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rCLStarship is orbitalrCY

https://www.space.com/space-exploration/launches-spacecraft/spacex-starship-megarocket-flight-14-orbital-launch-success

rCLStarship lifted off from SpaceX's Starbase site in South Texas today at 8:48 a.m. EDT (1248 GMT; 7:48 a.m. local Texas time), kicking off its
14th test flight to date.rCY

rCLFlight 14 is the third Starship launch to feature Version 3 of the
vehicle, a relatively mature iteration that's capable of deploying
satellites and reaching the moon and Mars, among other tasks.rCY

rCLEverything went according to plan initially. Super Heavy did what it
was supposed to do, coming back down to Earth for a controlled
splashdown in the Gulf of Mexico about seven minutes after liftoff. It appeared to experience several engine shutdowns during flight, but
nothing serious enough to affect the landing. Meanwhile, Ship continued
on its upward ascent, inserting into low Earth orbit (LEO) about a
half-hour into the flight.rCY

rCLBut SpaceX wasn't content with just getting to LEO. Ship carried 26 of
the company's next-gen Starlink V3 broadband satellites, which it
successfully deployed over a 30-minute stretch starting at about T+34
minutes. These are the first members of a megaconstellation that will eventually consist of about 100,000 satellites, according to Musk. (Ship deployed V3 Starlinks on Flight 13 in July, but they were on a
suborbital trajectory and soon fell back to Earth.)rCY

Excellent, just excellent. It is so nice to see USA Engineers and
Scientists succeed after some extremely hard work.

Lynn

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On 9/28/26 22:40, Lynn McGuire wrote:

rCLStarship is orbitalrCY

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These are the first members of a megaconstellation that will

eventually consist of about 100,000 satellites, according to Musk.

I wonder if any study has been given to having 100,000 of these birds orbiting. It will definitely mess up all kinds of astronomy. Astronomers complained about the old Soviet Molniya satellites streaking up their pictures. They have/had a very eccentric orbit that went way high over
the northern polar regions and absolutely screamed over the south pole.
With 100k of the Starlinks zipping around, it will be very difficult to
get a clear shot of the night sky at many useful frequencies.

Oh, and Musk is cordially invited to intercourse himself for what he did
to the government e.g. NIH, HHS, DOD.
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On 2026-09-29, BCFD 36 wrote:

On 9/28/26 22:40, Lynn McGuire wrote:

[...]

These are the first members of a megaconstellation that will
eventually consist of about 100,000 satellites, according to Musk.

I wonder if any study has been given to having 100,000 of these birds orbiting. It will definitely mess up all kinds of
astronomy. Astronomers complained about the old Soviet Molniya
satellites streaking up their pictures. They have/had a very eccentric
orbit that went way high over the northern polar regions and
absolutely screamed over the south pole. With 100k of the Starlinks
zipping around, it will be very difficult to get a clear shot of the
night sky at many useful frequencies.

There has been complaining about that regarding Musk and Starlink
already. These plans have been known for months, over a year already,
and have met precisely this criticism.

For example, from Sam Lawer. You'll certainly find some such posts in
[1], and one random example I had in browsing history, [2].

[1] <https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets.rss?limit=100>
[2] <https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/113211409849192497>

(Meanwhile, thanks to the GenAI techbros, I can't even access aas.org,
"Enable JavaScript and cookies to continue"...)

Oh, and Musk is cordially invited to intercourse himself for what he
did to the government e.g. NIH, HHS, DOD.

Is Musk good at anything except destroying companies and communication services? He could probably do a joint venture with Andrew Lee...
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In article <119fqes$32qpq$1@dont-email.me>, BCFD 36 <bcfd36@cruzio.com> wrote: >I wonder if any study has been given to having 100,000 of these birds >orbiting. It will definitely mess up all kinds of astronomy. Astronomers >complained about the old Soviet Molniya satellites streaking up their >pictures. They have/had a very eccentric orbit that went way high over

the northern polar regions and absolutely screamed over the south pole.
With 100k of the Starlinks zipping around, it will be very difficult to
get a clear shot of the night sky at many useful frequencies.

Yes, the first generation Starlinks had serious issues in that regard, and
so a lot of work has been done to reduce reflectivity on the newer
generations. They are still visible and still an annoyance to astronomy
but not to the extent of the earlier ones. So yes, a bunch of studies have been done on both sides or the argument.

Oh, and Musk is cordially invited to intercourse himself for what he did
to the government e.g. NIH, HHS, DOD.

On that point I thoroughly agree but it's also not really relevant to the thread. It is interesting that his guys came into a lot of agencies
totally clueless but assuming they knew everything... however, the ones that came into NASA were just as clueless but pretty quickly realized it. So NASA escaped a lot of the damage.
--scott
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Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> writes:

On 2026-09-29, BCFD 36 wrote:

<snip>

(Meanwhile, thanks to the GenAI techbros, I can't even access aas.org, >"Enable JavaScript and cookies to continue"...)

