On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 05:30:43 -0000 (UTC), quadi wrote:
The world *needs* the United States of America. Badly.
At one time, it was thought that the world *needs* the Bitish Empire.
Badly.
And before that others would have felt the same about the Spanish. And
before them, the Ottomans. And the Romans. And Alexander the Great.
And so on and so on and so on.
Empires come and go. The fact that there is no obvious single
superpower to take the place of the USA is, on balance, a Good Thing.
Also, if the Democrats win the mid-terms, everything that goes wrong
after that will be blamed on them because they are in charge. For the >longer-run good of the country, it would be better to have the
Republicans in charge through 2030 so the blame can be placed where it >belongs and Trump will have the opportunity to foul things up so badly
that no amount of Democratic Party effort -- no, not even unleasing
Bernie and Hillary -- will keep them from winning in 2030.
On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 15:15:52 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 4/10/2026 3:37 AM, Lawrence DAOliveiro wrote:
Empires come and go. The fact that there is no obvious single
superpower to take the place of the USA is, on balance, a Good Thing.
It would be a death match between China and ... China.
Without the United States, Taiwan really has no hope of successfully >defending itself against a determined attack by the PRC.
John Savard
The United States had been the defender of threatened small democracies, >like South Korea, Taiwan, and Israel.
It took me a few moments to realize that what this means is that you think >that Alexandria Occasio-Cortez and Gavin Newsom would be such disasters
for the nation that the Republicans are wise to continue to stick with >Trump.
I'll admit that Alexandria Occasio-Cortez would not be my first choice for >the next President of the United States, but worse than Trump?
If I remember correctly, Hong Kong was basically leased to the Brits for
99 years. The lease was up and wasn't being renewed, so the Brits
honored their contract and went home. Not really good for the people of
Hong Kong, but the Brits acted honorably on the international stage. The >current US regime has no such honor.
The U.S. is even still performing its deterrent function to some extent >under Trump, although given his threats against Canada and Greenland, I >cannot be sure how long this will continue. My current advice for Canada
is for it to obtain its very own strategic nuclear deterrent as soon as >possible, so as to ensure its sovereignty and freedom regardless of what >Trump's shifting moods may do.
On 4/13/2026 6:42 PM, quadi wrote:Perhaps, but John's last two paragraphs very accurately described the
On Mon, 13 Apr 2026 10:47:04 -0700, BCFD 36 wrote:
Not really good for the people of
Hong Kong, but the Brits acted honorably on the international stage.
There is no honor in abandoning free people to tyranny, simply in order to >> abide by an agreement made with a tyrant.
So if the PRC didn't have nukes, carrying out regime change there would
have been entirely right and proper. It would have been good for the
people of Tibet and the Uyghurs as well as the Chinese people.
The 99 year lease which expired was only on the "New Territories", but
without them, the rest of Hong Kong couldn't really have managed on its
own. That, though, is just a detail.
John Savard
John, you are by far the most hawkish person in this group. You're very >willing to spill American blood, often on issues which don't affect us
at all.
pt
As for Taiwan ... where was the US when Hong Kong lost its autonomy?
Autonomy? The lease ran out, that's all.
And if you are stupid enough to believe that the PRC was going to let >Honkers go it's merry way unrestrained I have this bridge to sell you...
If I remember correctly, Hong Kong was basically leased to the Brits forAnd the terms of the turnover included that Hong Kong would keep its
99 years. The lease was up and wasn't being renewed, so the Brits
honored their contract and went home. Not really good for the people of
Hong Kong, but the Brits acted honorably on the international stage. The
current US regime has no such honor.
local government and a large degree of autonomy.
The lease would have been with the last Imperial Chinese Govenment.
They were the same sort of Tyranny that the British Empire imposed on
its colonies.
We like to export our 2nd Amendment....
Killing your children is your own affair. But looking the other way
while weapons are illegally crossing your borders means you are no
longer being a good neighbour to those around you who didnrCOt ask for
this.
On Mon, 13 Apr 2026 10:47:04 -0700, BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> wrote:
If I remember correctly, Hong Kong was basically leased to the Brits for
99 years. The lease was up and wasn't being renewed, so the Brits
honored their contract and went home. Not really good for the people of
Hong Kong, but the Brits acted honorably on the international stage. The
current US regime has no such honor.
I've made 8 trips to Hong Kong both before and after 1 July 1997 and
there's no question China initially took a VERY light hand with Hong
Kong and has been ratcheting up the pressure year by year starting
about from 2007.
On Mon, 13 Apr 2026 05:55:45 -0000 (UTC), quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid>twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other
wrote:
It took me a few moments to realize that what this means is that you think >>that Alexandria Occasio-Cortez and Gavin Newsom would be such disasters >>for the nation that the Republicans are wise to continue to stick with >>Trump.Barring tearing up the Constitution how do you get Trump in 2028? <https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/amendments/amendment-xxii>: "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than
I'll admit that Alexandria Occasio-Cortez would not be my first choice for >>the next President of the United States, but worse than Trump?
Should any GOP supporter actually WANT that? Donald Trump was born inSince it isn't one now, the answer is clearly -- never.
June 1946 and thus would be 82 years old at the end of the present
term. Even were it constitutionally possible, would you really want an
86 year old in the White House? At what point does his health become a >factor?
On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 08:36:26 -0700, Paul S Person ><psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:Considering that it's been a month, I suspect that I had my dates
Also, if the Democrats win the mid-terms, everything that goes wrong
after that will be blamed on them because they are in charge. For the >>longer-run good of the country, it would be better to have the
Republicans in charge through 2030 so the blame can be placed where it >>belongs and Trump will have the opportunity to foul things up so badly
that no amount of Democratic Party effort -- no, not even unleasing
Bernie and Hillary -- will keep them from winning in 2030.
I don't terribly disagree with you but 2028 is the presidential
election with 2030 being the mid-term congressional elections.
Is that your point or do you have your dates confused?
On Mon, 13 Apr 2026 05:55:45 -0000 (UTC), quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid>
wrote:
It took me a few moments to realize that what this means is that you think >> that Alexandria Occasio-Cortez and Gavin Newsom would be such disastersBarring tearing up the Constitution how do you get Trump in 2028?
for the nation that the Republicans are wise to continue to stick with
Trump.
I'll admit that Alexandria Occasio-Cortez would not be my first choice for >> the next President of the United States, but worse than Trump?
Should any GOP supporter actually WANT that? Donald Trump was born in
June 1946 and thus would be 82 years old at the end of the present
term. Even were it constitutionally possible, would you really want an
86 year old in the White House? At what point does his health become a factor?
On Mon, 13 Apr 2026 05:55:45 -0000 (UTC), quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid>
wrote:
It took me a few moments to realize that what this means is that you think >> that Alexandria Occasio-Cortez and Gavin Newsom would be such disastersBarring tearing up the Constitution how do you get Trump in 2028?
for the nation that the Republicans are wise to continue to stick with
Trump.
I'll admit that Alexandria Occasio-Cortez would not be my first choice for >> the next President of the United States, but worse than Trump?
Should any GOP supporter actually WANT that? Donald Trump was born in
June 1946 and thus would be 82 years old at the end of the present
term. Even were it constitutionally possible, would you really want an
86 year old in the White House? At what point does his health become a factor?
Consider - Barron Trump will be of voting age at the end of Trump's
current term. He was 10 years old when his father was first elected president.
Now I know kids can understand politics at an early age - my
grandfather made his first of two unsuccessful runs for the Canadian Parliament when I was 9 which was when I met the former prime minister
who was party leader of my grandfather's party. And I definitely
watched the election results on TV that year and have done every
election since.
On Wed, 15 Apr 2026 03:28:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D-|Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
We like to export our 2nd Amendment....
Killing your children is your own affair. But looking the other way
while weapons are illegally crossing your borders means you are no
longer being a good neighbour to those around you who didn|ore4raot ask for >> this.
There are of course more ways to kill people than firearms - over the
last 20 years Chinese mobsters have made billions shipping fentanyl precursors to Mexico from which heroin and fentanyl are manufactured
by the Mexican mob with a fair amount of both finished fentanyl and
fentanyl precursors then shipped to the US. And quite a large amount
of that comes to Canada which is why I am angry with Trump on his drug
policy
On Wed, 15 Apr 2026 03:28:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
We like to export our 2nd Amendment....
Killing your children is your own affair. But looking the other way
while weapons are illegally crossing your borders means you are no
longer being a good neighbour to those around you who didnrCOt ask
for this.
There are of course more ways to kill people than firearms ...
Barring tearing up the Constitution how do you get Trump in 2028?
Should any GOP supporter actually WANT
that? Donald Trump was born in June 1946 and
thus would be 82 years old at the end of the
present term. Even were it constitutionally
possible, would you really want an 86 year
old in the White House? At what point does his
health become a factor?
