• MT VOID, 10/24/25 -- Vol. 44, No. 17, Whole Number 2403

    From Evelyn C. Leeper@evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Sun Oct 26 09:53:11 2025
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    THE MT VOID
    10/24/25 -- Vol. 44, No. 17, Whole Number 2403

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    Topics:
    Mini Reviews, Part 25 (NINETEEN EIGHTY-FOUR (1954),
    THE YEAR OF THE SEX OLYMPICS, THE STONE TAPE)
    (film comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)
    "Computing... There I Was" (new podcast)
    Harry Lime and the Cuckoo Clock (comments
    by Evelyn C. Leeper)
    A Trip to Mars (pointer)
    Crackpots, Issue 2400, THE DIVINE COMEDY, Colonitis,
    and Freedom (letter of comment by John Hertz)
    MUNCHHAUSEN (letter of comment by Paul Dormer)
    This Week's Reading ("Very Short Introduction" series)
    (book comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: Mini Reviews, Part 25 (film comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    Terry Frost recommended a film written by Nigel Kneale, THE
    ABOMINABLE SNOWMAN, but rather than commenting on that film, I
    will talk about three of Nigel Kneale's television plays for the
    BBC.

    NINETEEN EIGHTY-FOUR (1954): This starred Peter Cushing (as
    Winston Smith) before he became a big Hammer star. One bit that
    resonated with current events is when Winston Smith is re-writing
    old news reports to say that Big Brother claimed the enemy would
    take place where it actually did rather than where he originally
    (and incorrectly) claimed he would, and when the reduction of the
    chocolate ration was described as an increase.

    Actually, there are a lot of bits that resonate with current
    events. Alas.

    The show was considered so horrifying and graphic at the time that
    questions were raised in Parliament about it. By today's
    standards, of course, it would probably get a PG-13.

    It is available at archive.org. (Avoid the colorized version.)
    Released televised 12 December 1954.

    Film Credits:
    <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14473100/reference>


    THE YEAR OF THE SEX OLYMPICS (1968): Set in a future when war,
    conflict, and other "tensions" have been banished, and the
    government controls the population by broadcasting sex (and the
    Sex Olympics) and telling people to "watch, not do." (They do the
    same with food.)

    And then when a protester dies and the audience responds, the
    government invents what is basically "Survivor": three people on a
    (supposedly) deserted island, and various threats against them.
    Given that they have no idea even how to start a fire, or grow
    food, this seems a bit redundant.

    And whenever something bad happens, the only audience reaction is
    laughter, because they have never learned any other emotions.

    (It is true that CANDID CAMERA predated THE YEAR OF THE SEX
    OLYMPICS, but that was a fairly minimal version of a reality show.
    Not until AN AMERICAN FAMILY in 1973 did the reality show become a
    full-fledged genre.)

    THE YEAR OF THE SEX OLYMPICS is available at archive.org. (Avoid
    the colorized version.)

    Released televised 29 July 1968.

    Film Credits:
    <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0142001/reference>


    THE STONE TAPE (1972): THE STONE TAPE was a 1972 "Christmas ghost
    story" by Nigel Kneale broadcast on the BBC. The "ghost", how it
    is described by witnesses, how people react to it, and so on, bear
    a strong resemblance to those elements in Kneale's 1958 BBC play
    QUATERMASS AND THE PIT and its 1967 movie version.

    We start with a bunch of "tech bros", and Kneale was very
    prescient here: they are every bit as obnoxious as the ones are
    now. They are moving into an old house to develop a new recording
    medium, but one, the house is much older than they think, and two,
    it seems to be "haunted".

    At one time, this and THE YEAR OF THE SEX OLYMPICS were very
    difficult to find, especially on this side of the Pond. Now that
    the BBC is releasing most (all?) of their ouvre, it is easier to
    see these works by the author who was known pretty much only as
    the creator of Quatermass.

    (Kneale also did the script for SHARPE'S GOLD, and it was a doozy.
    He added an entire subplot of a tribe of Aztecs surviving in caves
    in Spain. Back in the day when the History Channel was the
    *History* Channel, they ran the "Sharpe" series with Sander
    Vanocur interviewing Bernard Cornwell about each episode. When
    Vanocur asked Cornwell why he had included Aztecs, Cornwell was
    quick to emphasize that *he* never wrote *that*.)

    Released televised 25 December 1972.

    Film Credits:
    <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069316/reference>


    [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: Harry Lime and the Cuckoo Clock (comments by Evelyn
    C. Leeper)

    In the film THE THIRD MAN, Harry Lime makes a speech contrasting
    Italy and Switzerland. This speech was written by Orson Welles,
    not Graham Greene, and is very dramatic and perhaps even
    convincing. But Lime (Welles) was wrong in what he is saying:

    "... in Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had
    warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced
    Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In
    Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years
    of democracy and peace--and what did that produce? The cuckoo
    clock."

