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Scott Lurndal wrote:

Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:

On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 18:35:39 -0400, Cryptoengineer
<petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

On 6/4/2026 11:41 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

<snippo>

And all of this while the number of hurricanes has decreased.

FFS Lynn, where do you pull this nonsense from?

He gets it from an anti-climate-change website run by
a former TV weather reporter from Chico, California.

We should keep in mind that the effect of global change on hurricanes is
not yet clear.

I say global change instead of warming because with tropical convection, another alteration we are making to the atmosphere is very important -
sulfate aerosols.

Greenhouse gases increase sea surface temperatures, providing more
energy for convection. And they barely increase upper atmosphere temperatures, so that the temperature difference between the surface and
the upper atmosphere increases, which increases the instability of the atmosphere, which favours convection.

Hence the direct effect of an increase in greenhouse gases is an
increase in the number and strength of tropical storms.

However, sulfate aerosols cool the surface of the ocean, and, because
they absorb sunlight, warm the upper atmosphere. Thus they make the atmosphere more stable, suppressing convection and tropical storms.

Aerosols have a smaller thermal signature overall than GHGs, but because
the changes they cause are in exactly the right places they are very
effective at suppressing convection. And we have added a lot of sulfate aerosols to the atmosphere.

Other aerosols may have a similar but weaker effect.

If the concentration of GHGs continues to grow, while the aerosol load
remains constant or declines, we'd expect more and stronger storms.
Perhaps we have reached this point. I really don't know.

People have speculated that in a warmer world upper level winds in the
tropics will be unfavourable for cyclone development. But as far as I
am aware no model supports this, nor does it seem to be happening.

So, if the number of tropical storms has actually decreased, this by no
means contradicts the theory of global warming, and if it has increased,
it does not support it - at least until the increase becomes
statistically significant. And as a colleague discovered, the record is spotty enough that getting statistical significance from it is difficult
- but that was twenty years ago and it might be easier now.


William Hyde
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On 6/6/2026 3:38 PM, William Hyde wrote:

Scott Lurndal wrote:

Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:

On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 18:35:39 -0400, Cryptoengineer
<petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

On 6/4/2026 11:41 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

<snippo>

And all of this while the number of hurricanes has decreased.

FFS Lynn, where do you pull this nonsense from?

He gets it from an anti-climate-change website run by
a former TV weather reporter from Chico, California.

We should keep in mind that the effect of global change on hurricanes is
not yet clear.

[Interesting, but non-germane material snipped]

Lynn claimed that the frequency of hurricanes was dropping.

I presented evidence that this was a false claim.

My claim didn't depend on whether climate change or AGW was
real - it was simply a provable fact that the frequency of
hurricanes has increased over the past at least 60 years.
People count them, after all, and with satellites we
aren't missing any.

He refused to correct himself, showing himself as a man
bereft of honor or integrity.

pt
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Cryptoengineer wrote:

On 6/6/2026 3:38 PM, William Hyde wrote:

Scott Lurndal wrote:

Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:

On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 18:35:39 -0400, Cryptoengineer
<petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

On 6/4/2026 11:41 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

<snippo>

And all of this while the number of hurricanes has decreased.

FFS Lynn, where do you pull this nonsense from?

He gets it from an anti-climate-change website run by
a former TV weather reporter from Chico, California.

We should keep in mind that the effect of global change on hurricanes
is not yet clear.

[Interesting, but non-germane material snipped]

Lynn claimed that the frequency of hurricanes was dropping.

I presented evidence that this was a false claim.

My claim didn't depend on whether climate change or AGW was
real - it was simply a provable fact that the frequency of
hurricanes has increased over the past at least 60 years.
People count them, after all, and with satellites we
aren't missing any.

He refused to correct himself, showing himself as a man
bereft of honor or integrity.

I agree with you entirely.

But I thought I'd take a break from Lynn's growing insanity to point out
that the issue is not that simple.


It's worth pointing out, also, that Atlantic Hurricanes form only a
fraction of the world's tropical storms. A larger data base, and hence
better statistics, could be gained by looking at all tropical storms.

