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    THE MT VOID
    01/16/26 -- Vol. 44, No. 29, Whole Number 2415

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    Topics:
    Mini Reviews, Part 03 (THALE, A HARD PROBLEM, DEAN MARTIN:
    KING OF COOL, SUNDAY BEST: THE UNTOLD STORY OF ED
    SULLIVAN) (film reviews by Evelyn C. Leeper)
    Riddle (answer to riddle [and new riddle]
    by Keith F. Lynch)
    Science Fiction as a Predictor (pointer to article,
    with comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)
    YOUR BEHAVIOR WILL BE MONITORED (comment
    by Evelyn C. Leeper)
    Hard Science Fiction, Soft Science Fiction, and Fantasy
    (letter of comment by John Hertz)
    This Week's Reading (THE PRINCESS BRIDE)
    (book comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: Mini Reviews, Part 03 (film reviews by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    THALE (2012): THALE is a Norwegian folklore film, just as WHITE
    REINDEER was a Finnish folklore film. But I suspect THALE was made
    with the intent of reaching a wider audience, and in fact was sold
    to fifty countries after its release. Thus is the difference
    between the international film market between 1952 and 2012. The
    budget sounds more like a 1952 budget, though--$10,000--less than
    the cost of a new roof.

    In THALE, two men who work for a company that cleans up death
    scenes find a girl hiding in the basement of a cabin that is a
    clean-up site, She seems unable to speak, but there are some
    audiocassettes that give tantalizing hints of what has happened.
    In fact, one criticism of the film is that it is too talky in
    terms of explanation. The ultimate explanation seems to have some
    parallels in the early evolution of the various species of the
    genus Homo.

    THALE's success may have inspired other Norwegian folk horror
    films such as TROLL HUNTER (2010) or TROLL (2022) (not to be
    confused with the 1986 American film TROLL) and its sequel, TROLL
    2.

    Released theatrically 05 April 2013; currently streaming on Hoopla.

    Film Credits:
    <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2112287/reference>

    What others are saying:
    <https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/thale_2012>


    A HARD PROBLEM (2021): The idea in A HARD PROBLEM is not a new
    one, at least in written science fiction. And there are films with
    similar ideas, though not the specific idea of he film.
    Ironically, the idea has been discussed in the real world as
    something that might be possible in the future.

    The film raises issues of self-awareness, consciousness, and
    purpose. The title refers to 'the Hard Problem of
    Consciousness'--how humans (and others) have subjective
    experiences (qualia). These have been in science fiction for a
    long time. The difference in this film is the origin of the beings
    involved, which does not really add that much.

    I realize this is all very vague, but I don't want to give too
    much away.

    Released streaming 12 December 2023.

    Film Credits:
    <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11080042/reference>

    What others are saying:
    <https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/a_hard_problem>


    DEAN MARTIN: KING OF COOL (2021): DEAN MARTIN: KING OF COOL covers
    Dean Martin's life--his entire life, not just the history of
    Martin and (Jerry) Lewis, and not just the history of the "Rat
    Pack", though both of those are covered.

    The emphasis is on Martin as a family man, in spite of the fact
    that he was divorced three times. This seemed to be more because
    he loved all his children and remained close to them in spite of
    this.

    As for Martin & Lewis, DEAN MARTIN: KING OF COOL makes it out to
    be entirely Lewis's fault. This may be true, but it is also
    reasonable to apply a certain level of skepticism, as it is not
    clear that the filmmakers ever got Lewis's side of the story. (One
    of Lewis's children was interviewed, but never spoke about the
    causes of the break-up--at least on camera.)

    The famed 'reconciliation' arranged by Sinatra on the Jerry Lewis
    Telethon never really lasted. However, when Martin's son died,
    Lewis unobtrusively attended the funeral.

    There are a couple of interesting takeaways, one favorable and one
    unfavorable.

    Favorable: Martin stood by his friends. The Rat Pack supported JFK
    throughout his campaign, but Kennedy invited only Martin, Peter
    Lawford, Frank Sinatra, and Joey Bishop to his Inauguration
    Dinner. He excluded Sammy Davis, Jr., because Davis's wife was
    white. Sinatra and Bishop attended anyway, but Martin refused to
    go. (Ironically, up to this point JFK had been very friendly with
    Sinatra, but after he was elected, he realized that Sinatra's
    Mafia ties made Sinatra a liability, and he cut all ties with him.
    This is shown dramatically in the narrative film THE RAT PACK.)

