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On 10/22/2025 3:07 PM, The True Doctor wrote:

The woke believe in controlling what everyone else says, thinks, and
does. They don't believe in free speech and discussion of anything that
is different to them. They are both Cybermen and Daleks.

Projecting much?
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On 10/22/2025 2:49 PM, The True Melissa wrote:

In article <10d8s44$75th$1@dont-email.me>,
YourName@YourISP.com says...

Paul McGann doesn't count either

Why doesn't he count?

Melissa

Speculation: None of the rest of the Big Finish stuff counts.
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On 10/22/2025 4:02 PM, Your Name wrote:

On 2025-10-22 21:49:38 +0000, The True Melissa said:

In article <10d8s44$75th$1@dont-email.me>,
YourName@YourISP.com says...

Paul McGann doesn't count either

Why doesn't he count?


Melissa

The movie was simply Americanised garbage in an attempt to "break into"
the US market ... and failed spectacularly on all fronts.

He's not counted because of the movie, but because of the short piece
before "The Day of The Doctor" that ended with his regeneration into
John Hurt.
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In article <10db9jt$r6gp$1@dont-email.me>,
Tim Merrigan <tppm@rr.ca.com> wrote:

On 10/22/2025 6:53 AM, The Doctor wrote:

IYIO

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Tim Merrigan

-+Kay es IYIO?

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Tim Merrigan

The Opposite of IMHO.

Thanks. I knew, from context, that it was an insult, but how is
"ignorant" the opposite of "humble" (or "arrogant", for that matter)?

And how is the h an antonym to m?

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In article <MPG.43631c2f79f103349896a7@reader80.eternal-september.org>,
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

In article <10d95f6$29oh$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca says...

RTD continued with the Timeless Child hence his downfall.

That era was a failure before the Timeless Child arc,
IMO.

Melissa

The Timeless Child Should have been retconned then.
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In article <10dbnpl$vef3$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

On 2025-10-22 21:49:38 +0000, The True Melissa said:

In article <10d8s44$75th$1@dont-email.me>,
YourName@YourISP.com says...

Paul McGann doesn't count either

Why doesn't he count?


Melissa

The movie was simply Americanised garbage in an attempt to "break into"
the US market ... and failed spectacularly on all fronts.

IYIO.
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In article <10dbv43$126fb$3@dont-email.me>,
Tim Merrigan <tppm@rr.ca.com> wrote:

On 10/22/2025 4:02 PM, Your Name wrote:

On 2025-10-22 21:49:38 +0000, The True Melissa said:

In article <10d8s44$75th$1@dont-email.me>,
YourName@YourISP.com says...

Paul McGann doesn't count either

Why doesn't he count?


Melissa

The movie was simply Americanised garbage in an attempt to "break into"
the US market ... and failed spectacularly on all fronts.

He's not counted because of the movie, but because of the short piece
before "The Day of The Doctor" that ended with his regeneration into
John Hurt.

IYIO.

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In article <xn0pccrvzabds4z001@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

The Doctor wrote:

In article <xn0pcccd65cf7q5002@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

Keith F. Lynch wrote:

Again, please keep the Dr. Who slop out of the
rec.arts.sf.fandom newsgroup. That's a low-volume
newsgroup for discussing fandom itself, meaning coventions
and the people who attend and run them, and fanzines and
the people who write and publish them.

What about the newsgroups that discuss these shows, are they
not a part of "fandom" too? I mean, a fan writing something
about a sci-fi show for a fanzine or in a Usenet post is
pretty similar. A newsgroup could even be considered an
online fanzine!

In recent days the unwanted Dr. Who slop has exceeded all
other traffic in that newsgroup, threatening to destroy it.

How can traffic destroy a newsgroup? Traffic keeps it alive.
You are free to use filters or killfiles to ignore the
posts/posters that you don't want to see and/or read though.

Also, who decides what content is wanted and unwanted on any
specific newsgroup? Surely the readers of any newsgroup
exercise their own judgement by using the aforesaid filter
mechanisms to decide what content they read, or ignore?

Lynch is being irrational as usual.

No Dave, he's posting his opinion. Which is what discussions
on Usenet are supposed to be about. You know, people discussing
things reasonably, like adults. Or maybe you don't know...

