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2026 23:36:40 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
I forgot to mention that this was a reread of a book that I bought from
Amazon in 2021.
It seems /awfully/ familiar.
Are we sure it isn't a re-review as well?
_I_ reviewed it here in 2017, I think. Maybe you're remembering that?
http://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/im-riding-high-upon-a-deep-depression
(My site seems to be timing out just now. I will sent a note if it is not fixed by morning)
On Wed, 17 Jun 2026 23:36:40 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 6/17/2026 11:32 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
"The Mandibles: A Family, 2029-2047" by Lionel Shriver
https://www.amazon.com/MANDIBLES-FAMILY-2029-47_PB-171-POCHE/dp/000756077X/ >>>
A standalone, no prequel, no sequel, book about a financial apocalypse
in the USA starting in 2029.-a I read the well printed and well bound 400 >>> page trade paperback published by Harper Perennial in 2017.-a BTW, this
book is labeled as dystopian fiction by Amazon and others.-a I doubt that >>> there will be any future prequels or sequels for the book as the author
does not seem to go that way.
The book covers four generations of a family in the near future.-a The
family consists of about twenty people of whom I mostly did not like due >>> to their overall craziness and attitudes about life.-a If there was
anyone who came close, it was Florence Mandible who even as a single
mother managed to buy a house in East Flatbush, NYC on a low income
salary.-a But even she makes a lot of bad decisions that lead to a tough >>> life.-a And I mostly liked Enola Mandible who was a successful author
living in Europe but evacuated back to the USA due to supposed
discrimination in Paris.-a Plus I liked Jarred Mandible who managed to
get his patriarch grandfather to give him the money to buy a small farm
in upper state New York.
The conditions leading up to the beginning of the financial apocalypse
in the USA in 2029 had their roots in Social Security, Medicare, and
Medicaid, basically the Great Society federal and state programs.-a And
in the continual wars and police actions started or participating in by
the USA from WWI onward.-a One might exempt WWII from that list as WWII
was supposedly actually good for the economics of the country but I have >>> not researched that accepted fact for truthfulness.
In 2029, the rest of the world changes from using the USA Dollar as the
world reserve currency to the new Bancor, a basket of world currencies.
The USA Treasury Bills, of which there are $40 trillion outstanding,
immediately double their interest rates in the next sale.-a The USA
President and Congress pass legislation that holding Bancors is illegal
for any USA citizen.-a Under further financial pressure, the USA
repudiates the entire $40 trillion debt and starts seizing all the gold
across the country from both citizens and businesses.-a Even gold wedding >>> rings are seized as China has demanded that their tbills be redeemed
immediately with non USA Dollars.
The patriarch of the Mandible family is a 97 year man with a fortune
inherited from his grandparents who owned a steel mill. The patriarch
has his fortune invested in gold stocks, stocks of gold bullion in
central repositories, tbills, and the stock market.-a With the crash of
the stock market, seizure of gold, and repudiation of all tbills, he is
wiped out and he and his Alzheimer afflicted second wife move in with
his son and his wife.-a And then the entire family ends up moving in with >>> Florence in her tiny three bedroom house.-a But that quickly goes away
also as the remaining family members are soon homeless and living in a
park.
The author freely acknowledges that in choosing paths for the family and >>> the nation, she always chose the bad results path.-a She thinks that her >>> book takes an optimistic view of the coming financial apocalypse which I >>> find amazing.
One thing that just blew me away.-a By 2042, the government required all >>> workers to have a chip embedded at the base of their skull that reported >>> all income and expenditures instantly.-a The chip reported all data to
the government computers using satellites which was immediately taxed
using government based checking accounts.-a No private banks allowed.
Starlink anyone ?
My rating: 5 out of 5 stars
Amazon rating: 4.2 out of 5 stars (4,704 ratings)
Lynn
I forgot to mention that this was a reread of a book that I bought from
Amazon in 2021.
It seems /awfully/ familiar.
Are we sure it isn't a re-review as well?
In article <3n383lhvbeo4ubmqs7ulscm95o8ve00jb6@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2026 23:36:40 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
I forgot to mention that this was a reread of a book that I bought from
Amazon in 2021.
It seems /awfully/ familiar.
Are we sure it isn't a re-review as well?
_I_ reviewed it here in 2017, I think. Maybe you're remembering that?
http://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/im-riding-high-upon-a-deep-depression
(My site seems to be timing out just now. I will sent a note if it is not fixed by morning)
On 6/18/2026 7:20 PM, James Nicoll wrote:/Demolition Man/ takes place in a future where an Amendment was passed
In article <3n383lhvbeo4ubmqs7ulscm95o8ve00jb6@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2026 23:36:40 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
I forgot to mention that this was a reread of a book that I bought from >>>> Amazon in 2021.
It seems /awfully/ familiar.
Are we sure it isn't a re-review as well?
_I_ reviewed it here in 2017, I think. Maybe you're remembering that?
http://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/im-riding-high-upon-a-deep-depression
(My site seems to be timing out just now. I will sent a note if it is not
fixed by morning)
"USAs foreign-born Latino President ".... Someone really needs to get a >refresher on the US Constitution.
