• MT VOID, 12/19/25 -- Vol. 44, No. 25, Whole Number 2411

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    THE MT VOID
    12/19/25 -- Vol. 44, No. 25, Whole Number 2411

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    Topics:
    Riddle (hint)
    Mini Reviews, Part 31 (THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, DEATH BY
    LIGHTNING) (film reviews by Evelyn C. Leeper)
    RoboCop Statue Erected in Detroit (pointer to article)
    Last Call for Mass Market Paperbacks (pointer to article)
    Circumnavigating the Globe (letter of comment
    by J. T. Major)
    Pronouns (letters of comment by Hal Heydt, Steve Coltrin,
    Paul Dormer, Gary McGath, and an anonymous poster)
    Declaration of Independence Quotation (letter of comment
    by an anonymous poster)
    This Week's Reading (Christmas stories) (book comments
    by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: Riddle (hint)

    Last week I asked:

    What do Laos, Vietnam, Israel, Croatia, and possibly the United
    States have in common?

    No one got it, so the hint is that it is geographical.

    (So, no, the answer that they all have an "A" in them isn't it.)

    Next week, the answer.

    [-ecl]

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    TOPIC: Mini Reviews, Part 31 (film reviews by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    Two recent historical mini-series, one a documentary and one most
    definitely not:

    THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION (2025): For THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, Ken
    Burns did not have the benefit of photographs, or films of people
    who lived through the Civil War and survived long enough to be
    filmed. So he had to rely on paintings, and on "recreations", but
    these recreations were very carefully filmed; most consist of legs
    marching or charging, or arms and hands firing muskets, rifles,
    and artillery. You never see the faces of the re-creators. This
    makes the whole series less engaging than THE CIVIL WAR. (And of
    course most of his other documentaries are set in more modern
    times.) He has historians that provide some faces and movement,
    but none are as charismatic as Shelby Foote or Barbara Fields or
    Ed Bearss.

    It's interesting that they say who did the voices of the
    historical characters, but not which voices that each of them did.
    (Mark had more of an ear for this than I did, but even I can
    recognize Tom Hanks and Laura Linney.)

    An example of the detail in it that you don't get in history
    class: the Battle of Bunker Hill had the highest British casualty
    rate (40%) in any single battle until the First Battle of the
    Somme in WWI.

    Also, there was a lot more about Native Americans (though
    pre-independence, that term seems anachronistic),
    African-Americans (ditto), and women. Interestingly, Burns in the
    narration he wrote often uses the term "Indian", as in "Indian
    lands".

    Of course, hearing about how the British government sending troops
    into Boston was a major factor in starting the war sounds
    distressingly contemporary, and is not something encouraging to
    hear these days.

    Released streaming 16 November 2025; currently available on PBS.

    Film Credits:
    <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt35328184/reference>

    What others are saying: <https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_american_revolution>


    DEATH BY LIGHTNING (2025): DEATH BY LIGHTNING is a Netflix
    dramatic mini-series about the campaign and (brief) presidency of
    James Garfield. Any expectations of the sort of accuracy one
    expects from, say, Ken Burns's THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, was
    quickly dashed, and while Garfield's character may have been
    reasonably close to accurate, Chester Arthur is seriously
    maligned, in many ways, but in specific portraying him as a
    drunken adulterer, and also as someone who kidnapped members of
    Garfield's Cabinet. (And his wife Nell was not, as is claimed, "a
    fairly vociferous Confederate sympathizer," nor did she die before
    his election.)

    Also, Garfield and Arthur were not progressives. And I find the
    entire characterization of Guiteau questionable in terms of
    historical accuracy. The portrayal of facts of public record (such
    as his membership in the Oneida Community) are fairly accurate,
    but most, if not all, of the events that took place in private
    meetings and gatherings are probably those that have been
    described as "dramatized elements for entertainment purposes." In
    particular, the friendship portrayed between him and Arthur is a
    complete fiction.

    It has been said, and this reinforces, that Heaven help any
    student who relies on historical films and mini-series for enough
    history to pass their history exams.

