• Four Stories Featuring Time TravelrCa of a Sort

    From jdnicoll@jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) to rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Sep 16 14:12:56 2026
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    Four Stories Featuring Time TravelrCa of a Sort

    It seems that you've been mysteriously transported through time... now what?

    https://reactormag.com/four-stories-featuring-time-travel-of-a-sort/
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Sep 16 11:30:04 2026
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    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    Four Stories Featuring Time TravelrCa of a Sort

    It seems that you've been mysteriously transported through time... now what?

    I get a patent on my mysterious process and then license it to Grateful
    Dead fans?
    --scott
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  • From BobbieSellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Sep 16 10:12:18 2026
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    On 9/16/26 08:30, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    Four Stories Featuring Time TravelrCa of a Sort

    It seems that you've been mysteriously transported through time... now what?

    I get a patent on my mysterious process and then license it to Grateful
    Dead fans?
    --scott


    Don't do that! The 1960s are already too crowded.
    I was there and that is my clear impression.

    If I was to go back and meet myself I would likely cause
    a time loop and then I would never go anywhere at all.

    bliss
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  • From scott@scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) to rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Sep 16 17:31:41 2026
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    kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    Four Stories Featuring Time TravelrCa of a Sort

    It seems that you've been mysteriously transported through time... now what?

    I get a patent on my mysterious process and then license it to Grateful
    Dead fans?

    Or anyone who yearns to hear Pink Floyd at Winterland in 1972.
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Sep 16 18:06:04 2026
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    On 9/16/2026 10:12 AM, BobbieSellers wrote:
    On 9/16/26 08:30, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    Four Stories Featuring Time TravelrCa of a Sort

    It seems that you've been mysteriously transported through time...
    now what?

    I get a patent on my mysterious process and then license it to Grateful
    Dead fans?
    --scott


    -a-a-a-aDon't do that! The 1960s are already too crowded.
    -a-a-a-aI was there and that is my clear impression.

    -a-a-a-aIf I was to go back and meet myself I would likely cause
    a time loop and then I would never go anywhere at all.

    But if you never went anywhere at all how could you have gone back to
    meet yourself to cause you to never go anywhere at all!?
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    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Sep 16 21:15:58 2026
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    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 9/16/2026 10:12 AM, BobbieSellers wrote:
    On 9/16/26 08:30, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    Four Stories Featuring Time TravelrCa of a Sort

    It seems that you've been mysteriously transported through time...
    now what?

    I get a patent on my mysterious process and then license it to Grateful
    Dead fans?
    --scott


    -a-a-a-aDon't do that! The 1960s are already too crowded.
    -a-a-a-aI was there and that is my clear impression.

    -a-a-a-aIf I was to go back and meet myself I would likely cause
    a time loop and then I would never go anywhere at all.

    But if you never went anywhere at all how could you have gone back to
    meet yourself to cause you to never go anywhere at all!?

    STACK LIMIT EXCEEDED: REMAINDER OF JOB FLUSHED
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  • From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written,alt.fan.heinlein on Wed Sep 16 20:45:07 2026
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    On 9/16/2026 9:12 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    Four Stories Featuring Time TravelrCa of a Sort

    It seems that you've been mysteriously transported through time... now what?

    https://reactormag.com/four-stories-featuring-time-travel-of-a-sort/

    Zero for four.

    Of course, there is Heinlein's time travel story, "All You Zombies".
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27%E2%80%94All_You_Zombies%E2%80%94%27

    And his stories "The Door Into Summer" and
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Door_into_Summer
    "By His Bootstraps" (which I do not recall ever reading).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_His_Bootstraps

    Lynn

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  • From BobbieSellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Sep 16 20:48:21 2026
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    On 9/16/26 18:06, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 9/16/2026 10:12 AM, BobbieSellers wrote:
    On 9/16/26 08:30, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    Four Stories Featuring Time TravelrCa of a Sort

    It seems that you've been mysteriously transported through time...
    now what?

    I get a patent on my mysterious process and then license it to Grateful
    Dead fans?
    --scott


    -a-a-a-a-aDon't do that! The 1960s are already too crowded.
    -a-a-a-a-aI was there and that is my clear impression.

    -a-a-a-a-aIf I was to go back and meet myself I would likely cause
    a time loop and then I would never go anywhere at all.

    But if you never went anywhere at all how could you have gone back to
    meet yourself to cause you to never go anywhere at all!?


    Time loop. Or would create an alternate Universe in which I
    ignored your pernicious invention along with the one i started out in
    from which I sent assassins to your laboratory much earlier on.

    I lived on Clayton above Haight in the Apartment previously
    occupied by the notorious Chuckie Manson as one point before I moved
    closer to the Union Square area. I actually danced on Haight Street
    to the Grateful Dead playing from the back of a flatbed and later
    attended a couple of concerts in other venues by that group.
    I was in my 30s then, too old to be a hippy, too young to be a beatnik.
    Also I was working for a living.

    Zap! Pow! Wham!

