I've just finished rewatching The Brain of Morbius for the first time in >what must be decades.
The time flew by in an instant and it brought back old memories of when
I first watched it as a child.
Unlike the modern garbage every single second counted, was not boring,
was not irrelevant soap opera shoehorned in as padding, and was filled
with plot, world building, scientific exposition, with every word said >having meaning, every scene filmed adding to the suspension of disbelief
and taking you into a new world with a different history and culture
from ours, every action made and secret revealed was competency
necessary, and the acting was superb, especially Elizabeth Sladen's
totally convincing performance as a blind woman stumbling into things
and trying to feel her way around her environment with her eyes wide open.
There were plot twists and role reversals throughout with Solon played
by Philip Madock first getting the upper, then the Doctor played by Tom >Baker, then back again until the end.
Both the Doctor and Sarah Jane, and even Solon, provided perfect
examples to encourage people watching to get into STEM, using scientific >methodology in contrast to the Sisterhood of the Flame demonstrating
that witchcraft and mysticism provided no learning or understanding as
their final reward.
No wonder this episode has always been regarded as a classic.
Terrance Dicks ripped of Frankenstein in the best way possible, with the >aspects of the original monster being split between two different >characters, Condo and Morbius. Condo along with his main role as Igor
also took on the part in the original plot where the Frankenstein
monster encounters the young girl, with that role belonging to Sarah
Jane. Morbius plays the monster on the rampage, and then gaining >intelligence.
This all brings us to the climax of the story with the Time Lord mind
game between the Doctor and Morbius. Watching this again with an open
mind it was perfectly natural that both now and when I was a child is
that the Doctor always had the upper hand on Morbius in the game.
Morbius uses all of his power to bring the Doctor's mind back to his
William Hartnell incarnation as the first Doctor, with no other
incarnation before him. Then the Doctor. The Doctor is always winning.
When Morbius forces him to think like Hartnell the Doctors bounced back
and forces Morbius through is previous incarnations with Morbius
screening for the Doctor go back to his start, meaning Hartnell. The
idea that all of the other faces were those of the Doctor is totally >ridiculous and doesn't fit in with the scene or how it was filmed. The >Doctor is always in charge, because the brain of Morbius had been
dropped on the floor by Solon when he was getting it out of its
cylindrical tub to be transplanted. Morbius cannot defeat the Doctor
using his mind, but detaches himself from the machine and runs away
causing it to blow up and failing to force the Doctor back to Hartnell.
Thus the Doctor without Morbius there being takes the full shock of the >recoil and falls to the ground.
There is no way the degenerate Chris Chibnall and Russell T Davies can >credibly use this scene to justify the incarnations of the Timeless
Child monster. Those were all the faces of Morbius and that is what I >thought when the story was originally shown on TV and is still what I >thought watching it again with an open mind. It was always clear from
the way it was acted that the Doctor defeated Morbius who ran away to be >chased out of Solon's laboratory by the Sisterhood emulating the ending
of the original movie version of Frankenstein.
We also learn that Solon was from Earth far into Sarah Jane's future,
and that the Doctor, who is over 700 years old was born a billion miles
away from Karn, so probably in the same solar system, hundreds of years >after Morbius was put to death by the Time Lords after ravaging the
galaxy when he was on the High Council. We never learn how his brain
escaped complete obliteration, or what he was ultimately planning with >Solon. Earth at this time knows almost everything about the Time Lords. >Maybe Donald Trump will release the files about them held by the United >Nations Intelligence Taskforce when he release the files the US holds on >aliens visiting Earth as he has promised?
Unlike the badly written and badly conceived modern woke shit, this
story gets you thinking and asking questions about the meaning of life
and immortality, as well as the moral justification of scientific >experimentation. Why didn't Solon save himself all the trouble and just >transplant the brain of Morbius into the fully intact body and head of >Condo? It would have been far easier to do that instead of building a
new body with parts of other life forms that crashed on the plant, but
Solon wanted to be like God and create new life of his own.
What similar questions have the degenerate sex obsessed perverts Davies, >Moffat, and Chibnall ever got anyone to ask?
Terrance Dicks wrote the basis for this story (under the pen name Robin >Bland) and this is a perfect example of how to write and how to script
edit (Robert Holmes).
If this story had been made on film instead of shitty 1970s TV cameras
which all suffered from colour field alignment problems causing
something similar to chromatic aberration, but worse, burn-in, causing >coloured trails every time there was movement of a bight light, and
ringing every time there was a percussive explosion like when a gun was >fire, it would have been perfect and we'd be able to watch it again in
4K today. The special effects were as good as they could have been at
the time this story was made. The real problem isn't the effects, its
the fact that it was made on video with vidicon tube based cameras that >everyone in the United States has always know were never fit to make
colour television. Who did the BBC put -u300,000 lenses on these things
when the cameras could not even justify a -u300? They should have spent
the money on film.