    (And I know politicians use "salty language" in private, but the
    salty language in this (the MF-word, the CS-word, and the
    ever-popular F-word) were not in use until the twentieth century.
    I suppose one can argue that all the language in historical films
    is modernized to make the audience understand it better, but I
    find this incredibly over the top. Authentic nineteenth century
    swearing would make it so much more realistic.)

    ObDisclaimer: I gave up early in the third of four episodes; it
    was just too annoying to watch.

    Released streaming 06 November 2025; currently available on
    Netflix.

    Film Credits:
    <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31121364/reference>

    What others are saying:
    <https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/death_by_lightning>


    [-ecl]

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    TOPIC: RoboCop Statue Erected in Detroit (pointer to article)

    <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/04/
    robocop-statute-detroit>

    Article begins:

    "RoboCop statue rises in Detroit: 'Big, beautiful, bronze piece of
    art'

    A 15-year quest ends with a monument, drawing crowds and nostalgia
    as Detroit embraces its cult-film past

    The statue looms and glints at more than 11 feet tall and weighing
    3,500 pounds, looking out at the city with, how to put it ... a characteristically stern expression?

    Despite its daunting appearance and history as a crimefighter of
    last resort, the giant new bronze figure of the movie character
    RoboCop is being seen as a symbol of hope, drawing fans and
    eliciting selfie mania since it began standing guard over Detroit
    on Wednesday afternoon.

    It has been 15 years in the making. Even in a snowstorm in the
    dark, people were driving by to see it, said Jim Toscano, co-owner
    of the Free Age film production company, where the statue now
    stands firmly bolted down near the sidewalk."

    [Article has more information and also has a photo. -ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: Last Call for Mass Market Paperbacks (pointer to article)

    <https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/ publisher-news/article/
    99293-last-call-for-mass-market-paperbacks.html>

    "The decision made this winter by ReaderLink to stop distributing
    mass market paperback books at the end of 2025 was the latest blow
    to a format that has seen its popularity decline for years."

    ReaderLink is the largest distributor of mass market paperbacks.
    There are still a few others left: Ingram (independent bookstores,
    libraries), Baker & Taylor (libraries and schools), and Penguin
    Random House (their own imprint only; bookstores, online
    retailers). [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: Circumnavigating the Globe (letter of comment by J. T.
    Major)

    In response to various comments on circumnavigating the globe in
    the 12/12/25 issue of the MT VOID, J. T. Major writes:

    But Robin Knox-Johnston [was the first who] circumnavigated the
    globe non-stop. See his A WORLD OF MY OWN (1969) for the story.
    [-jtm]

    Evelyn writes:

    "Non-stop" is the key part of Joe's comment, in case you didn't
    catch that.

    For that matter, in the context of the original article, Reinhold
    Andreas Messner made the first solo ascent of Mount Everest and,
    along with Peter Habeler, the first ascent of Everest without
    supplementary oxygen. He was also the first to cross Antarctica
    and Greenland with neither snowmobiles nor dog sleds, and also
    crossed the Gobi Desert alone. [-Wikipedia]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: Pronouns (letters of comment by Hal Heydt, Steve Coltrin,
    Paul Dormer, Gary McGath, and an anonymous poster)

    In response to Evelyn's comments on first-person pronouns when one
    party is deceased in the 12/12/25 issue of the MT VOID, Hal Heydt
    writes:

    I suspect this problem may be common where there was a very long
    association between two people and one of them has died.
    Particularly with a long-married couple. I have similar issues
    with respect to Dorothy. And why not? We were married for 51
    years, which is still effectively 2/3 of my life. [-hh]

    Evelyn writes:

    Just about my numbers: married 52 years, am now 75. (Not counting
    the four years we were together in college, during which we spent
    all our time together.) [-ecl]

    In response to Evelyn's comments on third-person pronouns, Steve
    Coltrin writes:

    Similar to the would-be English Academy members who disparage the
    passive voice while demonstrating by clear example that they have
    no idea what it is--and often using it themselves. [-sc]

    Paul Dormer writes:

    Incidentally, I was taught at school back in the Sixties this was
    perfectly okay when referring to a person of an unknown gender. I
    think Ben Yagoda in his Not-one-off Britishisms blog call this
    epicene pronouns and they are much more common in British English.
    [-pd]

    And the anonymous poster responds:

    I don't know where I read this, but James Redekop (whoever that
    is) said, "And before anyone complains about singular 'they', just
    remember: it's older than singular 'you'." [-?]

