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    From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Sep 14 18:36:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    rCLTrump EPA Moves To Permanently Eliminate Greenhouse Gas Emissions Rules
    for Power Plants, Gutting BidenrCOs Signature Environmental PoliciesrCY

    https://freebeacon.com/energy/trump-epa-moves-to-permanently-eliminate-greenhouse-gas-emissions-rules-for-power-plants-gutting-bidens-signature-environmental-policies/

    rCLThe agency is also axing Biden-era rules that would have forced
    coal-fired plants to shutter and gas-fired plants to complete costly environmental upgradesrCY

    rCLTogether, the moves represent a historic action that the EPA says is
    the largest power sector deregulatory action in U.S. history. According
    to the agencyrCOs data, the move axing the Biden-era regulations will save Americans $310 billion. The other actionrCoeliminating every remaining greenhouse gas-related power plant regulationrCowill save companies $370 million in direct compliance costs and is expected to lead to
    significant downstream savings in power bills both for businesses and households.rCY

    Excellent! These laws were unconstitutional anyway.

    Lynn

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  • From Nuno Silva@nunojsilva@invalid.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Sep 15 00:54:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 2026-09-15, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    rCLTrump EPA Moves To Permanently Eliminate Greenhouse Gas Emissions
    Rules for Power Plants, Gutting BidenrCOs Signature Environmental
    PoliciesrCY
    https://freebeacon.com/energy/trump-epa-moves-to-permanently-eliminate-greenhouse-gas-emissions-rules-for-power-plants-gutting-bidens-signature-environmental-policies/

    rCLThe agency is also axing Biden-era rules that would have forced
    coal-fired plants to shutter and gas-fired plants to complete costly environmental upgradesrCY

    rCLTogether, the moves represent a historic action that the EPA says is
    the largest power sector deregulatory action in
    U.S. history. According to the agencyrCOs data, the move axing the
    Biden-era regulations will save Americans $310 billion.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    Holy fucking shit, I knew Trump wanted to destroy the US economy, but
    still...

    Also, who does pick coal plants as an example, when these are shutting
    down because it's not viable, it's not profitable?


    This really sounds like they're trying not to say they're actually
    subsidizing inefficient power sources like coal, wasting money in the
    process.

    The other
    actionrCoeliminating every remaining greenhouse gas-related power plant regulationrCowill save companies $370 million in direct compliance costs
    and is expected to lead to significant downstream savings in power
    bills both for businesses and households.rCY

    This is insane. The savings in developed countries, where fossil fuels
    aren't subsidized or otherwise prioritized like this, come from sources
    such as renewables, driving prices quite low. Sometimes in hand with
    NPPs, but something tells me the Trump administration isn't trying to
    create a franchise of new power plants all over the US...

    If this were all there is, with no hidden subsidies, then there'd be not
    much of a deal, because energy companies would just invest in what gives
    them something in the semblance of profit, and that would be renewables.

    But reality is probably that the Trump administration will bully,
    harass, prosecute anyone who does use renewables despite this, and will
    try to bend such producers into using more expensive energy sources,
    just like they technically can coerce The Walt Disney Company and
    Paramount to not air interviews with James Talarico.

    Expect some extent of meddling and other sorts of corruption to make
    sure any energy company not adhering to very inefficient and stupid coal
    or to unobtainium oil loses tenders and contracts.

    Excellent! These laws were unconstitutional anyway.


    Lynn

    --
    Nuno Silva
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  • From BobbieSellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Sep 14 19:36:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 9/14/26 16:54, Nuno Silva wrote:
    On 2026-09-15, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    rCLTrump EPA Moves To Permanently Eliminate Greenhouse Gas Emissions
    Rules for Power Plants, Gutting BidenrCOs Signature Environmental
    PoliciesrCY
    https://freebeacon.com/energy/trump-epa-moves-to-permanently-eliminate-greenhouse-gas-emissions-rules-for-power-plants-gutting-bidens-signature-environmental-policies/

    rCLThe agency is also axing Biden-era rules that would have forced
    coal-fired plants to shutter and gas-fired plants to complete costly
    environmental upgradesrCY

    rCLTogether, the moves represent a historic action that the EPA says is
    the largest power sector deregulatory action in
    U.S. history. According to the agencyrCOs data, the move axing the
    Biden-era regulations will save Americans $310 billion.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    Holy fucking shit, I knew Trump wanted to destroy the US economy, but still...