For example, we should have a relatively quiet season in the Atlantic
this year thanks to El Nino, but that will be compensated by an increase
in the Pacific.

William Hyde

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On 6/7/26 14:27, William Hyde wrote:

Cryptoengineer wrote:

On 6/6/2026 3:38 PM, William Hyde wrote:

Scott Lurndal wrote:

Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:

On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 18:35:39 -0400, Cryptoengineer
<petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

On 6/4/2026 11:41 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

<snippo>

And all of this while the number of hurricanes has decreased.

FFS Lynn, where do you pull this nonsense from?

He gets it from an anti-climate-change website run by
a former TV weather reporter from Chico, California.

We should keep in mind that the effect of global change on hurricanes
is not yet clear.

[Interesting, but non-germane material snipped]

Lynn claimed that the frequency of hurricanes was dropping.

I presented evidence that this was a false claim.

My claim didn't depend on whether climate change or AGW was
real - it was simply a provable fact that the frequency of
hurricanes has increased over the past at least 60 years.
People count them, after all, and with satellites we
aren't missing any.

He refused to correct himself, showing himself as a man
bereft of honor or integrity.

I agree with you entirely.

But I thought I'd take a break from Lynn's growing insanity to point out that the issue is not that simple.

It's worth pointing out, also, that Atlantic Hurricanes form only a
fraction of the world's tropical storms.-a A larger data base, and hence better statistics, could be gained by looking at all tropical storms.

For example, we should have a relatively quiet season in the Atlantic
this year thanks to El Nino, but that will be compensated by an increase
in the Pacific.

William Hyde

A very good point, Sensei-Hyde. We do have a global civilization,or at least culture which means that trouble
elsewhere means trouble here somewhat diluted perhaps.
The current Middle-East adventure of the inept elected
President of the USA is an example.

bliss

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On 6/3/26 08:34, Paul S Person wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jun 2026 22:34:59 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:

On 6/2/2026 10:37 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
...

When considering phenomena like worshippers of Trump, it is important
to keep in mind that past people have also had some /very/ strange
beliefs which they asserted as facts.

Yeah, try James Talarico, nickname is Talarfreako

Scares Trump, so out come the nicknames. What is scary
for Trump is that James Talaricco is gaining votes in Texas.

Ah yes, more namecalling. 6th grade behavior, not
unexpected from you trumpets.

To be fair, IIRC, Hillary called MAGA "despicables" in 2016.

Actually "deplorables", a basket of same. After the attack
at the Capital by some of those, I think it is a just appellation.
Maybe the most deplorable of the basket were attackers..

Trump has said he loves the poorly educated. Degrading public education
has been part of the Republican plan for a long time. They after all go
to private preparatory schools and then the very best
colleges/Universities.
If they had been properly educated they would have recognized
Trump's programs from his speeches or maybe they are so low that they
need a class of other than white folks to look down upon.

But I'm not sure it's 6th grade level. More like 3rd grade, perhaps.

, who is running for
Senator from the Great State Of Texas:
1. God is non-binary

Which god?

Indeed and if any.

2. abortion is ok

Woman's choice, not yours.

The nation survived 50 years of abortion
on request. It may not survive the imposition of
ridiculous bronze age strictures.

3. transgenderism is ok

Personal choices are personal choices.

But is it a personal choice or does it have a genetic basis?

It may have a specific genetic basis or simply the result
of our big complicated brains. But the samples are too small to s
ay the cause, which is not "Transgender ideology", but powerful
internal drives which are real and lead to great unhappiness and
even suicide when ignored or thwarted.

People with transgender drives have been around for a long
time occupying the margins of society unless they were rich and famous
and surviving despite murderous discrimination.

4. gay marriage is ok

Seems to be working out at least for divorce lawyers.

Personal choices are personal choices.

And sometimes they are programmed into the organism.

