• L. Ron Hubbard said you don't get rich writing sci-fi

    From Nomen Nescio@nobody@dizum.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv on Wed Aug 5 07:22:39 2026
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    Who has?

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  • From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Aug 5 00:51:55 2026
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    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    Who has?

    Are you including fantasy?

    J. K. Rowling
    Stephen King
    Robert Heinlein
    David Weber
    John Ringo
    Jerry Pournelle
    Larry Niven

    Lynn
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.tv on Wed Aug 5 19:19:00 2026
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    On 2026-08-05 05:51:55 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

    Who has?

    Are you including fantasy?

    J. K. Rowling
    Stephen King
    Robert Heinlein
    David Weber
    John Ringo
    Jerry Pournelle
    Larry Niven

    Lynn

    Andy Weir probably made quite a bit of money selling his books to
    Hollyweird for "The Martian" and "Project Hail Mary".

    George Lucas got very very rich writing sci-fi thanks to his "little
    sideline" called "Star Wars". :-)

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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.tv on Wed Aug 5 19:20:32 2026
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    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

    L. Ron Hubbard said you don't get rich writing sci-fi

    But Ron L. Hubbard was a looney ... he invented the ridiculous
    Scientology 'religion'.

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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to rec.arts.sf.tv on Wed Aug 5 07:33:55 2026
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    Probably because he never wrote any *good* sci-fi ...
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  • From Daniel70@daniel47@nomail.afraid.org to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Aug 5 20:29:52 2026
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    On 5/08/2026 3:51 pm, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    Who has?

    Are you including fantasy?

    J. K. Rowling
    Stephen King
    Robert Heinlein
    David Weber
    John Ringo
    Jerry Pournelle
    Larry Niven

    Lynn

    WHAT?? You've written Sci-Fi, Lynn!! Might I have read any??

    Oh!! WAIT!! ;-P
    --
    Daniel70
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Aug 5 06:32:15 2026
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    Verily, in article <114uj1t$2nlju$1@dont-email.me>, did Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> deliver unto us this message:

    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    Who has?

    Are you including fantasy?

    Robert Heinlein

    You'd put Robert Heinlein in the fantasy column? Interesting. He seems squarely science fiction to me.
    --
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    But I'm not so easily sold.
    For supposing they should,
    It would do them no good --
    They'd lose it at once to the bold.
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.tv on Wed Aug 5 06:33:06 2026
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    Verily, in article <114uo80$2p8k4$1@dont-email.me>, did Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> deliver unto us this message:

    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

    L. Ron Hubbard said you don't get rich writing sci-fi

    But Ron L. Hubbard was a looney ... he invented the ridiculous
    Scientology 'religion'.

    Didn't he originally do this as a bet or dare or something? Then it
    proved lucrative, and here we are.

    That's the vague version I heard, at least. I never heard details or saw evidence.
    --
    The meek shall inherit, we're told,
    But I'm not so easily sold.
    For supposing they should,
    It would do them no good --
    They'd lose it at once to the bold.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Aug 5 13:37:55 2026
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    In article <114uj1t$2nlju$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    Who has?

    Are you including fantasy?

    J. K. Rowling
    Stephen King
    Robert Heinlein
    David Weber
    John Ringo
    Jerry Pournelle
    Larry Niven

    Lynn

    Thank you!

    NN blunders again.
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.tv on Wed Aug 5 09:39:04 2026
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    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

    L. Ron Hubbard said you don't get rich writing sci-fi

    But Ron L. Hubbard was a looney ... he invented the ridiculous
    Scientology 'religion'.

    Hubbard was definitely not a looney. The people following him might have
    been, but Hubbard invented a ridiculous religion in order to make money,
    and he made money beyond imagination. The key here is profit, not prophets. --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Aug 5 09:41:04 2026
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    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> wrote:
    Verily, in article <114uj1t$2nlju$1@dont-email.me>, did Lynn McGuire ><lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> deliver unto us this message:

    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    Who has?

    Are you including fantasy?

    Robert Heinlein

    You'd put Robert Heinlein in the fantasy column? Interesting. He seems >squarely science fiction to me.