    Also, who does pick coal plants as an example, when these are shutting
    down because it's not viable, it's not profitable?


    This really sounds like they're trying not to say they're actually subsidizing inefficient power sources like coal, wasting money in the process.

    Or they want to point to employed coal miners.>
    The other
    actionrCoeliminating every remaining greenhouse gas-related power plant
    regulationrCowill save companies $370 million in direct compliance costs
    and is expected to lead to significant downstream savings in power
    bills both for businesses and households.rCY

    This is insane. The savings in developed countries, where fossil fuels
    aren't subsidized or otherwise prioritized like this, come from sources
    such as renewables, driving prices quite low. Sometimes in hand with
    NPPs, but something tells me the Trump administration isn't trying to
    create a franchise of new power plants all over the US...

    If this were all there is, with no hidden subsidies, then there'd be not
    much of a deal, because energy companies would just invest in what gives
    them something in the semblance of profit, and that would be renewables.

    But reality is probably that the Trump administration will bully,
    harass, prosecute anyone who does use renewables despite this, and will
    try to bend such producers into using more expensive energy sources,
    just like they technically can coerce The Walt Disney Company and
    Paramount to not air interviews with James Talarico.

    Expect some extent of meddling and other sorts of corruption to make
    sure any energy company not adhering to very inefficient and stupid coal
    or to unobtainium oil loses tenders and contracts.

    Excellent! These laws were unconstitutional anyway.

    Baloney! It violated the Constitution to negate those laws
    which are in line with "General Welfare" as the emissions from
    Coal are very unhealthy for the citizens and for the animals and
    plants on which we live.

    SCOUSA might let him get away with it but will the mothers
    who lose their children to this insanity.

    I doubt it.
    bliss


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  • From Cryptoengineer@petertrei@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Sep 15 10:08:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 9/14/2026 7:54 PM, Nuno Silva wrote:
    On 2026-09-15, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    rCLTrump EPA Moves To Permanently Eliminate Greenhouse Gas Emissions
    Rules for Power Plants, Gutting BidenrCOs Signature Environmental
    PoliciesrCY
    https://freebeacon.com/energy/trump-epa-moves-to-permanently-eliminate-greenhouse-gas-emissions-rules-for-power-plants-gutting-bidens-signature-environmental-policies/

    rCLThe agency is also axing Biden-era rules that would have forced
    coal-fired plants to shutter and gas-fired plants to complete costly
    environmental upgradesrCY

    rCLTogether, the moves represent a historic action that the EPA says is
    the largest power sector deregulatory action in
    U.S. history. According to the agencyrCOs data, the move axing the
    Biden-era regulations will save Americans $310 billion.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    Holy fucking shit, I knew Trump wanted to destroy the US economy, but still...

    Also, who does pick coal plants as an example, when these are shutting
    down because it's not viable, it's not profitable?


    This really sounds like they're trying not to say they're actually subsidizing inefficient power sources like coal, wasting money in the process.

    The other
    actionrCoeliminating every remaining greenhouse gas-related power plant
    regulationrCowill save companies $370 million in direct compliance costs
    and is expected to lead to significant downstream savings in power
    bills both for businesses and households.rCY

    This is insane. The savings in developed countries, where fossil fuels
    aren't subsidized or otherwise prioritized like this, come from sources
    such as renewables, driving prices quite low. Sometimes in hand with
    NPPs, but something tells me the Trump administration isn't trying to
    create a franchise of new power plants all over the US...
    One of Trump's election strategies is to appeal to labor unions,
    claiming that the Democrats have abandoned the working man, and are
    now now more interested in coastal elites and their concentration
    on lifestyle progressive values.

    To some extent, he has a point.

    Or course, in reality, the only constituency that benefits from Trump
    is the 1%, and more the 0.01%. Since Citizens United, both parties now
    suck at the teat of corporations and the Epstein/billionaire class.