I just object, in principle, to people who think they own a
certain newsgroup, especially when they seem to have no problem
starting off-topic threads in it themself!

I didn't say he was completely wrong though, I was just putting
across my POV.

And then there is Lynch.
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In article <10dbugf$126fb$1@dont-email.me>,
Tim Merrigan <tppm@rr.ca.com> wrote:

On 10/22/2025 3:07 PM, The True Doctor wrote:

The woke believe in controlling what everyone else says, thinks, and
does. They don't believe in free speech and discussion of anything that
is different to them. They are both Cybermen and Daleks.

Projecting much?

Stoking flames?

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On 23/10/2025 7:01 am, Blueshirt wrote:

The Doctor wrote:

In article <xn0pcccd65cf7q5002@post.eweka.nl>, Blueshirt
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

Keith F. Lynch wrote:

Again, please keep the Dr. Who slop out of the
rec.arts.sf.fandom newsgroup. That's a low-volume newsgroup for
discussing fandom itself, meaning coventions and the people who
attend and run them, and fanzines and the people who write and
publish them.

What about the newsgroups that discuss these shows, are they not
a part of "fandom" too? I mean, a fan writing something about a
sci-fi show for a fanzine or in a Usenet post is pretty similar.
A newsgroup could even be considered an online fanzine!

In recent days the unwanted Dr. Who slop has exceeded all other
traffic in that newsgroup, threatening to destroy it.

How can traffic destroy a newsgroup? Traffic keeps it alive. You
are free to use filters or killfiles to ignore the posts/posters
that you don't want to see and/or read though.

Also, who decides what content is wanted and unwanted on any
specific newsgroup? Surely the readers of any newsgroup exercise
their own judgement by using the aforesaid filter mechanisms to
decide what content they read, or ignore?

Lynch is being irrational as usual.

No Dave, he's posting his opinion. Which is what discussions on
Usenet are supposed to be about. You know, people discussing things reasonably, like adults. Or maybe you don't know...

I just object, in principle, to people who think they own a certain newsgroup,

... but ... but ... but this newsgroup appears on Binky's news-server so
he MUST OWN IT, surely!! ;-P

especially when they seem to have no problem starting off-topic
threads in it themself!

I didn't say he was completely wrong though, I was just putting
across my POV.

As we ALL can do. If we don't like the views expressed ... KILL-FILE
that poster!!
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In article <10dcr2k$1haci$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 23/10/2025 7:01 am, Blueshirt wrote:

The Doctor wrote:

In article <xn0pcccd65cf7q5002@post.eweka.nl>, Blueshirt
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

Keith F. Lynch wrote:

Again, please keep the Dr. Who slop out of the
rec.arts.sf.fandom newsgroup. That's a low-volume newsgroup for
discussing fandom itself, meaning coventions and the people who
attend and run them, and fanzines and the people who write and
publish them.

What about the newsgroups that discuss these shows, are they not
a part of "fandom" too? I mean, a fan writing something about a
sci-fi show for a fanzine or in a Usenet post is pretty similar.
A newsgroup could even be considered an online fanzine!

In recent days the unwanted Dr. Who slop has exceeded all other
traffic in that newsgroup, threatening to destroy it.

How can traffic destroy a newsgroup? Traffic keeps it alive. You
are free to use filters or killfiles to ignore the posts/posters
that you don't want to see and/or read though.

Also, who decides what content is wanted and unwanted on any
specific newsgroup? Surely the readers of any newsgroup exercise
their own judgement by using the aforesaid filter mechanisms to
decide what content they read, or ignore?

Lynch is being irrational as usual.

No Dave, he's posting his opinion. Which is what discussions on
Usenet are supposed to be about. You know, people discussing things
reasonably, like adults. Or maybe you don't know...

I just object, in principle, to people who think they own a certain
newsgroup,

... but ... but ... but this newsgroup appears on Binky's news-server so

^^^^^<-Paedophile talker noted

he MUST OWN IT, surely!! ;-P

especially when they seem to have no problem starting off-topic
threads in it themself!

I didn't say he was completely wrong though, I was just putting
across my POV.