Unlike today's woke garbage the BBC back in the 1970's built elaborate
sets for the whole of this entire story which cannot be bettered today,
and used back projection to make it look like it was taking place both >indoors and out. This is no different to the way The Mandelorian was
filmed with a giant microLED wall behind the actors or how movies in the >1950s were made. So why are we getting all of these bullshit excuses
that the BBC cannot afford to make Doctor Who and needed the money from
Woke Disney? It's all a pack of lies along with everything that Davies, >Moffat, and Chibnall have ever uttered about the show.
It's good writing that matters with the writers and producers knowing
what can and can't be done with the technology available and how to use
use it in the right way. This was known in the 70s but the knowledge has
all been lost today due to degenerate woke DEI taking precedence over
talent and ability.
The Brain of Morbius is a perfect example of brilliant story telling, >brilliant writing, brilliant acting, and brilliant cinematography.
10/10!
--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
I've just finished rewatching The Brain of Morbius for
the first time in what must be decades.
The time flew by in an instant and it brought back old
memories of when I first watched it as a child.
Unlike the modern garbage every single second counted, was not
boring, was not irrelevant soap opera shoehorned in as
padding, and was filled with plot, world building, scientific
exposition, with every word said having meaning, every scene
filmed adding to the suspension of disbelief and taking you
into a new world with a different history and culture from
ours, every action made and secret revealed was competency
necessary, and the acting was superb, especially Elizabeth
Sladen's totally convincing performance as a blind woman
stumbling into things and trying to feel her way around her
environment with her eyes wide open.
There were plot twists and role reversals throughout with
Solon played by Philip Madock first getting the upper, then
the Doctor played by Tom Baker, then back again until the end.
Both the Doctor and Sarah Jane, and even Solon, provided
perfect examples to encourage people watching to get into
STEM, using scientific methodology in contrast to the
Sisterhood of the Flame demonstrating that witchcraft and
mysticism provided no learning or understanding as their final
reward.
No wonder this episode has always been regarded as a classic.
Terrance Dicks ripped of Frankenstein in the best way
possible, with the aspects of the original monster being split
between two different characters, Condo and Morbius. Condo
along with his main role as Igor also took on the part in the
original plot where the Frankenstein monster encounters the
young girl, with that role belonging to Sarah Jane. Morbius
plays the monster on the rampage, and then gaining
intelligence.
This all brings us to the climax of the story with the Time
Lord mind game between the Doctor and Morbius. Watching this
again with an open mind it was perfectly natural that both now
and when I was a child is that the Doctor always had the upper
hand on Morbius in the game. Morbius uses all of his power to
bring the Doctor's mind back to his William Hartnell
incarnation as the first Doctor, with no other incarnation
before him. Then the Doctor. The Doctor is always winning.
When Morbius forces him to think like Hartnell the Doctors
bounced back and forces Morbius through is previous
incarnations with Morbius screening for the Doctor go back to
his start, meaning Hartnell.
The idea that all of the other faces were those of the Doctor
is totally ridiculous and doesn't fit in with the scene or how
it was filmed.
The Doctor is always in charge, because the brain of Morbius
had been dropped on the floor by Solon when he was getting it
out of its cylindrical tub to be transplanted. Morbius cannot
defeat the Doctor using his mind, but detaches himself from the
machine and runs away causing it to blow up and failing to
force the Doctor back to Hartnell. Thus the Doctor without
Morbius there being takes the full shock of the recoil and
falls to the ground.
There is no way the degenerate Chris Chibnall and Russell T
Davies can credibly use this scene to justify the incarnations
of the Timeless Child monster. Those were all the faces of
Morbius and that is what I thought when the story was
originally shown on TV and is still what I thought watching it
again with an open mind. It was always clear from the way it
was acted that the Doctor defeated Morbius who ran away to be
chased out of Solon's laboratory by the Sisterhood emulating
the ending of the original movie version of Frankenstein.
We also learn that Solon was from Earth far into Sarah Jane's
future, and that the Doctor, who is over 700 years old was
born a billion miles away from Karn, so probably in the same
solar system, hundreds of years after Morbius was put to death
by the Time Lords after ravaging the galaxy when he was on the
High Council. We never learn how his brain escaped complete
obliteration, or what he was ultimately planning with Solon.
Earth at this time knows almost everything about the Time
Lords.
Maybe Donald Trump will release the files about them
held by the United Nations Intelligence Taskforce when he
release the files the US holds on aliens visiting Earth as
he has promised?
