• MT VOID, 04/10/26 -- Vol. 44, No. 41, Whole Number 2427

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    THE MT VOID
    04/10/26 -- Vol. 44, No. 41, Whole Number 2427

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    Topics:
    Is Pluto a Planet? (comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)
    Ray Harryhausen Films (Part 9) (ONE MILLION YEARS B.C.)
    (film comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)
    THERE IS NO ANTIMEMETIC DIVISION by qntm (Sam Hughes)
    (book review by Paul S. R. Chisholm)
    Second Time Books (comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)
    STORIES YOU NEVER HEARD OF (letter of comment by Hal Heydt)
    This Week's Reading (Federalist No. 10) (book comments
    by Evelyn C. Leeper)

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    TOPIC: Is Pluto a Planet? (comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    [And now for a break from film reviews.]

    Before we can answer this, we obviously have to define what we
    mean by "planet".

    But before we do this, let me answer the questions "what is a
    kosher bird?" and "what is a reptile?"

    Or try to.

    When it comes to land animals or marine animals, the question of
    the kosher status of an animal is rule-based. If a land animal
    chews a cud and has cloven hooves it is kosher, otherwise not. If
    a marine animal has both scales and fins, it is kosher, otherwise
    not.

    But for birds, it is different. Here the definition is list-based,
    or enumerative. If the bird is on the list of twenty-four
    non-kosher birds in Leviticus 11:13-19 and Deuteronomy 14:11-18,
    it is not kosher, otherwise (theoretically) it is kosher. But
    since we don't really know what all the Hebrew names for the
    species map to in term of current species names, we can never
    really be sure.

    The Mishnah attempts to turn this list into a set of rules. Birds
    of prey are not kosher. (Birds of prey use their claws to catch
    their prey, so chickens pecking at worms are not birds of prey.)
    Birds with an "extra" toe, a crop, or a gizzard that can be peeled
    are not kosher.

    There are further rules and descriptions, and it appears that one
    goal of these rules is to make sure all the "traditionally" kosher
    birds stay kosher.

    (This raises the question of which comes first: the list or the
    rules. With birds, the rules are designed to match the existing
    list. With "language", its definition seems to change so as to
    make sure that only humans have "language".)

    And now we look at the question "what is a reptile"? The
    traditional definition was cold-blooded, egg-laying lung-breathing
    animals with dry skin covered with scales or plates.

    But then we came to cladistics and also the knowledge that birds
    evolved from dinosaurs. So now by some scientific classification
    systems, birds are considered reptiles because they are descended
    from reptiles. But most people would say that birds are *not*
    reptiles, and indeed science has to redefine "reptile" to get
    birds into that category. (Actually, the current classification is
    of the clade Archosauria, which includes "all living and extinct
    relatives of birds and crocodilians such as non-avian dinosaurs,
    pterosaurs, phytosaurs, aetosaurs and rauisuchians as well as many
    Mesozoic marine reptiles.")

    So where does all this leave Pluto? Well, we can define what is a
    planet by a list (like the non-kosher birds), or by fixed rules
    (like reptiles), or by rules we keep changing (like languages).

    It appears that the International Astronomical Union [IAU] is
    going with "rules that keep changing." The rules adopted in 2006
    were that a planet is in orbit around the Sun, has sufficient mass
    to be in hydrostatic equilibrium, and has cleared the neighborhood
    around its orbit.

    The first requirement ruled out all extra-solar planets; the last
    two requirements are ambiguous (the third one even more than the
    second). The IAU has a separate definition for extra-solar
    planets, which makes one wonder why they can't have a single
    definition--if they are going to have one solar system as an
    exception to the rules, why not have Pluto an exception within
    that solar system?

    And I wouldn't be me if I didn't mention Jorge Luis Borges every
    chance I get, so let's just say that we want to avoid the type of
    categories Borges wrote about in "The Analytical Language of John
    Wilkins", in which he speaks of "a Chinese encyclopaedia entitled
    'Celestial Empire of benevolent Knowledge'. In its remote pages it
    is written that the animals are divided into: (a) belonging to the
    emperor, (b) embalmed, (c) tame, (d) sucking pigs, (e) sirens, (f)
    fabulous, (g) stray dogs, (h) included in the present
    classification, (i) frenzied, (j) innumerable, (k) drawn with a
    very fine camelhair brush, (l) et cetera, (m) having just broken
    the water pitcher, (n) that from a long way off look like flies."
    [-ecl]

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    TOPIC: Ray Harryhausen Films (Part 9) (film comments by Evelyn
    C. Leeper)

    [I misspoke last week; I only did two films that week, so that was
    not the last part--this one is.]

