• MT VOID, 03/27/26 -- Vol. 44, No. 39, Whole Number 2425

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    Topics:
    Middletown (NJ) Public Library Science Fiction Discussion
    Group
    Picks for Turner Classic Movies in April (comments
    by Evelyn C. Leeper)
    Ray Harryhausen Films, Part 07 (MIGHTY JOE YOUNG (1949),
    THE BEAST FROM 20,000 FATHOMS) (film comments
    by Evelyn C. Leeper)
    IF ANYONE BUILDS IT, EVERYONE DIES by Eliezer Yudkowsky
    and Nate Soares (comments by Jerry Williams)
    Notes on DUNE MESSIAH by Frank Herbert (comments
    by Paul S. R. Chisholm)
    Dangers of A.I. (comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)
    This Week's Reading (George Orwell's Essays: "As I Please
    10", "The English People") (book comments
    by Evelyn C. Leeper)

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    TOPIC: Middletown (NJ) Public Library Science Fiction Discussion
    Group

    April 2, 2026: COUNTDOWN (1967) & THE PILGRIM PROJECT
    by Hank Searls

    <https://archive.org/details/pilgrimprojectno00sear/page/n10/>

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: Picks for Turner Classic Movies in April (comments
    by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    [It's getting harder to do this, because Turner isn't posting its
    upcoming films as early in the previous month as they used to.
    It wasn't until two days ago that they finally posted the full
    April listings.]

    My obvious recommendation, given I have just finished writing
    about Ray Harryhausen-Charles Schneer films, is the Ray
    Harryhausen-Charles Schneer festival on April 15 and 16:
    8:00 PM The 7th Voyage of Sinbad (1958)
    10:00 PM The Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1973)
    12:00 AM Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger (1977)
    2:00 AM The Valley of Gwangi (1969)
    4:00 AM Clash of the Titans (1981)

    There is also a Roger Corman festival April 3 and 4:
    8:00 PM Roger Corman: The Pope of Pop Cinema (2021)
    9:00 PM A Bucket of Blood (1959)
    10:15 PM The Little Shop of Horrors (1960)
    11:30 PM Teenage Doll (1957)
    1:00 AM Five Guns West (1955)
    2:30 AM The Beast with a Million Eyes (1955)

    There are two Coen Brothers films (does that constitute a
    festival?) on April 9 and 10:
    10:00 PM No Country for Old Men (2007)
    12:45 AM Blood Simple (1984)

    Also, seven "Andy Hardy" films on April 6, if that's your cup of
    tea, and four "Nancy Drew" films on April 15, a documentary on
    William Wyler on April 7, and of course, a bunch of Easter films
    on Easter weekend.

    Other films of interest:

    FRIDAY, April 3
    5:30 AM Seven Days in May (1964)
    11:45 AM Helen of Troy (1956)
    2:00 PM Land of the Pharaohs (1955)
    8:00 PM Roger Corman: The Pope of Pop Cinema (2021)
    9:00 PM A Bucket of Blood (1959)
    10:15 PM The Little Shop of Horrors (1960)
    11:30 PM Teenage Doll (1957)

    SATURDAY, April 4
    1:00 AM Five Guns West (1955)
    2:30 AM The Beast with a Million Eyes (1955)
    10:00 AM Tarzan's Hidden Jungle (1955)
    12:00 PM Godspell (1973)
    2:00 PM The Shoes of the Fisherman (1968)

    SUNDAY, April 5
    8:00 AM Watership Down (1978)
    12:00 PM Ben-Hur (1959)
    3:45 PM The Silver Chalice (1954)
    6:15 PM The Miracle of Our Lady of Fatima (1952)
    10:00 PM King of Kings (1961)

    MONDAY, April 6
    7:00 AM Andy Hardy Gets Spring Fever (1939)
    8:30 AM Andy Hardy Meets Debutante (1940)
    10:00 AM Andy Hardy's Private Secretary (1941)
    12:00 PM Andy Hardy's Double Life (1942)
    2:00 PM Andy Hardy's Blonde Trouble (1944)
    4:00 PM Love Laughs at Andy Hardy (1946)
    6:00 PM Andy Hardy Comes Home (1958)