As we ALL can do. If we don't like the views expressed ... KILL-FILE
that poster!!
--
Daniel70

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The True Doctor wrote:

On 22/10/2025 11:13, Blueshirt wrote:

Keith F. Lynch wrote:

Also, who decides what content is wanted and unwanted on any
specific newsgroup? Surely the readers of any newsgroup
exercise their own judgement by using the aforesaid filter
mechanisms to decide what content they read, or ignore?

The woke believe in controlling what everyone else says,
thinks, and does. They don't believe in free speech and
discussion of anything that is different to them. They are
both Cybermen and Daleks.

Well, taking the general point... yes, Usenet is (and should be)
free of control. People can say whatever they want, and people
are free to ignore, delete or killfile anybody that they don't
want to read.
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Daniel70 wrote:

On 23/10/2025 7:01 am, Blueshirt wrote:

I just object, in principle, to people who think they
own a certain newsgroup,especially when they seem to have
no problem starting off-topic threads in it themself!

I didn't say he was completely wrong though, I was just
putting across my POV.

As we ALL can do. If we don't like the views expressed ...
KILL-FILE that poster!!

Some people seem to have a problem doing that and prefer to
wade through "slop"! ;-)

Each to their own and all that...
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Tim Merrigan wrote:

On 10/22/2025 1:02 PM, Blueshirt wrote:

Scott Dorsey wrote:

Well, there is a newsgroup charter after all.

Nobody here seems to be complaining about "The government
shutdown" thread. Is that [off-topic] subject mentioned in
this newsgroup's charter? Plus, the person who started that
thread didn't even mark it as OT!

We were also discussing learning to drive and electronic
cars here a few weeks back too, I can't recall seeing anybody
complaining about that discussion either.

<shrugs>

Actually, the Doctor Who discussions are more on topic than
those. The people in the Doctor Who discussions are fans of
a StFnal TV series, i.e. a fandom of an SF art.

That would be my opinion, generally. But I do accept this place
shouldn't be the first point of call for people starting "Doctor
Who" threads.
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In article <xn0pcdrl16ssx91003@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

The True Doctor wrote:

On 22/10/2025 11:13, Blueshirt wrote:

Keith F. Lynch wrote:

Also, who decides what content is wanted and unwanted on any
specific newsgroup? Surely the readers of any newsgroup
exercise their own judgement by using the aforesaid filter
mechanisms to decide what content they read, or ignore?

The woke believe in controlling what everyone else says,
thinks, and does. They don't believe in free speech and
discussion of anything that is different to them. They are
both Cybermen and Daleks.

Well, taking the general point... yes, Usenet is (and should be)
free of control. People can say whatever they want, and people
are free to ignore, delete or killfile anybody that they don't
want to read.

Killfiling sucks.
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In article <xn0pcdrt96t4uac004@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

Daniel70 wrote:

On 23/10/2025 7:01 am, Blueshirt wrote:

I just object, in principle, to people who think they
own a certain newsgroup,especially when they seem to have
no problem starting off-topic threads in it themself!

I didn't say he was completely wrong though, I was just
putting across my POV.

As we ALL can do. If we don't like the views expressed ...
KILL-FILE that poster!!

Some people seem to have a problem doing that and prefer to
wade through "slop"! ;-)

Each to their own and all that...

I prefer to wade!!
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The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:

In article <xn0pccrvzabds4z001@post.eweka.nl>,

I didn't say he was completely wrong though, I was just putting
across my POV.

And then there is Lynch.

I think the basic issue is that for several years, rasf people have been politely asking you to stop crossposting into here. Not just one person,
but a lot of people. Not just recently, but for a long time now. I think they expect politeness in return because this is a polite place, and we are not getting it.
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The Binky Doctor wrote:

Please stop living a sheletered life!

Says Binky as he posts from his mothers basement.
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The Doctor wrote:

In article <xn0pcdrl16ssx91003@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

Well, taking the general point... yes, Usenet is (and
should be) free of control. People can say whatever
they want, and people are free to ignore, delete or
killfile anybody that they don't want to read.

Killfiling sucks.

Of course you would say that, as you are probably the person
on Usenet most responsible for people actually USING their
killfiles!
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Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:

I think the basic issue is that for several years, rasf people have
been politely asking you to stop crossposting into here. Not just
one person, but a lot of people. Not just recently, but for a long
time now. I think they expect politeness in return because this is
a polite place, and we are not getting it.

