• Re: "Our_Deepest_Condolences_to_Dolly_Parton's Family"

    From quadibloc@quadibloc@invalid.com (John Savard) to rec.arts.sf.written on Sat Sep 5 14:36:42 2026
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    On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 01:55:55 -0500, Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

    "She has done more for literacy than anyone we know."

    Teaching humans to read and write? Isn't it bad enough that they've
    managed to talk?

    However, a sad time like this is not really a time for jokes - or
    political arguments (based on the fact that the college-educated
    appear less likely to have voted for America's sitting President).

    Helping children learn to read and write is definitely a worthy cause.
    Just the other day, I was watching a "short" on YouTube in which
    someone was asking teenagers on a beach... what two countries border
    the United States.

    Several of them could not answer.

    Ah, I think it may have been this video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SS1PBRis0qg

    - I recognize the teenagers, but it's possible this is a repackaging
    of the actual video I had originally seen.

    The conclusion drawn was that America, or at least its education
    system, is in sad decline.

    Of course, I suppose an alternate conclusion might be that Canada and
    Mexico are now two really unimportant and irrelevant countries, and so
    the renaming of the "former" Gulf of Mexico and Lake Ontario by your
    Dear Leader was entirely appropriate and even perhaps overdue.

    Hey, what with fracking and now Venezuela, maybe you won't need our
    oil - or Mexico's, they have some too that they sold to you - any
    longer.

    But, as a Canadian, I find it difficult to agree with that, and so I
    hope efforts like those of Dolly Parton continue, so that a greater
    proportion of Americans finally acquire the ability to find Canada on
    a map. At least if they're not doing so in order to invade it.

    John Savard
    http://www.quadibloc.com/desk_p.htm
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  • From quadibloc@quadibloc@invalid.com (John Savard) to rec.arts.sf.written on Sat Sep 5 16:06:11 2026
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    On Sat, 05 Sep 2026 14:36:42 GMT, quadibloc@invalid.com (John Savard)
    wrote:

    Ah, I think it may have been this video: >https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SS1PBRis0qg

    - I recognize the teenagers, but it's possible this is a repackaging
    of the actual video I had originally seen.

    It turns out that other video I saw wasn't the original either.
    Originally, this was due to the Jesse Walters show, and so I have to
    give credit to Fox News:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vANd-WMUkAo

    John Savard
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  • From scott@scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Sep 6 14:10:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    quadibloc@invalid.com (John Savard) writes:
    On Sat, 05 Sep 2026 14:36:42 GMT, quadibloc@invalid.com (John Savard)
    wrote:

    Ah, I think it may have been this video: >>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SS1PBRis0qg

    - I recognize the teenagers, but it's possible this is a repackaging
    of the actual video I had originally seen.

    It turns out that other video I saw wasn't the original either.
    Originally, this was due to the Jesse Walters show, and so I have to
    give credit to Fox News:


    Which likely means that the video was heavily edited to support
    the claim. Much like the old tonight show man-in-the-street
    videos that Leno would do.
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  • From WolfFan@akwolffan@zoho.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Sep 6 14:11:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Aug 27, 2026, Lynn McGuire wrote
    (in article <116qipe$1tb7d$1@dont-email.me>):

    On 8/27/2026 11:27 AM, s|b wrote:
    On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 01:55:55 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    rCLOur Deepest Condolences to Dolly PartonrCOs FamilyrCY

    https://ilona-andrews.com/blog/our-deepest-condolences-to-dolly-partons-fam
    ily/

    rCLIn 1995 Dolly Parton started the Imagination Library, which has by now gifted 332,411,218 books to children ages birth to 5. If you couldnrCOt afford books for your baby, Dolly would send them to you. All you had to do was register, and you too could read to your children before bed.
    Your kids didnrCOt have to miss out because you had to pick between buying
    books and keeping the lights on.rCY
    https://imaginationlibrary.com/

    "She has done more for literacy than anyone we know."