    TUESDAY, April 7
    5:00 AM William Wyler: Forty Takes Willy (2024)

    THURSDAY, April 9
    10:00 PM No Country for Old Men (2007)

    FRIDAY, April 10
    12:45 AM Blood Simple (1984)

    SATURDAY, April 11
    10:00 AM Tarzan and the Lost Safari (1957)
    12:00 PM Kismet (1955)

    SUNDAY, April 12
    2:00 AM The Bad Seed (1956)

    MONDAY, April 13
    12:00 AM Ballet m|-canique (1924)
    12:30 AM A Trip to the Moon (1902)

    TUESDAY, April 14
    11:00 AM Ebirah, Horror of the Deep (1966)
    1:45 PM Lord of the Flies (1963)
    3:30 PM The Most Dangerous Game (1932)

    WEDNESDAY, April 15
    11:15 AM Nancy Drew: Detective (1938)
    12:30 PM Nancy Drew... Reporter (1939)
    1:45 PM Nancy Drew... Trouble Shooter (1939)
    3:00 PM Nancy Drew and the Hidden Staircase (1939)
    8:00 PM The 7th Voyage of Sinbad (1958)
    10:00 PM The Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1973)
    12:00 AM Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger (1977)
    2:00 AM The Valley of Gwangi (1969)
    4:00 AM Clash of the Titans (1981)

    FRIDAY, April 17
    8:00 PM Targets (1968)
    9:45 PM Piranha (1978)
    11:30 PM Queen of Blood (1966)
    1:00 AM Dementia 13 (1963)
    2:30 AM The Terror (1963)

    SATURDAY, April 18
    10:00 AM Tarzan's Fight for Life (1958)

    TUESDAY, April 21
    4:15 PM Picnic at Hanging Rock (1975)

    THURSDAY, April 23
    1:15 AM Camelot (1967)

    FRIDAY, April 24
    8:00 AM The Canterville Ghost (1944)
    10:00 AM Beauty and the Beast (1946)

    SATURDAY, April 25

    1:15 AM Roger Corman: The Pope of Pop Cinema (2021)
    3:45 AM Made in England: The Films of Powell and
    Pressburger (2024)
    10:00 AM Tarzan's Greatest Adventure (1959)
    3:45 PM The Bad Seed (1956)
    8:00 PM Arsenic and Old Lace (1944)

    MONDAY, April 27
    8:00 PM Man of La Mancha (1972)
    10:30 PM More Than a Miracle (1967)

    TUESDAY, April 28
    6:00 AM Man of Aran (1934)
    6:15 PM The Incredible Mr. Limpet (1964)

    [-ecl]

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    TOPIC: Ray Harryhausen Films, Part 07 (film comments by Evelyn
    C. Leeper)

    Just when you thought the Harryhausen articles were done...

    There were five Harryhausen feature films that Harryhausen did not
    do with Charles H. Schneer:
    - MIGHTY JOE YOUNG (1949)
    - THE BEAST FROM 20,000 FATHOMS (1953)
    - THE ANIMAL WORLD (1956)
    - THE STRANGE WORLD OF PLANET X (COSMIC MONSTERS) (1958)
    - ONE MILLION YEARS B.C. (1966)

    And since I commented on the twelve he did with Schneer, I suppose
    I should include these for completeness as well.

    MIGHTY JOE YOUNG (1949): Harryhausen was listed as "First
    Technician" while Willis O'Brien was "Technical Creator". I think
    this may reflect that O'Brien may have designed Mighty Joe Young
    and other effects, but Harryhausen actually executed them.

    Terry Moore said when she made the film, she figured it would be
    one of her lesser-known films. Little did she know--it is probably
    her only film that most people know. This is a common story. Jack
    Arnold was surprised to discover he had become an auteur figure in
    science fiction film. And many of the leading ladies in 1950s
    science fiction films discovered that they had a profitable second
    career selling autographed photos and as guests of science fiction
    and film conventions.