Unlike the badly written and badly conceived modern woke shit,
this story gets you thinking and asking questions about the
meaning of life and immortality, as well as the moral
justification of scientific experimentation. Why didn't Solon
save himself all the trouble and just transplant the brain of
Morbius into the fully intact body and head of Condo? It would
have been far easier to do that instead of building a new body
with parts of other life forms that crashed on the plant, but
Solon wanted to be like God and create new life of his own.
What similar questions have the degenerate sex obsessed
perverts Davies, Moffat, and Chibnall ever got anyone to ask?
Terrance Dicks wrote the basis for this story (under the pen
name Robin Bland) and this is a perfect example of how to
write and how to script edit (Robert Holmes).
If this story had been made on film instead of shitty 1970s TV
cameras which all suffered from colour field alignment
problems causing something similar to chromatic aberration,
but worse, burn-in, causing coloured trails every time there
was movement of a bight light, and ringing every time there
was a percussive explosion like when a gun was fire, it would
have been perfect and we'd be able to watch it again in 4K
today. The special effects were as good as they could have
been at the time this story was made. The real problem isn't
the effects, its the fact that it was made on video with
vidicon tube based cameras that everyone in the United States
has always know were never fit to make colour television. Who
did the BBC put -u300,000 lenses on these things when the
cameras could not even justify a -u300? They should have spent
the money on film.
Unlike today's woke garbage the BBC back in the 1970's built
elaborate sets for the whole of this entire story which cannot
be bettered today, and used back projection to make it look
like it was taking place both indoors and out. This is no
different to the way The Mandelorian was filmed with a giant
microLED wall behind the actors or how movies in the 1950s
were made. So why are we getting all of these bullshit excuses
that the BBC cannot afford to make Doctor Who and needed the
money from Woke Disney? It's all a pack of lies along with
everything that Davies, Moffat, and Chibnall have ever uttered
about the show.
It's good writing that matters with the writers and producers
knowing what can and can't be done with the technology
available and how to use use it in the right way. This was
known in the 70s but the knowledge has all been lost today due
to degenerate woke DEI taking precedence over talent and
ability.
The Brain of Morbius is a perfect example of brilliant story
telling, brilliant writing, brilliant acting, and brilliant
cinematography.
10/10!
The True Doctor wrote:
I've just finished rewatching The Brain of Morbius for
the first time in what must be decades.
The time flew by in an instant and it brought back old
memories of when I first watched it as a child.
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
Fortunately, I watched this episode not that long ago when
the Season 13 "Doctor Who Collection Blu-Ray" arrived late last
year.
Unlike the modern garbage every single second counted, was not
boring, was not irrelevant soap opera shoehorned in as
padding, and was filled with plot, world building, scientific
exposition, with every word said having meaning, every scene
filmed adding to the suspension of disbelief and taking you
into a new world with a different history and culture from
ours, every action made and secret revealed was competency
necessary, and the acting was superb, especially Elizabeth
Sladen's totally convincing performance as a blind woman
stumbling into things and trying to feel her way around her
environment with her eyes wide open.
The first three episodes build tension steadily, but episode
four had to resolve the mind duel, the Sisterhood's arc, Solon's
schemes, as well as the rampaging monster... watching it now the
last episode feels a bit rushed.
It doesn't change the fact that the performances and writing
were top notch. "The Brain of Morbius" wasn't just Doctor Who at
its best, this was British TV at its best!
There were plot twists and role reversals throughout with
Solon played by Philip Madock first getting the upper, then
the Doctor played by Tom Baker, then back again until the end.
Both the Doctor and Sarah Jane, and even Solon, provided
perfect examples to encourage people watching to get into
STEM, using scientific methodology in contrast to the
Sisterhood of the Flame demonstrating that witchcraft and
mysticism provided no learning or understanding as their final
reward.
No wonder this episode has always been regarded as a classic.
It's definitely one of the classics. It's head and shoulders -
quality wise - above modern Doctor Who.
Terrance Dicks ripped of Frankenstein in the best way
possible, with the aspects of the original monster being split
between two different characters, Condo and Morbius. Condo
along with his main role as Igor also took on the part in the
original plot where the Frankenstein monster encounters the
young girl, with that role belonging to Sarah Jane. Morbius
plays the monster on the rampage, and then gaining
intelligence.
This all brings us to the climax of the story with the Time
Lord mind game between the Doctor and Morbius. Watching this
again with an open mind it was perfectly natural that both now
and when I was a child is that the Doctor always had the upper
hand on Morbius in the game. Morbius uses all of his power to
bring the Doctor's mind back to his William Hartnell
incarnation as the first Doctor, with no other incarnation
before him. Then the Doctor. The Doctor is always winning.
When Morbius forces him to think like Hartnell the Doctors
bounced back and forces Morbius through is previous
incarnations with Morbius screening for the Doctor go back to
his start, meaning Hartnell.