And his present term may be the worst ever for
Democracy in the Republic as he has totally
disregard the Constitutional limits on his
powers and the Powers of the the Congress.
On 2026-05-07, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
And his present term may be the worst ever for
Democracy in the Republic as he has totally
disregard the Constitutional limits on his
powers and the Powers of the the Congress.
Three years ago Joe Biden qualified as the
dumbest moron in my kindergarten class many
decades ago.
On Wed, 06 May 2026 23:44:58 -0700, The Horny Goat wrote:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2026 03:28:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
We like to export our 2nd Amendment....
Killing your children is your own affair. But looking the other way
while weapons are illegally crossing your borders means you are no
longer being a good neighbour to those around you who didnrCOt ask
for this.
There are of course more ways to kill people than firearms ...
But firearms are the main source of the problem.
On 08/05/2026 13:39, oldernow wrote:
On 2026-05-07, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
And his present term may be the worst ever for
Democracy in the Republic as he has totally
disregard the Constitutional limits on his
powers and the Powers of the the Congress.
Three years ago Joe Biden qualified as the
dumbest moron in my kindergarten class many
decades ago.
Why did it take so long to determine who was the dumbest?
Did Joe face tough competition?
From someone who was youngerthen?
On 5/7/26 21:04, Titus G wrote:
On 08/05/2026 13:39, oldernow wrote:
On 2026-05-07, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
And his present term may be the worst ever for
Democracy in the Republic as he has totally
disregard the Constitutional limits on his
powers and the Powers of the the Congress.
Three years ago Joe Biden qualified as the
dumbest moron in my kindergarten class many
decades ago.
Why did it take so long to determine who was the dumbest?
Did Joe face tough competition?
-aFrom someone who was youngerthen?
-a-a-a-aWell he was ...... snipped
On 08/05/2026 13:39, oldernow wrote:
On 2026-05-07, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
And his present term may be the worst ever for
Democracy in the Republic as he has totally
disregard the Constitutional limits on his
powers and the Powers of the the Congress.
Three years ago Joe Biden qualified as the
dumbest moron in my kindergarten class many
decades ago.
Why did it take so long to determine who was
the dumbest? Did Joe face tough competition?
From someone who was youngerthen?
On 5/7/26 21:04, Titus G wrote:
On 08/05/2026 13:39, oldernow wrote:
On 2026-05-07, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
And his present term may be the worst ever for
Democracy in the Republic as he has totally
disregard the Constitutional limits on his
powers and the Powers of the the Congress.
Three years ago Joe Biden qualified as the
dumbest moron in my kindergarten class many
decades ago.
Why did it take so long to determine who was the dumbest?
Did Joe face tough competition?
From someone who was youngerthen?
Well he was ill and debated Trump. It looked
very bad. He was not getting the press he
deserved due to fact that the owners of press,
social media, and ISPs are biilionaires and
Trumpians. But he understood what was going
on in far more detail than Trump.
He was not left wing except in the same sense
as Abraham Lincoln nor a socialist Democrat
but he followed Trump's deal with the Taliban
which won him no good publicity.
Barring tearing up the Constitution how do you get Trump in 2028?
Should any GOP supporter actually WANT that? Donald Trump was born in
June 1946 and thus would be 82 years old at the end of the present
term. Even were it constitutionally possible, would you really want an
86 year old in the White House? At what point does his health become a >factor?
Which problem are you talking about ? Homicides or suicides ?
Take away firearms, never gonna happen, and almost the same number of >homicides will occur with knives.
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
Barring tearing up the Constitution how do you get Trump in 2028?
I think the tearing up of the constitution is
what people are afraid of, yes. We're already
seeing constitutional protections being chipped
away. I don't see even the current supreme
court being willing to throw things out that
dramatically, but I can understand that some do.
Should any GOP supporter actually WANT
that? Donald Trump was born in June 1946 and
thus would be 82 years old at the end of the
present term. Even were it constitutionally
possible, would you really want an 86 year
old in the White House? At what point does
his health become a factor?
There is a relatively small number of GOP
supporters who seem to believe that Trump
is sustained by God and that consequently
evertything he does is a work of God. There
aren't many of these but they are very vocal.
There also are GOP members who believe that
Trump is a useful idiot. I don't really know
how many of these there are and I think there
are many fewer than there were a year ago.
But they want cultural change and they will
support anyone who will promote it at all costs.
Are these groups enough to force such a dramatic
change? Probably not, but they sure are loud.
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
Which problem are you talking about ?
Homicides or suicides ?
Take away firearms, never gonna happen, and
almost the same number of homicides will occur
with knives.
It's a lot harder to kill people with knives
than guns. Taking away firearms will certainly
not reduce attempted homicides at all but it
is likely to reduce successful ones a lot.
The Army attempted to teach us to kill people
with knives and bayonets and I don't think I
could ever do it in real life.
Taking away firearms isn't going to happen
in the US but doing it in the UK was pretty
impressive. On the other hand, Thailand
has a remarkably low homicide rate in spite
of a firearm ownership rate that is nearly a
third that of the US. There's a lot of stuff
going on.
The Horny Goat wrote:Anything any Republican says must be considered a lie until thoroughly
On Wed, 15 Apr 2026 03:28:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
We like to export our 2nd Amendment....
Killing your children is your own affair. But looking the other way
while weapons are illegally crossing your borders means you are no
longer being a good neighbour to those around you who didnrCOt ask for
this.
There are of course more ways to kill people than firearms - over the
last 20 years Chinese mobsters have made billions shipping fentanyl
precursors to Mexico from which heroin and fentanyl are manufactured
by the Mexican mob with a fair amount of both finished fentanyl and
fentanyl precursors then shipped to the US. And quite a large amount
of that comes to Canada which is why I am angry with Trump on his drug
policy
Trump's claims about fentanyl coming from Canada are a simple lie. The >cited amount is the total seized by the Northern Border force, with
Trump and his stooges claiming that all such seizures come from Canada.
But this is utterly false. The largest single seizure, made in Spokane,
has been traced back as far as Arizona. Only a tiny fraction of the
total claimed is believed to have come from Canada.
It's a good lie because simpletons look at that word "Border" and assumeIIRC, 100 miles inland. Hence, yes, Spokane. And, probably, Milwaukee.
the force is actually at the border. In fact they operate in about a
third of the country.
It's also worth noting that a fentanyl pill sells for about ten timesWhich is good news for the USA, I suppose, although it doesn't seem to
more in Vancouver than it does in Washington. There's simply no
incentive to ship it south.
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:Both are wrong.
Barring tearing up the Constitution how do you get Trump in 2028?
I think the tearing up of the constitution is what people are afraid of,
yes. We're already seeing constitutional protections being chipped away.
I don't see even the current supreme court being willing to throw things
out that dramatically, but I can understand that some do.
Should any GOP supporter actually WANT that? Donald Trump was born in
June 1946 and thus would be 82 years old at the end of the present
term. Even were it constitutionally possible, would you really want an
86 year old in the White House? At what point does his health become a >>factor?
There is a relatively small number of GOP supporters who seem to believe
that Trump is sustained by God and that consequently evertything he does
is a work of God. There aren't many of these but they are very vocal.
There also are GOP members who believe that Trump is a useful idiot. I
don't really know how many of these there are and I think there are many >fewer than there were a year ago. But they want cultural change and they >will support anyone who will promote it at all costs.
Anything any Republican says must be considered
a lie until thoroughly vetted. That is what it
means to lie like rugs.
Trump is in no way "useful".
On Thu, 7 May 2026 16:42:54 -0400, William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com>...
wrote:
The Horny Goat wrote:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2026 03:28:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D-|Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
We like to export our 2nd Amendment....
Killing your children is your own affair. But looking the other way
while weapons are illegally crossing your borders means you are no
longer being a good neighbour to those around you who didn|ore4raot ask for
this.
There are of course more ways to kill people than firearms - over the
last 20 years Chinese mobsters have made billions shipping fentanyl
precursors to Mexico from which heroin and fentanyl are manufactured
by the Mexican mob with a fair amount of both finished fentanyl and
fentanyl precursors then shipped to the US. And quite a large amount
of that comes to Canada which is why I am angry with Trump on his drug
policy
Trump's claims about fentanyl coming from Canada are a simple lie. The
cited amount is the total seized by the Northern Border force, with
Trump and his stooges claiming that all such seizures come from Canada.
But this is utterly false. The largest single seizure, made in Spokane,
has been traced back as far as Arizona. Only a tiny fraction of the
total claimed is believed to have come from Canada.
Anything any Republican says must be considered a lie until thoroughly vetted. That is what it means to lie like rugs.
On 2026-05-08, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
On 5/7/26 21:04, Titus G wrote:
On 08/05/2026 13:39, oldernow wrote:
On 2026-05-07, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
And his present term may be the worst ever for
Democracy in the Republic as he has totally
disregard the Constitutional limits on his
powers and the Powers of the the Congress.