    Or I become Marge Hoople, everyone's favorite comedienne but
    secret inanity fighter by night.

    bliss
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  • From ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan@tednolan to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Sep 17 05:17:33 2026
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    In article <118ff0e$rsh$1@panix2.panix.com>,
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 9/16/2026 10:12 AM, BobbieSellers wrote:
    On 9/16/26 08:30, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    Four Stories Featuring Time TravelrCa of a Sort

    It seems that you've been mysteriously transported through time...
    now what?

    I get a patent on my mysterious process and then license it to Grateful >>>> Dead fans?
    --scott


    -a-a-a-aDon't do that! The 1960s are already too crowded.
    -a-a-a-aI was there and that is my clear impression.

    -a-a-a-aIf I was to go back and meet myself I would likely cause
    a time loop and then I would never go anywhere at all.

    But if you never went anywhere at all how could you have gone back to
    meet yourself to cause you to never go anywhere at all!?

    STACK LIMIT EXCEEDED: REMAINDER OF JOB FLUSHED


    "We do not care to risk it," he said. "We prefer to see to
    it that all 'past' events, as recorded in the annals of
    history as compiled prior to the era of time-travel, go
    untouched. For the past fifty years of now-time the entire
    previous span of history, thought to be fixed, has been
    potentially fluid; yet we struggle to keep it fixed. Thus
    we employ the Time Patrol to make certain that everything
    will happen in the past exactly as it did happen, no matter
    how unfortunate an event it might be. Disasters, assassinations,
    tragedies of all kinds must occur on schedule, for otherwise
    the future--our now-time--may be irreparably changed."

    Miss Chambers said, "But isn't the very fact of our presence
    in the past a changing of the past?"

    "I was about to reach that point," said Dajani, displeased.
    "If we assume that the past and present form a single
    continuum, then obviously visitors from the twenty-first
    century were present at all the great events of the past,
    unobtrusively enough so that no mention of them found its
    way into the annals of the fixed-time era. So we take great
    care to camouflage everyone who goes up the line in the
    costume of the time being visited. One must watch the past
    without meddling, as a silent bystander, as inconspicuous
    as possible. This is a rule that the Time Patrol enforces
    with absolute inflexibility. I will discuss the nature of
    that enforcement shortly.

    "I spoke the other day of cumulative audience paradox. This
    is a severe philosophical problem which has not yet been
    resolved, and which I will present to you now purely as a
    theoretical exercise, to give you some insight into the
    complexities of our undertaking. Consider this: the first
    time-traveler to go up the line to view the Crucifixion of
    Jesus was the experimentalist Barney Navarre, in 2012. Over
    the succeeding two decades, another fifteen or twenty
    experimentalists made the same journey. Since the commencement
    of commercial excursions to Golgotha in 2041, approximately
    one tourist group a month--or 100 tourists a year--has
    viewed the scene. Thus about 1800 individuals of the
    twenty-first century, so far, have observed the Crucifixion.
    Now, then: each of these groups is leaving from a different
    month, but every one of them is converging on the same day!
    If tourists continue to go up the line at a rate of 100 a
    year to see the Crucifixion, the crowd at Golgotha will
    consist of at least 10,000 time-travelers by the middle of
    the twenty-second century, and--assuming no increase in the
    permissible tourist trade--by the early thirtieth century,
    some 100,000 time-travelers will have made the trip, all
    of them necessarily congregating simultaneously at the site
    of the Passion. Yet obviously no such crowds are present
    there now, only a few thousand Palestinians--when I say
    'now,' I mean of course the time of the Crucifixion relative
    to now-time 2059--and just as obviously those crowds will
    continue to grow in the centuries of now-time. Taken to its
    ultimate, the cumulative audience paradox yields us the
    picture of an audience of billions of time-travelers piled
    up in the past to witness the Crucifixion, filling all the
    Holy Land and spreading out into Turkey, into Arabia, even
    to India and Iran. Similarly for every other significant
    event in human history: as commercial time-travel progresses,
    it must inevitably smother every event in a horde of
    spectators, yet at the original occurrence of those events,
    no such hordes were present! How is this paradox to be
    resolved?"

    Miss Dalessandro had no suggestions. For once, she was
    stumped. So were the rest of us. So was Dajani. So are the
    finest minds of our era.

    Meanwhile, the past fills up with time-traveling sightseers.

    Dajani tossed one final twister at us before he let us go.
    "I may add," he said, "that I myself, as a Courier, have
    done the Crucifixion run twenty-two times, with twenty-two
    different groups. If you were to attend the Crucifixion
    yourselves tomorrow, you would find twenty-two Najeeb Dajanis
    at the hill of Golgotha simultaneously, each of me occupying
    a different position at the event explaining the happening
    to my clients. Is this multiplication of Dajanis not a
    fascinating thing to consider? Why are there not twenty-two
    Dajanis at loose in now-time? It stretches the intellect
    to revolve such thoughts. Dismissed, dear ladies and
    gentlemen, dismissed."
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    columbiaclosings.com
    What's not in Columbia anymore..
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  • From Don@g@crcomp.net to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Sep 17 18:24:35 2026
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    Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
    kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    Four Stories Featuring Time Travel??? of a Sort

    It seems that you've been mysteriously transported through time... now what? >>
    I get a patent on my mysterious process and then license it to Grateful >>Dead fans?

    Or anyone who yearns to hear Pink Floyd at Winterland in 1972.