    That is freaking amazing.

    Yesterday, I read it was estimated that she gave away around $600
    million to charity and that she leaves a fortune of $450 million behind.
    So she gave more than half her fortune away. Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg,
    ... are you reading this?

    Why are you making this political?

    Interesting.

    Please point out the politics in that post. Please. [gets popcorn]



    Lynn


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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Sep 6 12:24:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 9/6/2026 11:11 AM, WolfFan wrote:
    On Aug 27, 2026, Lynn McGuire wrote
    (in article <116qipe$1tb7d$1@dont-email.me>):

    On 8/27/2026 11:27 AM, s|b wrote:
    On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 01:55:55 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    rCLOur Deepest Condolences to Dolly PartonrCOs FamilyrCY

    https://ilona-andrews.com/blog/our-deepest-condolences-to-dolly-partons-fam
    ily/

    rCLIn 1995 Dolly Parton started the Imagination Library, which has by now >>>> gifted 332,411,218 books to children ages birth to 5. If you couldnrCOt >>>> afford books for your baby, Dolly would send them to you. All you had to >>>> do was register, and you too could read to your children before bed.
    Your kids didnrCOt have to miss out because you had to pick between buying >>>> books and keeping the lights on.rCY
    https://imaginationlibrary.com/

    "She has done more for literacy than anyone we know."

    That is freaking amazing.

    Yesterday, I read it was estimated that she gave away around $600
    million to charity and that she leaves a fortune of $450 million behind. >>> So she gave more than half her fortune away. Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg,
    ... are you reading this?

    Why are you making this political?

    Interesting.

    Please point out the politics in that post. Please. [gets popcorn]

    "Dolly gave aid and comfort to non-WASP people who are part of the Great Replacement!"

    :P
    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.
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  • From WolfFan@akwolffan@zoho.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Sep 6 19:44:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Sep 6, 2026, Dimensional Traveler wrote
    (in article <117kela$2l252$1@dont-email.me>):

    On 9/6/2026 11:11 AM, WolfFan wrote:
    On Aug 27, 2026, Lynn McGuire wrote
    (in article <116qipe$1tb7d$1@dont-email.me>):

    On 8/27/2026 11:27 AM, s|b wrote:
    On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 01:55:55 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    rCLOur Deepest Condolences to Dolly PartonrCOs FamilyrCY

    https://ilona-andrews.com/blog/our-deepest-condolences-to-dolly-partons-f
    am
    ily/

    rCLIn 1995 Dolly Parton started the Imagination Library, which has by now
    gifted 332,411,218 books to children ages birth to 5. If you couldnrCOt
    afford books for your baby, Dolly would send them to you. All you had to
    do was register, and you too could read to your children before bed. Your kids didnrCOt have to miss out because you had to pick between buying
    books and keeping the lights on.rCY
    https://imaginationlibrary.com/

    "She has done more for literacy than anyone we know."

    That is freaking amazing.

    Yesterday, I read it was estimated that she gave away around $600 million to charity and that she leaves a fortune of $450 million behind.
    So she gave more than half her fortune away. Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg, ... are you reading this?

    Why are you making this political?

    Interesting.

    Please point out the politics in that post. Please. [gets popcorn]
    "Dolly gave aid and comfort to non-WASP people who are part of the Great Replacement!"

    P

    IrCOve noticed that rCyleftistsrCO are always causing trouble in his world. A while back he posted about how Britain put troops in Belize in case the Nicuraguans came over the border. No doubt because they were evil left-wing Sandinistas. Nicaragua doesnrCOt have a border with Belize. Mexico is north, the Caribbean Sea is east, and Guatelmala is west and south. South and east
    of Guatemala is Houndras; Nicaragua is south and east of Hounduras. To get to Belize Nicuragua would first have to cross Hounduras and Guatemala.