    Paul replies:

    Good point!

    The earliest citation for singular they in the OED is 15th century,
    I recall. [-pd]

    Gary McGath writes:

    I sometimes use "they" when referring to an indefinite individual.
    However, I don't think a person should declare oneself a committee.

    In the dystopia of Ayn Rand's ANTHEM, plural pronouns are used
    exclusively, and using a first person singular pronoun is a
    capital crime. Most people don't know such pronouns ever existed.
    [-gmg]

    Hal adds:

    In Graydon Saunders's "Commonweal" series, "they"/"them" is used
    for persons who are not intimate partners. [-hh]

    Evelyn responds:

    This reminds me of THE DISPOSSESSED by Ursula K. LeGuin, where
    first person singular possessive pronouns are anathema. As I wrote
    (in the MTVOID of 02/25/2022):

    LeGuin writes, "The singular forms of the possessive pronoun were
    used mostly for emphasis; idiom avoided them. Little children
    might say 'my mother,' but very soon they learned to say 'the
    mother.' Instead of 'my hand hurts,' it was 'the hand hurts me,'
    and so on; to say 'this one is mine and that's yours' in Pravic
    [the artificial language constructed for Anarres], one said , 'I
    use this one and you use that.'"

    But why would little children say 'my mother' unless they hear not
    just one person, but everyone around them saying it? And for that
    matter, why would Pravic--an invented language--even have the
    words "my", "mine", and so on?

    There are many uses of "his" in sections told from the main
    (Anarresti) character's point of view. The ones in narrative can
    be passed over, but there are also ones in dialogue, e.g., "He was
    in terrible pain, mostly from his hands." At one point he says
    something is "in my head", though at another he says, "The head is
    heavy." He also refers to "my teacher".

    It's true that some of these are after he has been on Urras a
    while: "He was accustomed to the constant use of the possessive
    pronoun by now, and spoke it without self-consciousness."

    Still, "I will do my own work for a while now!" seems an
    incredibly propertarian assertion for a lifelong Odonian.

    One problem is that the "possessive" pronoun does not always
    express possession. Another is that they can express possession in
    a non-propertarian sense. For example, "my house" expresses
    possession in a propertarian sense. "My age" does not express
    possession. And "my head" expresses possession, but in a
    non-propertarian sense. [-ecl]

    [Further discussion of third person pronouns and ambiguity may be
    found in rec.arts.sf.fandom. I will note that first person plural
    pronouns also have an ambiguity problem, namely, whether they
    include the listener or not. -ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: Declaration of Independence Quotation (letter of comment by
    an anonymous poster)

    In response to the quotation from the Declaration of Independence
    in the 12/12/25 issue of the MT VOID, an anonymous poster adds:

    "He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and
    necessary for the public good. ... He has endeavoured to prevent
    the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the
    Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to
    encourage their migrations hither ..."

    Evelyn responds:

    I have no idea how I could have missed something so apt! [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: This Week's Reading (book comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    I will once again give you my recommended Christmas reading list,
    with one addition:

    "Happy Birthday, Dear Jesus" by Frederik Pohl
    "'Tis the Season" by China Mieville
    "Newton's Mass" by Timothy Esaias
    "The Star" by Arthur C. Clarke
    "Rebuttal" by Betsy Curtis
    "Helium" by Parisa Tabriz

    The ISFDb can help you find these. ("Helium" can be found at <https://dr1.com/forums/threads/he-is-everywhere.101959/>).