    Or anyone who yearns to be a rock star back in the day:

    BOB DYLAN, TROY JONSON, AND THE SPEED QUEEN (excerpt) by F. Paul Wilson

    Dylan walks in and I almost choke.

    I've known all along it had to happen. I mean, it was
    inevitable. But still, finding yourself in the same
    room with a legend will tend to dry up your saliva no
    matter how well prepared you think you are.

    My band's been doing weeknights at the Eighth Wonder
    for two months now, a Tuesday-Wednesday-Thursday gig,
    and I've made sure there's an electrified Dylan song
    in every set every night we play. Reactions have been
    mixed. At worst, hostile; at best, grudging acceptance.
    Electric music is a touchy thing here in Greenwich
    Village in 1964.

    ...

    The band's ready to begin the next number on the set
    list, our Yardbirds-style "I'm a Man," but I turn and
    tell them we're doing "All I Really Want to Do." They
    nod and shrug. As long as they get paid, they don't give
    a damn what they play. They're not in on the plan.

    I strap on the Rickenbacker twelve-string and start
    pickng out Jim McGuinn's opening. I've got this choice
    figured to be a pretty safe one since my wire tells me
    that the Byrds aren't even a group yet.

    Dylan's taken a table at the rear with the skinny
    brunette. He's slouched down. He's got no idea this is
    his song. Then we start to sing and I see him straighten
    up in his chair. When we hit the chorus with the three-
    part harmony, I see him put down his drink. It's not a
    big move. He's trying to be cool. But I'm watching for
    it and I catch it.

    Contact.

    Research told me that he liked the Byrds' version when
    he first heard it, so I know he's got to like our version
    because ours is a carbon copy of the Byrds'. And
    naturally, he hasn't heard theirs yet because they
    haven't recorded it. I'd love to play their version of
    "Mr. Tambourine Man," but he hasn't written it yet.

    ...

    --
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  • From Don@g@crcomp.net to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Sep 17 18:25:14 2026
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    Ted Nolan <tednolan> <ted@loft.tnolan.com> wrote:
    In article <118ff0e$rsh$1@panix2.panix.com>,
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 9/16/2026 10:12 AM, BobbieSellers wrote:
    On 9/16/26 08:30, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    Four Stories Featuring Time Travel??? of a Sort

    It seems that you've been mysteriously transported through time... >>>>>> now what?

    I get a patent on my mysterious process and then license it to Grateful >>>>> Dead fans?
    --scott


    ????????Don't do that! The 1960s are already too crowded.
    ????????I was there and that is my clear impression.

    ????????If I was to go back and meet myself I would likely cause
    a time loop and then I would never go anywhere at all.

    But if you never went anywhere at all how could you have gone back to >>>meet yourself to cause you to never go anywhere at all!?

    STACK LIMIT EXCEEDED: REMAINDER OF JOB FLUSHED


    "We do not care to risk it," he said. "We prefer to see to
    it that all 'past' events, as recorded in the annals of
    history as compiled prior to the era of time-travel, go
    untouched. For the past fifty years of now-time the entire
    previous span of history, thought to be fixed, has been
    potentially fluid; yet we struggle to keep it fixed. Thus
    we employ the Time Patrol to make certain that everything
    will happen in the past exactly as it did happen, no matter
    how unfortunate an event it might be. Disasters, assassinations,
    tragedies of all kinds must occur on schedule, for otherwise
    the future--our now-time--may be irreparably changed."

    Miss Chambers said, "But isn't the very fact of our presence
    in the past a changing of the past?"

    "I was about to reach that point," said Dajani, displeased.
    "If we assume that the past and present form a single
    continuum, then obviously visitors from the twenty-first
    century were present at all the great events of the past,
    unobtrusively enough so that no mention of them found its
    way into the annals of the fixed-time era. So we take great
    care to camouflage everyone who goes up the line in the
    costume of the time being visited. One must watch the past
    without meddling, as a silent bystander, as inconspicuous
    as possible. This is a rule that the Time Patrol enforces
    with absolute inflexibility. I will discuss the nature of
    that enforcement shortly.

    "I spoke the other day of cumulative audience paradox. This
    is a severe philosophical problem which has not yet been
    resolved, and which I will present to you now purely as a
    theoretical exercise, to give you some insight into the
    complexities of our undertaking. Consider this: the first
    time-traveler to go up the line to view the Crucifixion of
    Jesus was the experimentalist Barney Navarre, in 2012. Over
    the succeeding two decades, another fifteen or twenty
    experimentalists made the same journey. Since the commencement
    of commercial excursions to Golgotha in 2041, approximately
    one tourist group a month--or 100 tourists a year--has
    viewed the scene. Thus about 1800 individuals of the
    twenty-first century, so far, have observed the Crucifixion.
    Now, then: each of these groups is leaving from a different
    month, but every one of them is converging on the same day!
    If tourists continue to go up the line at a rate of 100 a
    year to see the Crucifixion, the crowd at Golgotha will
    consist of at least 10,000 time-travelers by the middle of
    the twenty-second century, and--assuming no increase in the
    permissible tourist trade--by the early thirtieth century,
    some 100,000 time-travelers will have made the trip, all
    of them necessarily congregating simultaneously at the site
    of the Passion. Yet obviously no such crowds are present
    there now, only a few thousand Palestinians--when I say
    'now,' I mean of course the time of the Crucifixion relative
    to now-time 2059--and just as obviously those crowds will
    continue to grow in the centuries of now-time. Taken to its
    ultimate, the cumulative audience paradox yields us the
    picture of an audience of billions of time-travelers piled
    up in the past to witness the Crucifixion, filling all the
    Holy Land and spreading out into Turkey, into Arabia, even
    to India and Iran. Similarly for every other significant
    event in human history: as commercial time-travel progresses,
    it must inevitably smother every event in a horde of
    spectators, yet at the original occurrence of those events,
    no such hordes were present! How is this paradox to be
    resolved?"