    Unfavorable: When Martin started doing a solo act, he played a
    drunk. In reality, he was not a drunk, and drank apple juice on
    stage. But he made being drunk look cool.

    Additional topical note:

    The show features the Christmas shows with Dean Martin and Frank
    Sinatra. Stephen Miller (TrumprCOs deputy chief of staff for policy
    and Homeland Security advisor, as well as the man behind the
    immigration agenda) recently posted, "Watched the Dean Martin and
    Frank Sinatra Family Christmas with my kids. Imagine watching that
    and thinking America needed infinity migrants from the third
    world."

    Ignoring the use of "infinity" as an adjective, Miller was soundly
    roasted for his tweet.

    Brian Krassenstein: "Both Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra were
    children of immigrants. Dean Martin didnrCOt even begin to learn
    english until he was 5. Imagine watching a show with your kids and
    trying to figure out ways to use it to attack immigrants who are
    in need on Christmas day."

    Rolling Stone politics reporter Nikki McCann Ramirez: "Dean Martin
    was born Dino Paul Crocetti and gave himself a stage name because
    of braindead xenophobes like Stephen. Sinatra was also a child of
    Italian immigrants. Imagine watching them and thinking immigrants
    didnrCOt build the culture you fetishize today."

    Bill Kristol, editor at large The Bulwark: "The parents of Frank
    Sinatra and Dean Martin (b. Dino Crocetti) were immigrants from
    rCythird worldrCO parts of Italy. In the U.S., various Sinatras and
    Crocettis had occasional run-ins with the law. They were the kinds
    of immigrants Stephen Miller would have been eager to deport."

    I will just quote Jeff MacNelly (from the comic strip "Shoe"):
    "You can't fix stupid."

    Released theatrically 19 Nov 2021.

    Film Credits:
    <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11346000/reference>

    What others are saying: <https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dean_martin_king_of_cool>


    SUNDAY BEST: THE UNTOLD STORY OF ED SULLIVAN (2025): SUNDAY BEST
    is not quite a biography of Ed Sullivan, and not quite a history
    of THE ED SULLIVAN SHOW. It is a bit of both, but focusing on
    Sullivan as an instrument of social change.

    It was not just Elvis Presley and the Beatles. It was the stars
    from the neighborhood where Sullivan was born--Harlem. And it was
    the African-American performers from all over the world that
    Sullivan booked that put black faces on the television screen when
    the only black faces on television were whites in black-face.

    And he did not just book them. He stood next to them, he shook
    hands with them, he put his arm around them--all actions that the
    network censors had told him not to do.

    But one thing I noticed watching this was that every time they
    panned across the audience of the show, every audience member was
    white.

    Released streaming 07 July 2025.

    Film Credits:
    <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7264336/reference>

    What others are saying:
    <https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sunday_best>


    [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: Riddle (answer to riddle [and new riddle] by Keith F. Lynch)

    Last week we published this riddle from Keith F. Lynch:

    What do Australia, Chile, Costa Rica, Cuba, Czechia, France,
    Iceland, Laos, Liberia, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand,
    North Korea, Norway, Panama, Russia, Samoa, Slovakia, Taiwan,
    Thailand, Trinidad & Tobago, the United Kingdom, and the United
    States have in common? [-kfl]

    John Kerr-Mudd mused:

    Eccentrically positioned Capitals? (hmm, not Czechia, France,
    Luxembourg, Panama). Narrow little sticky-out bits? Ah, parts you
    need a boat to get to some other bits of?

    Ah well, I gave it a go. [-jkm]

    Evelyn notes:

    I suspect most countries have "narrow little sticky-out bits," and
    everything not land-locked (and not having large lakes) has "parts
    you need a boat to get to some other bits of." [-ecl]

    Keith answers:

    Thay all have red, white, and blue flags, i.e. their flags contain
    all three colors and contain no other colors.

    (Correction: Costa Rica's flag also contains a small amount of
    green.)