    Note that Guatelmala had a very right-wing military dictatorship government.

    The threat to Belize was from rightists, not leftists.

    He will never admit his error.

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  • From Jay Morris@morrisj@epsilon3.me to rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Sep 6 18:51:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 9/6/2026 9:10 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    quadibloc@invalid.com (John Savard) writes:
    On Sat, 05 Sep 2026 14:36:42 GMT, quadibloc@invalid.com (John Savard)
    wrote:

    Ah, I think it may have been this video:
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SS1PBRis0qg

    - I recognize the teenagers, but it's possible this is a repackaging
    of the actual video I had originally seen.

    It turns out that other video I saw wasn't the original either.
    Originally, this was due to the Jesse Walters show, and so I have to
    give credit to Fox News:


    Which likely means that the video was heavily edited to support
    the claim. Much like the old tonight show man-in-the-street
    videos that Leno would do.

    There's a bunch of channels/pages creating these videos, and not just
    USA. Asking people on the streets high school or even middle school
    level questions. Of course the ones posted are where the person flubs
    most or all answers. Occasionally they will post one where someone
    breezes through the questions just to show that not everybody is ignorant.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Sep 7 00:35:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Sun, 6 Sep 2026 12:24:26 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

    "Dolly gave aid and comfort to non-WASP people who are part of the
    Great Replacement!"

    rCLGreat ReplacementrCY is apparently some kind of trigger phrase. Yes,
    the world is becoming more diverse, whether culturally, ethnically, linguistically, however you want to measure it. Yes, it does mean the
    dominance of the old European empires (and the USA, which is very much
    a child of them) is weakening. Some see this as a threat.

    Yes, itrCOs a threat to those cultures/groups which were in the
    ascendancy before. But so what? All itrCOs doing is weakening their
    ascendancy, nobody wants to destroy them or suppress them. Unless they
    cannot imagine existing as just one of many groups of peoples in the
    world, no longer occupying a special place.

    But thatrCOs life. Get used to it.
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  • From Titus G@noone@nowhere.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Sep 7 13:32:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 07/09/2026 12:35, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
    snip
    rCLGreat ReplacementrCY is apparently some kind of trigger phrase. Yes,
    the world is becoming more diverse, whether culturally, ethnically, linguistically, however you want to measure it. Yes, it does mean the dominance of the old European empires (and the USA, which is very much
    a child of them) is weakening. Some see this as a threat.

    Yes, itrCOs a threat to those cultures/groups which were in the
    ascendancy before. But so what? All itrCOs doing is weakening their ascendancy,

    But the official story, as fervently believed by residents, FourBricks
    and Dim McWire (admittedly actively practising glossalalia with typing
    as well as speech), is that there are good countries and evil countries.

    nobody wants to destroy them or suppress them. Unless they
    cannot imagine existing as just one of many groups of peoples in the
    world, no longer occupying a special place.

    No. Evil countries love murder and suppression. Unless Christian
    countries fight evil, the devil will win. Why do you think that the Pope
    has initiated a poll to have God renamed Donald?

    But thatrCOs life. Get used to it.

    rCLShe had life. I had accumulated anecdotes.rCY Bluebeard. K Vonnegut Jnr.

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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Sep 7 04:22:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Mon, 7 Sep 2026 13:32:59 +1200, Titus G wrote:

    Evil countries love murder and suppression. Unless Christian
    countries fight evil, the devil will win.

    This is why religions cannot be trusted to maintain their own moral
    compass.
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  • From Nuno Silva@nunojsilva@invalid.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Sep 7 10:24:52 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 2026-09-07, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Sep 2026 12:24:26 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

    "Dolly gave aid and comfort to non-WASP people who are part of the
    Great Replacement!"

    rCLGreat ReplacementrCY is apparently some kind of trigger phrase. Yes,
    the world is becoming more diverse, whether culturally, ethnically, linguistically, however you want to measure it. Yes, it does mean the dominance of the old European empires (and the USA, which is very much
    a child of them) is weakening. Some see this as a threat.