    Miss Dalessandro had no suggestions. For once, she was
    stumped. So were the rest of us. So was Dajani. So are the
    finest minds of our era.

    Meanwhile, the past fills up with time-traveling sightseers.

    Dajani tossed one final twister at us before he let us go.
    "I may add," he said, "that I myself, as a Courier, have
    done the Crucifixion run twenty-two times, with twenty-two
    different groups. If you were to attend the Crucifixion
    yourselves tomorrow, you would find twenty-two Najeeb Dajanis
    at the hill of Golgotha simultaneously, each of me occupying
    a different position at the event explaining the happening
    to my clients. Is this multiplication of Dajanis not a
    fascinating thing to consider? Why are there not twenty-two
    Dajanis at loose in now-time? It stretches the intellect
    to revolve such thoughts. Dismissed, dear ladies and
    gentlemen, dismissed."

    The above is an excerpt from UP THE LINE by Silverberg.

    In FAR TRAVELER by Colleen Dripp|- a Jew named Silverstein sends lapsed Catholic Kendall back in time for a come-to-Jesus moment:

    (excerpt)

    "I read everything," Silverstein added. "I know your
    whole history."

    "Hope you found it entertaining," Kendall said dryly.
    His own courtesy was wearing thin as well.

    "You were an altar boy."

    Kendall blinked. That was not what he had expected
    Silverstein to say.

    Once more Hunter tried to smooth things over.
    "Really digging up the dirt on us, aren't you?" he
    quipped. "Going to tell him about how I'm a Kali
    worshipper?"

    "You," Silverstein told him, "have never worshipped
    anything in your life. Your god is your belly."

    Hunter laughed at this. "No fair, Boss," he said.
    "We didn't get to read yours."

    "And," Silverstein said, ignoring his words, "you
    have a prison record. But you're a nice guy. Always
    were a nice guy--as long as no one pushed you too far."

    Hunter stopped smiling. "That's right," he agreed. He
    pushed back his plate. "So Kendall was an altar boy."
    He glanced at the other man as if to say, Humor him.
    It will pass.

    Kendall looked down at his bowl. "That was a long time
    ago," he said. "Before my parents separated."

    "Of course. A broken home." Silverstein lit a cigarette,
    watched as Kendall did the same. Hunter didn't smoke.
    "Your father was a religious fanatic and your mother
    had had enough. You were raised by a stepfather with
    more liberal views."

    Kendall looked away.

    "Catholic and all that," Silverstein said, "but he was
    not the same kind your father was. Take it or leave it,
    that was the way your stepfather felt about religion."
    He gave Kendall a penetrating look. "But your father
    was the real old kind, wasn't he? I'll bet you prayed
    in Latin."

    Kendall's cigarette jittered on the edge of his empty
    cereal bowl. "What's your point, Silverstein?"

    The project head smiled slightly. "It's O.K.," he said.
    "I don't think you're a fanatic now. I'll bet you don't
    even believe in God."

    Do I? Kendall wondered. He hadn't thought about the
    question in years.

    "But maybe you'd like to know," Silverstein mused.
    "Anyone would. Whether it's all true or not. Jesus on
    the cross."

    Hunter gaped at him. "Anyone like more coffee?" he
    asked.

    They both ignored him.

    "Well?" Silverstein persisted. "Wouldn't you?"

    "Look," Kendall grated, "I asked you what you were
    getting at. What does this have to do with the
    project?"

    The other man smiled thinly. "Actually, quite a bit,"
    he said. "We're working for the government, true. And
    the government is pretty pragmatic. Find the secrets,
    bump off the dictators. But don't forget we're also a
    research facility." He shrugged. "I've been asked to
    test the waters further back. To see what we can get."

    Hunter leaned forward. "You know it doesn't work if
    we go back too far. Everything would just fade out."

    "Maybe. But we weren't operating at full power when we
    sent George that time. And he's no heavyweight
    intellect like Kendall here."

    "Why are you riding me, Silverstein? What have I ever
    done--?"

    "I'm offering you an opportunity," Silverstein told
    him. "You can go further than anyone has ever gone.
    And I think you have a much better chance of coming
    out of it with your head on straight than just about
    any man here."

    Kendall looked at him mistrustfully. "You really
    have orders to do this?"

    Silverstein nodded. "The time--and the subject--are at
    my discretion, of course. But yes, that is what they
    want me to do."

    "And you want to send me back. How far? Where?"