Yes. Thank you. That's exactly what I meant.

Yes, people can use killfiles, but not everyone's software supports
them, and not everyone knows how to use them. Rasff is, as I said,
intended for people who attend or run conventions, and for people
who publish or write for fanzines. Not all such people are computer
experts. If they find the free and open Internet overrun with
off-topic crap, they'll give up on it and move to a walled garden such
as Reddit or Facebook. People unable to govern themselves soon find
themselves governed by tyrants. Or by jailers. Or by Elon Musk.

I've never been on Reddit or Facebook, but I did post rather a lot
to a Typepad blog. But the whole of Typepad recently went out of
business. All of my content, and all of those communities, are
just gone.

Some Dr. Who related posts might be on topic on rasff. For instance
if someone who writes or acts for that show will be at next month's
Philcon. But, thanks to more posts being dumped here about "The
Timeless Child" than about all conventions, fanzines, fans, and other
topics put together, any such post would almost certainly be blocked
by killfiles. Or wouldn't be seen because everyone has given up on
trying to find anything at all in this newsgroup.

Most people, if they find themselves in a neighborhood with lots of
broken windows and lots of trash on the sidewalks don't go to a lot of
effort to clean up the place. Instead, they simply decide they're in
a bad neighborhood, and go elsewhere.

I'm against censorship. But communications can be destroyed, not
just by censorship, but also by being drowned out by vast amounts
of unwanted off-topic spam, scams, and slop.

For instance I recently had to await a phone call from a termite
exterminator. If I didn't answer, he'd assume nobody was home, and
would not show up. So I had to field over a hundred scam calls while
waiting for one legitimate call. That reminded me why I can no longer
chat with friends on the phone. They can't get through to me. And I
can't get through to them. We're all held hostage by overwhelming
amounts of unwanted crap.

Do Dr. Who fans really want to be seen throughought fandom as rude
assholes who turn everything they touch into a useless slum? It would
seem so.
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In article <18712567a4d65f11$1$3295933$60dd6a6a@news.thecubenet.com>,
Rudy Canoza <rudy.can@jllkone.not> wrote:

The Binky Doctor wrote:

^^^^^<-PAedophile talker noted

Please stop living a sheletered life!

Says Binky as he posts from his mothers basement.

^^^^^<-PAedophile talker noted

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In article <xn0pce11y75nb7t000@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

The Doctor wrote:

In article <xn0pcdrl16ssx91003@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

Well, taking the general point... yes, Usenet is (and
should be) free of control. People can say whatever
they want, and people are free to ignore, delete or
killfile anybody that they don't want to read.

Killfiling sucks.

Of course you would say that, as you are probably the person
on Usenet most responsible for people actually USING their
killfiles!

Ha! Ha!!
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In article <10ddo45$hqd$1@reader2.panix.com>,
Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:

Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote:

I think the basic issue is that for several years, rasf people have
been politely asking you to stop crossposting into here. Not just
one person, but a lot of people. Not just recently, but for a long
time now. I think they expect politeness in return because this is
a polite place, and we are not getting it.

Yes. Thank you. That's exactly what I meant.

Yes, people can use killfiles, but not everyone's software supports
them, and not everyone knows how to use them. Rasff is, as I said,
intended for people who attend or run conventions, and for people
who publish or write for fanzines. Not all such people are computer
experts. If they find the free and open Internet overrun with
off-topic crap, they'll give up on it and move to a walled garden such
as Reddit or Facebook. People unable to govern themselves soon find >themselves governed by tyrants. Or by jailers. Or by Elon Musk.

I've never been on Reddit or Facebook, but I did post rather a lot
to a Typepad blog. But the whole of Typepad recently went out of
business. All of my content, and all of those communities, are
just gone.

Some Dr. Who related posts might be on topic on rasff. For instance
if someone who writes or acts for that show will be at next month's
Philcon. But, thanks to more posts being dumped here about "The
Timeless Child" than about all conventions, fanzines, fans, and other
topics put together, any such post would almost certainly be blocked
by killfiles. Or wouldn't be seen because everyone has given up on
trying to find anything at all in this newsgroup.