Three years ago Joe Biden qualified as the
dumbest moron in my kindergarten class many
decades ago.
Why did it take so long to determine who was the dumbest?
Did Joe face tough competition?
From someone who was youngerthen?
Well he was ill and debated Trump. It looked
very bad. He was not getting the press he
deserved due to fact that the owners of press,
social media, and ISPs are biilionaires and
Trumpians. But he understood what was going
on in far more detail than Trump.
*What*? Since when does deer in the headlights
eyes combined with drool slipping over the
quivering lower lip constitute "going on
in far more detail"?
He was not left wing except in the same sense
as Abraham Lincoln nor a socialist Democrat
but he followed Trump's deal with the Taliban
which won him no good publicity.
Given your assessment of Joe and other matters,
you regularly demonstrate being basically the
Joe Biden of this newsgroup.
On 2026-05-08, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
Trump is in no way "useful".
Oh, I dunno... he's helped me positively identify
hysterical murmuring morons on a daily basis for
a solid decade.
On 5/8/2026 11:01 AM, oldernow wrote:
On 2026-05-08, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
Trump is in no way "useful".
Oh, I dunno... he's helped me positively identify
hysterical murmuring morons on a daily basis for
a solid decade.
I got more than I wanted from Trump by his nomination and ascension of
three conservative justices to SCOTUS.-a Everything else is gravy.
Right now, Trump is lancing a boil in the Middle East.-a It is incredibly painful, given that the boil has existed for 47 years.-a But future generations will thank him.-a And so far, that lancing is being performed without USA boots on the ground.
Lynn
On 5/8/26 13:03, Lynn McGuire wrote:
On 5/8/2026 11:01 AM, oldernow wrote:
On 2026-05-08, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
Trump is in no way "useful".
Oh, I dunno... he's helped me positively identify
hysterical murmuring morons on a daily basis for
a solid decade.
I got more than I wanted from Trump by his nomination and ascension of
three conservative justices to SCOTUS.-a Everything else is gravy.
Right now, Trump is lancing a boil in the Middle East.-a It is
incredibly painful, given that the boil has existed for 47 years.-a But
future generations will thank him.-a And so far, that lancing is being
performed without USA boots on the ground.
Lynn
-a-a-a-aSo many delusions...
On 5/8/2026 10:05 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
Anything any Republican says must be considered
a lie until thoroughly vetted. That is what
it means to lie like rugs.
Anything a liberal says must be considered a
lie even after vetting.
On 5/8/2026 11:01 AM, oldernow wrote:
On 2026-05-08, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
Trump is in no way "useful".
Oh, I dunno... he's helped me positively
identify hysterical murmuring morons on a
daily basis for a solid decade.
I got more than I wanted from Trump by his
nomination and ascension of three conservative
justices to SCOTUS. Everything else is gravy.
Right now, Trump is lancing a boil in the
Middle East. It is incredibly painful, given
that the boil has existed for 47 years. But
future generations will thank him. And so far,
that lancing is being performed without USA
boots on the ground.
On 2026-05-08, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/8/2026 11:01 AM, oldernow wrote:
On 2026-05-08, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
Trump is in no way "useful".
Oh, I dunno... he's helped me positively
identify hysterical murmuring morons on a
daily basis for a solid decade.
I got more than I wanted from Trump by his
nomination and ascension of three conservative
justices to SCOTUS. Everything else is gravy.
Right now, Trump is lancing a boil in the
Middle East. It is incredibly painful, given
that the boil has existed for 47 years. But
future generations will thank him. And so far,
that lancing is being performed without USA
boots on the ground.
That's all good and well, but for me his most
valuable achievement has been smoking out
those predisposed to derangement. It's
nice to know someone is thusly
mentally disabled in advance,
lest one make the mistake of
trusting such, only to learn
too late their head is other
than in the real world, and
thus incapable of much but
playing victim cards,
virtue signaling,
losing their shit
in public, etc.
On Fri, 8 May 2026 10:49:09 -0400 (EDT), kludge@panix.com (Scott
Dorsey) wrote:
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
Barring tearing up the Constitution how do you get Trump in 2028?
I think the tearing up of the constitution is what people are afraid of,
yes. We're already seeing constitutional protections being chipped away.
I don't see even the current supreme court being willing to throw things
out that dramatically, but I can understand that some do.
Should any GOP supporter actually WANT that? Donald Trump was born in
June 1946 and thus would be 82 years old at the end of the present
term. Even were it constitutionally possible, would you really want an
86 year old in the White House? At what point does his health become a
factor?
There is a relatively small number of GOP supporters who seem to believe
that Trump is sustained by God and that consequently evertything he does
is a work of God. There aren't many of these but they are very vocal.
There also are GOP members who believe that Trump is a useful idiot. I
don't really know how many of these there are and I think there are many
fewer than there were a year ago. But they want cultural change and they
will support anyone who will promote it at all costs.
Both are wrong.
Trump is in no way "useful".
On 5/8/2026 11:11 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Fri, 8 May 2026 10:49:09 -0400 (EDT), kludge@panix.com (Scott
Dorsey) wrote:
The Horny Goat-a <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
Barring tearing up the Constitution how do you get Trump in 2028?
I think the tearing up of the constitution is what people are afraid of, >>> yes.-a We're already seeing constitutional protections being chipped
away.
I don't see even the current supreme court being willing to throw things >>> out that dramatically, but I can understand that some do.
Should any GOP supporter actually WANT that? Donald Trump was born in
June 1946 and thus would be 82 years old at the end of the present
term. Even were it constitutionally possible, would you really want an >>>> 86 year old in the White House? At what point does his health become a >>>> factor?
There is a relatively small number of GOP supporters who seem to believe >>> that Trump is sustained by God and that consequently evertything he does >>> is a work of God.-a There aren't many of these but they are very vocal.
There also are GOP members who believe that Trump is a useful idiot.-a I >>> don't really know how many of these there are and I think there are many >>> fewer than there were a year ago.-a But they want cultural change and
they
will support anyone who will promote it at all costs.
Both are wrong.
Trump is in no way "useful".
Not to you.
Not to me.
But he's been incredibly useful to Putin.
Why work on bringing the West down when
you can promote the election of leaders who
will do it for you?
pt
On 5/8/2026 8:10 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote:
On 5/8/2026 11:11 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
On Fri, 8 May 2026 10:49:09 -0400 (EDT), kludge@panix.com (Scott
Dorsey) wrote:
The Horny Goat-a <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
Barring tearing up the Constitution how do you get Trump in 2028?
I think the tearing up of the constitution is what people are afraid
of,
yes.-a We're already seeing constitutional protections being chipped
away.
I don't see even the current supreme court being willing to throw
things
out that dramatically, but I can understand that some do.
Should any GOP supporter actually WANT that? Donald Trump was born in >>>>> June 1946 and thus would be 82 years old at the end of the present
term. Even were it constitutionally possible, would you really want an >>>>> 86 year old in the White House? At what point does his health become a >>>>> factor?
There is a relatively small number of GOP supporters who seem to
believe
that Trump is sustained by God and that consequently evertything he
does
is a work of God.-a There aren't many of these but they are very vocal. >>>>
There also are GOP members who believe that Trump is a useful idiot.-a I >>>> don't really know how many of these there are and I think there are
many
fewer than there were a year ago.-a But they want cultural change and >>>> they
will support anyone who will promote it at all costs.
Both are wrong.
Trump is in no way "useful".
Not to you.
Not to me.
But he's been incredibly useful to Putin.
Why work on bringing the West down when
you can promote the election of leaders who
will do it for you?
pt
And another TDS sufferer bites the dust.
Lynn
But he's been incredibly useful to Putin.
Taking away firearms isn't going to happen in the US but doing it in
the UK was pretty impressive.
People sure do love imagining - and then believing in - causes tied
to effects!
I've made 8 trips to Hong Kong both before and after 1 July 1997 and
there's no question China initially took a VERY light hand with Hong
Kong and has been ratcheting up the pressure year by year starting
about from 2007.
On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 08:37:59 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D-|Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Empires come and go. The fact that there is no obvious single
superpower to take the place of the USA is, on balance, a Good
Thing.
Certainly the only real alternative candidate would be a horror for
humanity as any Urghur would tell you.
Anything a liberal says must be considered a lie even after vetting.
Barring tearing up the Constitution how do you get Trump in 2028?
Lynn, have you bitten the dust because you are
the clearest sufferer of TDS aka Extreme Trumphilia
whom I have ever engaged in conversation with even
in this diffuse medium.
On Fri, 8 May 2026 15:01:04 -0000 (UTC), oldernow wrote:
People sure do love imagining - and then believing in - causes tied
to effects!
I wonder where you get that idea from ...