    "Why, to the Middle East, of course. A couple thousand
    years."

    Hunter grunted. "Man! He'll never get anything," he
    said. "Five years. Ten, maybe. But that's like diving
    down into the dark. He won't see a thing."

    "He'll try," Silverstein said. "Won't you--Far
    Traveler?"

    Kendall did not look at him. The whole conversation
    had been like an extension of a dream. Was he still
    in his bunk? Or was he a child again, dreaming? He'd
    thought about things like this back then, read
    stories about time travel. But the bitter taste on
    his tongue was not the taste of dreams. The knot in
    his stomach was real.

    "Well, Kendall? Want to take a picture of Jesus?"

    And suddenly he realized that this was of all things
    the very last thing he wanted to do. Let the stories
    lie where they were, back in the dreaming pit of
    legend. Let them bring solace to those who believed,
    but he did not want to risk disproving them.

    ...

    --
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  • From William Hyde@wthyde1953@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Sep 17 15:28:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    Don wrote:
    Ted Nolan <tednolan> <ted@loft.tnolan.com> wrote:
    In article <118ff0e$rsh$1@panix2.panix.com>,
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 9/16/2026 10:12 AM, BobbieSellers wrote:
    On 9/16/26 08:30, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    Four Stories Featuring Time Travel??? of a Sort

    It seems that you've been mysteriously transported through time... >>>>>>> now what?

    I get a patent on my mysterious process and then license it to Grateful >>>>>> Dead fans?
    --scott


    ????????Don't do that! The 1960s are already too crowded.
    ????????I was there and that is my clear impression.

    ????????If I was to go back and meet myself I would likely cause
    a time loop and then I would never go anywhere at all.

    But if you never went anywhere at all how could you have gone back to
    meet yourself to cause you to never go anywhere at all!?

    STACK LIMIT EXCEEDED: REMAINDER OF JOB FLUSHED


    "We do not care to risk it," he said. "We prefer to see to
    it that all 'past' events, as recorded in the annals of
    history as compiled prior to the era of time-travel, go
    untouched. For the past fifty years of now-time the entire
    previous span of history, thought to be fixed, has been
    potentially fluid; yet we struggle to keep it fixed. Thus
    we employ the Time Patrol to make certain that everything
    will happen in the past exactly as it did happen, no matter
    how unfortunate an event it might be. Disasters, assassinations,
    tragedies of all kinds must occur on schedule, for otherwise
    the future--our now-time--may be irreparably changed."

    Miss Chambers said, "But isn't the very fact of our presence
    in the past a changing of the past?"

    "I was about to reach that point," said Dajani, displeased.
    "If we assume that the past and present form a single
    continuum, then obviously visitors from the twenty-first
    century were present at all the great events of the past,
    unobtrusively enough so that no mention of them found its
    way into the annals of the fixed-time era. So we take great
    care to camouflage everyone who goes up the line in the
    costume of the time being visited. One must watch the past
    without meddling, as a silent bystander, as inconspicuous
    as possible. This is a rule that the Time Patrol enforces
    with absolute inflexibility. I will discuss the nature of
    that enforcement shortly.

    "I spoke the other day of cumulative audience paradox. This
    is a severe philosophical problem which has not yet been
    resolved, and which I will present to you now purely as a
    theoretical exercise, to give you some insight into the
    complexities of our undertaking. Consider this: the first
    time-traveler to go up the line to view the Crucifixion of
    Jesus was the experimentalist Barney Navarre, in 2012. Over
    the succeeding two decades, another fifteen or twenty
    experimentalists made the same journey. Since the commencement
    of commercial excursions to Golgotha in 2041, approximately
    one tourist group a month--or 100 tourists a year--has
    viewed the scene. Thus about 1800 individuals of the
    twenty-first century, so far, have observed the Crucifixion.
    Now, then: each of these groups is leaving from a different
    month, but every one of them is converging on the same day!
    If tourists continue to go up the line at a rate of 100 a
    year to see the Crucifixion, the crowd at Golgotha will
    consist of at least 10,000 time-travelers by the middle of
    the twenty-second century, and--assuming no increase in the
    permissible tourist trade--by the early thirtieth century,
    some 100,000 time-travelers will have made the trip, all
    of them necessarily congregating simultaneously at the site
    of the Passion. Yet obviously no such crowds are present
    there now, only a few thousand Palestinians--when I say
    'now,' I mean of course the time of the Crucifixion relative
    to now-time 2059--and just as obviously those crowds will
    continue to grow in the centuries of now-time. Taken to its
    ultimate, the cumulative audience paradox yields us the
    picture of an audience of billions of time-travelers piled
    up in the past to witness the Crucifixion, filling all the
    Holy Land and spreading out into Turkey, into Arabia, even
    to India and Iran. Similarly for every other significant
    event in human history: as commercial time-travel progresses,
    it must inevitably smother every event in a horde of
    spectators, yet at the original occurrence of those events,
    no such hordes were present! How is this paradox to be
    resolved?"

    Miss Dalessandro had no suggestions. For once, she was
    stumped. So were the rest of us. So was Dajani. So are the
    finest minds of our era.

    Meanwhile, the past fills up with time-traveling sightseers.