Most people, if they find themselves in a neighborhood with lots of
broken windows and lots of trash on the sidewalks don't go to a lot of
effort to clean up the place. Instead, they simply decide they're in
a bad neighborhood, and go elsewhere.

I'm against censorship. But communications can be destroyed, not
just by censorship, but also by being drowned out by vast amounts
of unwanted off-topic spam, scams, and slop.

For instance I recently had to await a phone call from a termite >exterminator. If I didn't answer, he'd assume nobody was home, and
would not show up. So I had to field over a hundred scam calls while
waiting for one legitimate call. That reminded me why I can no longer
chat with friends on the phone. They can't get through to me. And I
can't get through to them. We're all held hostage by overwhelming
amounts of unwanted crap.

Do Dr. Who fans really want to be seen throughought fandom as rude
a*les who turn everything they touch into a useless slum? It would
seem so.

Like Chibnall, RTd ...

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On 24/10/2025 1:17 am, Scott Dorsey wrote:

The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:

In article <xn0pccrvzabds4z001@post.eweka.nl>,

I didn't say he was completely wrong though, I was just putting
across my POV.

And then there is Lynch.

I think the basic issue is that for several years, rasf people have been politely asking you to stop crossposting into here. Not just one person,
but a lot of people. Not just recently, but for a long time now. I think they expect politeness in return because this is a polite place, and we are not getting it.
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Don't worry, Scott, the regulars in rec.arts.drwho have been asking
Binky for years to be sensibly/polite about his postings .... but we
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On 24/10/2025 4:20 am, Keith F. Lynch wrote:

<Snip>

I'm against censorship. But communications can be destroyed, not
just by censorship, but also by being drowned out by vast amounts
of unwanted off-topic spam, scams, and slop.

For instance I recently had to await a phone call from a termite exterminator. If I didn't answer, he'd assume nobody was home, and
would not show up. So I had to field over a hundred scam calls while > waiting for one legitimate call.

I was in a similar situation with scam calls some time ago ....

To make matters worse, for some reason, the phones wall plug is in the
main bedroom ... where I don't spend much time unless I'm sleeping ....
so, if the phone rang, I'd have to rush from wherever I was in the house
into the main bedroom BEFORE the phone rang out.

Then I brought an Answer Machine so I could wait to hear if it was
someone that I actually wanted to talk to.

So now that Answer Machine (eventually) answers the call and says I'm
not home .... by which time the Spammers Dialer machine has usually hung
up!!

Job DONE.
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In article <10dbugf$126fb$1@dont-email.me>,
Tim Merrigan <tppm@rr.ca.com> wrote:

On 10/22/2025 3:07 PM, The True Doctor wrote:

The woke believe in controlling what everyone else says, thinks, and
does. They don't believe in free speech and discussion of anything that
is different to them. They are both Cybermen and Daleks.

Projecting much?

I am just amused at the notion of anyone considering Keith to be "woke." --scott
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In article <10dfhu5$2gdgl$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 24/10/2025 1:17 am, Scott Dorsey wrote:

The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:

In article <xn0pccrvzabds4z001@post.eweka.nl>,

I didn't say he was completely wrong though, I was just putting
across my POV.

And then there is Lynch.

I think the basic issue is that for several years, rasf people have been
politely asking you to stop crossposting into here. Not just one person,
but a lot of people. Not just recently, but for a long time now. I think >> they expect politeness in return because this is a polite place, and we are >> not getting it.
--scott

Don't worry, Scott, the regulars in rec.arts.drwho have been asking
Binky for years to be sensibly/polite about his postings .... but we

^^^^^<-Paedophile talker noted

have failed, miserably!!
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In article <10dfiqa$2gmmv$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 24/10/2025 4:20 am, Keith F. Lynch wrote:

<Snip>

I'm against censorship. But communications can be destroyed, not
just by censorship, but also by being drowned out by vast amounts
of unwanted off-topic spam, scams, and slop.

For instance I recently had to await a phone call from a termite
exterminator. If I didn't answer, he'd assume nobody was home, and
would not show up. So I had to field over a hundred scam calls while > waiting

for one legitimate call.

I was in a similar situation with scam calls some time ago ....

To make matters worse, for some reason, the phones wall plug is in the
main bedroom ... where I don't spend much time unless I'm sleeping ....
so, if the phone rang, I'd have to rush from wherever I was in the house >into the main bedroom BEFORE the phone rang out.