    The nightclub destruction scene is truly amazing: incredibly
    complicated, with not just one or two creatures to animate, but
    many levels of animation, including large amount of falling
    material which also needed to be animated frame by frame.

    Unlike later films of Harryhausen, there were not even drawings in
    the actors' scripts to help them visualize their scenes.

    Released theatrically 27 July 1949.

    Film Credits:
    <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0041650/reference>

    What others are saying: <https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1013884-mighty_joe_young>


    THE BEAST FROM 20,000 FATHOMS (1953): THE BEAST FROM 20,000
    FATHOMS was Ray Harryhausen's first solo feature film effort. (He
    did most of the stop motion work on MIGHTY JOE YOUNG (1949), but
    Willis O'Brien got the official credit.) One can quibble about the
    construction of the Beast--though it is called a dinosaur, its
    legs come out from its sides rather than extending directly down.
    The latter is one of the defining features of a dinosaur.

    The opening talks about "X-Day" and H-Hour"; I guess "D-Day" was
    taken. Luckily movies got rid of those annoying opening
    narrations, or at least changed them to written scrolls, which
    were famously used in the "Star Wars" films.

    George says he can't move and something is wrong with his legs,
    and then immediately after, he moves around, including his legs.

    Released theatrically 13 June 1953.

    Film Credits:
    <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045546/reference>

    What others are saying: <https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/beast_from_20000_fathoms>


    [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: IF ANYONE BUILDS IT, EVERYONE DIES by Eliezer Yudkowsky and
    Nate Soares (comments by Jerry Williams)

    I have not read this book [IF ANYONE BUILDS IT, EVERYONE DIES: WHY
    SUPERHUMAN AI WOULD KILL US ALL], although when I hear folks
    getting paranoid about how AI could kill us all, I feel compelled
    to point out one crucial fact:

    If you think that this *can* happen, you need to assume that it
    already *did* happen. It's a big universe. Maybe that's the
    missing factor in the Drake equation. It's not enough to stop it
    on our planet, you'd need to go back in time and make sure that no
    other civilization ever did it. Or you need to figure out how to
    defend yourself against it before it comes for you.

    In *that* context, what could possibly defend us from an AI intent
    on conquering/destroying/replacing all organic life in the
    universe? Ultimately you'll need some sort of AI defenders,
    presumably. So the key isn't how to block AI from going forward,
    it's building one correctly and in time to protect against
    something like that. I'm not saying that this defender necessarily
    needs to be ASI or even AGI, but it's going to need to be (and
    learn) smart and fast.

    Fortunately (or not depending on how close you believe the DARK
    FOREST may be), we're nowhere near truly self-aware AI, although
    the cat is already out of the bag to the degree that rogue
    governments and individuals are using generative AI for evil
    purposes, and that can't be stopped easily without some sort of AI
    defense.

    So maybe let's focus on building that instead. [-gw]

    Evelyn notes:

    That all civilizations are eventually destroyed by AI has been
    given as a possible solution to the Fermi Paradox. See, for
    example

    <https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ most-aliens-may-be-artificial-intelligence-not-life-as-we-know-it/>

    [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: Notes on DUNE MESSIAH by Frank Herbert (comments by Paul
    S. R. Chisholm)

    The first chapter is a historical overview. Each of the next
    sixteen chapters depicts a meeting, usually a conspiracy; often, a
    single sentence of dialogue is followed by multiple chapters of
    introspection: "What did he really mean by that?" (Really, could
    none of these meetings have been an email?) Finally, in chapter 18
    (of 24), something happens. More actions and more meetings lead to
    the book's finale.

    Herbert introduces some "technologies" that seem more like fantasy
    than science fiction. Functional artificial eyes made of steel.
    Radiation that produces a very specific, peculiar damage. Cloning,
    or something like it. Human shapeshifters.

