• LACon code of conduct

    From Gary McGath@garym@mcgath.com to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Mon Apr 6 08:51:15 2026
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    Another article in my occasional series of analyses of codes of conduct.
    This time, the 2026 Worldcon.

    https://garymcgath.com/lacon-code-of-conduct/


    One more in my sporadic series of posts on the codes of conduct of
    various conventions. This time itrCOs LACon V, the 2026 Worldcon in Los Angeles. Its code isnrCOt so bad that it would have kept me from attending
    if IrCOd really wanted to, but it has enough problems that I changed my
    mind about getting a rCLvirtual membership.rCY HererCOs a look at some of its good and bad points.

    First concern: rCLDiscrimination (based on but not limited to, gender,
    race, ethnicity, religion, age, sexual orientation, gender identity, neurodiversity, physical appearance, body size, or physical/mental
    disability) will not be tolerated.rCY Discrimination on these grounds by businesses, support organizations, and other public-facing groups is a
    bad thing, except when itrCOs necessary to their function (for example, Catholic churches can discriminate in favor of Catholics when hiring
    priests). Individuals canrCOt be held to the same standard. People often prefer the company of their own kind, and thererCOs nothing wrong with
    that as long as they arenrCOt obnoxious. Heterosexuals mostly would rather date heterosexuals, and homosexuals usually prefer other homosexuals.
    Affinity groups often meet at cons. This kind of rule can only be
    applied sporadically. Hopefully it will be invoked only when people get
    nasty about their preferences, but it could be used on anyone.

    rCLHarassment of any kind will not be tolerated. If someone tells you no
    or asks you to leave them alone, you are expected to cease your
    interaction with them immediately. Because people may feel uncomfortable saying no or asking you to leave them alone, the absence of no is not sufficient to assume consent. Only yes means yes.rCY This mixes two
    different points. First werCOre told that we should leave people alone if
    they say no. ThatrCOs reasonable, but then it immediately says that the absence of rCLnorCY isnrCOt sufficient. Does that mean explicit consent is required for every interaction? It creates pressure to formalize
    everything. Do people have to keep to themselves completely to be safe?
    Again, there wonrCOt and canrCOt be complete enforcement, but the rule could be used on anyone.

    It gets worse with the specific items that are called harassment. rCLDeliberate misgendering / deadnaming of people or continued
    misgendering / deadnaming after being corrected.rCY This applies a one-size-fits-all rule to trans people. Some people consider their
    previously manifested sex to be rCLdeadrCY and want no reference made to it. Their choice should be respected. Others treat their transition
    differently. I know a fannish musician who treats his previous female
    identity as another person and has made an album combining her
    recordings with his new ones; herCOs rCLdeadnamedrCY himself. Some others wrote songs which they like to have credited under their previous names.
    Their choices should be respected.

    rCLComments that belittle or demean othersrCY are deemed harassment. This is the same rule Balticon used in a nasty way. It will be quite an
    interesting convention if you canrCOt say anything bad about Donald Trump.

    rCLAttempts to weaponize this Code of ConductrCY violate the code of
    conduct. What counts as rCLweaponizingrCY? Does it mean anything more than using it in a way someone doesnrCOt like?

    rCLAdvocating for or encouraging any of the above behaviors.rCY I guess IrCOve engaged in rCLharassmentrCY by writing this.

    The rCLanti-racism statementrCY is a mixed bag, but it doesnrCOt have specific prohibitions on members, so itrCOs out of scope for this discussion.

    Will the bad parts of this code cause trouble for innocent people at
    LACon? No one knows. Sometimes senseless provisions get thrown in as boilerplate and never get fixed. ItrCOs possible that if I registered for online participation and a WSFS membership, someone might point to this article and claim itrCOs rCLdemeaning,rCY rCLharassment,rCY or rCLadvocating for
    [prohibited] behaviors.rCY ItrCOs more common, though, for cons to have
    badly written codes of conduct than to use them to punish people
    arbitrarily. Even so, their presence can be intimidating. A few bigoted organizations have taken action against Israelis and their supporters,
    so the risk is there.

    Bottom line: If I were going, I wouldnrCOt skip the con because of this
    code of conduct, but I consider it enough of a negative that IrCOm
    foregoing the virtual membership.
    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com

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  • From Evelyn C. Leeper@evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Mon Apr 6 09:15:38 2026
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    On 4/6/26 08:51, Gary McGath wrote:
    ...
    It gets worse with the specific items that are called harassment. rCLDeliberate misgendering / deadnaming of people or continued
    misgendering / deadnaming after being corrected.rCY This applies a one- size-fits-all rule to trans people. Some people consider their
    previously manifested sex to be rCLdeadrCY and want no reference made to it. Their choice should be respected. Others treat their transition
    differently. I know a fannish musician who treats his previous female identity as another person and has made an album combining her
    recordings with his new ones; herCOs rCLdeadnamedrCY himself. Some others wrote songs which they like to have credited under their previous names. Their choices should be respected.

    I still have a problem with this. If I am telling someone about the
    music of Wendy Carlos it may be, if not necessary, useful to say that
    they previously wrote as Walter Carlos.

    (There was a well-known software engineer known throughout Bell Labs by
    their (original) male name. Now they have transitioned and taken a
    female name. But if I am talking to Bell Labs folks from decades ago, if
    I don't tell the folks what this person's deadname was, they will not
    have a clue who I am talking about.)

    I would not use anyone's deadname in a current context, however, unless
    they did (e.g., including it in their bio).

    rCLComments that belittle or demean othersrCY are deemed harassment. This is the same rule Balticon used in a nasty way. It will be quite an
    interesting convention if you canrCOt say anything bad about Donald Trump.

    Should I invoke Godwin's Law here?

    All this proves is that writing a CoC is not a slam-dunk.
    --
    Evelyn C. Leeper, http://leepers.us/evelyn
    "Trump Sandwich: White bread, full of baloney, with Russian dressing
    and a small pickle." [-uncredited sign at a protest]
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  • From Gary McGath@garym@mcgath.com to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Mon Apr 6 17:32:37 2026
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    On 4/6/26 9:15 AM, Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:

    Should I invoke Godwin's Law here?

    Only if you cite it correctly: "As an online discussion grows longer,
    the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches
    one." In spite of what many people think, it doesn't require the
    discussion to end immediately.
    --
    Gary McGath http://www.mcgath.com
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to rec.arts.sf.fandom on Tue Apr 7 00:13:02 2026
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    On Mon, 6 Apr 2026 08:51:15 -0400, Gary McGath wrote:

    A few bigoted organizations have taken action against Israelis and
    their supporters, so the risk is there.

    Nice to see that Israelis are no longer quite so uncritically
    supportive of their countryrCOs aggressive actions against its
    neighbours. Some are actually protesting against that now (and paying
    a price for it).
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