Then I brought an Answer Machine so I could wait to hear if it was
someone that I actually wanted to talk to.

So now that Answer Machine (eventually) answers the call and says I'm
not home .... by which time the Spammers Dialer machine has usually hung >up!!

Job DONE.

If the number is not know, disconeect.

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On 10/24/2025 05:01, Daniel70 wrote:

So now that Answer Machine (eventually) answers the call and says I'm
not home .... by which time the Spammers Dialer machine has usually hung up!!

Job DONE.

Many years ago, back when I still had a land line, I was getting
bombarded with spam dials every day. Then I saw something on the shelf
at Wal-Mart (stop laughing :) ) that claimed to help cut down on those
calls. What you did is you plugged this thing into the wall jack, then
plug the phone into the other end. What this thing did was every time
the phone rang and you either picked up, or let the answering machine
pick up, it would send out the three tones that lets the calling party
know that a phone number is disconnected, or otherwise not in service.
When a spam dial hears those tones, they would stop calling the number
in question.

It worked...within a month the spam dials dropped off to almost nothing.
Of course, I had to let friends and family and any business I wanted to
talk to know that they needed to ignore those tones.
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In article <rYMKQ.67224$UXx1.56922@fx17.ams4>,
Hornplayer9599 <Hornplayer9599@aol.com> wrote:

On 10/24/2025 05:01, Daniel70 wrote:

So now that Answer Machine (eventually) answers the call and says I'm
not home .... by which time the Spammers Dialer machine has usually hung
up!!

Job DONE.

Many years ago, back when I still had a land line, I was getting
bombarded with spam dials every day. Then I saw something on the shelf
at Wal-Mart (stop laughing :) ) that claimed to help cut down on those >calls. What you did is you plugged this thing into the wall jack, then
plug the phone into the other end. What this thing did was every time
the phone rang and you either picked up, or let the answering machine
pick up, it would send out the three tones that lets the calling party
know that a phone number is disconnected, or otherwise not in service.
When a spam dial hears those tones, they would stop calling the number
in question.

It worked...within a month the spam dials dropped off to almost nothing.
Of course, I had to let friends and family and any business I wanted to
talk to know that they needed to ignore those tones.

Call display is useful!

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On 25/10/2025 2:30 am, Hornplayer9599 wrote:

On 10/24/2025 05:01, Daniel70 wrote:

So now that Answer Machine (eventually) answers the call and says I'm
not home .... by which time the Spammers Dialer machine has usually
hung up!!

Job DONE.

Many years ago, back when I still had a land line, I was getting
bombarded with spam dials every day.-a Then I saw something on the shelf
at Wal-Mart (stop laughing :) ) that claimed to help cut down on those calls.-a What you did is you plugged this thing into the wall jack, then plug the phone into the other end.-a What this thing did was every time
the phone rang and you either picked up, or let the answering machine
pick up, it would send out the three tones that lets the calling party
know that a phone number is disconnected, or otherwise not in service.
When a spam dial hears those tones, they would stop calling the number
in question.

It worked...within a month the spam dials dropped off to almost nothing.
Of course, I had to let friends and family and any business I wanted to
talk to know that they needed to ignore those tones.

So it resulted in you being de-listed ... by/to the Spam Bots. Good.
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On 2025-10-25 09:23:45 +0000, Daniel70 said:

On 25/10/2025 2:30 am, Hornplayer9599 wrote:

On 10/24/2025 05:01, Daniel70 wrote:

So now that Answer Machine (eventually) answers the call and says I'm
not home .... by which time the Spammers Dialer machine has usually
hung up!!

Job DONE.

Many years ago, back when I still had a land line, I was getting
bombarded with spam dials every day.a Then I saw something on the shelf
at Wal-Mart (stop laughing :) ) that claimed to help cut down on those
calls.a What you did is you plugged this thing into the wall jack, then
plug the phone into the other end.a What this thing did was every time
the phone rang and you either picked up, or let the answering machine
pick up, it would send out the three tones that lets the calling party
know that a phone number is disconnected, or otherwise not in service.
When a spam dial hears those tones, they would stop calling the number
in question.