I'm not sure after all this time it's possible to have a
completely open mind. Usually once Doctor Who fans have made
up their minds about something it's often hard to shift them.
The idea that all of the other faces were those of the Doctor
is totally ridiculous and doesn't fit in with the scene or how
it was filmed.
Why would the Producers say otherwise then? It wasn't ridiculous
to them! Especially as the filmed faces were some of the
production crew. Misguided? Possibly. But somebody must have
thought it was a good idea at the time. (Dicks didn't! We know
that now.)
In 1976 no child cared who the faces were, all that mattered was
that our hero - The Doctor - didn't die.
And Sarah-Jane wasn't blind!
All that faces mumbo jumbo cropped up in fandom later on, and
those arguments often take away from the quality that this story
delivered.
The Doctor is always in charge, because the brain of Morbius
had been dropped on the floor by Solon when he was getting it
out of its cylindrical tub to be transplanted. Morbius cannot
defeat the Doctor using his mind, but detaches himself from the
machine and runs away causing it to blow up and failing to
force the Doctor back to Hartnell. Thus the Doctor without
Morbius there being takes the full shock of the recoil and
falls to the ground.
There is no way the degenerate Chris Chibnall and Russell T
Davies can credibly use this scene to justify the incarnations
of the Timeless Child monster. Those were all the faces of
Morbius and that is what I thought when the story was
originally shown on TV and is still what I thought watching it
again with an open mind. It was always clear from the way it
was acted that the Doctor defeated Morbius who ran away to be
chased out of Solon's laboratory by the Sisterhood emulating
the ending of the original movie version of Frankenstein.
We also learn that Solon was from Earth far into Sarah Jane's
future, and that the Doctor, who is over 700 years old was
born a billion miles away from Karn, so probably in the same
solar system, hundreds of years after Morbius was put to death
by the Time Lords after ravaging the galaxy when he was on the
High Council. We never learn how his brain escaped complete
obliteration, or what he was ultimately planning with Solon.
Earth at this time knows almost everything about the Time
Lords.
Philip Madoc stole the show as Solon. What a villain!
Maybe Donald Trump will release the files about them
held by the United Nations Intelligence Taskforce when he
release the files the US holds on aliens visiting Earth as
he has promised?
Looks like he's too busy starting wars.
Unlike the badly written and badly conceived modern woke shit,
this story gets you thinking and asking questions about the
meaning of life and immortality, as well as the moral
justification of scientific experimentation. Why didn't Solon
save himself all the trouble and just transplant the brain of
Morbius into the fully intact body and head of Condo? It would
have been far easier to do that instead of building a new body
with parts of other life forms that crashed on the plant, but
Solon wanted to be like God and create new life of his own.
What similar questions have the degenerate sex obsessed
perverts Davies, Moffat, and Chibnall ever got anyone to ask?
If we are going to do reviews of classic era episodes can we
just stick to that, don't spoil it with political agendas. RTD,
Moffat and Chibnall had nothing whatsoever to do with classic
era Doctor Who (fortunately!) so let's keep them out of it. It's
bad enough that Chris Chibnall used the faces ambiguity to
create the Fugitive Doctor. Their eras fail miserably when
compared to these classic stories.
Terrance Dicks wrote the basis for this story (under the pen
name Robin Bland) and this is a perfect example of how to
write and how to script edit (Robert Holmes).
It is not flawless, but the story is strong enough that it still
stands out as a highlight of the Tom Baker era... and classic
era Doctor Who as a whole.
Some of Solon's decisions are more "because the plot needs it"
than strictly logical, and a few of the side-characters make
choices that are just to keep things moving along, not because
they actually make any sense. As children we wouldn't have
noticed those minor blemishes, but when watching the episodes
now as adults they are noticeable. (Most Doctor Who suffers from
this sort of thing, children are less inclined to nitpick
though!)
If this story had been made on film instead of shitty 1970s TV
cameras which all suffered from colour field alignment
problems causing something similar to chromatic aberration,
but worse, burn-in, causing coloured trails every time there
was movement of a bight light, and ringing every time there
was a percussive explosion like when a gun was fire, it would
have been perfect and we'd be able to watch it again in 4K
today. The special effects were as good as they could have
been at the time this story was made. The real problem isn't
the effects, its the fact that it was made on video with
vidicon tube based cameras that everyone in the United States
has always know were never fit to make colour television. Who
did the BBC put -u300,000 lenses on these things when the
cameras could not even justify a -u300? They should have spent
the money on film.
Video - or film - quality of Doctor Who episodes never mattered
to the ten year old me watching "The Brain of Morbius" on our
small Colour TV back in 1976. It was gritty, atmospheric and
scary! I was hooked.