    Lime does not specify what 500 years he is referring to, but in
    terms of parallels to fifty years of the Italy of the Borgias he
    is conveniently certainly overlooking the religious wars in
    Switzerland between 1529 and 1531. For that matter, trying to find
    a 500-year period of peace in Switzerland, one has to dodge the
    wars in which it was involved in 1315, 1386, 1422, 1440, 1474,
    1499, 1511, 1653, 1656, 1712, 1798, 1799, 1802, 1806, 1809, 1813,
    1815, 1830, 1847, ... There is no 500-year period of democracy and
    peace. (John Calvin's government in the 1540s in Geneva was not a
    democracy.)

    (Also, it is generally believed that the cuckoo clock was invented
    in Germany.)

    [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: "Computing... There I Was" (new podcast)

    Member Richie Beilek has started a new podcast of interviews with
    people who have been in computing for a long time:

    <https://rss.com/podcasts/computing-there-i-was/ ?_gl=1%2az6hs4q%2a_gcl_au%2aMTc5NzMyNzg0LjE3NTY4NTk4MTI>.

    [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: A Trip to Mars (pointer)

    The New York Times reports on the 28th Annual International Mars
    Society Convention:

    "A Trip to Mars? TheyrCOre Ready to Go.

    "Fans of the red planet joined scientists at an annual conference
    sponsored by the Mars Society. One attendee said he would take a
    'one-way ticket.'" [-nyt]

    Full article (*not* paywalled) at
    <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/15/style/ mars-society-convention.html?unlocked_article_code= 1.uk8.anzQ.njPNHeJoFkgL&smid=url-share>

    However, I think that link is good for only thirty days (from
    10/19 in this case). The paywalled link is at <https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/15/style/
    mars-society-convention.html>

    [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: Crackpots, Issue 2400, THE DIVINE COMEDY, Colonitis, and
    Freedom (letter of comment by John Hertz)

    In response to Mark's quote in the 09/26/25 issue of the MT VOID,
    John Hertz writes:

    [Mark wrote,] "A sufficiently advanced scientist is
    indistinguishable from a crackpot." [-mrl]

    One of Jerry Pournelle's notions was that 10% of any funding
    should be given to contrarians.

    Also Ignaz Semmelweiss comes to mind. [-jh]

    In response to the 09/26/25 issue of the MT VOID, John writes:

    Hurrah for No. 2400! [-jh]

    In response to Evelyn's comments on Dante's INFERNO in the
    10/03/25 issue of the MT VOID, John writes:

    Whose tr.? I recommend Dorothy L. Sayers' tr. of THE DIVINE
    COMEDY. Even Gillian Polack, sore at the liberties DLS admittedly
    took to achieve "terza rima" (note that I use the term "achieve"),
    agreed with me that the notes are superb. [-jh]

    Evelyn responds:

    The particular translation I just bought is by Robert M. Durling,
    but I already had Sayers's (of the entire DIVINE COMEDY), as well
    as John Ciardi's of THE INFERNO. I also have H. F. Carey's
    translation from Project Gutenberg. [-ecl]

    In response to Evelyn's comments on THE PITY OF IT ALL: A PORTRAIT
    OF THE GERMAN-JEWISH EPOCH 1743-1933 by Amos Elon in the same
    issue, John writes:

    I haven't gotten to this yet. I do wish Brother Elon hadn't (i)
    succumbed to colonitis--a title so catchy as to be
    incomprehensible, followed by a colon and the real title; (ii)
    said "epoch" when he meant "era". [-jh]

    Evelyn responds:

    I thought I had commented at some point on the distressing
    occurrence of what John calls "colonitis", but I cannot locate the
    article now. It may be okay when the books are "face-out" in a
    bookstore, but when one is looking over the spines (as one does in
    a used book store), the catchy title is pretty much useless. A
    particularly egregious example is Doris Kearns Goodwin, who has
    TEAM OF RIVALS: THE POLITICAL GENIUS OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN; THE BULLY
    PULPIT: THEODORE ROOSEVELT, WILLIAM HOWARD TAFT, AND THE GOLDEN
    AGE OF JOURNALISM; and (in a burst of double colonitis) NO
    ORDINARY TIME: FRANKLIN AND ELEANOR ROOSEVELT: THE HOME FRONT IN
    WORLD WAR II. (One can argue that the term "bully pulpit" gives at
    least some hint as to the content of the second book in the list.
    [-ecl]

    In response to Adlai Stevenson's quote in the same issue, John
    Hertz writes:

    [Adlai Stevenson said,] "A free society is one where it is safe to
    be unpopular." [-as]

    "freedom for the thought we hate", United States vs. Schwimmer,
    279 U.S. 644, 655 (1929) (Holmes, J., dissenting) [-jh]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: MUNCHHAUSEN (letter of comment by Paul Dormer)

    In response to Evelyn's comments on MUNCHHAUSEN in the 10/17/25
    issue of the MT VOID, Paul Dormer writes:

    [SLIGHT SPOILER]

    This turned up on the BBC one afternoon many years ago and I have
    since got the DVD. The opening sequence, with its amusing reveal,
    really got me.