    Can you name any nation whose flag contains *none* of these three
    colors? As far as I can tell, there's currently just one. [-kfl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: Science Fiction as a Predictor (pointer to article, with
    comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    The Guardian had an article titled "Mass surveillance, the
    metaverse, making America rCygreat againrCO: the novelists who
    predicted our present"; the title says it all.

    As a bonus it also mentions Borges in the subtitle: "From Jorge
    Luis Borges to George Orwell and Margaret Atwood, novelists have
    foreseen some of the major developments of our age. What can we
    learn from their prophecies?":

    "ItrCOs often said that BorgesrCOs story ["The Garden of Forking
    Paths"] foreshadows the multiverse hypothesis in quantum
    physics--first proposed by Hugh Everett in 1957, then
    popularised by Bryce DeWitt in the 1970s as the rCLmany worlds
    interpretationrCY of quantum mechanics."

    They're wrong of course, in the sense that Murray Leinster's
    "Sidewise in Time" (1934) predates "The Garden of Forking Paths"
    (1941) by seven years.

    At any rate, here's the article; I believe it is not paywalled:

    <https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/jan/10/ mass-surveillance-the-metaverse-making-america-great-again-the- novelists-who-predicted-our-present>

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: YOUR BEHAVIOR WILL BE MONITORED (comment by Evelyn
    C. Leeper)

    In response to Joe Karpierz's review of YOUR BEHAVIOR WILL BE
    MONITORED in the 01/09/26 issue of the MT VOID, Evelyn writes:

    Joe wrote:

    Those readers who work or have worked in a corporate environment
    will recognize situations from their own corporate life. This
    makes the story relatable and (to me) funny. I've been in enough
    meetings that look like those in the novel that I swear Feinstein
    was sitting right next to me in them. [-jak]

    This brought to mind this extract from Connie Willis's novella
    'Bellwether':

    "All right, fellow workers," Management said. "Do you have
    your five objectives? Flip, would you collect them?"

    Elaine looked stricken. Gina snatched the list from her and
    wrote rapidly:
    1. Optimize potential.
    2. Facilitate empowerment.
    3. Implement visioning.
    4. Strategize priorities.
    5. Augment core structures.

    "How did you do that?" I said admiringly.

    "Those are the five things I always write down," she said
    and handed the list to Flip...

    [-cw]

    [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: Hard Science Fiction, Soft Science Fiction, and Fantasy
    (letter of comment by John Hertz)

    In response to Dale Skran's comments on why hard SF is losing its
    audience in the 12/26/25 issue of the MT VOID, John Hertz writes:

    Even I observed that Dale Skran's ChapGPT paragraph ion the thick
    of vociferous talk about Artificial Intelligence at <File770.com>.

    I'll let others discuss whether the paragraph reveals its ChatGPT
    origin, whether the question was wisely (or satirically) posed to
    ChatGPT, and like that.

    It makes a sad and I believe mundane (if I may use that term)
    assumption, that speculative fiction (in which I include science
    fiction and fantasy, although Heinlein said not to) is in the
    predicting, or the hoping, business; readers like it if it appears
    to promote a world they want, or work against one they don't.

    Setting this aside--if possible--here are some further thoughts I
    propose for attention.

    Are the terms "hard" and "soft" science questionable? I believe
    they emerged in the 1960s from sociology--a "soft" science--and to
    some extent put down "hard" science; "soft" science is welcoming,
    "hard" science is harsh; then of course they were adopted
    defiantly in the "hard" sciences.

    Setting this aside--if possible--I too have the impression that
    more "soft" science fiction than "hard" appears these days, and
    more fantasy than science fiction. I don't object to fantasy; some
    of it is quite good; a few authors have done both, even (if I may
    use that term) Heinlein and Niven. I don't say this (if true) is
    sex-related: I'd consider FRANKENSTEIN "hard" science--although
    it's one of those books everybody talks about but nobody has read;
    and women have done "hard" science--I recently proposed for Best
    Related Work a biography of Marie Curie.

    Five decades ago [James] Michener's SPACE--a novel I think we
    neglect (is it science fiction? back into the can, worms!)- has
    scientists more involved with art than artists with science. True?
    Relevant?