    Even very late Heinlein relies on technology, even if it is pretty badly explained by the time you get to Number of the Beast.
    --scott
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.tv on Wed Aug 5 09:47:23 2026
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    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> wrote:
    Verily, in article <114uo80$2p8k4$1@dont-email.me>, did Your Name ><YourName@YourISP.com> deliver unto us this message:

    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

    L. Ron Hubbard said you don't get rich writing sci-fi

    But Ron L. Hubbard was a looney ... he invented the ridiculous
    Scientology 'religion'.

    Didn't he originally do this as a bet or dare or something? Then it
    proved lucrative, and here we are.

    At the 1956 Worldcon, he said that the only way to make money under the IRS regulations at the time was to start a religion. And he did start a religion.

    Now, one story that you will hear is that he did this after a bet with RAH, but this is pretty likely spurious.

    He did remark several times that some of his inspiration came from
    talking to RAH, but he never actually had a bet with RAH about starting
    a religion.

    Why would he? I am sure RAH would not have taken the bet but would have
    bet on the winning side anyway. But yet, the story travels around fandom. --scott
    --
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.tv on Wed Aug 5 13:57:29 2026
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    In article <114uo54$2p7eq$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2026-08-05 05:51:55 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

    Who has?

    Are you including fantasy?

    J. K. Rowling
    Stephen King
    Robert Heinlein
    David Weber
    John Ringo
    Jerry Pournelle
    Larry Niven

    Lynn

    Andy Weir probably made quite a bit of money selling his books to
    Hollyweird for "The Martian" and "Project Hail Mary".

    George Lucas got very very rich writing sci-fi thanks to his "little >sideline" called "Star Wars". :-)


    There we go.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.tv on Wed Aug 5 13:58:26 2026
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    In article <114uo80$2p8k4$1@dont-email.me>,
    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

    L. Ron Hubbard said you don't get rich writing sci-fi

    But Ron L. Hubbard was a looney ... he invented the ridiculous
    Scientology 'religion'.


    Are you a part of the Cuklt of Stlain, YN?
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Aug 5 14:15:15 2026
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    In article <114v3b0$2shlj$1@dont-email.me>,
    Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 5/08/2026 3:51 pm, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    Who has?

    Are you including fantasy?

    J. K. Rowling
    Stephen King
    Robert Heinlein
    David Weber
    John Ringo
    Jerry Pournelle
    Larry Niven

    Lynn

    WHAT?? You've written Sci-Fi, Lynn!! Might I have read any??

    Oh!! WAIT!! ;-P

    Yes! Look a the newsgroups line.

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    Daniel70
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Aug 5 14:17:00 2026
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    In article <MPG.44dcdb36862fdc8e98a277@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> wrote:
    Verily, in article <114uj1t$2nlju$1@dont-email.me>, did Lynn McGuire ><lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> deliver unto us this message:

    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    Who has?

    Are you including fantasy?

    Robert Heinlein

    You'd put Robert Heinlein in the fantasy column? Interesting. He seems >squarely science fiction to me.


    Same here. I see you have met Lynn.

    --
    The meek shall inherit, we're told,
    But I'm not so easily sold.
    For supposing they should,
    It would do them no good --
    They'd lose it at once to the bold.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.tv on Wed Aug 5 14:18:12 2026
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    In article <MPG.44dcdb6ae9eeeab098a278@news.eternal-september.org>,
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> wrote:
    Verily, in article <114uo80$2p8k4$1@dont-email.me>, did Your Name ><YourName@YourISP.com> deliver unto us this message:

    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

    L. Ron Hubbard said you don't get rich writing sci-fi

    But Ron L. Hubbard was a looney ... he invented the ridiculous
    Scientology 'religion'.

    Didn't he originally do this as a bet or dare or something? Then it
    proved lucrative, and here we are.

    That's the vague version I heard, at least. I never heard details or saw >evidence.


    Just cross reference the statement in a search engine.

    --
    The meek shall inherit, we're told,
    But I'm not so easily sold.
    For supposing they should,
    It would do them no good --
    They'd lose it at once to the bold.
    --
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  • From scott@scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Aug 5 14:30:03 2026
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    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> writes:
    Verily, in article <114uj1t$2nlju$1@dont-email.me>, did Lynn McGuire ><lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> deliver unto us this message:

    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    Who has?

    Are you including fantasy?

    Robert Heinlein

    You'd put Robert Heinlein in the fantasy column? Interesting. He seems >squarely science fiction to me.