    "Great replacement" seems to be a name of a far-right/nazi conspiracy
    theory which is, of course, getting boosted by the far-right and perhaps
    also similarly biased "algorithmic social media".

    It probably bears no resemblance to reality any more than the far-right
    antics about renewable energy, which insist in telling us it's not
    efficient, that it's being held up with heavy subsidies, and that it
    can't possibly work, all while it works way too well, and while the heavily-subsidized fossil fuel outfits are all scrambling regarding the
    Hormuz situation.

    Yes, itrCOs a threat to those cultures/groups which were in the
    ascendancy before. But so what? All itrCOs doing is weakening their ascendancy, nobody wants to destroy them or suppress them. Unless they
    cannot imagine existing as just one of many groups of peoples in the
    world, no longer occupying a special place.

    But thatrCOs life. Get used to it.
    --
    Nuno Silva
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  • From Robert Woodward@robertaw@drizzle.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Sep 7 10:25:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    In article <117lvt4$33ilj$1@dont-email.me>,
    Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-09-07, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Sep 2026 12:24:26 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

    "Dolly gave aid and comfort to non-WASP people who are part of the
    Great Replacement!"

    rCLGreat ReplacementrCY is apparently some kind of trigger phrase. Yes,
    the world is becoming more diverse, whether culturally, ethnically, linguistically, however you want to measure it. Yes, it does mean the dominance of the old European empires (and the USA, which is very much
    a child of them) is weakening. Some see this as a threat.

    "Great replacement" seems to be a name of a far-right/nazi conspiracy
    theory which is, of course, getting boosted by the far-right and perhaps
    also similarly biased "algorithmic social media".


    The actuality behind it is that decades ago (still within living memory
    of many baby-boomers), before the immigration laws were loosen in the
    mid 1960s, what is now the census category Non-Hispanic White was the
    vast majority of the population of the USA (IIRC, the descendants of
    British Isles Protestants, German Protestants, Scandinavian Protestants, Netherlands Protestants, and lets not forget French Huguenots were in
    the majority). Since then, because of both the low fertility rates of baby-boomer women and their daughters and extensive immigration from
    countries not in Europe, this has changed.
    --
    "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
    Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_. rCo-----------------------------------------------------
    Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com
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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Sep 7 14:16:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Mon, 07 Sep 2026 10:24:52 +0100, Nuno Silva
    <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-09-07, Lawrence DAOliveiro wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Sep 2026 12:24:26 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

    "Dolly gave aid and comfort to non-WASP people who are part of the
    Great Replacement!"

    oGreat Replacemento is apparently some kind of trigger phrase. Yes,
    the world is becoming more diverse, whether culturally, ethnically,
    linguistically, however you want to measure it. Yes, it does mean the
    dominance of the old European empires (and the USA, which is very much
    a child of them) is weakening. Some see this as a threat.

    "Great replacement"
    is actually a conspiracy theory in which Certain Groups are trying to
    replace White People with ... others.
    Given that the White people promoting the theory are from the same
    groups of White people whose behavior from Colonial times onward has
    been, to say the least, deplorable (as opposed to those White people
    who have at least managed to avoid some of the nastier behavior of
    their cousins), replacement with people -- no matter where they come
    from or what they look like -- might actually be a /good/ thing.
    It appears to be a staple of the alt-right.
    AFAIK, nobody's shot up a pizza parlor ceiling in Florida as a result
    of it. Yet.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From Nuno Silva@nunojsilva@invalid.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Sep 9 11:17:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 2026-09-07, Robert Woodward wrote:

    In article <117lvt4$33ilj$1@dont-email.me>,
    Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-09-07, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Sep 2026 12:24:26 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

    "Dolly gave aid and comfort to non-WASP people who are part of the
    Great Replacement!"