It worked...within a month the spam dials dropped off to almost nothing.
Of course, I had to let friends and family and any business I wanted to
talk to know that they needed to ignore those tones.

So it resulted in you being de-listed ... by/to the Spam Bots. Good.

We've always had an unlisted landline number, which cuts down on spam
calls, although of course doesn't work with robo-callers (computer
controlled or people simply dialling sequential numbers). We have very
rarely ever gotten spam calls at all.


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In article <10djk4c$3lliv$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

On 2025-10-25 09:23:45 +0000, Daniel70 said:

On 25/10/2025 2:30 am, Hornplayer9599 wrote:

On 10/24/2025 05:01, Daniel70 wrote:

So now that Answer Machine (eventually) answers the call and says I'm >>>> not home .... by which time the Spammers Dialer machine has usually
hung up!!

Job DONE.

Many years ago, back when I still had a land line, I was getting
bombarded with spam dials every day.a Then I saw something on the shelf >>> at Wal-Mart (stop laughing :) ) that claimed to help cut down on those
calls.a What you did is you plugged this thing into the wall jack, then >>> plug the phone into the other end.a What this thing did was every time
the phone rang and you either picked up, or let the answering machine
pick up, it would send out the three tones that lets the calling party
know that a phone number is disconnected, or otherwise not in service.
When a spam dial hears those tones, they would stop calling the number
in question.

It worked...within a month the spam dials dropped off to almost nothing. >>> Of course, I had to let friends and family and any business I wanted to >>> talk to know that they needed to ignore those tones.

So it resulted in you being de-listed ... by/to the Spam Bots. Good.

We've always had an unlisted landline number, which cuts down on spam
calls, although of course doesn't work with robo-callers (computer >controlled or people simply dialling sequential numbers). We have very >rarely ever gotten spam calls at all.

Smart idea.
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On 26/10/2025 9:48 am, Your Name wrote:

On 2025-10-25 09:23:45 +0000, Daniel70 said:

On 25/10/2025 2:30 am, Hornplayer9599 wrote:

On 10/24/2025 05:01, Daniel70 wrote:

So now that Answer Machine (eventually) answers the call and says
I'm not home .... by which time the Spammers Dialer machine has
usually hung up!!

Job DONE.

Many years ago, back when I still had a land line, I was getting
bombarded with spam dials every day.-a Then I saw something on the
shelf at Wal-Mart (stop laughing :) ) that claimed to help cut down
on those calls.-a What you did is you plugged this thing into the wall
jack, then plug the phone into the other end.-a What this thing did
was every time the phone rang and you either picked up, or let the
answering machine pick up, it would send out the three tones that
lets the calling party know that a phone number is disconnected, or
otherwise not in service.
When a spam dial hears those tones, they would stop calling the
number in question.

It worked...within a month the spam dials dropped off to almost nothing. >>> Of course, I had to let friends and family and any business I wanted
to talk to know that they needed to ignore those tones.

So it resulted in you being de-listed ... by/to the Spam Bots. Good.

We've always had an unlisted landline number, which cuts down on spam
calls, although of course doesn't work with robo-callers (computer controlled or people simply dialling sequential numbers). We have very rarely ever gotten spam calls at all.

Yeah, I'm thinking the robo-callers can 'sense' when my Answer Machine
kicks into action, too. Maybe the Impedance on the phone line is
different for an Answer machine compared to an actual Phone.
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In article <10dks0t$3u8pk$1@dont-email.me>,
Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 26/10/2025 9:48 am, Your Name wrote:

On 2025-10-25 09:23:45 +0000, Daniel70 said:

On 25/10/2025 2:30 am, Hornplayer9599 wrote:

On 10/24/2025 05:01, Daniel70 wrote:

So now that Answer Machine (eventually) answers the call and says
I'm not home .... by which time the Spammers Dialer machine has
usually hung up!!

Job DONE.

Many years ago, back when I still had a land line, I was getting
bombarded with spam dials every day.-a Then I saw something on the
shelf at Wal-Mart (stop laughing :) ) that claimed to help cut down
on those calls.-a What you did is you plugged this thing into the wall >>>> jack, then plug the phone into the other end.-a What this thing did
was every time the phone rang and you either picked up, or let the
answering machine pick up, it would send out the three tones that
lets the calling party know that a phone number is disconnected, or
otherwise not in service.
When a spam dial hears those tones, they would stop calling the
number in question.