On Fri, 8 May 2026 10:55:15 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:
Taking away firearms isn't going to happen in the US but doing it in
the UK was pretty impressive.
Worked in Australia, too, after Port Arthur. And here in NZ we are
trying to follow the Australian example after our own nasty mass
shooting.
On Fri, 8 May 2026 14:53:12 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
Anything a liberal says must be considered a
lie even after vetting.
Is the whole of science considered a Liberal
conspiracy?
On Fri, 8 May 2026 10:55:15 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:
Taking away firearms isn't going to happen in the US but doing it in
the UK was pretty impressive.
Worked in Australia, too, after Port Arthur. And here in NZ we are
trying to follow the Australian example after our own nasty mass
shooting.
On Fri, 8 May 2026 14:53:12 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:I don't know about that, although it wouldn't surprise me, but one of
Anything a liberal says must be considered a lie even after vetting.
Is the whole of science considered a Liberal conspiracy?
On 5/8/2026 11:01 AM, oldernow wrote:So far.
On 2026-05-08, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
Trump is in no way "useful".
Oh, I dunno... he's helped me positively identify
hysterical murmuring morons on a daily basis for
a solid decade.
I got more than I wanted from Trump by his nomination and ascension of
three conservative justices to SCOTUS. Everything else is gravy.
Right now, Trump is lancing a boil in the Middle East. It is incredibly >painful, given that the boil has existed for 47 years. But future >generations will thank him. And so far, that lancing is being performed >without USA boots on the ground.
Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
Lynn, have you bitten the dust because you
are the clearest sufferer of TDS aka Extreme
Trumphilia whom I have ever engaged in
conversation with even in this diffuse medium.
You should come South and see what it's like
here. Lynn isn't even close to being the most
extreme. We have a large number of people who
have an abiding faith in the man no matter
what happens and no matter what he does. They
have faith in the party and in their senator
or congressman but not like they do in Trump.
I am seeing support for Trump among random
people dropping considerably, including random
people who supported him, but the true believers
remain and haven't changed.
I suspect this will outlast Trump, the same way
that we had people in the eighties who were
upset at Reagan for not being Goldwater, but
the numbers of Trump diehards is much greater
than the number of Goldwater diehards ever was.
At least we haven't turned elections over
to Multivac.
On Fri, 8 May 2026 15:03:55 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/8/2026 11:01 AM, oldernow wrote:
On 2026-05-08, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
Trump is in no way "useful".
Oh, I dunno... he's helped me positively identify
hysterical murmuring morons on a daily basis for
a solid decade.
I got more than I wanted from Trump by his nomination and ascension of >>three conservative justices to SCOTUS. Everything else is gravy.
Right now, Trump is lancing a boil in the Middle East. It is incredibly >>painful, given that the boil has existed for 47 years. But future >>generations will thank him. And so far, that lancing is being performed >>without USA boots on the ground.
So far.
Who can say what his desperation to dominate
the headlines will lead him to do in the future?
And the boil may be lanced, but it's still
there and, I suspect, will survive Trump and
continue to fester.
So Trump's only achievements wrt Iran are
things like depleting our weapon stockpiles,
enraging (and so uniting) the Iranians, and
giving them a source of income from bribes from
countries wanting their tankers to be safe in
its vicinity.
Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
Lynn, have you bitten the dust because you are
the clearest sufferer of TDS aka Extreme Trumphilia
whom I have ever engaged in conversation with even
in this diffuse medium.
You should come South and see what it's like here. Lynn isn't even
close to being the most extreme. We have a large number of people who
have an abiding faith in the man no matter what happens and no matter
what he does. They have faith in the party and in their senator or congressman but not like they do in Trump.
I am seeing support for Trump among random people dropping considerably, including random people who supported him, but the true believers remain
and haven't changed.
I suspect this will outlast Trump, the same way that we had people in
the eighties who were upset at Reagan for not being Goldwater, but the numbers of Trump diehards is much greater than the number of Goldwater diehards ever was.
At least we haven't turned elections over to Multivac.
--scott
On 2026-05-08, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 08/05/2026 13:39, oldernow wrote:
On 2026-05-07, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
And his present term may be the worst ever for
Democracy in the Republic as he has totally
disregard the Constitutional limits on his
powers and the Powers of the the Congress.
Three years ago Joe Biden qualified as the
dumbest moron in my kindergarten class many
decades ago.
Why did it take so long to determine who was
the dumbest? Did Joe face tough competition?
From someone who was youngerthen?
Well, again, dumbest in my kindergarten. In the
more far reaching bigger sense, the absolute
dumbest are those who, in polling stations,
found Mr. Bumbling Idiot "sharp as a tack"
fit for the Oval Office when that stupid fuck
wasn't even bright enough to finish a sentence.
On 2026-05-09, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 8 May 2026 15:03:55 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/8/2026 11:01 AM, oldernow wrote:
On 2026-05-08, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
Trump is in no way "useful".
Oh, I dunno... he's helped me positively identify
hysterical murmuring morons on a daily basis for
a solid decade.
I got more than I wanted from Trump by his nomination and ascension of
three conservative justices to SCOTUS. Everything else is gravy.
Right now, Trump is lancing a boil in the Middle East. It is incredibly >>> painful, given that the boil has existed for 47 years. But future
generations will thank him. And so far, that lancing is being performed >>> without USA boots on the ground.
So far.
Who can say what his desperation to dominate
the headlines will lead him to do in the future?
And the boil may be lanced, but it's still
there and, I suspect, will survive Trump and
continue to fester.
So Trump's only achievements wrt Iran are
things like depleting our weapon stockpiles,
enraging (and so uniting) the Iranians, and
giving them a source of income from bribes from
countries wanting their tankers to be safe in
its vicinity.
In your mind, apparently.
As for in alleged objective reality, well, only
an unbiased subject could say, and there is no
such thing, so.
On 08/05/2026 23:37, oldernow wrote:
On 2026-05-08, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 08/05/2026 13:39, oldernow wrote:
On 2026-05-07, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
And his present term may be the worst ever for
Democracy in the Republic as he has totally
disregard the Constitutional limits on his
powers and the Powers of the the Congress.
Three years ago Joe Biden qualified as the
dumbest moron in my kindergarten class many
decades ago.
Why did it take so long to determine who was
the dumbest? Did Joe face tough competition?
From someone who was youngerthen?
Well, again, dumbest in my kindergarten. In the
more far reaching bigger sense, the absolute
dumbest are those who, in polling stations,
found Mr. Bumbling Idiot "sharp as a tack"
fit for the Oval Office when that stupid fuck
wasn't even bright enough to finish a sentence.
Rather than answer my simple questions with
simple answers, you have chosen to continue
to express a political belief obtained through
hearsay in your own little "more far reaching
bigger sense of", reality.
I'll rephrase the question.
If you and Joe were in the same kindergarten
class, that would have been more than 75
years ago but the dumbest in the class wasn't
determined till 3 years ago. Was the title
debated for 7 decades and was youngerthen the
other contender?
On 10/05/2026 07:57, oldernow wrote:
On 2026-05-09, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:His most obvious achievement would be his
On Fri, 8 May 2026 15:03:55 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/8/2026 11:01 AM, oldernow wrote:
On 2026-05-08, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
Trump is in no way "useful".
Oh, I dunno... he's helped me positively identify
hysterical murmuring morons on a daily basis for
a solid decade.
I got more than I wanted from Trump by his nomination and ascension of >>>> three conservative justices to SCOTUS. Everything else is gravy.
Right now, Trump is lancing a boil in the Middle East. It is incredibly >>>> painful, given that the boil has existed for 47 years. But future
generations will thank him. And so far, that lancing is being performed >>>> without USA boots on the ground.
So far.
Who can say what his desperation to dominate
the headlines will lead him to do in the future?
And the boil may be lanced, but it's still
there and, I suspect, will survive Trump and
continue to fester.
So Trump's only achievements wrt Iran are
things like depleting our weapon stockpiles,
enraging (and so uniting) the Iranians, and
giving them a source of income from bribes from
countries wanting their tankers to be safe in
its vicinity.
In your mind, apparently.
As for in alleged objective reality, well, only
an unbiased subject could say, and there is no
such thing, so.
continuing deference to Israel, specifically
Netanyahu, in contrast to his narcissistic
personality.
Other obvious recent achievements
include massive increase in demand for oil
creating massive increase in prices and profits
for oil companies.
Recently, the Pentagon said the cost of
supporting Israel in Iran was 18 billion,
Democrats claim 630 billion, and the Harvard
academic who accurately predicted the cost of
the Iraq war, estimates 1 trillion.
The profit mark ups on Tomahawk missiles are
not disclosed though profits for munitions and
armed forces supply companies must have also
rocketed. With regard to future achievements,
he hasn't yet claimed that Greenland and Canada
are refining uranium.