Unlike today's woke garbage the BBC back in the 1970's built
elaborate sets for the whole of this entire story which cannot
be bettered today, and used back projection to make it look
like it was taking place both indoors and out. This is no
different to the way The Mandelorian was filmed with a giant
microLED wall behind the actors or how movies in the 1950s
were made. So why are we getting all of these bullshit excuses
that the BBC cannot afford to make Doctor Who and needed the
money from Woke Disney? It's all a pack of lies along with
everything that Davies, Moffat, and Chibnall have ever uttered
about the show.
It's good writing that matters with the writers and producers
knowing what can and can't be done with the technology
available and how to use use it in the right way. This was
known in the 70s but the knowledge has all been lost today due
to degenerate woke DEI taking precedence over talent and
ability.
The Brain of Morbius is a perfect example of brilliant story
telling, brilliant writing, brilliant acting, and brilliant
cinematography.
10/10!
Taken as a whole, "The Brain of Morbius" is a richly atmospheric
piece of horror tinged Doctor Who. Almost a kid's Hammer Horror.
I'd go 9/10
The True Doctor wrote:
I've just finished rewatching The Brain of Morbius for
the first time in what must be decades.
The time flew by in an instant and it brought back old
memories of when I first watched it as a child.
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
Fortunately, I watched this episode not that long ago when
the Season 13 "Doctor Who Collection Blu-Ray" arrived late last
year.
Unlike the modern garbage every single second counted, was not
boring, was not irrelevant soap opera shoehorned in as
padding, and was filled with plot, world building, scientific
exposition, with every word said having meaning, every scene
filmed adding to the suspension of disbelief and taking you
into a new world with a different history and culture from
ours, every action made and secret revealed was competency
necessary, and the acting was superb, especially Elizabeth
Sladen's totally convincing performance as a blind woman
stumbling into things and trying to feel her way around her
environment with her eyes wide open.
The first three episodes build tension steadily, but episode
four had to resolve the mind duel, the Sisterhood's arc, Solon's
schemes, as well as the rampaging monster... watching it now the
last episode feels a bit rushed.
It doesn't change the fact that the performances and writing
were top notch. "The Brain of Morbius" wasn't just Doctor Who at
its best, this was British TV at its best!
There were plot twists and role reversals throughout with
Solon played by Philip Madock first getting the upper, then
the Doctor played by Tom Baker, then back again until the end.
Both the Doctor and Sarah Jane, and even Solon, provided
perfect examples to encourage people watching to get into
STEM, using scientific methodology in contrast to the
Sisterhood of the Flame demonstrating that witchcraft and
mysticism provided no learning or understanding as their final
reward.
No wonder this episode has always been regarded as a classic.
It's definitely one of the classics. It's head and shoulders -
quality wise - above modern Doctor Who.
Terrance Dicks ripped of Frankenstein in the best way
possible, with the aspects of the original monster being split
between two different characters, Condo and Morbius. Condo
along with his main role as Igor also took on the part in the
original plot where the Frankenstein monster encounters the
young girl, with that role belonging to Sarah Jane. Morbius
plays the monster on the rampage, and then gaining
intelligence.
This all brings us to the climax of the story with the Time
Lord mind game between the Doctor and Morbius. Watching this
again with an open mind it was perfectly natural that both now
and when I was a child is that the Doctor always had the upper
hand on Morbius in the game. Morbius uses all of his power to
bring the Doctor's mind back to his William Hartnell
incarnation as the first Doctor, with no other incarnation
before him. Then the Doctor. The Doctor is always winning.
When Morbius forces him to think like Hartnell the Doctors
bounced back and forces Morbius through is previous
incarnations with Morbius screening for the Doctor go back to
his start, meaning Hartnell.
I'm not sure after all this time it's possible to have a
completely open mind. Usually once Doctor Who fans have made
up their minds about something it's often hard to shift them.
The idea that all of the other faces were those of the Doctor
is totally ridiculous and doesn't fit in with the scene or how
it was filmed.
Why would the Producers say otherwise then? It wasn't ridiculous
to them! Especially as the filmed faces were some of the
production crew. Misguided? Possibly. But somebody must have
thought it was a good idea at the time. (Dicks didn't! We know
that now.)
In 1976 no child cared who the faces were, all that mattered was
that our hero - The Doctor - didn't die.
And Sarah-Jane wasn't blind!
All that faces mumbo jumbo cropped up in fandom later on, and
those arguments often take away from the quality that this story
delivered.
The Doctor is always in charge, because the brain of Morbius
had been dropped on the floor by Solon when he was getting it
out of its cylindrical tub to be transplanted. Morbius cannot
defeat the Doctor using his mind, but detaches himself from the
machine and runs away causing it to blow up and failing to
force the Doctor back to Hartnell. Thus the Doctor without
Morbius there being takes the full shock of the recoil and
falls to the ground.