    Two words - Glory Road.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Aug 5 14:46:52 2026
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    In article <LNHcS.4943$wI58.82@fx44.iad>,
    Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> writes:
    Verily, in article <114uj1t$2nlju$1@dont-email.me>, did Lynn McGuire >><lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> deliver unto us this message:

    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    Who has?

    Are you including fantasy?

    Robert Heinlein

    You'd put Robert Heinlein in the fantasy column? Interesting. He seems >>squarely science fiction to me.


    Two words - Glory Road.

    there we go.
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  • From BobbieSellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.invalid to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.tv on Wed Aug 5 08:33:25 2026
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    On 8/5/26 00:19, Your Name wrote:
    On 2026-08-05 05:51:55 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

    Who has?

    Are you including fantasy?

    J. K. Rowling
    Stephen King
    Robert Heinlein
    David Weber
    John Ringo
    Jerry Pournelle
    Larry Niven

    Lynn

    Andy Weir probably made quite a bit of money selling his books to
    Hollyweird for "The Martian" and "Project Hail Mary".

    George Lucas got very very rich writing sci-fi thanks to his "little sideline" called "Star Wars".-a :-)


    And you all leave out George R. R. Martin and
    "Game of Thrones" which must have put a pretty penny
    in his pocket.

    But when Hubbard was writing and he wrote
    Speculative Fiction he was correct that he would
    not get rich doing that. So he wrote a Religion
    called the "Science of Dianetics" which became
    with slight embellishment "Scientology" which
    claims religious status thus tax free in many
    regimes.
    And i am clear that it is a scam.
    Buddhism of most varieties is cheaper.

    bliss
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  • From BobbieSellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.invalid to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.tv on Wed Aug 5 08:34:28 2026
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    On 8/5/26 03:33, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <114uo80$2p8k4$1@dont-email.me>, did Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> deliver unto us this message:

    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

    L. Ron Hubbard said you don't get rich writing sci-fi

    But Ron L. Hubbard was a looney ... he invented the ridiculous
    Scientology 'religion'.

    Didn't he originally do this as a bet or dare or something? Then it
    proved lucrative, and here we are.

    That's the vague version I heard, at least. I never heard details or saw evidence.

    No dare. He wanted to escape taxes.
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  • From Cryptoengineer@petertrei@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Aug 5 11:44:52 2026
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    On 8/5/2026 1:51 AM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    Who has?

    Are you including fantasy?

    J. K. Rowling
    Stephen King
    Robert Heinlein
    David Weber
    John Ringo
    Jerry Pournelle
    Larry Niven

    Lynn

    Niven, at least, was rich to start with. His
    family comes from California oil money.

    pt
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  • From Cryptoengineer@petertrei@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Aug 5 11:52:46 2026
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    On 8/5/2026 6:32 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <114uj1t$2nlju$1@dont-email.me>, did Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> deliver unto us this message:

    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    Who has?

    Are you including fantasy?

    Robert Heinlein

    You'd put Robert Heinlein in the fantasy column? Interesting. He seems squarely science fiction to me.


    He did both.

    Lost Legacy.
    Magic Inc.
    A lot of Glory Road

    I'm sure there are more.

    pt
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.tv on Wed Aug 5 15:54:20 2026
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    In article <114vl47$33ot8$1@dont-email.me>,
    BobbieSellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.invalid> wrote:
    On 8/5/26 00:19, Your Name wrote:
    On 2026-08-05 05:51:55 +0000, Lynn McGuire said:
    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

    Who has?

    Are you including fantasy?

    J. K. Rowling
    Stephen King
    Robert Heinlein
    David Weber
    John Ringo
    Jerry Pournelle
    Larry Niven

    Lynn

    Andy Weir probably made quite a bit of money selling his books to
    Hollyweird for "The Martian" and "Project Hail Mary".

    George Lucas got very very rich writing sci-fi thanks to his "little
    sideline" called "Star Wars".-a :-)


    And you all leave out George R. R. Martin and
    "Game of Thrones" which must have put a pretty penny
    in his pocket.