The shooting was in early 1996, and the gun ban was instituted the
same year. Yet, murder rates didn't drop until 2003.
Are you doing the UK thing of setting out special protections for
hunting ...
... I'd certainly not be surprised to learn that contributions to
science from those who identify liberal have greater likelihood of
being closer to the quackery end of the spectrum.
On Sat, 9 May 2026 07:27:48 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:
Are you doing the UK thing of setting out special protections for
hunting ...
Not sure what the point of hunting is, actually. To call it a rCLsportrCY, the quarry would have to have a rCLsporting chancerCY of not only getting away, but of killing the hunter as well. Now *that* would add interest
to the game, donrCOt you think?
As far as hunting for food is concerned, thatrCOs inefficient,
expensive, and contaminates the environment (and the food yourCOre
trying to catch) with toxic metals.
On Sat, 9 May 2026 11:39:56 -0000 (UTC), oldernow wrote:
... I'd certainly not be surprised to learn
that contributions to science from those
who identify liberal have greater likelihood
of being closer to the quackery end of the
spectrum.
Conservatism, by definition, is about looking
to the past, is it not.
Whereas scientific investigation is always
about discovering something new. And sometimes
uncovering truths that may not sit comfortably
with our existing views.
On 5/9/2026 7:48 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 9 May 2026 07:27:48 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:
Are you doing the UK thing of setting out special protections for
hunting ...
Not sure what the point of hunting is, actually. To call it a rCLsportrCY, >> the quarry would have to have a rCLsporting chancerCY of not only getting
away, but of killing the hunter as well. Now *that* would add interest
to the game, donrCOt you think?
As far as hunting for food is concerned, thatrCOs inefficient,
expensive, and contaminates the environment (and the food yourCOre
trying to catch) with toxic metals.
In Britain and I suspect, New Zealand, hunting is a sport of the
elite; riding to hounds, or stalking elk in the Highlands.
For many rural working class Americans, its an economic way to put
meat on the table, mainly deer.
Our hunting culture isn't the same as yours.
pt
On Sat, 9 May 2026 07:27:48 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:
Are you doing the UK thing of setting out special protections for
hunting ...
Not sure what the point of hunting is, actually. To call it a rCLsportrCY, the quarry would have to have a rCLsporting chancerCY of not only getting away, but of killing the hunter as well. Now *that* would add interest
to the game, donrCOt you think?
As far as hunting for food is concerned, thatrCOs inefficient,--
expensive, and contaminates the environment (and the food yourCOre
trying to catch) with toxic metals.
On 5/9/2026 7:48 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 9 May 2026 07:27:48 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:
Are you doing the UK thing of setting out special protections for
hunting ...
Not sure what the point of hunting is, actually. To call it a "sport",
the quarry would have to have a "sporting chance" of not only getting
away, but of killing the hunter as well. Now *that* would add interest
to the game, don't you think?
As far as hunting for food is concerned, that's inefficient,
expensive, and contaminates the environment (and the food you're
trying to catch) with toxic metals.
In Britain and I suspect, New Zealand, hunting is a sport of the
elite; riding to hounds, or stalking elk in the Highlands.
For many rural working class Americans, its an economic way to put--
meat on the table, mainly deer.
Our hunting culture isn't the same as yours.
pt
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:[...]
Not sure what the point of hunting is, actually. To call it a "sport",
the quarry would have to have a "sporting chance" of not only getting
away, but of killing the hunter as well. Now *that* would add interest
to the game, don't you think?
ObSF: the Bandersnatch on Jinx, from Larry Niven.
On 2026-05-09, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 10/05/2026 07:57, oldernow wrote:
On 2026-05-09, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:His most obvious achievement would be his
On Fri, 8 May 2026 15:03:55 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/8/2026 11:01 AM, oldernow wrote:
On 2026-05-08, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>
Trump is in no way "useful".
Oh, I dunno... he's helped me positively identify
hysterical murmuring morons on a daily basis for
a solid decade.
I got more than I wanted from Trump by his nomination and ascension of >>>>> three conservative justices to SCOTUS. Everything else is gravy.
Right now, Trump is lancing a boil in the Middle East. It is incredibly >>>>> painful, given that the boil has existed for 47 years. But future
generations will thank him. And so far, that lancing is being performed >>>>> without USA boots on the ground.
So far.
Who can say what his desperation to dominate
the headlines will lead him to do in the future?
And the boil may be lanced, but it's still
there and, I suspect, will survive Trump and
continue to fester.
So Trump's only achievements wrt Iran are
things like depleting our weapon stockpiles,
enraging (and so uniting) the Iranians, and
giving them a source of income from bribes from
countries wanting their tankers to be safe in
its vicinity.
In your mind, apparently.
As for in alleged objective reality, well, only
an unbiased subject could say, and there is no
such thing, so.
continuing deference to Israel, specifically
Netanyahu, in contrast to his narcissistic
personality.
I keep finding that notions about reality
obvious in one contextuality context (aka
mind) are hardly necessarily obvious in
another.
Do narcissistic personalities bother you?
Other obvious recent achievements
include massive increase in demand for oil
creating massive increase in prices and profits
for oil companies.
Do they have to raise the prices? Which gun is
being held to whose head in that price-raising
scenario?
Looks like greed to me. How about we focus on
fixing the root cause instead of applying useless
bandages and/or pig lipstick?
Recently, the Pentagon said the cost of
supporting Israel in Iran was 18 billion,
Democrats claim 630 billion, and the Harvard
academic who accurately predicted the cost of
the Iraq war, estimates 1 trillion.
Separate conceptuality contexts steered
by separate notions of individuality
conceptualizing about an alleged
reality in different ways.
Surprise, surprise!
The profit mark ups on Tomahawk missiles are
not disclosed though profits for munitions and
armed forces supply companies must have also
rocketed. With regard to future achievements,
he hasn't yet claimed that Greenland and Canada
are refining uranium.
Why are you obsessed with Trump? I hardly think
about him. But when I do there's no increase in
pulse rate, no shallowness of breath, no shake
a fist at the sky, scream, etc. But, my gosh,
those of you so utterly pwned by him!
On 5/9/2026 6:22 PM, oldernow wrote:
Why are you obsessed with Trump? I hardly think
about him. But when I do there's no increase in
pulse rate, no shallowness of breath, no shake
a fist at the sky, scream, etc. But, my gosh,
those of you so utterly pwned by him!
"Obama admits political demands caused 'genuine
tension' in marriage"
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/05/04/barack-obama-marriage-michelle-obama-donald-trump-presidency/89935266007/
Trump is living rent-free in Obama's brain.
That said, in my private conceptuality context the symbol
'conservativism' doesn't seem to be about looking to the past. What
seems obvious about the word visually is it implying a behavioral
leaning in the direction of conserving something that might
otherwise be more liberally used.
On Sun, 10 May 2026 00:57:21 -0000 (UTC), oldernow wrote:
That said, in my private conceptuality
context the symbol 'conservativism' doesn't
seem to be about looking to the past. What
seems obvious about the word visually is it
implying a behavioral leaning in the direction
of conserving something that might otherwise
be more liberally used.
ThatrCOs a pretty serious mixup between rCLconservatismrCY
and rCLconservationrCY. English not your first language?
On 5/9/2026 6:22 PM, oldernow wrote:
On 2026-05-09, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
On 10/05/2026 07:57, oldernow wrote:
On 2026-05-09, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:His most obvious achievement would be his
On Fri, 8 May 2026 15:03:55 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/8/2026 11:01 AM, oldernow wrote:
On 2026-05-08, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>
Trump is in no way "useful".
Oh, I dunno... he's helped me positively identify
hysterical murmuring morons on a daily basis for
a solid decade.
I got more than I wanted from Trump by his nomination and
ascension of
three conservative justices to SCOTUS.-a Everything else is gravy. >>>>>>
Right now, Trump is lancing a boil in the Middle East.-a It is
incredibly
painful, given that the boil has existed for 47 years.-a But future >>>>>> generations will thank him.-a And so far, that lancing is being
performed
without USA boots on the ground.
So far.
Who can say what his desperation to dominate
the headlines will lead him to do in the future?
And the boil may be lanced, but it's still
there and, I suspect, will survive Trump and
continue to fester.
So Trump's only achievements wrt Iran are
things like depleting our weapon stockpiles,
enraging (and so uniting) the Iranians, and
giving them a source of income from bribes from
countries wanting their tankers to be safe in
its vicinity.
In your mind, apparently.
As for in alleged objective reality, well, only
an unbiased subject could say, and there is no
such thing, so.
continuing deference to Israel, specifically
Netanyahu, in contrast to his narcissistic
personality.
I keep finding that notions about reality
obvious in one contextuality context (aka
mind) are hardly necessarily obvious in
another.
Do narcissistic personalities bother you?
Other obvious recent achievements
include massive increase in demand for oil
creating massive increase in prices and profits
for oil companies.