    ONE MILLION YEARS B.C. (1966): ONE MILLION YEARS B.C. is basically
    a remake of the 1940 film ONE MILLION B.C. It starts out with a
    narrator saying, "This was a story of long, long ago when the
    world was just beginning." Well, no, it wasn't just beginning and
    in general this gets prehistory totally wrong. A million years
    ago, the only humanoids were Homo erectus and possibly Homo
    heidelbergensis, while the film has what are clearly Homo sapiens.
    The film also has dinosaurs, which died off about 64 million years
    before its purported time, and it mixes Jurassic and Cretaceous
    dinosaurs. The various mammals are far too modern; this was the
    era of wooly mammoths, sabertooth tigers, and giant ground sloths.
    And I don't think there were ever giant spiders or giant sea
    turtles as big as these. (Unlike the lizard, the sea turtle is
    stop-motion animation, though the combining of actors and creature
    effects in a single frame is not nearly as well done as in many of Harryhausen's other films.)

    Needless to say, eye liner, mascara, and perfectly coiffed hair
    are also wildly inaccurate.

    Actually, given the spareness of the population the narrator
    claims, the close proximity of two tribes, one completely
    dark-haired and one completely blond is evolutionarily unlikely.

    There are a lot of non-stop-motion creatures: a warthog-like
    creature probably created by putting prosthetics on an actual
    warthog, a giant lizard created by using a regular lizard and
    split screen projection, and so on.

    It is interesting that Harryhausen is often connected with
    dinosaurs, yet only one of the dozen films he made with Charles
    Schneer (VALLEY OF GWANGI) had dinosaurs; yet three of the five
    films he made elsewhere had them.

    Released theatrically 21 February 1967.

    Film Credits:
    <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060782/reference>

    What others are saying:
    <https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/one_million_years_bc>


    [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: THERE IS NO ANTIMEMETIC DIVISION by qntm (Sam Hughes) (book
    review by Paul S. R. Chisholm)

    The secret Unknown Organization protects humanity from dangerous
    artifacts, entities, and phenomena. That includes antimemetics,
    which destroy memories. UO's Antimemetic Division works to contain
    these Unknowns. Unfortunately, the Unknowns destroy memories and
    even the records of the division and its members. As far as the
    Organization knows, there is no Antimemetic Division.

    How can you fight an enemy you can't remember?

    This was one of the three books Anthropic co-founder Jack Clark
    recommended on a recent podcast interview with Ezra Klein. (I
    couldn't remember who the interview subject was. I even had
    trouble finding a reference to it. Insert joke here. The other two
    were Ursula K. LeGuin's A WIZARD OF EARTHSEA and THE TRUE BELIEVER
    by Eric Hoffer.) The novel was inspired by the wiki for the SCP
    Foundation, a fictional organization that creates Special
    Containment Procedures for "anomalies." The SCP wiki is
    delightfully weird, and the novel first appeared on that site. The
    author, "qntm" ("quantum," a.k.a. Sam Hughes) is a talented
    writer. He makes the story flow. The first chapter grabbed my
    attention and wouldln't let go.

    The novel naturally devolves--evolves?--into horror. That's
    unsurprising. The most terrifying diagnosis one can get, worse
    than cancer, is dementia. It promises the destruction of memory
    (and eventually cognition).

    A little more than halfway through the book, the narrators'
    perception of reality shifts radically from the reader's, and from
    the reality described in the epilogue. I don't understand the
    ending. It's as if the author realized there was no way to finish
    the story and then threw words at it.

    Great concept, good execution, disappointing finale. I can't
    recommend this book, but I don't recommend against it. [-psrc]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: Second Time Books (comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    I have mentioned Second Time Books (114 Creek Rd, Mt Laurel
    Township, NJ; <https://www.facebook.com/SecondTimeBooks/>) many
    times in my book column, but I will put this as a regular article.
    Second Time Books has been featured on "My Family Travels":

    <https://myfamilytravels.com/this-stunning-new-jersey-bookstore-is- home-to-used-books-that-are-treated-like-gold/>

    and picked up on Facebook by "Explore New Jersey":

    <https://www.facebook.com/story.php? story_fbid=122120635683208625&id=61586258759255>

    I cannot say enough good about this store. I just wish it were
    closer to me--but it's probably good that it isn't. :-) Tell
    Brandon I sent you. [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: STORIES YOU NEVER HEARD OF (letter of comment by Hal Heydt)

    In response to Joe Karpierz's comments on RABBIT TEST AND OTHER
    STORIES in the 04/03/26 issue of the MT VOID, Hal Heydt writes:

    [Joe Karpierz wrote,] "Those readers who are familiar with Mills'
    work will nod their head sagely when I say that she does not limit
    herself to one type of story, one genre, one theme, one anything.

