• Blog post on antisemitism in fandom

    From Gary McGath@garym@mcgath.com to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Thu Nov 6 09:41:50 2025
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    In 2024 there were a couple of antisemitic incidents connected with
    fannish awards and conventions. I haven't heard of anything on that
    scale recently, but it's something to be aware of. I've written a blog
    post on the issue.

    https://garymcgath.com/antisemitism-in-sff-fandom/

    Here's the content of the post, without links:


    In 2024, there were some disturbing actions in science fiction/fantasy
    fandom against people who are from Israel or support its existence. IrCOve blogged about some of them before. Vancouver Comics Arts Festival banned
    an artist for being Israeli. A statement by the convention berated the
    earlier organizers for their rCLignorancerCY in inviting someone who had served in IsraelrCOs armed forces in the early 2000s. The CRIT awards put
    a blanket exclusion on nominating anyone who supports Zionism (i.e.,
    supports the existence of a Jewish state). Both sets of bigots got
    slapped down and are now being less public, but theyrCOve shown that the problem exists in fandom.

    IrCOm not Jewish, but IrCOm part of northeastern filk fandom, which has a heavy Jewish component. Till recently, I was the only non-Jewish officer
    of MASSFILC, and at one point I was the token goy on a con committee.
    IrCOm aware of the issues. There have been online discussions by Jewish
    fans about the hostility theyrCOve experienced.

    Clear lines are important. It isnrCOt antisemitism to criticize IsraelrCOs conduct in Gaza or even to think establishing the modern nation of
    Israel was a bad idea. But it is to ban people for being Israeli or
    supporting IsraelrCOs existence, especially when thatrCOs the only category thatrCOs banned.

    How much of this is happening? I havenrCOt found other documented
    incidents besides those two, but IrCOm inclined to think that where there
    are two that have gotten attention, more must be hiding out of view. The Vancouver event banned the artist because of rCLactivists protesting the individualrCOs presence in a manner that caused concern for the safety of
    our volunteers, staff, and exhibitors.rCY Banning people rCLfor their protectionrCY is disgusting, but it tells us that other people were acting dangerously. Or maybe that the organizers invented a threat where there wasnrCOt one; that happens too. IrCOve run into a claim that Tel Aviv is in rCLoccupied Palestine,rCY in the context of a Worldcon bid, since withdrawn, for that city. (Hebrews or Judaeans or whatever they were called at
    different times have lived in that area continuously since a rather
    large number BC.)

    The parts of fandom IrCOve involved in skew toward older people who are
    well read, and the antisemitism seems to come more from younger fan
    groups. Antisemitism has lately been increasing in younger demographic
    groups. A lot of people in that demographic also like to call anyone
    they disagree with a rCLNazi.rCY Make whatever sense you can of that.

    IrCOm not advocating panic, but in fandom we need to recognize bigotry
    when we see it and call it out.
    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Sat Nov 8 15:07:48 2025
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    On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 09:41:50 -0500, Gary McGath wrote:

    Clear lines are important. It isnrCOt antisemitism to criticize IsraelrCOs conduct in Gaza or even to think establishing the modern nation of
    Israel was a bad idea. But it is to ban people for being Israeli or supporting IsraelrCOs existence, especially when thatrCOs the only category thatrCOs banned.


    Don't know why your bring this here, but...

    People aren't banned for being Israeli or supporting Israel's existence.
    They are banned because they refuse to take a stance against Israel's
    actions concerning the genocide in Gaza and/or because they support the
    IDF that is committing these war crimes.

    BTW the word 'antisemitic' has lost all of its meaning nowadays due to
    people like Netanyahu who cry 'antisemitic' every time someone takes a
    position against Israel (not the Jews in particular, but Israel as a
    _state_). People who dare doing this are either wrongfully labeled as 'antisemitic' or 'pro Hamas'. Usually even both in the same sentence.
    This is only to distract of is really going on: a genocide and the
    creation of a 'Greater Israel', something that Netanyahu, wanted by the
    ICC for war crimes, supports.
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  • From Gary McGath@garym@mcgath.com to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Sat Nov 8 16:57:35 2025
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    On 11/8/25 9:07 AM, s|b wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 09:41:50 -0500, Gary McGath wrote:

    Clear lines are important. It isnrCOt antisemitism to criticize IsraelrCOs >> conduct in Gaza or even to think establishing the modern nation of
    Israel was a bad idea. But it is to ban people for being Israeli or
    supporting IsraelrCOs existence, especially when thatrCOs the only category >> thatrCOs banned.


    Don't know why your bring this here, but...

    People aren't banned for being Israeli or supporting Israel's existence.
    They are banned because they refuse to take a stance against Israel's
    actions concerning the genocide in Gaza and/or because they support the
    IDF that is committing these war crimes.

    This person tried to put the same words into a comment on my blog post.
    I don't allow lies there.

    Neither of the two organizations I cited claimed refusal to make a
    statement or support for the IDF as the reason for the exclusion. The Vancouver Comics Arts Festival gave two different stories. First they
    claimed that Libicki was banned for having been in the Israeli military
    (which is obligatory for citizens) long before the current conflict.
    Later they changed their statement to claim it was because of "public
    safety concerns."

    The CRIT Awards banned anyone who supported Zionism, which means
    supporting the existence of Israel.

    But let's suppose they did ban people for the absence of making a
    statement. I've never heard of non-Jews being required to express their opinion on the Gaza war as a condition of being considered for an award
    or admitted to an event. We'd be talking about a special requirement
    imposed on Jews. And maybe you'd want a yellow star, just to be safe?>
    BTW the word 'antisemitic' has lost all of its meaning nowadays due to
    people like Netanyahu who cry 'antisemitic' every time someone takes a position against Israel (not the Jews in particular, but Israel as a _state_). People who dare doing this are either wrongfully labeled as 'antisemitic' or 'pro Hamas'. Usually even both in the same sentence.
    This is only to distract of is really going on: a genocide and the
    creation of a 'Greater Israel', something that Netanyahu, wanted by the
    ICC for war crimes, supports.

    The bans I cited weren't directed against any state, but against people
    who are from that state or favor its existence. The word "antisemitic" continues to have a clear meaning, and it applies to you for all your
    verbal gymnastics.

    Don't ever try to dump your dirt on my blog again.
    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com
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