First Dolly Parton, now Tim Curry. Who will be the third?
I'll note that Mel Brooks, Dick Van Dkye and David Atenborough are all
over 100.
First Dolly Parton, now Tim Curry. Who will be the
third?
First Dolly Parton, now Tim Curry. Who will be the third?
I'll note that Mel Brooks, Dick Van Dkye and David Atenborough are all
over 100.
Keith F. Lynch wrote:
First Dolly Parton, now Tim Curry. Who will be the
third?
I bet we all know who the world is praying for it to
be...
Blueshirt wrote:
I bet we all know who the world is praying for it to be...
If only...
s|b <sb.nospam@belgacom.net> wrote:
Blueshirt wrote:
I bet we all know who the world is praying for it to be...
If only...
Unfortunately, Putin is only 73. He could live for several
more decades.
Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Unfortunately, Putin is only 73. He could live for several more
decades.
I was betting on someone else anyway. (-:
s|b <sb.nospam@belgacom.net> wrote:
Blueshirt wrote:
I bet we all know who the world is praying for it to be...
If only...
Unfortunately, Putin is only 73. He could live for several
more decades.
In article <116pp1q$jkl$1@reader1.panix.com>,
Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
s|b <sb.nospam@belgacom.net> wrote:
Blueshirt wrote:
I bet we all know who the world is praying for it to be...
If only...
Unfortunately, Putin is only 73. He could live for several
more decades.
Historically people in his position have had relatively short
lifespans. Not due to natural death, though. Although I guess
you could consider having one's head chopped off kind of a
natural death for a czar.
--scott
Actually, the czars who were murdered were not beheaded. Ivan VI
was stabbed, Peter III's assassination was passed off as a
hemorrhoid colic attack, Paul I was choked, Alexander II was
killed by a bomb, and Nicholas II was shot.
Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually, the czars who were murdered were not beheaded. Ivan VI
was stabbed, Peter III's assassination was passed off as a
hemorrhoid colic attack, Paul I was choked, Alexander II was
killed by a bomb, and Nicholas II was shot.
Right. It's mostly in Britain and France that rulers have lost their
heads.
Sometimes posthumously. After the Restoration, Oliver Cromwell's
corpse was dug up and beheaded, and Charles I's corpse had its head reattached.
The past is deeply weird. For instance I recently read about this man
who went to prison for the crime of making a patriotic movie about
1776 in the US. He was sentenced to a deade in prison because it was anti-British. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0326308/bio
In England, Edward II probably would have preferred beheading. It
is believed that Henry VI died of starvation and neglect. Lady Jane
Grey was beheaded, as was Charles I. George V has been discussed
in another thread in this group. So even in England, beheading a
monarch was rare. And I think Louis XVI was the only French monarch
to be beheaded.
Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
In England, Edward II probably would have preferred beheading. It
is believed that Henry VI died of starvation and neglect. Lady Jane
Grey was beheaded, as was Charles I. George V has been discussed
in another thread in this group. So even in England, beheading a
monarch was rare. And I think Louis XVI was the only French monarch
to be beheaded.
You missed one monarch, Mary, Queen of Scots, who also lost her head
in England. So did two of Henry VIII's six wives, one by axe and,
just for variety, one by sword. Also always popular on that island
was drawing and quartering.
Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
So even in England, beheading a monarch was rare.
You missed one monarch, Mary, Queen of Scots, who also lost her head
in England. So did two of Henry VIII's six wives, one by axe and,
just for variety, one by sword. Also always popular on that island
was drawing and quartering.
Mary, Queen of Scots, was not an English monarch.
Anne Boleyn and Catherine Parr were Queens consort, not Queens in
their own right, so I don't think of them as monarchs ...
Apparently there was a great shortage of female names in those days.
Also, you've confused Ms. Parr, who outlived Henry, for Ms. Howard,
who got the axe. To be fair, they shared the same first name. As did
his first wife. Apparently there was a great shortage of female names
in those days. Though not as badly as during the century in which
every English queen was named Matilda.
That's not nearly as bad as Egypt from 305 to 51 BC, when every
Pharaoh was named Ptolemy.
First Dolly Parton, now Tim Curry. Who will be the third?