    "Great Replacement" is apparently some kind of trigger phrase. Yes,
    the world is becoming more diverse, whether culturally, ethnically,
    linguistically, however you want to measure it. Yes, it does mean the
    dominance of the old European empires (and the USA, which is very much
    a child of them) is weakening. Some see this as a threat.

    "Great replacement" seems to be a name of a far-right/nazi conspiracy
    theory which is, of course, getting boosted by the far-right and perhaps
    also similarly biased "algorithmic social media".


    The actuality behind it is that decades ago (still within living memory
    of many baby-boomers), before the immigration laws were loosen in the
    mid 1960s, what is now the census category Non-Hispanic White was the

    And what made the immigration laws less loose before that? Surely there
    must have been a prior tightening?

    Or is this really just intertwined with the history of racism and
    slavery? As in, laws may have been loose before, but in effect led to
    less diverese immigration arising out of racism and slavery?

    vast majority of the population of the USA (IIRC, the descendants of
    British Isles Protestants, German Protestants, Scandinavian Protestants, Netherlands Protestants, and lets not forget French Huguenots were in
    the majority).

    Since then, because of both the low fertility rates of
    baby-boomer women and their daughters and extensive immigration from countries not in Europe, this has changed.

    There's no reason to believe this would not extend to immigrants and
    their families, provided there's no discrimination pushing them aside of
    living to the same standard and rights as these baby-boomers.
    --
    Nuno Silva
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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Sep 9 08:55:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On Wed, 09 Sep 2026 11:17:54 +0100, Nuno Silva
    <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-09-07, Robert Woodward wrote:

    In article <117lvt4$33ilj$1@dont-email.me>,
    Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-09-07, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Sep 2026 12:24:26 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

    "Dolly gave aid and comfort to non-WASP people who are part of the
    Great Replacement!"

    "Great Replacement" is apparently some kind of trigger phrase. Yes,
    the world is becoming more diverse, whether culturally, ethnically,
    linguistically, however you want to measure it. Yes, it does mean the
    dominance of the old European empires (and the USA, which is very much >>> > a child of them) is weakening. Some see this as a threat.

    "Great replacement" seems to be a name of a far-right/nazi conspiracy
    theory which is, of course, getting boosted by the far-right and perhaps >>> also similarly biased "algorithmic social media".

    The actuality behind it is that decades ago (still within living memory
    of many baby-boomers), before the immigration laws were loosen in the
    mid 1960s, what is now the census category Non-Hispanic White was the

    And what made the immigration laws less loose before that? Surely there
    must have been a prior tightening?
    The laws /changed/ limited immigration by nationality, IIRC. Orientals
    got the short end of the stick (again, IIRC). I'm not sure what it was
    like before then. That is, before the "Yellow Peril".
    Or is this really just intertwined with the history of racism and
    slavery? As in, laws may have been loose before, but in effect led to
    less diverese immigration arising out of racism and slavery?
    The opposite would be more to the truth -- the laws that were changed
    were racist, as noted above (yet again, IIRC).
    vast majority of the population of the USA (IIRC, the descendants of
    British Isles Protestants, German Protestants, Scandinavian Protestants,
    Netherlands Protestants, and lets not forget French Huguenots were in
    the majority).
    You are mistaking "white Europeans" for "WASP Males". Properly
    speaking traditional American racism is based on the firm conviction
    that WASP males are and must always be in firm control. And are
    authorized to form mobs and use force against any others who become
    "uppity". These are the ones who believe they are being "replaced".
    And, as I may have already pointed out, replacing them might not be an
    entirely bad idea, given their excesses over the years.
    Since then, because of both the low fertility rates of
    baby-boomer women and their daughters and extensive immigration from
    countries not in Europe, this has changed.