    You might want to take a look at Dorothy's collection STORIES YOU
    NEVER HEARD OF (<https://www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/>). It
    Dorothy's various stories that either didn't total enough for
    their own collection (e.g. THE WITCH OF SYRACUSE, the collected
    Cynthia stories), or wouldn't fit anywhere else. [-hh]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: This Week's Reading (book comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    The "Classical Stuff You Should Know" podcast did an episode on
    The Federalist paper #10, and not surprisingly, I have comments:

    Federalist No. 10, "The Same Subject Continued: The Union as a
    Safeguard Against Domestic Faction and Insurrection" by James
    Madison begins, "Among the numerous advantages promised by a
    well-constructed Union, none deserves to be more accurately
    developed than its tendency to break and control the violence of
    faction."

    He goes on to say, however, that factionalism still existed (in
    1787, when this was written).

    Madison defines a faction as "a number of citizens, whether
    amounting to a majority or a minority of the whole, who are united
    and actuated by some common impulse of passion, or of interest,
    adversed to the rights of other citizens, or to the permanent and
    aggregate interests of the community."

    He goes on to say, "There are two methods of curing the mischiefs
    of faction: the one, by removing its causes; the other, by
    controlling its effects." The first, he says, is undesirable; the
    second, impossible.

    "But the most common and durable source of factions has been the
    various and unequal distribution of property. ... The regulation
    of [the] various and interfering interests [that arise form this]
    forms the principal task of modern legislation, and involves the
    spirit of party and faction in the necessary and ordinary
    operations of the government.

    Madison notes, "No man is allowed to be a judge in his own cause,
    because his interest would certainly bias his judgment, and, not
    improbably, corrupt his integrity." I will add that this is why
    Madison would be appalled at Trump suing his own Department of
    Justice (and when I say "own", I mean he owns it) for any sum of
    money, let alone $10 billion.

    (It turns out, that the $10 billion lawsuit over a leak of his tax
    returns has a couple of flaws. First, the statute of limitations
    seems to have expired. And second, the leak took place in 2019,
    when Trump was President, and hence in charge. So he's actually
    trying to collect damages for something he was responsible for
    ("The buck stops here"--Harry Truman).)

    "It is in vain to say that enlightened statesmen will be able to
    adjust these clashing interests, and render them all subservient
    to the public good. Enlightened statesmen will not always be at
    the helm. Nor, in many cases, can such an adjustment be made at
    all without taking into view indirect and remote considerations,
    which will rarely prevail over the immediate interest which one
    party may find in disregarding the rights of another or the good
    of the whole."

    Well, Madison nailed it there.

    But then he goes on to say that in a pure democracy, a faction
    that is the majority can ride roughshod over the minority. But a
    republic, "by which [he means] a government in which the scheme of representation takes place ... promises the cure for which we are
    seeking. ... The two great points of difference between a
    democracy and a republic are: first, the delegation of the
    government, in the latter, to a small number of citizens elected
    by the rest; secondly, the greater number of citizens, and greater
    sphere of country, over which the latter may be extended. The
    effect of the first difference is, on the one hand, to refine and
    enlarge the public views, by passing them through the medium of a
    chosen body of citizens, whose wisdom may best discern the true
    interest of their country, and whose patriotism and love of
    justice will be least likely to sacrifice it to temporary or
    partial considerations."

    He seems to think this wouldn't happen, or wouldn't happen as
    often, in a large republic: "as each representative will be chosen
    by a greater number of citizens in the large than in the small
    republic, it will be more difficult for unworthy candidates to
    practice with success the vicious arts by which elections are too
    often carried; and the suffrages of the people being more free,
    will be more likely to centre in men who possess the most
    attractive merit and the most diffusive and established
    characters."

    We've seen how (in)accurate that is.