    But when Hubbard was writing and he wrote
    Speculative Fiction he was correct that he would
    not get rich doing that. So he wrote a Religion
    called the "Science of Dianetics" which became
    with slight embellishment "Scientology" which
    claims religious status thus tax free in many
    regimes.
    And i am clear that it is a scam.
    Buddhism of most varieties is cheaper.

    bliss

    Thank you!
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.tv on Wed Aug 5 15:55:33 2026
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    In article <114vl64$33ot8$2@dont-email.me>,
    BobbieSellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.invalid> wrote:
    On 8/5/26 03:33, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <114uo80$2p8k4$1@dont-email.me>, did Your Name
    <YourName@YourISP.com> deliver unto us this message:

    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

    L. Ron Hubbard said you don't get rich writing sci-fi

    But Ron L. Hubbard was a looney ... he invented the ridiculous
    Scientology 'religion'.

    Didn't he originally do this as a bet or dare or something? Then it
    proved lucrative, and here we are.

    That's the vague version I heard, at least. I never heard details or saw
    evidence.

    No dare. He wanted to escape taxes.

    Got you.
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Aug 5 15:57:50 2026
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    In article <114vlpl$34033$1@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 8/5/2026 1:51 AM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    Who has?

    Are you including fantasy?

    J. K. Rowling
    Stephen King
    Robert Heinlein
    David Weber
    John Ringo
    Jerry Pournelle
    Larry Niven

    Lynn

    Niven, at least, was rich to start with. His
    family comes from California oil money.

    pt

    Thank you for the facts.
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  • From The True Doctor@agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.tv on Wed Aug 5 17:01:28 2026
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    On 05/08/2026 11:33, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <114uo80$2p8k4$1@dont-email.me>, did Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> deliver unto us this message:

    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

    L. Ron Hubbard said you don't get rich writing sci-fi

    But Ron L. Hubbard was a looney ... he invented the ridiculous
    Scientology 'religion'.

    Didn't he originally do this as a bet or dare or something? Then it
    proved lucrative, and here we are.

    That's the vague version I heard, at least. I never heard details or saw evidence.


    It was derived from a science fiction novel which he wrote after which
    he and his publisher used ideas from that to come up with Dianetics
    which after it went bankrupt Hubbard decided to come up with Scientology
    as a derivative of it but copyright all of the literature and its
    derivative works and licence this alternative to psychiatry to others
    who wanted to practice it for a fee.

    When it went foul of US laws which required medical claims to be scientifically proven after all the psychiatrists complained it was
    taking away all of their business, Hubbard turned it into a religion
    because as a religion its medical claims about mental health did not
    need any scientific proof since religion is based on faith. As an added benefit religious organisations were regarded as charities and didn't
    have to pay most taxes so Scientology made a huge profit and Hubbard was
    then chased around the world by the IRS for alleged tax evasion and died
    a fugitive.

    All the stuff about aliens visiting Earth in the past had to be inserted
    into the teaching material for the benefit of the authorities so as to
    justify calling it a religion.

    So basically Scientology flourished thanks to the US authorities trying
    to outlaw it
    --
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Aug 5 16:01:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <114vm8e$34033$2@dont-email.me>,
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 8/5/2026 6:32 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <114uj1t$2nlju$1@dont-email.me>, did Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> deliver unto us this message:

    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    Who has?

    Are you including fantasy?

    Robert Heinlein

    You'd put Robert Heinlein in the fantasy column? Interesting. He seems
    squarely science fiction to me.


    He did both.

    Lost Legacy.
    Magic Inc.
    A lot of Glory Road

    I'm sure there are more.

    pt

    And then some.
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  • From BobbieSellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.invalid to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Aug 5 09:02:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    On 8/5/26 03:32, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <114uj1t$2nlju$1@dont-email.me>, did Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> deliver unto us this message:

    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    Who has?

    Are you including fantasy?

    Robert Heinlein

    You'd put Robert Heinlein in the fantasy column? Interesting. He seems squarely science fiction to me.

    Heinlen's work was sold to Sci-Fiction magazines but a lot of
    it is clearly Fantasy unless Lazarus Long will please check in?

    In his youth science had not yet discovered its limits to
    travel, nor to life so he could write convincingly about things
    we now find impossible. But we believed in lots of things since
    revealed to be unlikely such as the idea that America was always
    doing the right thing, that voters could pick the best man for
    whatever elected position and that what was good for General Motors
    was good for the USA.