There is no way the degenerate Chris Chibnall and Russell T
Davies can credibly use this scene to justify the incarnations
of the Timeless Child monster. Those were all the faces of
Morbius and that is what I thought when the story was
originally shown on TV and is still what I thought watching it
again with an open mind. It was always clear from the way it
was acted that the Doctor defeated Morbius who ran away to be
chased out of Solon's laboratory by the Sisterhood emulating
the ending of the original movie version of Frankenstein.
We also learn that Solon was from Earth far into Sarah Jane's
future, and that the Doctor, who is over 700 years old was
born a billion miles away from Karn, so probably in the same
solar system, hundreds of years after Morbius was put to death
by the Time Lords after ravaging the galaxy when he was on the
High Council. We never learn how his brain escaped complete
obliteration, or what he was ultimately planning with Solon.
Earth at this time knows almost everything about the Time
Lords.
Philip Madoc stole the show as Solon. What a villain!
Maybe Donald Trump will release the files about them
held by the United Nations Intelligence Taskforce when he
release the files the US holds on aliens visiting Earth as
he has promised?
Looks like he's too busy starting wars.
Unlike the badly written and badly conceived modern woke shit,
this story gets you thinking and asking questions about the
meaning of life and immortality, as well as the moral
justification of scientific experimentation. Why didn't Solon
save himself all the trouble and just transplant the brain of
Morbius into the fully intact body and head of Condo? It would
have been far easier to do that instead of building a new body
with parts of other life forms that crashed on the plant, but
Solon wanted to be like God and create new life of his own.
What similar questions have the degenerate sex obsessed
perverts Davies, Moffat, and Chibnall ever got anyone to ask?
If we are going to do reviews of classic era episodes can we
just stick to that, don't spoil it with political agendas. RTD,
Moffat and Chibnall had nothing whatsoever to do with classic
era Doctor Who (fortunately!) so let's keep them out of it. It's
bad enough that Chris Chibnall used the faces ambiguity to
create the Fugitive Doctor. Their eras fail miserably when
compared to these classic stories.
Terrance Dicks wrote the basis for this story (under the pen
name Robin Bland) and this is a perfect example of how to
write and how to script edit (Robert Holmes).
It is not flawless, but the story is strong enough that it still
stands out as a highlight of the Tom Baker era... and classic
era Doctor Who as a whole.
Some of Solon's decisions are more "because the plot needs it"
than strictly logical, and a few of the side-characters make
choices that are just to keep things moving along, not because
they actually make any sense. As children we wouldn't have
noticed those minor blemishes, but when watching the episodes
now as adults they are noticeable. (Most Doctor Who suffers from
this sort of thing, children are less inclined to nitpick
though!)
If this story had been made on film instead of shitty 1970s TV
cameras which all suffered from colour field alignment
problems causing something similar to chromatic aberration,
but worse, burn-in, causing coloured trails every time there
was movement of a bight light, and ringing every time there
was a percussive explosion like when a gun was fire, it would
have been perfect and we'd be able to watch it again in 4K
today. The special effects were as good as they could have
been at the time this story was made. The real problem isn't
the effects, its the fact that it was made on video with
vidicon tube based cameras that everyone in the United States
has always know were never fit to make colour television. Who
did the BBC put -u300,000 lenses on these things when the
cameras could not even justify a -u300? They should have spent
the money on film.
Video - or film - quality of Doctor Who episodes never mattered
to the ten year old me watching "The Brain of Morbius" on our
small Colour TV back in 1976. It was gritty, atmospheric and
scary! I was hooked.
Unlike today's woke garbage the BBC back in the 1970's built
elaborate sets for the whole of this entire story which cannot
be bettered today, and used back projection to make it look
like it was taking place both indoors and out. This is no
different to the way The Mandelorian was filmed with a giant
microLED wall behind the actors or how movies in the 1950s
were made. So why are we getting all of these bullshit excuses
that the BBC cannot afford to make Doctor Who and needed the
money from Woke Disney? It's all a pack of lies along with
everything that Davies, Moffat, and Chibnall have ever uttered
about the show.
It's good writing that matters with the writers and producers
knowing what can and can't be done with the technology
available and how to use use it in the right way. This was
known in the 70s but the knowledge has all been lost today due
to degenerate woke DEI taking precedence over talent and
ability.
The Brain of Morbius is a perfect example of brilliant story
telling, brilliant writing, brilliant acting, and brilliant
cinematography.
10/10!
Taken as a whole, "The Brain of Morbius" is a richly atmospheric
piece of horror tinged Doctor Who. Almost a kid's Hammer Horror.