I can't reach npr.org, for similar reasons.

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On 9/29/2026 5:59 AM, Nuno Silva wrote:
...)

Oh, and Musk is cordially invited to intercourse himself for what he
did to the government e.g. NIH, HHS, DOD.

Is Musk good at anything except destroying companies and communication services? He could probably do a joint venture with Andrew Lee...

The man's a total tool when it comes to public policy, enforced a
face/heel turn on Twitter, but its hard to deny that he kickstarted
EV adoption in the US, that SpaceX has lowered cost-to-orbit manyfold,
and that he started Starlink, which has brought affordable high-speed
internet to places the land-line services refused to touch.

He's not my friend, he's done a *lot* of bad stuff, but saying he's
good for nothing but 'destroying companies' flies in the face of the
facts.


pt
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2026, Cryptoengineer wrote:

... its hard to deny that he kickstarted EV adoption in the US, that
SpaceX has lowered cost-to-orbit manyfold, and that he started Starlink, which has brought affordable high-speed internet to places the land-line services refused to touch.

Even having done one of the above would have resulted in personal
immortality. Hey, PayPal was good enough for me. I use it every day,
decades later. First use was peer to peer via my Palm Pilot.
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Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> writes:

On Tue, 29 Sep 2026, Cryptoengineer wrote:

... its hard to deny that he kickstarted EV adoption in the US, that
SpaceX has lowered cost-to-orbit manyfold, and that he started Starlink,
which has brought affordable high-speed internet to places the land-line
services refused to touch.

Even having done one of the above would have resulted in personal >immortality. Hey, PayPal was good enough for me. I use it every day,
decades later. First use was peer to peer via my Palm Pilot.

Musk had nothing to do with paypal's success. He couldn't make a
run with his fintech X corp, so his buddies at Paypal bought it
(and subsequently shut it down), just at the height of the
dot-com bomb. He used that money to buy the already existing
Tesla (who built the roadster) company.
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2026, Scott Lurndal wrote:

Musk had nothing to do with paypal's success. He couldn't make a
run with his fintech X corp, so his buddies at Paypal bought it
(and subsequently shut it down), just at the height of the
dot-com bomb. He used that money to buy the already existing
Tesla (who built the roadster) company.

It really doesn't matter at the end of the day. There are even battalions
of people who say "Musk didn't invent Tesla" or "Musk didn't found Tesla"
and that doesn't matter. Oftentimes, the dancing fool doing the dog and
pony show wins the immportality and not the people who had the vision or invented anything. It's not about the making of anything successful, it's
only about that thing having become successful at all in the first place
and the making of $180 million when it was sold to eBay in 2002.
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On 9/28/26 22:40, Lynn McGuire wrote:

rCLStarship is orbitalrCY

https://www.space.com/space-exploration/launches-spacecraft/spacex- starship-megarocket-flight-14-orbital-launch-success

rCLStarship lifted off from SpaceX's Starbase site in South Texas today at 8:48 a.m. EDT (1248 GMT; 7:48 a.m. local Texas time), kicking off its
14th test flight to date.rCY

rCLFlight 14 is the third Starship launch to feature Version 3 of the vehicle, a relatively mature iteration that's capable of deploying satellites and reaching the moon and Mars, among other tasks.rCY

rCLEverything went according to plan initially. Super Heavy did what it
was supposed to do, coming back down to Earth for a controlled
splashdown in the Gulf of Mexico about seven minutes after liftoff. It appeared to experience several engine shutdowns during flight, but
nothing serious enough to affect the landing. Meanwhile, Ship continued
on its upward ascent, inserting into low Earth orbit (LEO) about a half- hour into the flight.rCY

rCLBut SpaceX wasn't content with just getting to LEO. Ship carried 26 of the company's next-gen Starlink V3 broadband satellites, which it successfully deployed over a 30-minute stretch starting at about T+34 minutes. These are the first members of a megaconstellation that will eventually consist of about 100,000 satellites, according to Musk. (Ship deployed V3 Starlinks on Flight 13 in July, but they were on a
suborbital trajectory and soon fell back to Earth.)rCY

Excellent, just excellent.-a It is so nice to see USA Engineers and Scientists succeed after some extremely hard work.

Lynn

Well you have to have that mega-constellation to obscure astronomical observations and to enforce the dictates of the Tech
overlords. Musk is rather careless with his materials and the
returning Ship blew up it seems. Explosive disassembly once more.

Musk is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths
in needy places when DOGE took down the USAID. They might have
grown up to be consumers. Unlikely though to be Mars Colonists.

bliss
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