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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.tv on Wed Aug 5 18:17:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <114vmop$34f4d$1@dont-email.me>,
    The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
    On 05/08/2026 11:33, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <114uo80$2p8k4$1@dont-email.me>, did Your Name
    <YourName@YourISP.com> deliver unto us this message:

    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

    L. Ron Hubbard said you don't get rich writing sci-fi

    But Ron L. Hubbard was a looney ... he invented the ridiculous
    Scientology 'religion'.

    Didn't he originally do this as a bet or dare or something? Then it
    proved lucrative, and here we are.

    That's the vague version I heard, at least. I never heard details or saw
    evidence.


    It was derived from a science fiction novel which he wrote after which
    he and his publisher used ideas from that to come up with Dianetics
    which after it went bankrupt Hubbard decided to come up with Scientology
    as a derivative of it but copyright all of the literature and its
    derivative works and licence this alternative to psychiatry to others
    who wanted to practice it for a fee.

    When it went foul of US laws which required medical claims to be >scientifically proven after all the psychiatrists complained it was
    taking away all of their business, Hubbard turned it into a religion
    because as a religion its medical claims about mental health did not
    need any scientific proof since religion is based on faith. As an added >benefit religious organisations were regarded as charities and didn't
    have to pay most taxes so Scientology made a huge profit and Hubbard was >then chased around the world by the IRS for alleged tax evasion and died
    a fugitive.

    All the stuff about aliens visiting Earth in the past had to be inserted >into the teaching material for the benefit of the authorities so as to >justify calling it a religion.

    So basically Scientology flourished thanks to the US authorities trying
    to outlaw it


    Life's contradiction.

    --
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    "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
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  • From doctor@doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Aug 5 18:18:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    In article <114vmr4$34g4d$1@dont-email.me>,
    BobbieSellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.invalid> wrote:
    On 8/5/26 03:32, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <114uj1t$2nlju$1@dont-email.me>, did Lynn McGuire
    <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> deliver unto us this message:

    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    Who has?

    Are you including fantasy?

    Robert Heinlein

    You'd put Robert Heinlein in the fantasy column? Interesting. He seems
    squarely science fiction to me.

    Heinlen's work was sold to Sci-Fiction magazines but a lot of
    it is clearly Fantasy unless Lazarus Long will please check in?

    In his youth science had not yet discovered its limits to
    travel, nor to life so he could write convincingly about things
    we now find impossible. But we believed in lots of things since
    revealed to be unlikely such as the idea that America was always
    doing the right thing, that voters could pick the best man for
    whatever elected position and that what was good for General Motors
    was good for the USA.





    GM cars suck.
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.tv on Wed Aug 5 17:22:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
    In article <114vl64$33ot8$2@dont-email.me>,
    BobbieSellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.invalid> wrote:
    On 8/5/26 03:33, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <114uo80$2p8k4$1@dont-email.me>, did Your Name
    <YourName@YourISP.com> deliver unto us this message:

    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:

    L. Ron Hubbard said you don't get rich writing sci-fi

    But Ron L. Hubbard was a looney ... he invented the ridiculous
    Scientology 'religion'.

    Didn't he originally do this as a bet or dare or something? Then it
    proved lucrative, and here we are.

    That's the vague version I heard, at least. I never heard details or saw >>> evidence.

    No dare. He wanted to escape taxes.

    Got you.

    Taxes! Aye! That's-a where my brother Ravelli lives!
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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  • From Lynn McGuire@lynnmcguire5@gmail.com to rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Aug 5 18:36:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.sf.tv

    On 8/5/2026 5:32 AM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <114uj1t$2nlju$1@dont-email.me>, did Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> deliver unto us this message:

    On 8/5/2026 12:22 AM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    Who has?

    Are you including fantasy?

    Robert Heinlein

    You'd put Robert Heinlein in the fantasy column? Interesting. He seems squarely science fiction to me.

    You are misreading my list of rich authors. My list of rich authors is speculative fiction authors, which includes both science fiction and
    fantasy.

    BTW, Robert Heinlein wrote "Glory Road", an acknowledged fantasy work.
    Some of his other works such as "The Cat Who Walks Through Walls"
    straddle the line between science fiction and fantasy. So does
    "Stranger In A Strange Land" and a several other of his works.

    Lynn

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