    He goes on to say, "The influence of factious leaders may kindle a
    flame within their particular States, but will be unable to spread
    a general conflagration through the other States. A religious sect
    may degenerate into a political faction in a part of the
    Confederacy; but the variety of sects dispersed over the entire
    face of it must secure the national councils against any danger
    from that source. A rage for paper money, for an abolition of
    debts, for an equal division of property, or for any other
    improper or wicked project, will be less apt to pervade the whole
    body of the Union than a particular member of it; in the same
    proportion as such a malady is more likely to taint a particular
    county or district, than an entire State."

    Okay, we now have religious sects trying to control the schools
    and other functions of government, and paper money, and the
    forgiveness of student loans, so I think we can say Madison is
    zero for three here.

    H. L. Mencken may have been more perceptive when he said, "No one
    in this world, so far as I know--and I have researched the records
    for years, and employed agents to help me--has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain
    people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby." [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    Evelyn C. Leeper
    evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com


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    possible worlds; and the pessimist fears this is true.
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  • From Cryptoengineer@petertrei@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Sun Apr 12 19:32:09 2026
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    On 4/12/2026 8:44 AM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:
    THE MT VOID
    04/10/26 -- Vol. 44, No. 41, Whole Number 2427


    TOPIC: Is Pluto a Planet? (comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    [...]

    It appears that the International Astronomical Union [IAU] is
    going with "rules that keep changing." The rules adopted in 2006
    were that a planet is in orbit around the Sun, has sufficient mass
    to be in hydrostatic equilibrium, and has cleared the neighborhood
    around its orbit.
    Frankly, I'd like to see Pluto re-instated as a planet. I don't really
    care if doing so is inconsistant. It isn't like there's some system
    that's going to break if we call it a planet.

    "Do I contradict myself?
    Very well then I contradict myself,
    (I am large, I contain multitudes.)"

    - Whitman

    Beside, if the IAU is going to be consistent, then Neptune has
    to be cancelled as a planet too: It hasn't cleared Pluto from
    its orbit.


    pt

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  • From prd@prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Mon Apr 13 10:36:40 2026
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    In article <10rha1p$2ta48$1@dont-email.me>, petertrei@gmail.com (Cryptoengineer) wrote:

    Frankly, I'd like to see Pluto re-instated as a planet. I don't really
    care if doing so is inconsistant. It isn't like there's some system
    that's going to break if we call it a planet.

    It's not so much what you want to call it as what is useful for planetary scientists. Planets do one thing, dwarf planets another.
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  • From prd@prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Mon Apr 13 12:08:40 2026
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    In article <10rha1p$2ta48$1@dont-email.me>, petertrei@gmail.com (Cryptoengineer) wrote:

    Frankly, I'd like to see Pluto re-instated as a planet. I don't really
    care if doing so is inconsistant. It isn't like there's some system
    that's going to break if we call it a planet.

    Incidentally, this reminds me of a news item from last week about how EU regulations might mean that marmalade will have to be called "citrus
    marmalade" in the near future. This has annoyed all the anti-EU brigade, although I think the whole thing has been blown up.

    Which also reminds me of the episode of Yes, Minister where EU
    regulations would mean that sausages as made in the UK would have to be labelled "reconstituted offal tubes". This led to Jim Hacker becoming
    prime minister.
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  • From Evelyn C. Leeper@evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Mon Apr 13 07:43:07 2026
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    On 4/13/26 05:35, Paul Dormer wrote:
    In article <10rha1p$2ta48$1@dont-email.me>, petertrei@gmail.com (Cryptoengineer) wrote:

    Frankly, I'd like to see Pluto re-instated as a planet. I don't really
    care if doing so is inconsistant. It isn't like there's some system
    that's going to break if we call it a planet.

    It's not so much what you want to call it as what is useful for planetary scientists. Planets do one thing, dwarf planets another.

    Pardon my ignorance, but what is the one thing planets do, and the other
    that dwarf planets do?
    --
    Evelyn C. Leeper, http://leepers.us/evelyn
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  • From prd@prd@pauldormer.cix.co.uk (Paul Dormer) to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Mon Apr 13 16:42:40 2026
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    In article <10riksb$3927a$1@dont-email.me>,
    evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com (Evelyn C. Leeper) wrote:


    Pardon my ignorance, but what is the one thing planets do, and the
    other that dwarf planets do?

    In Pluto's case, there is no orbital dominance. Apparently, it doesn't
    clear other bodies out of the way.

    I found this article online:

    https://littleastronomy.com/planet-vs-dwarf-planet/
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