Do they have to raise the prices? Which gun is
being held to whose head in that price-raising
scenario?
Looks like greed to me. How about we focus on
fixing the root cause instead of applying useless
bandages and/or pig lipstick?
Recently, the Pentagon said the cost of
supporting Israel in Iran was 18 billion,
Democrats claim 630 billion, and the Harvard
academic who accurately predicted the cost of
the Iraq war, estimates 1 trillion.
Separate conceptuality contexts steered
by separate notions of individuality
conceptualizing about an alleged
reality in different ways.
Surprise, surprise!
The profit mark ups on Tomahawk missiles are
not disclosed though profits for munitions and
armed forces supply companies must have also
rocketed. With regard to future achievements,
he hasn't yet claimed that Greenland and Canada
are refining uranium.
Why are you obsessed with Trump? I hardly think
about him. But when I do there's no increase in
pulse rate, no shallowness of breath, no shake
a fist at the sky, scream, etc. But, my gosh,
those of you so utterly pwned by him!
"Obama admits political demands caused 'genuine tension' in marriage"
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/05/04/barack-obama- marriage-michelle-obama-donald-trump-presidency/89935266007/
Trump is living rent-free in Obama's brain.
Lynn
Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
On Sat, 9 May 2026 07:27:48 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:
Are you doing the UK thing of setting out special protections for
hunting ...
Not sure what the point of hunting is, actually. To call it a rCLsportrCY, the quarry would have to have a rCLsporting chancerCY of not only getting away, but of killing the hunter as well. Now *that* would add interest
to the game, donrCOt you think?
ObSF: the Bandersnatch on Jinx, from Larry Niven.
found Mr. Bumbling Idiot "sharp as a tack" fit for the Oval Office
when that stupid fuck wasn't even bright enough to finish a
sentence.
And another TDS sufferer bites the dust.
On 5/9/26 19:43, Lynn McGuire wrote:
Trump is living rent-free in Obama's brain.
But Trump has Obama, Biden, Comey, and hordes of
others whom he percieved as his enemies living
in his head. No wonder he is so confused.
On Fri, 8 May 2026 11:37:22 -0000 (UTC), oldernow wrote:
found Mr. Bumbling Idiot "sharp as a tack"
fit for the Oval Office when that stupid fuck
wasn't even bright enough to finish a sentence.
HererCOs a word I learned the other week:
rCLanacoluthonrCY. ItrCOs when you start one
sentence, only to finish a different one. It
can be considered a rhetorical device, but
I suspect in the case of the person yourCOre
talking about, itrCOs more of an inability to
maintain focus from the beginning of a coherent
thought to its end.
Hunting with dogs is banned in the UK; even ratting with a terrier
is illegal.
AFAIAA we don't have elk in the highlands of Scotland,
not even a moose or two or a caribou. I think the stalking quarry
are usually red deer.
For many rural working class Americans, its an economic way to put
meat on the table, mainly deer.
Our hunting culture isn't the same as yours.
On 5/9/2026 7:48 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 9 May 2026 07:27:48 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:
Are you doing the UK thing of setting out special protections for
hunting ...
Not sure what the point of hunting is, actually. To call it a rCLsportrCY, >> the quarry would have to have a rCLsporting chancerCY of not only getting
away, but of killing the hunter as well. Now *that* would add interest
to the game, donrCOt you think?
As far as hunting for food is concerned, thatrCOs inefficient,
expensive, and contaminates the environment (and the food yourCOre
trying to catch) with toxic metals.
In Britain and I suspect, New Zealand, hunting is a sport of the
elite; riding to hounds, or stalking elk in the Highlands.
For many rural working class Americans, its an economic way to put
meat on the table, mainly deer.
Our hunting culture isn't the same as yours.
On Sat, 9 May 2026 07:27:48 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:In the past, of course, it /was/ a sport. And a fair one, at least for
Are you doing the UK thing of setting out special protections for
hunting ...
Not sure what the point of hunting is, actually. To call it a osporto,
the quarry would have to have a osporting chanceo of not only getting
away, but of killing the hunter as well. Now *that* would add interest
to the game, donAt you think?
As far as hunting for food is concerned, thatAs inefficient,Not if the hunters use flint-tipped arrows.
expensive, and contaminates the environment (and the food youAre
trying to catch) with toxic metals.
[*] There's a Bogart film[**] that starts with a scene where theyClose, but no cigar.
hunt and kill an elephant.
[**] _The African Queen_
On Sat, 9 May 2026 10:32:02 -0400, Cryptoengineer wrote:There you go again -- trying to pretend that the USA is civilized.
The shooting was in early 1996, and the gun ban was instituted the
same year. Yet, murder rates didn't drop until 2003.
In the decade before Port Arthur, they were having about one mass
shooting (5 or more killed, I recall the definition was) per year.
In the decade after, they had ... none.
Think of how often you have mass shootings in the USA -- practically
one a week. On a per-capita basis, NZ should be having about one a
year. We donAt.
School shootings are so frequent, your school students have to undergo >regular drills to try to survive them. Parent have to worry about
getting bullet-proof backpacks to try to help their kids stay alive
through their school years. The number-one cause of death among
children in the USA now is bullet wounds. No civilized country on
Earth considers this sort of thing normal.
The last (only) school shooting IAm aware of in NZ happened about a--
century ago.
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:Ah, yes, the long-awaited Abomination of Desolation, no doubt.
And another TDS sufferer bites the dust.
Wrfhf shpxvat Puevfg, Lynn, don't you know that TDS refers to the >inexplicable derangement syndrome evinced by suckers who
pathologically believe, follow or support Donald? Most recent
exhibition is the gaggle of sufferers of that syndrome who celebratd
the erection of the new golden idol in Florida.
YADATROT: Twenty years ago, the report of the celebration and glowing--
encomia surrounding that idol would have been seen as social-science
fiction.
Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:[...]
Not sure what the point of hunting is, actually. To call it a "sport",
the quarry would have to have a "sporting chance" of not only getting
away, but of killing the hunter as well. Now *that* would add interest
to the game, don't you think?
ObSF: the Bandersnatch on Jinx, from Larry Niven.
I haven't met that before.
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
And another TDS sufferer bites the dust.
Wrfhf shpxvat Puevfg, Lynn, don't you know that TDS refers to the inexplicable derangement syndrome evinced by suckers who
pathologically believe, follow or support Donald? Most recent
exhibition is the gaggle of sufferers of that syndrome who celebratd
the erection of the new golden idol in Florida.
YADATROT: Twenty years ago, the report of the celebration and glowing
encomia surrounding that idol would have been seen as social-science
fiction.
On 5/10/2026 2:00 AM, Mike Spencer wrote:
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
And another TDS sufferer bites the dust.
Wrfhf shpxvat Puevfg, Lynn, don't you know that TDS refers to the
inexplicable derangement syndrome evinced by suckers who
pathologically believe, follow or support Donald? Most recent
exhibition is the gaggle of sufferers of that syndrome who celebratd
the erection of the new golden idol in Florida.
YADATROT: Twenty years ago, the report of the celebration and glowing
encomia surrounding that idol would have been seen as social-science
fiction.
Then you need to go edit the TDS entry in Wikipedia to reflect that new philosophy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_derangement_syndrome
A local radio news station has been playing commercials at night
for a texas based big-game hunter club. Personally, I don't see
any legitimate reason to hunt elephants for either food or sport[*];
Sn!pe wrote:
Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:[...]
Not sure what the point of hunting is, actually. To call it a "sport", >>>> the quarry would have to have a "sporting chance" of not only getting
away, but of killing the hunter as well. Now *that* would add interest >>>> to the game, don't you think?
ObSF: the Bandersnatch on Jinx, from Larry Niven.
I haven't met that before.
This is from Larry Niven's early "Known Space" stories.-a Presumably the discoverer of this creature was familiar with Carrol's work.
The Bandersnatch are large and intelligent.-a They are prepared to be
hunted as long as they are paid, as they have few other ways of making money.
I reread these stories a couple of decades ago and they stood up well
for me, inventive, sometimes funny (... he broke my arm and a day later
it still hurt"), full of wonder.
They exist in a variety of collections, and were written in the late 60s
to early 70s.
William Hydebliss
Sn!pe wrote:
Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:[...]
Not sure what the point of hunting is, actually. To call it a "sport", >>>> the quarry would have to have a "sporting chance" of not only getting
away, but of killing the hunter as well. Now *that* would add interest >>>> to the game, don't you think?
ObSF: the Bandersnatch on Jinx, from Larry Niven.
I haven't met that before.
This is from Larry Niven's early "Known Space" stories.-a Presumably the discoverer of this creature was familiar with Carrol's work.
The Bandersnatch are large and intelligent.-a They are prepared to be
hunted as long as they are paid, as they have few other ways of making money.