    As the IMDb says, Erich Kastner, author of EMIL AND THE
    DETECTIVES, wrote the screenplay under a pseudonym, although no
    credit is given. It's said that as Goebbels commissioned the
    film, he and the director decided to make a film about a liar as
    big as Goebbels. [-pd]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: This Week's Reading (book comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    The "Very Short Introduction" series is a series from the Oxford
    University Press of literally hundreds of books about almost every
    subject you can think of (and probably a lot you cannot).
    (Examples include advertising, astrobiology, cancer, Druids,
    family law, privacy, rivers, and work.) (There are 824 in the
    latest list I could find, including the scheduled but not yet
    published volumes.) They are 4.5 inches by 7 inches (or 11cm by
    17.5cm), and about 150 pages each, give or take. As I had noted, I
    picked up about fifteen of these recently and am working my way
    through them chronologically. So far I have read "Classics" and
    "History", and am now reading "The Ancient Near East", to be
    followed by "Ancient Assyria". "Classics" is not about *the*
    classics, as in just literature, but rather the entire field of
    study about the Greeks and Romans, and in particular focuses on a
    specific temple in an isolated part of Greece, its origins,
    purpose, uses, etc.

    I am also working my way through the dozen or so Great Courses I
    have recently bought. In the car, I am listening to "The Joy of
    Science" (60 lessons). I have just finished "Foundations of
    Western Civilization" on DVD, and am now watching "The History of
    Science Antiquity-1700" (36 lessons), to be followed by "The
    History of Science 1700-1900" (also 36 lessons).

    And then there's BABYLON 5. (I'm in Season 4.) After that, THE
    SOPRANOS is waiting in the wings.

    All this has cut into my *film* watching. This is a real change in
    lifestyle; I find myself weirdly feeling guilty if I don't watch
    at least one movie a day. I realize this makes no sense, but over
    forty years of dedicated film watching with Mark (dating from when
    we got our first VCR) makes it seem like a fixture.

    I therefore find myself adding films to my to-watch list and then
    eventually realizing that it isn't that I *want* to watch them,
    but that I feel that I should.

    (Obviously, I am still watching enough to write the mini-review
    columns, so I haven't given up entirely.) [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    Evelyn C. Leeper
    evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com


    A Galileo could no more be elected president of the
    United States than he could be elected Pope of Rome.
    Both high posts are reserved for men favored by God
    with an extraordinary genius for swathing the bitter
    facts of life in bandages of self-illusion.
    --H. L. Mencken
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  • From prd@prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Sun Oct 26 15:14:00 2025
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    In article <10dl947$tqe$1@dont-email.me>, evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com (Evelyn C. Leeper) wrote:


    NINETEEN EIGHTY-FOUR (1954): This starred Peter Cushing (as
    Winston Smith) before he became a big Hammer star.

    I was amused to see when the Laurel and Hardy comedy A Chump at Oxford
    appeared on TV many years ago that one of the students is played by
    Cushing, in what the IMDb gives as his second film role.
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  • From Cryptoengineer@petertrei@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Tue Oct 28 13:44:04 2025
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    On 10/26/2025 9:53 AM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:
    THE MT VOID
    10/24/25 -- Vol. 44, No. 17, Whole Number 2403
    [...]
    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: Mini Reviews, Part 25 (film comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)
    [...]

    THE STONE TAPE (1972): THE STONE TAPE was a 1972 "Christmas ghost
    story" by Nigel Kneale broadcast on the BBC. The "ghost", how it
    is described by witnesses, how people react to it, and so on, bear
    a strong resemblance to those elements in Kneale's 1958 BBC play
    QUATERMASS AND THE PIT and its 1967 movie version.

    We start with a bunch of "tech bros", and Kneale was very
    prescient here: they are every bit as obnoxious as the ones are
    now. They are moving into an old house to develop a new recording
    medium, but one, the house is much older than they think, and two,
    it seems to be "haunted".

    I saw this when it was first broadcast (I was living in England
    then). I was 15, and found it genuinely scary.