    There's no reason to believe this would not extend to immigrants and
    their families, provided there's no discrimination pushing them aside of >living to the same standard and rights as these baby-boomers.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From BobbieSellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.invalid to rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Sep 9 09:53:17 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 9/9/26 08:55, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Wed, 09 Sep 2026 11:17:54 +0100, Nuno Silva
    <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-09-07, Robert Woodward wrote:

    In article <117lvt4$33ilj$1@dont-email.me>,
    Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-09-07, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Sep 2026 12:24:26 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

    "Dolly gave aid and comfort to non-WASP people who are part of the >>>>>> Great Replacement!"

    "Great Replacement" is apparently some kind of trigger phrase. Yes,
    the world is becoming more diverse, whether culturally, ethnically,
    linguistically, however you want to measure it. Yes, it does mean the >>>>> dominance of the old European empires (and the USA, which is very much >>>>> a child of them) is weakening. Some see this as a threat.

    "Great replacement" seems to be a name of a far-right/nazi conspiracy
    theory which is, of course, getting boosted by the far-right and perhaps >>>> also similarly biased "algorithmic social media".

    The actuality behind it is that decades ago (still within living memory
    of many baby-boomers), before the immigration laws were loosen in the
    mid 1960s, what is now the census category Non-Hispanic White was the

    And what made the immigration laws less loose before that? Surely there
    must have been a prior tightening?

    Actually the immigration of the oppressed minorities from the Pale of Settlement, a Russian Empire construction in Eastern Europe which where
    Jews were oppressed by the Czarist then hated by the local non-Jewish
    people as they were only permitted the roles of Tax Farmer and various subsistence roles. And the Italian immigrants and Slav
    made the WASPs very nervous and they began to hire the Irish
    immigrants previously despised to keep these darker-skinned people
    in line.

    The laws /changed/ limited immigration by nationality, IIRC. Orientals
    got the short end of the stick (again, IIRC). I'm not sure what it was
    like before then. That is, before the "Yellow Peril".

    The USA needed people to work building the railroads, From the East Coast it was Irish and Polish people but the West Coast needed
    more workers and the Chinese came in to do heroic work from San
    Francisco Bay Area to the Salt Lake Area. Chinese were deliberately
    excluded from the photos taken of the driving of the Goldern Spike.


    Or is this really just intertwined with the history of racism and
    slavery? As in, laws may have been loose before, but in effect led to
    less diverese immigration arising out of racism and slavery?

    The opposite would be more to the truth -- the laws that were changed
    were racist, as noted above (yet again, IIRC).

    vast majority of the population of the USA (IIRC, the descendants of
    British Isles Protestants, German Protestants, Scandinavian Protestants, >>> Netherlands Protestants, and lets not forget French Huguenots were in
    the majority).

    You are mistaking "white Europeans" for "WASP Males". Properly
    speaking traditional American racism is based on the firm conviction
    that WASP males are and must always be in firm control. And are
    authorized to form mobs and use force against any others who become
    "uppity". These are the ones who believe they are being "replaced".
    And, as I may have already pointed out, replacing them might not be an entirely bad idea, given their excesses over the years.

    Indeed. These are the folks who murdered the women and
    children of the Native tribes while calling them savages and devil
    worshipers. Should be replaced but most of them are dead but their
    offspring continue the nonsense...

    The replacements that they fear are competent people of color
    and any color but White ASP. African people who have been in the
    North American continent for nearly as long as any white people
    are feared. G-d should protect any non-white person who knocks
    at the door of a white person at an untimely hour or who shares
    the color of a perceived economic rival nation. Japanese were
    beaten to death when USA car sales were in a downturn. A Chinese
    student murdered by a fearful home owner. As unpopular as
    a LBGTQ+ individual at a hard shell Baptist convention.


    Since then, because of both the low fertility rates of
    baby-boomer women and their daughters and extensive immigration from
    countries not in Europe, this has changed.

    Well those Southern Asian people who learned all about
    computers were absolutely necessary to the Silicon Valley
    entrepreneurs and they could be paid less in the early days.


