• Re: "Slumberland" and the odd adaptation

    From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to rec.arts.sf.movies on Thu Nov 24 09:04:24 2022
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    On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 09:40:09 -0800 (PST), Jack Bohn
    <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wednesday, November 23, 2022 at 11:45:23 AM UTC-5, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 07:36:50 -0800 (PST), Jack Bohn
    <jack....@gmail.com> wrote:

    The James Bond movies, before they ran out of books, were famous for jacking up the title, tearing out the old machinery, and building an entirely new story inside it.

    Some were very close to the book, others were (to varying degrees)
    farther from the book, and (yes) a few arguably shared nothing with
    the book except the title and (maybe) the name of the villain.

    There was a sequence where Bond and a Bond Girl were tied together and towed behind a motorboat over coral that was transplanted from one book to another's movie. Alas, I don't remember which. I know I've read _Moonraker_ and maybe another whose title escapes me. I think the sequence was shown in "Never Say Never Again," by interesting circumstances required to be a close remake of "Thunderball."

    It was moved from /Live and Let Die/ to /For Your Eyes Only/.
    The "he disagreed with something that ate him" sequence was moved from
    /Live and Let Die/ [1] to /License to Kill/.

    [1] And, for some reason, referred to in (IIRC) /Thunderball/ by Bond
    reminding Leiter that "they got much closer to you in Jamaica".

    Just as the bit about the New Gun at the start of /Dr No/ is (in the
    book) a result of the ending of /From Russia With Love/.

    Also, to the extent that the books formed a series, the movies
    destroyed that by using the books in the filmmaker's order.

    That reminds me of the story that an upgrade to Bond's gun was moved from one book to another's movie (the first one?) as a good character moment. Are there other series-building moments from the books transplanted to the movies? (In the Sherlock Holmes books, Moriarity was introduced to the readers and to Watson in the story that was supposed to kill off Holmes. Later, an earlier case was written, and Moriarity was to play a part, Holmes and Watson discuss him (by name) as a known problem. Fans mostly headcannon the discussions as taking place in the opposite stories, although I doubt anyone has tampered with the sacred texts, even if collecting them in internal chronological order.)

    See above for the Bond gun upgrade. It was in the novel /Dr No/, which
    doesn't mean it wasn't put in the film to show Bond's character.

    There are two pairs of films that have a common third character, one a
    country sherriff and the other Jaws. And they kept Blofeld around for
    several films after /OHMSS/.

    The only real sequence in the books is the last four novels:
    /Thunderball/, /OHMSS/, /You Only Live Twice/, and /The Man with the
    Golden Gun/. By doing /YOLT/ first, the films completely destroyed
    this but, what the heck, they were still James Bond movies!
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