I'd go 9/10
On 28/02/2026 11:24, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
I've just finished rewatching The Brain of Morbius for
the first time in what must be decades.
The time flew by in an instant and it brought back old
memories of when I first watched it as a child.
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
YW.
Fortunately, I watched this episode not that long ago when
the Season 13 "Doctor Who Collection Blu-Ray" arrived late last
year.
Unlike the modern garbage every single second counted, was not
boring, was not irrelevant soap opera shoehorned in as
padding, and was filled with plot, world building, scientific
exposition, with every word said having meaning, every scene
filmed adding to the suspension of disbelief and taking you
into a new world with a different history and culture from
ours, every action made and secret revealed was competency
necessary, and the acting was superb, especially Elizabeth
Sladen's totally convincing performance as a blind woman
stumbling into things and trying to feel her way around her
environment with her eyes wide open.
The first three episodes build tension steadily, but episode
four had to resolve the mind duel, the Sisterhood's arc, Solon's
schemes, as well as the rampaging monster... watching it now the
last episode feels a bit rushed.
It didn't feel rushed to me.
It doesn't change the fact that the performances and writing
were top notch. "The Brain of Morbius" wasn't just Doctor Who at
its best, this was British TV at its best!
It should have been given a BAFTA.
There were plot twists and role reversals throughout with
Solon played by Philip Madock first getting the upper, then
the Doctor played by Tom Baker, then back again until the end.
Both the Doctor and Sarah Jane, and even Solon, provided
perfect examples to encourage people watching to get into
STEM, using scientific methodology in contrast to the
Sisterhood of the Flame demonstrating that witchcraft and
mysticism provided no learning or understanding as their final
reward.
No wonder this episode has always been regarded as a classic.
It's definitely one of the classics. It's head and shoulders -
quality wise - above modern Doctor Who.
Today's writers don't care about quality. AI can write better than and
of these clueless hacks.
Terrance Dicks ripped of Frankenstein in the best way
possible, with the aspects of the original monster being split
between two different characters, Condo and Morbius. Condo
along with his main role as Igor also took on the part in the
original plot where the Frankenstein monster encounters the
young girl, with that role belonging to Sarah Jane. Morbius
plays the monster on the rampage, and then gaining
intelligence.
This all brings us to the climax of the story with the Time
Lord mind game between the Doctor and Morbius. Watching this
again with an open mind it was perfectly natural that both now
and when I was a child is that the Doctor always had the upper
hand on Morbius in the game. Morbius uses all of his power to
bring the Doctor's mind back to his William Hartnell
incarnation as the first Doctor, with no other incarnation
before him. Then the Doctor. The Doctor is always winning.
When Morbius forces him to think like Hartnell the Doctors
bounced back and forces Morbius through is previous
incarnations with Morbius screening for the Doctor go back to
his start, meaning Hartnell.
I'm not sure after all this time it's possible to have a
completely open mind. Usually once Doctor Who fans have made
up their minds about something it's often hard to shift them.
The idea that all of the other faces were those of the Doctor
is totally ridiculous and doesn't fit in with the scene or how
it was filmed.
Why would the Producers say otherwise then? It wasn't ridiculous
Bullshit as always. Since it was their faces they didn't want to say
they were playing the monster. There was a clear contrast between the
faces of the Doctor and those of Morbius so even if you didn't know the >previous incarnations you could tell which were the Doctor and which
were Morbius.
to them! Especially as the filmed faces were some of the
production crew. Misguided? Possibly. But somebody must have
thought it was a good idea at the time. (Dicks didn't! We know
that now.)
The contest was described in the story as Time Lord arm wrestling, and >that's what if felt like. First the Doctor and Morbius are moving one
way and then the other. Then the Doctor has the upper hand with all of
his faces showing as Morbius fought back. (Well well well, so that's
where that expression comes from.) Then Morbius has the upper hand or
claw, with all of his faces showing and the Doctor fights back. Morbius >knows he's being defeated as he's trying to push back to show the
Doctor's first incarnation again, which he fails to do, and then the
machine blows up and Morbius runs away, like the table you are arm
wrestling on collapsing, with the Doctor taking the shock.
In 1976 no child cared who the faces were, all that mattered was
that our hero - The Doctor - didn't die.
And Sarah-Jane wasn't blind!
Yes.
All that faces mumbo jumbo cropped up in fandom later on, and
those arguments often take away from the quality that this story
delivered.
The whole scene has been totally perverted by the woke degenerates. The >Doctor invited Morbius to the contest and Morbius reluctantly accepted,
so the Doctor knew he was stronger than Morbius. It thinks it's even in
the dialogue that the Doctor thought Morbius was weak.