I reread these stories a couple of decades ago and they stood up well
for me, inventive, sometimes funny (... he broke my arm and a day later
it still hurt"), full of wonder.
They exist in a variety of collections, and were written in the late 60s
to early 70s.
William Hyde
Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 8 May 2026 10:55:15 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:
Taking away firearms isn't going to happen in the US but doing it in
the UK was pretty impressive.
Worked in Australia, too, after Port Arthur. And here in NZ we are
trying to follow the Australian example after our own nasty mass
shooting.
Are you doing the UK thing of setting out special protections for hunting
or the New York thing of treating handguns and long guns as different
items?
--scott
snipOn Sat, 9 May 2026 07:27:48 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:
Are you doing the UK thing of setting out special protections for
hunting ...
In Britain and I suspect, New Zealand, hunting is a sport of the
elite; riding to hounds, or stalking elk in the Highlands.
On 09/05/2026 23:27, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 8 May 2026 10:55:15 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:
Taking away firearms isn't going to happen in the US but doing it in
the UK was pretty impressive.
Worked in Australia, too, after Port Arthur. And here in NZ we are
trying to follow the Australian example after our own nasty mass
shooting.
Are you doing the UK thing of setting out special protections for hunting
or the New York thing of treating handguns and long guns as different
items?
--scott
Don't quote me. I understand that the NZ position is very different to
that of the US. Handguns have never been legal except for pistol clubs
and the rules and restrictions are onerous for their use. Police now
have them but until recently we had Armed Offenders Squads in major
cities, police with weapons training who would jump into helicopters to travel to disturbances. Now, Police carry them locked in safes in the
boot of their cars.
The government purchased automatic weapons declared illegal back from
owners. All owners of long guns such as rifles and shotguns must be registered and their weapons kept in locked safes when not in use.
The Bandersnatch are large and intelligent.
Barron Trump has been able to vote for over two years as he just turned
20. We are able to vote at age 18 in the USA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barron_Trump
Lynn
Trump's claims about fentanyl coming from Canada are a simple lie. The >cited amount is the total seized by the Northern Border force, with
Trump and his stooges claiming that all such seizures come from Canada.
But this is utterly false. The largest single seizure, made in Spokane,
has been traced back as far as Arizona. Only a tiny fraction of the
total claimed is believed to have come from Canada.
It's a good lie because simpletons look at that word "Border" and assume
the force is actually at the border. In fact they operate in about a
third of the country.
It's also worth noting that a fentanyl pill sells for about ten times
more in Vancouver than it does in Washington. There's simply no
incentive to ship it south.
William Hyde
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On 2026-05-07, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
Barring tearing up the Constitution how do you get Trump in 2028?
Should any GOP supporter actually WANT
that? Donald Trump was born in June 1946 and
thus would be 82 years old at the end of the
present term. Even were it constitutionally
possible, would you really want an 86 year
old in the White House? At what point does his
health become a factor?
That was an irrelevant question to TDS'ers
when Biden was sounding 100 at 70....
There are of course more ways to kill people than firearms ...
But firearms are the main source of the problem.
Which problem are you talking about ? Homicides or suicides ?
Take away firearms, never gonna happen, and almost the same number of >homicides will occur with knives.
He was not left wing except in the same sense
as Abraham Lincoln nor a socialist Democrat
but he followed Trump's deal with the Taliban
which won him no good publicity.
Given your assessment of Joe and other matters,
you regularly demonstrate being basically the
Joe Biden of this newsgroup.
On Fri, 8 May 2026 11:46:01 -0000 (UTC), oldernow <oldernow@dev.null>
wrote:
He was not left wing except in the same sense
as Abraham Lincoln nor a socialist Democrat
but he followed Trump's deal with the Taliban
which won him no good publicity.
Given your assessment of Joe and other matters,
you regularly demonstrate being basically the
Joe Biden of this newsgroup.
Wow - that's REALLY mean!
On Thu, 7 May 2026 16:42:54 -0400, William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com>
wrote:
Trump's claims about fentanyl coming from Canada are a simple lie. The
cited amount is the total seized by the Northern Border force, with
Trump and his stooges claiming that all such seizures come from Canada.
But this is utterly false. The largest single seizure, made in Spokane,
has been traced back as far as Arizona. Only a tiny fraction of the
total claimed is believed to have come from Canada.
It's a good lie because simpletons look at that word "Border" and assume
the force is actually at the border. In fact they operate in about a
third of the country.
It's also worth noting that a fentanyl pill sells for about ten times
more in Vancouver than it does in Washington. There's simply no
incentive to ship it south.
William Hyde
There's no question SOME fentanyl enters the US from Canada
was saying is that far more goes the other way.
for the "outlaw motorcycle gangs" that dominate the drug trade on both
sides of the border.
I certainly knew that "Border + Immigration" operates far more than
just at the border - the ONLY part of that that's true is Customs and
in most cases that only affects businesses.
But yeah - that comment from Trump about the cross border drug trade
being primarily N -> S from Canada REALLY burns me since it simply
isn't true.
you include the chemicals needed to make fentanyl - 95+% of which
originate in China - it's about 10-1 US into Canada compared to Canada
US.)
IIRC, 100 miles inland. Hence, yes, Spokane. And, probably, Milwaukee.
I would think that "border" includes the various seacoasts, not just
the dry parts.
As an unfortunate Brit tourista found out while jogging in the woods a
few years back, the Canadian/USA border is not even /marked/ in
places. Never mind having a wall. It took her friends, relatives, and >government several months to retrieve her from wherever the USA Border
guys put her.
Viewing yourself as rCLgood guysrC? through very selective vision.
I wonder if as many Uighurs suffered as Native Americans over the
centuries of US expansionism ...
That's a heck of a lot of verbiage to say "most
people are what I consider morons".
But I totally understand the attraction to
practicing typing!
Apparently "what seems obvious about the word
visually is it implying" doesn't mean to you
what it means to me, which was a reference
to the first seven letters of the word
'conservativism' being 'conserv'.
Oh well! Different minds, different meanings!
On Fri, 8 May 2026 01:36:26 -0000 (UTC), oldernow <oldernow@dev.null>
wrote:
On 2026-05-07, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
Barring tearing up the Constitution how do
you get Trump in 2028?
Should any GOP supporter actually WANT
that? Donald Trump was born in June 1946 and
thus would be 82 years old at the end of the
present term. Even were it constitutionally
possible, would you really want an 86 year
old in the White House? At what point does
his health become a factor?
That was an irrelevant question to TDS'ers
when Biden was sounding 100 at 70....
I watched both Trump-Biden debates in 2024 as
well as Trump-Harris and my personal opinion
is that Harris was worse in her debate than
Biden was in the second debate (which was the
one where he sounded deep in dementia). I don't
know who prepped her for the debate but they did
a terrible terrible job preparing her for it.
On Fri, 8 May 2026 11:46:01 -0000 (UTC), oldernow <oldernow@dev.null>
wrote:
He was not left wing except in the same sense
as Abraham Lincoln nor a socialist Democrat
but he followed Trump's deal with the Taliban
which won him no good publicity.
Given your assessment of Joe and other matters,
you regularly demonstrate being basically the
Joe Biden of this newsgroup.
Wow - that's REALLY mean!
On Sat, 9 May 2026 19:40:58 -0000 (UTC), oldernow <oldernow@dev.null>
wrote:
That's a heck of a lot of verbiage to say "most
people are what I consider morons".
But I totally understand the attraction to
practicing typing!
Yes it is - but the critical reason for the
current war there is that the Israelis are not
prepared to have Iranian nukes (a) because
they don't want to go to war with Iran and
feel Iranian nukes make that inevitable and
(b) a significant number of Iranian nukes means
pretty much every oil state that could afford
nukes would attempt to build as many as possible
and that would make the Middle East a FAR more
dangerous place than now.
Imagine if the Shah of Iran had had nukes
during the revolution of 1979-80 - with the
high likelihood that Khomeini gets them intact.
Then imagine how that scenario would have played
out over the last 40-45 years.
Like what you envision? I thought not.
On Sun, 10 May 2026 04:04:47 -0000 (UTC), oldernow <oldernow@dev.null>
wrote:
Apparently "what seems obvious about the word
visually is it implying" doesn't mean to you
what it means to me, which was a reference
to the first seven letters of the word
'conservativism' being 'conserv'.
Oh well! Different minds, different meanings!
Not to mention that what most Conservatives
want to conserve are values (including things
like 'living within your means' which Trump
seems against)
On Fri, 08 May 2026 08:05:46 -0700, Paul S Person ><psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:Interesting information, to be sure.
IIRC, 100 miles inland. Hence, yes, Spokane. And, probably, Milwaukee.A lot of the northern US cities were based both on rivers and railway >crossing points, most of which were built from 1865-1900. Spokane is
I would think that "border" includes the various seacoasts, not just
the dry parts.