(Not aimed at you, James.)
On 6/18/2026 7:20 PM, James Nicoll wrote:
In article <3n383lhvbeo4ubmqs7ulscm95o8ve00jb6@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2026 23:36:40 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
I forgot to mention that this was a reread of a book that I bought from >>>> Amazon in 2021.
It seems /awfully/ familiar.
Are we sure it isn't a re-review as well?
_I_ reviewed it here in 2017, I think. Maybe you're remembering that?
http://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/im-riding-high-upon-a-deep-depression
(My site seems to be timing out just now. I will sent a note if it is not
fixed by morning)
"USrCOs foreign-born Latino President ".... Someone really needs to get a >refresher on the US Constitution.
(Not aimed at you, James.)
In article <1113l1v$3d5uf$1@dont-email.me>,
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 6/18/2026 7:20 PM, James Nicoll wrote:
In article <3n383lhvbeo4ubmqs7ulscm95o8ve00jb6@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2026 23:36:40 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
I forgot to mention that this was a reread of a book that I bought from >>>>> Amazon in 2021.
It seems /awfully/ familiar.
Are we sure it isn't a re-review as well?
_I_ reviewed it here in 2017, I think. Maybe you're remembering that?
http://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/im-riding-high-upon-a-deep-depression >>>
(My site seems to be timing out just now. I will sent a note if it is not >>> fixed by morning)
"USrCOs foreign-born Latino President ".... Someone really needs to get a >> refresher on the US Constitution.
(Not aimed at you, James.)
It's not impossible. In fact, there was a recent example of something similar: McCain (whose first name in Anglo would have been John) was
born the son of a paramount warlord in Panama. However, because of a
legal technicality, he didn't have to go through a formal naturalization process and could even run for President.
To be fair, to hear him, one would have thought his first language was
some American English dialect. Many voters may have sincerely thought
he was American.
On 6/18/2026 7:20 PM, James Nicoll wrote:
In article <3n383lhvbeo4ubmqs7ulscm95o8ve00jb6@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person-a <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2026 23:36:40 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
I forgot to mention that this was a reread of a book that I bought from >>>> Amazon in 2021.
It seems /awfully/ familiar.
Are we sure it isn't a re-review as well?
_I_ reviewed it here in 2017, I think. Maybe you're remembering that?
http://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/im-riding-high-upon-a-deep-depression
(My site seems to be timing out just now. I will sent a note if it is not
fixed by morning)
"USrCOs foreign-born Latino President "....-a Someone really needs to get a refresher on the US Constitution.
(Not aimed at you, James.)
Any child of a USA Citizen is a USA Citizen, no matter where they are
born. My wife was born in Japan of an USA Army Sergeant so she is a USA >Citizen, not Japanese. In fact, my wife is half Cherokee as her
grandfather is on the Dawes List of 1902.
On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 15:06:19 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
Any child of a USA Citizen is a USA Citizen, no matter where they are
born. My wife was born in Japan of an USA Army Sergeant so she is a USA
Citizen, not Japanese. In fact, my wife is half Cherokee as her
grandfather is on the Dawes List of 1902.
You sure about that?
Because I'm NOT an American citizen
definitely was and was born in WA state (whereas I was born in
Vancouver, BC
On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 15:06:19 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
Any child of a USA Citizen is a USA Citizen, no matter where they are
born. My wife was born in Japan of an USA Army Sergeant so she is a USA
Citizen, not Japanese. In fact, my wife is half Cherokee as her
grandfather is on the Dawes List of 1902.
You sure about that? Because I'm NOT an American citizen but my father definitely was and was born in WA state (whereas I was born in
Vancouver, BC - though it's about 98% certain I was conceived in San Francisco, CA)
On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 15:06:19 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
Any child of a USA Citizen is a USA Citizen, no matter where they are >>born. My wife was born in Japan of an USA Army Sergeant so she is a USA >>Citizen, not Japanese. In fact, my wife is half Cherokee as her >>grandfather is on the Dawes List of 1902.
You sure about that? Because I'm NOT an American citizen but my father >definitely was and was born in WA state (whereas I was born in
Vancouver, BC - though it's about 98% certain I was conceived in San >Francisco, CA)
On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 15:06:19 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
Any child of a USA Citizen is a USA Citizen, no matter where they are
born. My wife was born in Japan of an USA Army Sergeant so she is a USA
Citizen, not Japanese. In fact, my wife is half Cherokee as her
grandfather is on the Dawes List of 1902.
You sure about that? Because I'm NOT an American citizen but my father definitely was and was born in WA state (whereas I was born in
Vancouver, BC - though it's about 98% certain I was conceived in San Francisco, CA)
On 6/22/2026 3:26 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:I suspect he would have done better than the TACO.
On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 15:06:19 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
Any child of a USA Citizen is a USA Citizen, no matter where they are
born. My wife was born in Japan of an USA Army Sergeant so she is a USA >>> Citizen, not Japanese. In fact, my wife is half Cherokee as her
grandfather is on the Dawes List of 1902.