    There's no reason to believe this would not extend to immigrants and
    their families, provided there's no discrimination pushing them aside of
    living to the same standard and rights as these baby-boomers.

    Oh what a benign view you project.

    Every immigrant group has been oppressed by the prior
    immigrants as they were by the WASPS and the Africans have been
    repeatedly injured at every level of government despite the
    fact they were brought here because someone in Africa wanted
    to get rid of them some hundreds of years ago and our grandees
    the plantation owners wanted free labor.

    Look up the story of Robert Smalls, American politician
    and former slave (1839-1915), Civil war hero, the 1st USN ship's
    captain, State and Federal elected office holder.

    bliss


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  • From Cryptoengineer@petertrei@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Sep 10 11:30:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    On 9/9/2026 6:17 AM, Nuno Silva wrote:
    On 2026-09-07, Robert Woodward wrote:

    In article <117lvt4$33ilj$1@dont-email.me>,
    Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-09-07, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Sep 2026 12:24:26 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

    "Dolly gave aid and comfort to non-WASP people who are part of the
    Great Replacement!"

    "Great Replacement" is apparently some kind of trigger phrase. Yes,
    the world is becoming more diverse, whether culturally, ethnically,
    linguistically, however you want to measure it. Yes, it does mean the
    dominance of the old European empires (and the USA, which is very much >>>> a child of them) is weakening. Some see this as a threat.

    "Great replacement" seems to be a name of a far-right/nazi conspiracy
    theory which is, of course, getting boosted by the far-right and perhaps >>> also similarly biased "algorithmic social media".


    The actuality behind it is that decades ago (still within living memory
    of many baby-boomers), before the immigration laws were loosen in the
    mid 1960s, what is now the census category Non-Hispanic White was the

    And what made the immigration laws less loose before that? Surely there
    must have been a prior tightening?
    The Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 did what it says.

    The Emergency Quota Act of 1921 froze immigration quotas by country to
    preserve the then-current ethnic mix. There were plenty of slots for
    northern Europeans, and very few for other parts of the world. It wasn't repealed until 1965.

    There wee a lot of tweaks and exceptions, but that was the basics back
    then.

    pt


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  • From scott@scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) to rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Sep 10 16:10:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.written

    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
    On 9/9/2026 6:17 AM, Nuno Silva wrote:
    On 2026-09-07, Robert Woodward wrote:

    In article <117lvt4$33ilj$1@dont-email.me>,
    Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 2026-09-07, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Sun, 6 Sep 2026 12:24:26 -0700, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

    "Dolly gave aid and comfort to non-WASP people who are part of the >>>>>> Great Replacement!"

    "Great Replacement" is apparently some kind of trigger phrase. Yes,
    the world is becoming more diverse, whether culturally, ethnically,
    linguistically, however you want to measure it. Yes, it does mean the >>>>> dominance of the old European empires (and the USA, which is very much >>>>> a child of them) is weakening. Some see this as a threat.

    "Great replacement" seems to be a name of a far-right/nazi conspiracy
    theory which is, of course, getting boosted by the far-right and perhaps >>>> also similarly biased "algorithmic social media".


    The actuality behind it is that decades ago (still within living memory
    of many baby-boomers), before the immigration laws were loosen in the
    mid 1960s, what is now the census category Non-Hispanic White was the

    And what made the immigration laws less loose before that? Surely there
    must have been a prior tightening?
    The Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 did what it says.

    In the 1840s, "Irish need not apply" or "Protestant only" was the de-facto,
    if not de-jure rule in a large part of the USA.


    The Emergency Quota Act of 1921 froze immigration quotas by country to >preserve the then-current ethnic mix. There were plenty of slots for
    northern Europeans, and very few for other parts of the world. It wasn't >repealed until 1965.

    There wee a lot of tweaks and exceptions, but that was the basics back
    then.

    pt


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