    I see resistance among some college students--how large a part of
    the public? of the book-buying public?--to requirements that they
    study outside their major interest. I've run into science students
    protesting, as even worse than "soft" science, general
    education--such worthless subjects as literature and philosophy.
    Widespread? Contrary to SPACE? (Can fiction be contradicted? back,
    worms!) Do literature and philosophy count among the arts?

    Speaking as a philosophy major, and a literature lover, I confess
    that all toomuch of these is, bluntly, glop. My own
    profession--I'm a lawyer--is a terrible offender.

    Fifteen decades ago one of the most literary and philosophical
    lawyers, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., said "the life of the law has
    not been logic: it has been experience." True? Relevant?

    Eight decades Vladimir Nabokov, active in both literature and
    "hard" science, said "this is the worst thing a reader can do, he
    identifies himself with a character in the book." True? Relevant?

    Today we are not invited to do things, but to experience them. Do
    readers want to immerse themselves? Do more thus want fantasy than
    science fiction? If so, why? Do authors think so? Publishers? Hugo
    voters?

    As Nabokov used to say, ponder this. [-jh]

    Evelyn responds:

    You seem to move back and forth between talking about "hard
    science fiction" and "hard science". FRANKENSTEIN was science
    fiction (and yes, I have read it, as well as Shelley's THE LAST
    MAN), but Marie Curie was doing science.

    As for writing both hard science fiction and fantasy, Catherine
    Asaro comes to mind.

    I will also note that fantasy is taking over not just speculative
    fiction, but mainstream fiction. On a recent trip to the public
    library, a friend and I noticed that a substantial percentage of
    books filed in the "Fiction" section were actually fantasy: time
    travel (with any science fiction basis), ghosts, magical realism,
    etc. [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: This Week's Reading (book comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    In the preface to THE PRINCESS BRIDE (1973, Ballantine, ISBN
    0-345-25483-X), William Goldman writes, "Fact: BUTCH CASSIDY AND
    THE SUNDANCE KID is, no question, the most popular thing I've ever
    been connected with. When I die, if the Times gives me an obit,
    it's going to be because of BUTCH."

    William Goldman's most famous quote is that in Hollywood, "Nobody
    knows anything."

    Well, he knew half of it. Yes, his New York Times obituary started
    out, "William Goldman ... won Academy Awards for his screenplays
    for 'Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid' and 'All the PresidentrCOs
    Men' ...

    But it went on to say, "Mr. Goldman ... was a prolific novelist as
    well, and several of his screenplays were adapted from his own
    novels, notably 'The Princess Bride' and 'Marathon Man.'" So while
    BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID was mentioned first, THE
    PRINCESS BRIDE was recognized as well.

    As for the book itself (and the film), Goldman seems oddly
    prescient.

    Florin is celebrating its 500th anniversary. The United States is
    now celebrating its 250th.

    One of the villains in THE PRINCESS BRIDE has six fingers on his
    right hand. A "photograph" of Trump praying in church was shown to
    be AI-generated when people noticed he had six fingers on his
    right hand.

    Prince Humperdinck is generating false narratives and false
    evidence to start a war with Guilder. Trump said Venezuela was
    about drugs (Venezuela is not a major supplier of drugs to the
    US), and then about regime change (though he left in place
    everyone else in Maduro's regime). So far as anyone can tell, it
    was about oil. (This is not the only current example.)

    I'm still torn between "warthog-faced baboon" and "miserable,
    vomitous mass".

    In THE TOTALLY GEEKY GUIDE TO 'THE PRINCESS BRIDE' (Lulu.com, ISBN 978-1-847-28739-7), MaryAnn Johanson writes, "When, for example,
    Princess Buttercup is in great danger, seemingly, of being eaten
    by the Shrieking Eels, the logical part of our moviegoing brains
    knows that she'll be fine, she will be safe--she has to be safe,
    because she is a major character in this story, and her story has
    not yet resolved itself in any way that satisfies what we
    unconsciously understand are the demands of storytelling; she must
    be reunited with Westley, her true love, or she must fail to be
    reunited with him through some action or fault of her own..."

    I have seen this argument put forward by other critics about other
    movies: we fear for the heroine, but we also know she will survive
    whatever peril there is, because she is the heroine.

    I have just one question for these critics: have they never seen
    PSYCHO? [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    Evelyn C. Leeper
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