You sure about that? Because I'm NOT an American citizen but my father
definitely was and was born in WA state (whereas I was born in
Vancouver, BC - though it's about 98% certain I was conceived in San
Francisco, CA)
Can you prove that your father was an American citizen? Do you want to
pay USA income taxes?
It will be more difficult than you would believe. My wife was born in
the Army hospital at Camp Zama in Yokohama, Japan in 1958. My wife's >official and original USA Army birth certificate was destroyed when the
USA embassy in Tokyo burned down in 1973? All we had was a copy which
the State Department would not take for issuing my wife a USA Passport
in 1993?.
Neither of my wife's parents had birth certificates, my wife's father
was born at home in the Appalachians in 1932. My wife's mother was born
in a Cherokee compound in Arkansas back woods in 1934 (Cherokee Indians
who had escaped the reservation in Oklahoma).
Our congresscritter got my wife a USA Birth Certificate issued and
signed by the USA Secretary of State in 1996 ???. It took three years
to get and constant effort by my Congresscritter's Chief of Staff. My >Cherokee mother-in-law had to testify that she was an American Citizen
and my father-in-law had to supply his original USA Army DD-214.
BTW, our junior Texas Senator, Ted (Rafael Edward) Cruz, was born in
Canada. His father was a Cuban immigrant to Canada. His mother was
born in Delaware, USA. He ran for USA President in 2016 and was >Constitutionally ok to be President even though he was born in Canada.
He would have been the first Hispanic President of the USA had he won.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz
On 6/22/2026 3:26 AM, The Horny Goat wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jun 2026 15:06:19 -0500, Lynn McGuire
BTW, our junior Texas Senator,
Canada.-a His father was a Cuban immigrant to Canada.-a His mother was
born in Delaware, USA.
Constitutionally ok to be President even though he was born in Canada.
He would have been the first Hispanic President of the USA had he won.
-a-a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz
You sure about that? Because I'm NOT an American citizen but my father
definitely was and was born in WA state (whereas I was born in
Vancouver, BC - though it's about 98% certain I was conceived in San
Francisco, CA)
Go to your nearest USA Embassy and ask them.
Can you prove that your father was an American citizen? Do you want to
pay USA income taxes?
It will be more difficult than you would believe. My wife was born in
the Army hospital at Camp Zama in Yokohama, Japan in 1958. My wife's >official and original USA Army birth certificate was destroyed when the
USA embassy in Tokyo burned down in 1973? All we had was a copy which
the State Department would not take for issuing my wife a USA Passport
in 1993?.
Neither of my wife's parents had birth certificates, my wife's father--- Synchronet 3.22a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
was born at home in the Appalachians in 1932. My wife's mother was born
in a Cherokee compound in Arkansas back woods in 1934 (Cherokee Indians
who had escaped the reservation in Oklahoma).
ICE has considered deporting him. But as he self-deports from Texas
whenever there is trouble, they didn't bother.
On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 17:09:00 -0400, William Hyde
<wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
ICE has considered deporting him. But as he self-deports from Texas >>whenever there is trouble, they didn't bother.
ICE would deport a US senator?!?
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> writes:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 17:09:00 -0400, William Hyde
<wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
ICE has considered deporting him. But as he self-deports from Texas
whenever there is trouble, they didn't bother.
ICE would deport a US senator?!?
William is making a snarky, but accurate, comment about Cruz leaving
the US for Mexico during the 2020 covid shutdown.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/539467-cruz-takes-hits-at-home-for-leaving-during-crisis/
On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 15:46:25 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
You sure about that? Because I'm NOT an American citizen but my father
definitely was and was born in WA state (whereas I was born in
Vancouver, BC - though it's about 98% certain I was conceived in San
Francisco, CA)
Go to your nearest USA Embassy and ask them.
My main deterrent is the requirement to file tax returns in both
countries for the rest of my life - which probably means probate in
both places which would be a pain. I'm told be a friend in this
position that it's more paperwork than anything since Canada's tax
rate is higher (which isn't true of everybody since the US and
Canadian deductions are for a lot of the same thing but the list of deductions isn't identical)
The main reason I didn't go for it when I turned 18 was that the
Vietnam war draft was still in force and they had a 'draft lottery'
and I looked it up and found I had a really low number meaning I'd be
among the first to hear from Selective Service - and I remember when
my father got the letter from them saying he was now 5-E.
On 6/26/2026 2:51 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:My thought is that Customs should never have let him back in.
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> writes:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 17:09:00 -0400, William Hyde
<wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
ICE has considered deporting him. But as he self-deports from Texas
whenever there is trouble, they didn't bother.
ICE would deport a US senator?!?
William is making a snarky, but accurate, comment about Cruz leaving
the US for Mexico during the 2020 covid shutdown.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/539467-cruz-takes-hits-at-home-for-leaving-during-crisis/
IIRC, it wasn't covid, it was taking his family to Cancun when
other Texans were freezing to death when their go-it-alone power
grid didn't 'go' during a cold snap.
On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 17:09:00 -0400, William HydeIf he looks like a Mexican (or a Somali), why not? They deport
<wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:
ICE has considered deporting him. But as he self-deports from Texas >>whenever there is trouble, they didn't bother.
ICE would deport a US senator?!?
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