As an unfortunate Brit tourista found out while jogging in the woods a
few years back, the Canadian/USA border is not even /marked/ in
places. Never mind having a wall. It took her friends, relatives, and >>government several months to retrieve her from wherever the USA Border
guys put her.
about 230 miles from Seattle (more or less straight east). Given the
terrain in that area (my aunt lives about 30 miles N of the Canada-US
border N of Spokane -) it would not surprise me that much of that
border is not marked in places though it certainly is along all roads
and highways. (Google is dead wrong in saying it is 2588 km from
Nelson to the US border since it also says Nelson is 479 miles from
Spokane which is also wrong as it says in the next sentence it's 149.6
miles by highway. 479 miles S from Nelson would be close to the WA/OR
state borders...)
Bottom line is that there are several mountain ranges between
Vancouver and the BC / AB border and several of the small towns were >originally built to accomodate the railways. Most of the signs along
that part of the Canada-US border are on the roads which cross the
border - and most of the off-road routes are fairly challenging hikes
for hikers.
I can't imagine that anyone but an extremely experienced hiker would
want to cross that border over 90% of it (e.g. anywhere more than 2 or
3 miles from a roadway)
The Horny Goat wrote:
On Thu, 7 May 2026 16:42:54 -0400, William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com>
wrote:
Trump's claims about fentanyl coming from Canada are a simple lie. The
cited amount is the total seized by the Northern Border force, with
Trump and his stooges claiming that all such seizures come from Canada.
But this is utterly false. The largest single seizure, made in Spokane, >>> has been traced back as far as Arizona. Only a tiny fraction of the
total claimed is believed to have come from Canada.
It's a good lie because simpletons look at that word "Border" and assume >>> the force is actually at the border. In fact they operate in about a
third of the country.
It's also worth noting that a fentanyl pill sells for about ten times
more in Vancouver than it does in Washington. There's simply no
incentive to ship it south.
William Hyde
There's no question SOME fentanyl enters the US from Canada
The last year for which court figures are available gives it as about a >pound. Completely negligible.
- what I
was saying is that far more goes the other way.
Don't say anything that gives the slightest cover to these liars.
It's a big businessYes, it is /so/ hard not be fair and balanced when you are not MAGA.
for the "outlaw motorcycle gangs" that dominate the drug trade on both
sides of the border.
I certainly knew that "Border + Immigration" operates far more than
just at the border - the ONLY part of that that's true is Customs and
in most cases that only affects businesses.
But yeah - that comment from Trump about the cross border drug trade
being primarily N -> S from Canada REALLY burns me since it simply
isn't true.
Millions of maga types believe it because Trump said it. I wonder if
Lynn does?
(It may or may not be true for finished fentanyl but if
you include the chemicals needed to make fentanyl - 95+% of which
originate in China - it's about 10-1 US into Canada compared to Canada
US.)
And now you're giving them cover again.
On Sat, 9 May 2026 07:19:09 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|OliveiroFrom our perspective, perhaps.
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Viewing yourself as rCLgood guysrC? through very selective vision.
I wonder if as many Uighurs suffered as Native Americans over the
centuries of US expansionism ...
Estimates vary widely but for Native Americans (by which I assume you
also include those in what is now Canada) the estimates are from 3.8 -
20 million.
Thus making it VERY difficult to judge whether the Native population
has risen or fallen since contact (5.8m in the US, 1.8m in Canada), as >opposed to the equally fuzzy stats for Uighurs (roughly 8m according
to Britannica - which doesn't make it clear whether that's just China
- where about 90-95% of them live or in the adjoining ex-Soviet
republics as well)
One thing making things VERY complex in British Columbia where I live
is that there are several tribes claiming to have lived in the same
area - especially within 100 miles of Vancouver which has the highest >property values as well as the best harbor N of San Francisco. (And
much closer to China and Japan than San Fran as a simple look at a
globe would show you)
Naturally each tribe wants a separate payoff for their claims even
when - especially when - they overlap. Now whether you believe
aboriginal peoples have the right to redress for "lost lands" or not
is one thing but few people support payment for the same land multiple
times over.
My personal opinion is that the government should tell them to get
together and figure out who is going to claim what and tell them in
advance that if any further claims come forward henceforth ALL of them
will be disallowed and paid at zero cents on the dollar. Because
overlapping land claims is simply fraud.
On Sat, 9 May 2026 19:40:58 -0000 (UTC), oldernow <oldernow@dev.null>Oh, I don't know about that:
wrote:
That's a heck of a lot of verbiage to say "most
people are what I consider morons".
But I totally understand the attraction to
practicing typing!
Yes it is - but the critical reason for the current war there is that
the Israelis are not prepared to have Iranian nukes (a) because they
don't want to go to war with Iran and feel Iranian nukes make that
inevitable and (b) a significant number of Iranian nukes means pretty
much every oil state that could afford nukes would attempt to build as
many as possible and that would make the Middle East a FAR more
dangerous place than now.
Imagine if the Shah of Iran had had nukes during the revolution of
1979-80 - with the high likelihood that Khomeini gets them intact.
Then imagine how that scenario would have played out over the last
40-45 years.
Like what you envision? I thought not.
Yes, it is /so/ hard not be fair and balanced
when you are not MAGA.
OK, that didn't come out quite as intended. I am
not stating or implying that MAGA is fair and
balanced, but that many of those not in MAGA
feel a need to be and so have trouble leaving
no loopholes for MAGA to crawl through as they
go back under the rock they came out from under.
On Sun, 10 May 2026 04:04:47 -0000 (UTC), oldernow <oldernow@dev.null>
wrote:
Apparently "what seems obvious about the word
visually is it implying" doesn't mean to you
what it means to me, which was a reference
to the first seven letters of the word
'conservativism' being 'conserv'.
Oh well! Different minds, different meanings!
Not to mention that what most Conservatives want to conserve are
values (including things like 'living within your means' which Trump
seems against)
On Thu, 14 May 2026 15:19:02 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:
On Fri, 08 May 2026 08:05:46 -0700, Paul S Person
<psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
IIRC, 100 miles inland. Hence, yes, Spokane. And, probably, Milwaukee.A lot of the northern US cities were based both on rivers and railway
I would think that "border" includes the various seacoasts, not just
the dry parts.
As an unfortunate Brit tourista found out while jogging in the woods a
few years back, the Canadian/USA border is not even /marked/ in
places. Never mind having a wall. It took her friends, relatives, and
government several months to retrieve her from wherever the USA Border
guys put her.
crossing points, most of which were built from 1865-1900. Spokane is
about 230 miles from Seattle (more or less straight east). Given the
terrain in that area (my aunt lives about 30 miles N of the Canada-US
border N of Spokane -) it would not surprise me that much of that
border is not marked in places though it certainly is along all roads
and highways. (Google is dead wrong in saying it is 2588 km from
Nelson to the US border since it also says Nelson is 479 miles from
Spokane which is also wrong as it says in the next sentence it's 149.6
miles by highway. 479 miles S from Nelson would be close to the WA/OR
state borders...)
Bottom line is that there are several mountain ranges between
Vancouver and the BC / AB border and several of the small towns were
originally built to accomodate the railways. Most of the signs along
that part of the Canada-US border are on the roads which cross the
border - and most of the off-road routes are fairly challenging hikes
for hikers.
I can't imagine that anyone but an extremely experienced hiker would
want to cross that border over 90% of it (e.g. anywhere more than 2 or
3 miles from a roadway)
Interesting information, to be sure.
IIRC, she was a tourist in Canada who went out for a jog and stepped
in the USA unawares. Any hotels/motels close to the border with
jogging paths nearby?
On Thu, 14 May 2026 15:39:40 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:
Imagine if the Shah of Iran had had nukes during the revolution of
1979-80 - with the high likelihood that Khomeini gets them intact.
Then imagine how that scenario would have played out over the last
40-45 years.
Like what you envision? I thought not.
Oh, I don't know about that:
1. Iraq/Saddam would be gone early in the Iraq-Iran war.
There's also Derby Line, vt, where a small town straddles the border
- the line runs right through the library. Since 9/11 crossings there
have become much less casual.
Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
There's also Derby Line, vt, where a small town straddles the border
- the line runs right through the library. Since 9/11 crossings there
have become much less casual.
For years I bought frequency-determining crystals from a company called
QMX Crystals. Their factory had a yellow line going down the center, and half was in Mexico and half was in the US and various procedures were done
on each side of the border depending on tax costs.
They managed to survive 9-11 but didn't make it to get to the first Trump presidency.
Crystals were another one of those technologies that exploded during WWII
and helped us win the war. There were hundreds of small companies making crystals for the military in the forties... by the time I was interested in radio in the seventies it was down to a couple dozen larger companies.
These days there are really only a couple companies in the world making custom-cut-to-frequency crystals.
--scott
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