    The novel advances the story of the Atreides family. Despite my
    tone, I think I enjoyed it. Onto the third book. [-psrc]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: Dangers of A.I. (comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    Apparently, one danger is dancing robots going rogue:

    <https://www.sfgate.com/food/article/ viral-dancing-robot-haidilao-22088101.php>

    (Though apparently in this case the problem was error on the part
    of the humans who placed the robot too close to the dining table.)
    [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    TOPIC: This Week's Reading (book comments by Evelyn C. Leeper)

    More from ORWELL'S ESSAYS by George Orwell (Everyman, ISBN
    978-0-375-41503-6):

    "As I Please 10" (Tribune, 4 February 1944): In this essay we see
    the beginnings of that aspect of 1984 where the government
    re-writes history. He writes, "Up to a fairly recent date, the
    major events recorded in the history books probably happened. It
    is probably true that the battle of Hastings was fought in 1066,
    that Columbus discovered America, that Henry VIII had six wives,
    and so on. A certain degree of truthfulness was possible so long
    as it was admitted that a fact may be true even if you don't like
    it."

    He then gives an example of how history books are written by the
    winners: "This kind of thing is happening all the time. Out of the
    millions of instances which must be available, I will choose one
    which happens to be verifiable. During part of 1941 and 1942, when
    the Luftwaffe was busy in Russia, the German radio regaled its
    home audiences with stories of devastating air raids on London.
    Now, we are aware that those raids did not happen. But what use
    would our knowledge be if the Germans conquered Britain? For the
    purposes of a future historian, did those raids happen, or didn't
    they? The answer is: If Hitler survives, they happened, and if he
    falls they didn't happen. So with innumerable other events of the
    past ten or twenty years. Is the Protocols of the Elders of Zion a
    genuine document? Did Trotsky plot with the Nazis? How many German
    aeroplanes were shot down in the Battle of Britain? Does Europe
    welcome the New Order? In no case do you get one answer which is
    universally accepted because it is true: in each case you get a
    number of totally incompatible answers, one of which is finally
    adopted as the result of a physical struggle. History is written
    by the winners."

    Admittedly this addresses only a single re-write, but there is no
    reason not to extend this to constantly changing the "truth", as
    we have been seeing even now. Orwell at least has some optimism:
    "There is some hope ... that the liberal habit of mind, which
    thinks of truth as something outside yourself, something to be
    discovered, and not as something you can make up as you go along,
    will survive."

    "The English People" (written in 1944, published in 1947): This
    long essay (40 pages in the Everyman edition) was commissioned by
    Orwell's editor on request from the Ministry of Information.
    Orwell disliked it, described it as "silly" and "propaganda" and
    refused to allow it to be reprinted in his lifetime. (Given that
    he lists the national characteristics as "suspicion of foreigners, sentimentality about animals, hypocrisy, exaggerated class
    distinctions and an obsession with sport," I'm not sure who he was propagandizing for.) Now it is available in this Everyman
    collection, as well as in ORWELL'S ENGLAND from Penguin.

    The six sections are "England at First Glance", "The Moral Outlook
    of the English People", "The Political Outlook of the English
    People", "The English Class System", "The English Language", and
    "The Future of the English People". While many of his claims (and
    predictions) are questionable, the section on the English class
    system is certainly worth reading (especially for those who didn't
    grow up in it), and I found the section on the English language of
    great interest. On the other hand, the section on the future of
    the English people suffers from the same problems as Orwell's
    other predictions--or anyone's, come to that. For example, he
    thinks that England "will remain on good terms with Russia and
    Europe, will keep its special links with America and the
    Dominions, and will solve the problem of India in some amicable
    way." [-ecl]

    ===================================================================

    Evelyn C. Leeper
    evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com


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    "Evelyn C. Leeper" <evelynchimelisleeper@gmail.com> writes:

    TOPIC: Notes on DUNE MESSIAH by Frank Herbert (comments by Paul
    S. R. Chisholm)

    [...]

    (Really, could none of these meetings have been an email?)

    Well, no, they couldn't. Butlerian Jihad and all that.
    --
    Steve Coltrin spcoltri@omcl.org
    "A group known as the League of Human Dignity helped arrange for Deuel
    to be driven to a local livestock scale, where he could be weighed."
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