    You'll notice none of Connie Willis's Christmas stories are here.
    They are a bit too syrupy for the anthology I am putting together
    in my mind. You can find these in A LOT LIKE CHRISTMAS (an
    expanded edition of MIRACLE AND OTHER CHRISTMAS STORIES), which I
    reviewed in the 12/24/21 issue of the MT VOID. See my review of
    THE BEST OF FREDERIK POHL in the 09/04/09 issue of the MT VOID for
    more comments on some of these stories. Or find these (and all my
    on-line reviews) at <http://leepers.us/evelyn/reviews.htm>. [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    Evelyn C. Leeper
    evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com


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    of a few scientific discoveries he has established
    a society which has mistaken comfort for civilization.
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  • From djheydt@djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Sun Dec 21 19:47:26 2025
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    In article <10i8qtn$2n9rf$1@dont-email.me>,
    Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
    THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION (2025): For THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, Ken
    Burns did not have the benefit of photographs, or films of people
    who lived through the Civil War and survived long enough to be
    filmed. So he had to rely on paintings, and on "recreations", but
    these recreations were very carefully filmed; most consist of legs
    marching or charging, or arms and hands firing muskets, rifles,
    and artillery. You never see the faces of the re-creators. This
    makes the whole series less engaging than THE CIVIL WAR. (And of
    course most of his other documentaries are set in more modern
    times.) He has historians that provide some faces and movement,
    but none are as charismatic as Shelby Foote or Barbara Fields or
    Ed Bearss.

    [Hal Heydt]

    I don't suppose he included a Capt. William Hall and the ship he
    commanded, the Brig'o'War Notre Dame?
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  • From Evelyn C. Leeper@evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Sun Dec 21 16:56:41 2025
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    On 12/21/25 14:47, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <10i8qtn$2n9rf$1@dont-email.me>,
    Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
    THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION (2025): For THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, Ken
    Burns did not have the benefit of photographs, or films of people
    who lived through the Civil War and survived long enough to be
    filmed. So he had to rely on paintings, and on "recreations", but
    these recreations were very carefully filmed; most consist of legs
    marching or charging, or arms and hands firing muskets, rifles,
    and artillery. You never see the faces of the re-creators. This
    makes the whole series less engaging than THE CIVIL WAR. (And of
    course most of his other documentaries are set in more modern
    times.) He has historians that provide some faces and movement,
    but none are as charismatic as Shelby Foote or Barbara Fields or
    Ed Bearss.

    [Hal Heydt]

    I don't suppose he included a Capt. William Hall and the ship he
    commanded, the Brig'o'War Notre Dame?

    Given that Google and other searches turn up no references to a captain
    of this name commanding a ship of this name at all, I doubt it was included.
    --
    Evelyn C. Leeper, http://leepers.us/evelyn
    Golden ages always shine more brightly from a distance. --Jack Shafer
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  • From djheydt@djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Sun Dec 21 23:37:45 2025
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    In article <10i9qep$323ru$1@dont-email.me>,
    Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 12/21/25 14:47, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
    In article <10i8qtn$2n9rf$1@dont-email.me>,
    Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
    THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION (2025): For THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, Ken
    Burns did not have the benefit of photographs, or films of people
    who lived through the Civil War and survived long enough to be
    filmed. So he had to rely on paintings, and on "recreations", but
    these recreations were very carefully filmed; most consist of legs
    marching or charging, or arms and hands firing muskets, rifles,
    and artillery. You never see the faces of the re-creators. This
    makes the whole series less engaging than THE CIVIL WAR. (And of
    course most of his other documentaries are set in more modern
    times.) He has historians that provide some faces and movement,
    but none are as charismatic as Shelby Foote or Barbara Fields or
    Ed Bearss.

    [Hal Heydt]

    I don't suppose he included a Capt. William Hall and the ship he
    commanded, the Brig'o'War Notre Dame?

    Given that Google and other searches turn up no references to a captain
    of this name commanding a ship of this name at all, I doubt it was included.

    --
    Evelyn C. Leeper, http://leepers.us/evelyn
    Golden ages always shine more brightly from a distance. --Jack Shafer

    [Hal Heydt]

    Portrait of Capt. Hall: https://www.charlestonMuseum.org/research/collection/captain-william-hall/C6817C6A-A013-4A49-8CC3-475248257440

    Googling on "Brig'o'War Notre Dame" gets one to: https://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_ship&id=13336
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