    [...]
    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: "Computing... There I Was" (new podcast)

    Member Richie Beilek has started a new podcast of interviews with
    people who have been in computing for a long time:

    <https://rss.com/podcasts/computing-there-i-was/ ?_gl=1%2az6hs4q%2a_gcl_au%2aMTc5NzMyNzg0LjE3NTY4NTk4MTI>.

    [-ecl]


    That's 'Bielak'. I've known him for years, and he's the guy
    who got me started as a professional programmer, hiring a
    Biochemistry major without a CS degree.

    I'll have to check that out.

    =====================> TOPIC: This Week's Reading (book comments by
    Evelyn C. Leeper)
    [...]

    And then there's BABYLON 5. (I'm in Season 4.) After that, THE
    SOPRANOS is waiting in the wings.

    All this has cut into my *film* watching. This is a real change in
    lifestyle; I find myself weirdly feeling guilty if I don't watch
    at least one movie a day. I realize this makes no sense, but over
    forty years of dedicated film watching with Mark (dating from when
    we got our first VCR) makes it seem like a fixture.

    I therefore find myself adding films to my to-watch list and then
    eventually realizing that it isn't that I *want* to watch them,
    but that I feel that I should.

    (Obviously, I am still watching enough to write the mini-review
    columns, so I haven't given up entirely.) [-ecl]
    Let me add to your burden. Watch Andor (on Disney TV). Yes,
    its Star Wars, but its the best written SW show ever made.

    You can think of it as 8 movies if it makes you feel better,
    with 24 episodes set up as 3 episode arcs.

    So much thought and care went into this (as well as a
    very high budget), that it is equal, and perhaps better,
    than the original trilogy.

    If you're doubtful, check the reviews on YT.

    pt

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  • From Steve Coltrin@spcoltri@omcl.org to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Wed Oct 29 08:42:17 2025
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    begin fnord
    Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:

    Let me add to your burden. Watch Andor (on Disney TV). Yes,
    its Star Wars, but its the best written SW show ever made.

    You can think of it as 8 movies if it makes you feel better,
    with 24 episodes set up as 3 episode arcs.

    So much thought and care went into this (as well as a
    very high budget), that it is equal, and perhaps better,
    than the original trilogy.

    I wholeheartedly agree with every word of this, and strongly suggest
    following _Andor_ immediately with _Rogue One_, which continues the
    story almost seamlessly.

    (There's an episode of _Rebels_ that continues a different thread of the
    last arc of _Andor_, but that's a whole different rabbit hole to jump
    down. The first few episodes of _Rebels_ seems aimed at children, but
    it grows up the hard way alongside one of the characters... and it leads
    into _Ahsoka_ the way _Andor_ leads into _Rogue One_.

    (And _Ahsoka_ builds on _Clone Wars_, which, believe it or not,
    justifies the existence of Episodes II and III. (Nothing can justify
    the existence of Episode I. It's worse than the Holiday Special.))
    --
    Steve Coltrin spcoltri@omcl.org
    "A group known as the League of Human Dignity helped arrange for Deuel
    to be driven to a local livestock scale, where he could be weighed."
    - Associated Press
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  • From Bernard Peek@bap@shrdlu.com to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Thu Oct 30 20:14:12 2025
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    On 2025-10-28, Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

    TOPIC: Mini Reviews, Part 25 (film comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)
    [...]

    THE STONE TAPE (1972): THE STONE TAPE was a 1972 "Christmas ghost
    story" by Nigel Kneale broadcast on the BBC. The "ghost", how it
    is described by witnesses, how people react to it, and so on, bear
    a strong resemblance to those elements in Kneale's 1958 BBC play
    QUATERMASS AND THE PIT and its 1967 movie version.

    We start with a bunch of "tech bros", and Kneale was very
    prescient here: they are every bit as obnoxious as the ones are
    now. They are moving into an old house to develop a new recording
    medium, but one, the house is much older than they think, and two,
    it seems to be "haunted".

    I saw this when it was first broadcast (I was living in England
    then). I was 15, and found it genuinely scary.

    I still find it really scary.
    --
    Bernard Peek
    bap@shrdlu.com
    Wigan
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  • From prd@prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Fri Oct 31 17:06:00 2025
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    In article <mmhv8kFktbrU1@mid.individual.net>, bap@shrdlu.com (Bernard
    Peek) wrote:

    I saw this when it was first broadcast (I was living in England
    then). I was 15, and found it genuinely scary.

    I still find it really scary.


    The science fiction nerd in me thought there was too much hand waving on
    the technical details. Mind you, I haven't seen it since it was first broadcast.

    Kneale was at Seacon in Brighton in 1979 and his view of SF fans led to
    his sitcom Kinvig - not very flattering.
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