    Dajani tossed one final twister at us before he let us go.
    "I may add," he said, "that I myself, as a Courier, have
    done the Crucifixion run twenty-two times, with twenty-two
    different groups. If you were to attend the Crucifixion
    yourselves tomorrow, you would find twenty-two Najeeb Dajanis
    at the hill of Golgotha simultaneously, each of me occupying
    a different position at the event explaining the happening
    to my clients. Is this multiplication of Dajanis not a
    fascinating thing to consider? Why are there not twenty-two
    Dajanis at loose in now-time? It stretches the intellect
    to revolve such thoughts. Dismissed, dear ladies and
    gentlemen, dismissed."

    The above is an excerpt from UP THE LINE by Silverberg.

    Beat me to it!

    That'll teach me to dawdle in the afternoon.


    When I was younger this was one of my favourite books. I wonder how it
    would hold up now.

    William Hyde
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  • From William Hyde@wthyde1953@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written,alt.fan.heinlein on Thu Sep 17 15:35:13 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 9/16/2026 9:12 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    Four Stories Featuring Time TravelrCa of a Sort

    It seems that you've been mysteriously transported through time... now
    what?

    https://reactormag.com/four-stories-featuring-time-travel-of-a-sort/

    Zero for four.

    Of course, there is Heinlein's time travel story, "All You Zombies".
    -a-a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27%E2%80%94All_You_Zombies%E2%80%94%27

    And his stories "The Door Into Summer" and
    -a-a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Door_into_Summer
    "By His Bootstraps" (which I do not recall ever reading).
    -a-a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_His_Bootstraps

    At one point in high school I thought I'd read everything by Heinlein.

    But then in the school library I stumbled across one of the very first hardbound (and it was indeed well bound) SF hardbacks - a volume twenty
    years older than the school itself.

    Among many other great stories it contained "By His Bootstraps" which
    was not in any of the various Heinlein collections I had.

    It is impossible to convey how exciting this was. Secondly because it
    was an unknown Heinlein, but mainly because it was a fantastic story.

    Which is a roundabout way of saying, "read it, you'll like it".

    William Hyde

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  • From Tony Nance@tnusenet17@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Sep 17 15:38:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 9/17/26 3:28 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    Don wrote:
    Ted Nolan <tednolan> <ted@loft.tnolan.com> wrote:
    In article <118ff0e$rsh$1@panix2.panix.com>,
    Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler-a <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 9/16/2026 10:12 AM, BobbieSellers wrote:
    On 9/16/26 08:30, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
    Four Stories Featuring Time Travel??? of a Sort

    It seems that you've been mysteriously transported through time... >>>>>>>> now what?

    I get a patent on my mysterious process and then license it to
    Grateful
    Dead fans?
    --scott


    -a ????????Don't do that! The 1960s are already too crowded.
    -a ????????I was there and that is my clear impression.

    -a ????????If I was to go back and meet myself I would likely cause >>>>>> a time loop and then I would never go anywhere at all.

    But if you never went anywhere at all how could you have gone back to >>>>> meet yourself to cause you to never go anywhere at all!?

    STACK LIMIT EXCEEDED:-a REMAINDER OF JOB FLUSHED


    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a "We do not care to risk it," he said. "We prefer to see to >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a it that all 'past' events, as recorded in the annals of >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a history as compiled prior to the era of time-travel, go >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a untouched. For the past fifty years of now-time the entire >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a previous span of history, thought to be fixed, has been >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a potentially fluid; yet we struggle to keep it fixed. Thus >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a we employ the Time Patrol to make certain that everything >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a will happen in the past exactly as it did happen, no matter
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a how unfortunate an event it might be. Disasters,
    assassinations,
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a tragedies of all kinds must occur on schedule, for otherwise
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a the future--our now-time--may be irreparably changed."

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Miss Chambers said, "But isn't the very fact of our presence
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a in the past a changing of the past?"

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a "I was about to reach that point," said Dajani, displeased.
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a "If we assume that the past and present form a single
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a continuum, then obviously visitors from the twenty-first >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a century were present at all the great events of the past, >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a unobtrusively enough so that no mention of them found its >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a way into the annals of the fixed-time era. So we take great
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a care to camouflage everyone who goes up the line in the >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a costume of the time being visited. One must watch the past >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a without meddling, as a silent bystander, as inconspicuous >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a as possible. This is a rule that the Time Patrol enforces >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a with absolute inflexibility. I will discuss the nature of >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a that enforcement shortly.