5. many other crazy things such as global warming is caused by humans

It's true that it is a scientific fact that the globe is
warming due to the anthropogenic release of various IR
blocking atmospheric gasses.

Lynn's life and apparent wealth seem dependent on denial of
the effects of the Fossil Fuel Industry.

Denial is a river in Egypt.

Oh it is more than that and the river in Egypt is the Nile.

And none of this has anything to do with written science fiction.

Oh, I don't know. Heinlein does refer to a certain "Scudder" who may
be considered to have been manifested by Trump.

Scudder was supposed to be a true religious fanatic.

Trump is a truly stupid man who uses the religious right to
gain power and money. The religious right and the insanely wealthy
use him but he is a rambunctious puppet who thinks he has the right
to destroy the people's White House and build pointless monuments
to himself as well as start wars damaging to the World's economy.

Lynn believes in SF. The sort that scientist abhor.

bliss * quit fighting with Thunderbird and got her email
and Usenet back with Betterbird after more than 2 weeks.

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On 6/5/2026 3:35 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:

On 6/4/2026 11:41 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 6/4/2026 10:18 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Tue, 2 Jun 2026 18:48:22 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

Prove it to me that AGW is scientific fact.

House insurance premiums against natural disasters going up not rCLfactrCY >>> enough for you? Happening in Texas even, where IrCOm sure there must be
numbers of climate-change deniers above the US national average.

The insurance companies understand it better than you do: money talks,
while ideology just blows hot air.

Sigh.-a Both raw materials and labor have doubled in price since 2020
making fixing a house very expensive.-a And the profitability of
insurance companies and especially Re, the reinsurance company that
Berkshire Hathaway owns, have skyrocketed.

We have always had natural disasters in Texas coupled with great
population increases.-a My family moved to the Houston area in 1972
which was about two million population.-a The Houston area population
is now around eight million and growing at 100,0000 to 200,000 people
per year.

And all of this while the number of hurricanes has decreased.

FFS Lynn, where do you pull this nonsense from?

The number of hurricanes per year is on a clear UPWARD trend.

Check the data:

https://www.aldogiammusso.com/blog/hurricane-activity-analysis-1900-to-2024

While the notes point out that the early data may be erroneously low
since storms which never hit land might miss being recorded, if
you just look at the data from 1960s on, when weather satellites came
into use, there's about a doubling in the number of storms over thg
past 60 years.

Can you admit that you're in error?

No, he can't. Literally physically unable to. I would have thought
that was obvious by now....
--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.
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On 6/5/2026 7:20 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 6/5/2026 5:35 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:

On 6/4/2026 11:41 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:

On 6/4/2026 10:18 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Tue, 2 Jun 2026 18:48:22 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

Prove it to me that AGW is scientific fact.

House insurance premiums against natural disasters going up not rCLfactrCY >>>> enough for you? Happening in Texas even, where IrCOm sure there must be >>>> numbers of climate-change deniers above the US national average.

The insurance companies understand it better than you do: money talks, >>>> while ideology just blows hot air.

Sigh.-a Both raw materials and labor have doubled in price since 2020
making fixing a house very expensive.-a And the profitability of
insurance companies and especially Re, the reinsurance company that
Berkshire Hathaway owns, have skyrocketed.

We have always had natural disasters in Texas coupled with great
population increases.-a My family moved to the Houston area in 1972
which was about two million population.-a The Houston area population
is now around eight million and growing at 100,0000 to 200,000 people
per year.

And all of this while the number of hurricanes has decreased.

FFS Lynn, where do you pull this nonsense from?

The number of hurricanes per year is on a clear UPWARD trend.

Check the data:

https://www.aldogiammusso.com/blog/hurricane-activity-analysis-1900-
to-2024

While the notes point out that the early data may be erroneously low
since storms which never hit land might miss being recorded, if
you just look at the data from 1960s on, when weather satellites came
into use, there's about a doubling in the number of storms over thg
past 60 years.

Can you admit that you're in error?

pt

Nope.

In that case, please address the evidence I have linked, and explain
why you disregard it.

pt

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