It worked...within a month the spam dials dropped off to almost nothing. >>>> Of course, I had to let friends and family and any business I wanted
to talk to know that they needed to ignore those tones.

So it resulted in you being de-listed ... by/to the Spam Bots. Good.

We've always had an unlisted landline number, which cuts down on spam
calls, although of course doesn't work with robo-callers (computer
controlled or people simply dialling sequential numbers). We have very
rarely ever gotten spam calls at all.

Yeah, I'm thinking the robo-callers can 'sense' when my Answer Machine
kicks into action, too. Maybe the Impedance on the phone line is
different for an Answer machine compared to an actual Phone.

Call verification exists. It kills the bots.

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On 10/21/25 6:06 AM, The Doctor wrote:

In article <10d7q90$3rlsu$3@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

We all knew that Doctor Who was over. Anyone that has seen this modern trash >> could see it a mile away. However even writers involved with the show are
expressing the same sentiment. With ZERO demand or direction for NEW Doctor >> material as well as the show now being completely in limbo.

https://youtu.be/8qxQ7XZFHGE?si=799Pg1oCE-IUCzAQ

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Who is RTD, Russell T Davies? Why use abbrevs?

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On 2025-11-02 01:18:24 +0000, Pluted Pup said:

On 10/21/25 6:06 AM, The Doctor wrote:

In article <10d7q90$3rlsu$3@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

We all knew that Doctor Who was over. Anyone that has seen this modern trash
could see it a mile away. However even writers involved with the show are >>> expressing the same sentiment. With ZERO demand or direction for NEW Doctor >>> material as well as the show now being completely in limbo.

https://youtu.be/8qxQ7XZFHGE?si=799Pg1oCE-IUCzAQ

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Sack RTD and get a brand new showrunners who will

Who is RTD, Russell T Davies? Why use abbrevs?

Yes, it is him. Abbreviations are quicker to type, plus it can also
mean "Real Total Dickhead", because that is actually the same thing
too. :-p

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In article <gqWdnWIrr6z-LJv0nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> wrote:

On 10/21/25 6:06 AM, The Doctor wrote:

In article <10d7q90$3rlsu$3@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

We all knew that Doctor Who was over. Anyone that has seen this modern trash
could see it a mile away. However even writers involved with the show are >>> expressing the same sentiment. With ZERO demand or direction for NEW Doctor >>> material as well as the show now being completely in limbo.

https://youtu.be/8qxQ7XZFHGE?si=799Pg1oCE-IUCzAQ

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Sack RTD and get a brand new showrunners who will

Who is RTD, Russell T Davies? Why use abbrevs?

Yes! That is how he is known as.

do what the fans want: RETCON THE TIMELESS CHILD TOTALLY OUT OF DOCTOR WHO!.

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In article <10e6mqh$1qq8c$1@dont-email.me>,
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

On 2025-11-02 01:18:24 +0000, Pluted Pup said:

On 10/21/25 6:06 AM, The Doctor wrote:

In article <10d7q90$3rlsu$3@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

We all knew that Doctor Who was over. Anyone that has seen this modern trash
could see it a mile away. However even writers involved with the show are >>>> expressing the same sentiment. With ZERO demand or direction for NEW Doctor
material as well as the show now being completely in limbo.

https://youtu.be/8qxQ7XZFHGE?si=799Pg1oCE-IUCzAQ

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Let's go Brandon!

Sack RTD and get a brand new showrunners who will

Who is RTD, Russell T Davies? Why use abbrevs?

Yes, it is him. Abbreviations are quicker to type, plus it can also
mean "Real Total Dickhead", because that is actually the same thing
too. :-p

YES!!!

do what the fans want: RETCON THE TIMELESS CHILD TOTALLY OUT OF DOCTOR WHO!.

Exatly!
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2025 17:20:05 -0000 (UTC), "Keith F. Lynch"
<kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:

Yes, people can use killfiles, but not everyone's software supports
them, and not everyone knows how to use them.

I find it quite easy to skip ovr Dr. Who posts without
setting a kill filter. No filter can remove off-topic
complaints about Dr. Who posts.
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