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a "I spoke the other day of cumulative audience paradox. This
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a is a severe philosophical problem which has not yet been >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a resolved, and which I will present to you now purely as a >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a theoretical exercise, to give you some insight into the >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a complexities of our undertaking. Consider this: the first >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a time-traveler to go up the line to view the Crucifixion of >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Jesus was the experimentalist Barney Navarre, in 2012. Over
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a the succeeding two decades, another fifteen or twenty
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a experimentalists made the same journey. Since the commencement
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a of commercial excursions to Golgotha in 2041, approximately
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a one tourist group a month--or 100 tourists a year--has
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a viewed the scene. Thus about 1800 individuals of the
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a twenty-first century, so far, have observed the Crucifixion.
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Now, then: each of these groups is leaving from a different
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a month, but every one of them is converging on the same day!
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a If tourists continue to go up the line at a rate of 100 a >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a year to see the Crucifixion, the crowd at Golgotha will >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a consist of at least 10,000 time-travelers by the middle of >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a the twenty-second century, and--assuming no increase in the
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a permissible tourist trade--by the early thirtieth century, >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a some 100,000 time-travelers will have made the trip, all >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a of them necessarily congregating simultaneously at the site
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a of the Passion. Yet obviously no such crowds are present >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a there now, only a few thousand Palestinians--when I say >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a 'now,' I mean of course the time of the Crucifixion relative
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a to now-time 2059--and just as obviously those crowds will >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a continue to grow in the centuries of now-time. Taken to its
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a ultimate, the cumulative audience paradox yields us the >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a picture of an audience of billions of time-travelers piled >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a up in the past to witness the Crucifixion, filling all the >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Holy Land and spreading out into Turkey, into Arabia, even >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a to India and Iran. Similarly for every other significant >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a event in human history: as commercial time-travel progresses,
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a it must inevitably smother every event in a horde of
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a spectators, yet at the original occurrence of those events,
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a no such hordes were present! How is this paradox to be
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a resolved?"

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Miss Dalessandro had no suggestions. For once, she was
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a stumped. So were the rest of us. So was Dajani. So are the >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a finest minds of our era.

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Meanwhile, the past fills up with time-traveling sightseers.

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Dajani tossed one final twister at us before he let us go. >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a "I may add," he said, "that I myself, as a Courier, have >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a done the Crucifixion run twenty-two times, with twenty-two >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a different groups. If you were to attend the Crucifixion >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a yourselves tomorrow, you would find twenty-two Najeeb Dajanis
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a at the hill of Golgotha simultaneously, each of me occupying
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a a different position at the event explaining the happening >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a to my clients. Is this multiplication of Dajanis not a
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a fascinating thing to consider? Why are there not twenty-two
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Dajanis at loose in now-time? It stretches the intellect >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a to revolve such thoughts. Dismissed, dear ladies and
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a gentlemen, dismissed."

    The above is an excerpt from UP THE LINE by Silverberg.

    Beat me to it!

    That'll teach me to dawdle in the afternoon.


    Oh, it could be worse. Here's one extremely far-fetched example that
    somebody typing this post may or may not have experienced:
    You could have seen the "Time Patrol" mentioned up there, and lazily
    assumed this excerpt was from a Poul Anderson story that you were
    forgetting details about, and were too lazy to go check out.

    Tony


    When I was younger this was one of my favourite books.-a I wonder how it would hold up now.

    William Hyde

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  • From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written,alt.fan.heinlein on Thu Sep 17 15:41:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 9/17/2026 2:35 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 9/16/2026 9:12 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    Four Stories Featuring Time TravelrCa of a Sort

    It seems that you've been mysteriously transported through time...
    now what?

    https://reactormag.com/four-stories-featuring-time-travel-of-a-sort/

    Zero for four.

    Of course, there is Heinlein's time travel story, "All You Zombies".
    -a-a-a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27%E2%80%94All_You_Zombies%E2%80%94%27 >>
    And his stories "The Door Into Summer" and
    -a-a-a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Door_into_Summer
    "By His Bootstraps" (which I do not recall ever reading).
    -a-a-a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_His_Bootstraps

    At one point in high school I thought I'd read everything by Heinlein.

    But then in the school library I stumbled across one of the very first hardbound (and it was indeed well bound) SF hardbacks - a volume twenty years older than the school itself.

    Among many other great stories it contained "By His Bootstraps" which
    was not in any of the various Heinlein collections I had.

    It is impossible to convey how exciting this was.-a Secondly because it
    was an unknown Heinlein, but mainly because it was a fantastic story.

    Which is-a a roundabout way of saying, "read it, you'll like it".

    William Hyde

    https://archive.org/details/Astounding_v28n02_1941-10/page/n7/mode/2up

    Lynn

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  • From Robert Woodward@robertaw@drizzle.com to rec.arts.sf.written,alt.fan.heinlein on Thu Sep 17 21:40:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <118hfdp$k08c$1@dont-email.me>,
    William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 9/16/2026 9:12 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    Four Stories Featuring Time TravelrCa of a Sort

    It seems that you've been mysteriously transported through time... now
    what?

    https://reactormag.com/four-stories-featuring-time-travel-of-a-sort/

    Zero for four.

    Of course, there is Heinlein's time travel story, "All You Zombies".
    -a-a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27%E2%80%94All_You_Zombies%E2%80%94%27

    And his stories "The Door Into Summer" and
    -a-a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Door_into_Summer
    "By His Bootstraps" (which I do not recall ever reading).
    -a-a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_His_Bootstraps

    At one point in high school I thought I'd read everything by Heinlein.

    But then in the school library I stumbled across one of the very first hardbound (and it was indeed well bound) SF hardbacks - a volume twenty years older than the school itself.

    Among many other great stories it contained "By His Bootstraps" which
    was not in any of the various Heinlein collections I had.