I think Johan de Witt, Prime Minister of the Dutch Republic in the 17th >century, deserves at least a passing mention.
s|b <sb.nospam@belgacom.net> wrote:
Blueshirt wrote:
I bet we all know who the world is praying for it to be...
If only...
Unfortunately, Putin is only 73. He could live for several
more decades.
In other words, making a financial bet on when someone will die
could make their death more likely, hence could arguably make you
complicit in murder.
On 8/27/26 8:06 PM, Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Also, you've confused Ms. Parr, who outlived Henry, for Ms. Howard,
who got the axe. To be fair, they shared the same first name. As
did his first wife. Apparently there was a great shortage of female
names in those days. Though not as badly as during the century in
which every English queen was named Matilda.
That's not nearly as bad as Egypt from 305 to 51 BC, when every
Pharaoh was named Ptolemy.
Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
Apparently there was a great shortage of female names in those
days.
As recently as the 1960s, "Evelyn" was a *male* name in Britain.
Just ask Mr. Waugh.
On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 00:26:46 -0000 (UTC), Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
Apparently there was a great shortage of female names in those
days.
As recently as the 1960s, "Evelyn" was a *male* name in Britain.
Just ask Mr. Waugh.
Peter SellersrCO character in rCLCasino RoyalerCY:
Vesper Lynd: Mr Evelyn Tremble?
Evelyn Tremble: Yes, thatrCOs right.
Vesper Lynd: IsnrCOt Evelyn a girlrCOs name?
Evelyn Tremble: No, itrCOs mine, actually.
See also: Camille Saint-Sa|2ns.
Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
I think Johan de Witt, Prime Minister of the Dutch Republic in the 17th >>century, deserves at least a passing mention.
Didn't one of the early Bolsheviks die of a "bad cold" which turned out
to be of the 9mm slug variety?
On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 00:26:46 -0000 (UTC), Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
Apparently there was a great shortage of female names in those
days.
As recently as the 1960s, "Evelyn" was a *male* name in Britain.
Just ask Mr. Waugh.
Peter SellersrCO character in rCLCasino RoyalerCY:
Vesper Lynd: Mr Evelyn Tremble?
Evelyn Tremble: Yes, thatrCOs right.
Vesper Lynd: IsnrCOt Evelyn a girlrCOs name?
Evelyn Tremble: No, itrCOs mine, actually.
See also: Camille Saint-Sa|2ns.
On 8/28/26 00:52, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
See also: Camille Saint-Sa|2ns.
Michael Learned
Also "Maria" is often used as a male middle name.
Evelyn C. Leeper <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> wrote:
I think Johan de Witt, Prime Minister of the Dutch Republic in the 17th
century, deserves at least a passing mention.
Didn't one of the early Bolsheviks die of a "bad cold" which turned out
to be of the 9mm slug variety?
In article <116r46r$218ss$6@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence D|+Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 00:26:46 -0000 (UTC), Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
Apparently there was a great shortage of female names in those
days.
As recently as the 1960s, "Evelyn" was a *male* name in Britain.
Just ask Mr. Waugh.
Peter Sellers|ore4rao character in |ore4+oCasino Royale|ore4-Y:
Vesper Lynd: Mr Evelyn Tremble?
Evelyn Tremble: Yes, that|ore4raos right.
Vesper Lynd: Isn|ore4raot Evelyn a girl|ore4raos name?
Evelyn Tremble: No, it|ore4raos mine, actually.
See also: Camille Saint-Sa|a-2ns.
[Hal Heydt]
A gentleman I met in the early 1970s, a retired master machinint.
His name was Beverley Hodghead.
s|b <sb.nospam@belgacom.net> wrote:
Keith F. Lynch wrote:
Unfortunately, Putin is only 73. He could live for several more
decades.
I was betting on someone else anyway. (-:
Betting in what sense?
It's been pointed out that anonymous digital
cash combined with prediction markets make assassinations all but
inevitable. The assassin could finance his hit by successfully
"predicting" the date his target will die. He gets money from all
the other people making bets on when the same person will die.
In other words, making a financial bet on when someone will die could
make their death more likely, hence could arguably make you complicit
in murder.
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