    Part of this pro-union strategy includes performative gestures towards
    legacy industries, include the coal unions. However, there are now under
    44,000 coal miners in the US, less than half of whom are unionized.

    pt
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Sep 15 21:24:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Mon, 14 Sep 2026 18:36:31 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    Excellent! These laws were unconstitutional anyway.

    Why are you making this political?
    --
    s|b

    Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae.
    (Julius Caesar)
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  • From WolfFan@akwolffan@zoho.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Sep 15 18:04:33 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Sep 15, 2026, s|b wrote
    (in article <ngtk9uF9acnU2@mid.individual.net>):

    On Mon, 14 Sep 2026 18:36:31 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    Excellent! These laws were unconstitutional anyway.

    Why are you making this political?

    Because he can.

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  • From BobbieSellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Sep 15 18:52:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 9/15/26 12:24, s|b wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Sep 2026 18:36:31 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    Excellent! These laws were unconstitutional anyway.

    Why are you making this political?


    Do you think that your announcement of the matter was
    anything but political? Oh I know that was in your personal
    economic interest and that of course was simply pecuniary
    and not at all political. Tt certain was not politic.

    TrumprCOs forced coal plant extensions thrown out by judge

    The Department of Energy declared an rCLemergencyrCY when none existed.
    John Timmer rCo Sep 11, 2026 1:32 PM |

    <https://arstechnica.com/science/2026/09/court-rejects-governments-energy-emergency-that-kept-coal-plant-open/>

    bliss
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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Sep 16 09:13:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 21:24:09 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Sep 2026 18:36:31 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    Excellent! These laws were unconstitutional anyway.

    Why are you making this political?
    Becauase, to MAGA, /everything/ is political.
    Hadn't you noticed?
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Sep 17 17:22:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 18:52:59 -0700, BobbieSellers wrote:


    Do you think that your announcement of the matter was
    anything but political? Oh I know that was in your personal
    economic interest and that of course was simply pecuniary
    and not at all political. Tt certain was not politic.

    I have no idea what you're on about. You're mistaken me for somebody
    else.

    TrumprCOs forced coal plant extensions thrown out by judge

    The Department of Energy declared an rCLemergencyrCY when none existed. John Timmer rCo Sep 11, 2026 1:32 PM |

    Yeah, I never said this, yet you quote this as if I did. What's your
    motive behind this?
    --
    s|b

    Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae.
    (Julius Caesar)
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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Sep 17 17:35:31 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 09:13:20 -0700, Paul S Person wrote:

    On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 21:24:09 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

    Why are you making this political?

    Becauase, to MAGA, /everything/ is political.

    Hadn't you noticed?

    To be honest, it was a rhetorical question for the OP; he knows why.
    --
    s|b

    Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae.
    (Julius Caesar)
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  • From BobbieSellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Sep 17 09:56:00 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 9/17/26 08:22, s|b wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 18:52:59 -0700, BobbieSellers wrote:


    Do you think that your announcement of the matter was
    anything but political? Oh I know that was in your personal
    economic interest and that of course was simply pecuniary
    and not at all political. Tt certain was not politic.

    I have no idea what you're on about. You're mistaken me for somebody
    else.

    TrumprCOs forced coal plant extensions thrown out by judge

    The Department of Energy declared an rCLemergencyrCY when none existed.
    John Timmer rCo Sep 11, 2026 1:32 PM |

    Yeah, I never said this, yet you quote this as if I did. What's your
    motive behind this?

    Confusion! When I don't get enough rest or over exert myself with the
    Activities of Daily Life I miss obvious matters. I thought I was
    responding to the OP... Sorry.

    bliss- Dell 7730- PCLinuxOS 2026.09 Linux 6.18.52- Plasma 6.7.5
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  • From Nuno Silva@nunojsilva@invalid.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Fri Sep 18 11:24:55 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 2026-09-17, s|b wrote:

    On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 09:13:20 -0700, Paul S Person wrote:

    On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 21:24:09 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

    Why are you making this political?

    Becauase, to MAGA, /everything/ is political.

    Hadn't you noticed?

    To be honest, it was a rhetorical question for the OP; he knows why.

    Yeah, it wasn't hard to understand in the context of his post on Dolly
    Parton v. other rich people.
    --
    Nuno Silva
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