    That would be _Adventures in Time and Space_ (edited by Healy and
    McComas)?
    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. rCo-----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com
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  • From Robert Woodward@robertaw@drizzle.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Sep 17 21:49:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <118hfj4$fvq4$2@dont-email.me>,
    Tony Nance <tnusenet17@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 9/17/26 3:28 PM, William Hyde wrote:
    Don wrote:
    Ted Nolan <tednolan> <ted@loft.tnolan.com> wrote:

    (SNIP)


    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a "We do not care to risk it," he said. "We prefer to see to
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a it that all 'past' events, as recorded in the annals of >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a history as compiled prior to the era of time-travel, go >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a untouched. For the past fifty years of now-time the entire
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a previous span of history, thought to be fixed, has been >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a potentially fluid; yet we struggle to keep it fixed. Thus
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a we employ the Time Patrol to make certain that everything
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a will happen in the past exactly as it did happen, no matter

    (Snip of most of excerpt)

    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a fascinating thing to consider? Why are there not twenty-two
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a Dajanis at loose in now-time? It stretches the intellect >>> -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a to revolve such thoughts. Dismissed, dear ladies and
    -a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a gentlemen, dismissed."

    The above is an excerpt from UP THE LINE by Silverberg.

    Beat me to it!

    That'll teach me to dawdle in the afternoon.


    Oh, it could be worse. Here's one extremely far-fetched example that somebody typing this post may or may not have experienced:
    You could have seen the "Time Patrol" mentioned up there, and lazily
    assumed this excerpt was from a Poul Anderson story that you were
    forgetting details about, and were too lazy to go check out.


    I looked at it and wondered where it was from because it wasn't a Poul Anderson Time Patrol story.
    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. rCo-----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com
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  • From Titus G@noone@nowhere.com to rec.arts.sf.written,alt.fan.heinlein on Fri Sep 18 16:56:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 18/09/2026 07:35, William Hyde wrote:
    Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 9/16/2026 9:12 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    Four Stories Featuring Time TravelrCa of a Sort

    It seems that you've been mysteriously transported through time...
    now what?

    https://reactormag.com/four-stories-featuring-time-travel-of-a-sort/

    Zero for four.

    Of course, there is Heinlein's time travel story, "All You Zombies".
    -a-a-a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27%E2%80%94All_You_Zombies%E2%80%94%27 >>
    And his stories "The Door Into Summer" and
    -a-a-a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Door_into_Summer
    "By His Bootstraps" (which I do not recall ever reading).
    -a-a-a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_His_Bootstraps

    At one point in high school I thought I'd read everything by Heinlein.

    But then in the school library I stumbled across one of the very first hardbound (and it was indeed well bound) SF hardbacks - a volume twenty
    years older than the school itself.

    Among many other great stories it contained "By His Bootstraps" which
    was not in any of the various Heinlein collections I had.

    It is impossible to convey how exciting this was.-a Secondly because it
    was an unknown Heinlein, but mainly because it was a fantastic story.

    Which is-a a roundabout way of saying, "read it, you'll like it".

    William Hyde

    It was one of my few Heinlein favourites, almost as good as Zombies.
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to rec.arts.sf.written on Fri Sep 18 09:21:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
    I looked at it and wondered where it was from because it wasn't a Poul >Anderson Time Patrol story.

    The way I see it it's exactly the same. There ain't no difference between a flying saucer and a time machine. People get so hung up on specifics. They miss out on seeing the whole thing. Take South America for example: In South America thousands of people go missing every year. Nobody knows where they go. They just, like, disappear. But if you think about it for a minute, you realize something. There had to be a time when there were no people. Right? Well where did all these people come from? I'll tell you where. The future. Where did all these people disappear to? The past! That's right, and how
    did they get there? Flying saucers. Which are really... yeaah you got it... time machines. I think a lot about this kind of stuff. I do my best thinking on the bus. That's how come I don't drive, see.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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  • From William Hyde@wthyde1953@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written,alt.fan.heinlein on Fri Sep 18 16:33:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    Robert Woodward wrote:
    In article <118hfdp$k08c$1@dont-email.me>,
    William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 9/16/2026 9:12 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
    Four Stories Featuring Time Travel|ore4-a of a Sort

    It seems that you've been mysteriously transported through time... now >>>> what?

    https://reactormag.com/four-stories-featuring-time-travel-of-a-sort/

    Zero for four.

    Of course, there is Heinlein's time travel story, "All You Zombies".
    |e-a|e-a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27%E2%80%94All_You_Zombies%E2%80%94%27

    And his stories "The Door Into Summer" and
    |e-a|e-a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Door_into_Summer
    "By His Bootstraps" (which I do not recall ever reading).
    |e-a|e-a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_His_Bootstraps

    At one point in high school I thought I'd read everything by Heinlein.

    But then in the school library I stumbled across one of the very first
    hardbound (and it was indeed well bound) SF hardbacks - a volume twenty
    years older than the school itself.

    Among many other great stories it contained "By His Bootstraps" which
    was not in any of the various Heinlein collections I had.


    That would be _Adventures in Time and Space_ (edited by Healy and
    McComas)?

    That's the one. Came out in 1946. I knew the name but had never seen a
    copy.

    William Hyde


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