The Doctor is always in charge, because the brain of Morbius
had been dropped on the floor by Solon when he was getting it
out of its cylindrical tub to be transplanted. Morbius cannot
defeat the Doctor using his mind, but detaches himself from the
machine and runs away causing it to blow up and failing to
force the Doctor back to Hartnell. Thus the Doctor without
Morbius there being takes the full shock of the recoil and
falls to the ground.
There is no way the degenerate Chris Chibnall and Russell T
Davies can credibly use this scene to justify the incarnations
of the Timeless Child monster. Those were all the faces of
Morbius and that is what I thought when the story was
originally shown on TV and is still what I thought watching it
again with an open mind. It was always clear from the way it
was acted that the Doctor defeated Morbius who ran away to be
chased out of Solon's laboratory by the Sisterhood emulating
the ending of the original movie version of Frankenstein.
We also learn that Solon was from Earth far into Sarah Jane's
future, and that the Doctor, who is over 700 years old was
born a billion miles away from Karn, so probably in the same
solar system, hundreds of years after Morbius was put to death
by the Time Lords after ravaging the galaxy when he was on the
High Council. We never learn how his brain escaped complete
obliteration, or what he was ultimately planning with Solon.
Earth at this time knows almost everything about the Time
Lords.
Philip Madoc stole the show as Solon. What a villain!
Yes. He was changing personality back and forth depending on what he
wanted and needed.
Maybe Donald Trump will release the files about them
held by the United Nations Intelligence Taskforce when he
release the files the US holds on aliens visiting Earth as
he has promised?
Looks like he's too busy starting wars.
Well, he needs to finish destroying Iran's nuclear programme quickly so
he can get back to releasing the X-Files, and no redacting UNIT from
them. Obviously it's now called the UNified Intelligence Taskforce
because he replaces the UN with his Board of Peace.
Unlike the badly written and badly conceived modern woke shit,
this story gets you thinking and asking questions about the
meaning of life and immortality, as well as the moral
justification of scientific experimentation. Why didn't Solon
save himself all the trouble and just transplant the brain of
Morbius into the fully intact body and head of Condo? It would
have been far easier to do that instead of building a new body
with parts of other life forms that crashed on the plant, but
Solon wanted to be like God and create new life of his own.
What similar questions have the degenerate sex obsessed
perverts Davies, Moffat, and Chibnall ever got anyone to ask?
If we are going to do reviews of classic era episodes can we
just stick to that, don't spoil it with political agendas. RTD,
Moffat and Chibnall had nothing whatsoever to do with classic
era Doctor Who (fortunately!) so let's keep them out of it. It's
bad enough that Chris Chibnall used the faces ambiguity to
create the Fugitive Doctor. Their eras fail miserably when
compared to these classic stories.
No one will remember the degenerate modern crap that they wrote or even
want to rewatch it and discuss it 50 years later.
Terrance Dicks wrote the basis for this story (under the pen
name Robin Bland) and this is a perfect example of how to
write and how to script edit (Robert Holmes).
It is not flawless, but the story is strong enough that it still
stands out as a highlight of the Tom Baker era... and classic
era Doctor Who as a whole.
Some of Solon's decisions are more "because the plot needs it"
than strictly logical, and a few of the side-characters make
choices that are just to keep things moving along, not because
they actually make any sense. As children we wouldn't have
noticed those minor blemishes, but when watching the episodes
now as adults they are noticeable. (Most Doctor Who suffers from
this sort of thing, children are less inclined to nitpick
though!)
And here's another question for the woke degenerates that perverted the >show. The Sisters of the Flame were clearly not Time Lords or they would >have regenerated instead of needing to keep taking the Elixir of Life
and they even state that first they were allies with the Time Lords and
then they made them their enemy despite helping them to defeat Morbius.
The Doctor said to them that he was born in these parts, meaning the
same solar system. Born, not loomed, and not regenerating from the
Timeless Child monster. Bron, so the Time Lords were never sterile. >Regeneration was something that came recently, probably within the last
one or two thousand years, during most of which the Timelords were
waging wars across the galaxy. As stated in The Underworld also written
by Terrance Dicks, first machines were used to regenerate, and then it >became all biological.
If this story had been made on film instead of shitty 1970s TV
cameras which all suffered from colour field alignment
problems causing something similar to chromatic aberration,
but worse, burn-in, causing coloured trails every time there
was movement of a bight light, and ringing every time there
was a percussive explosion like when a gun was fire, it would
have been perfect and we'd be able to watch it again in 4K
today. The special effects were as good as they could have
been at the time this story was made. The real problem isn't
the effects, its the fact that it was made on video with
vidicon tube based cameras that everyone in the United States
has always know were never fit to make colour television. Who
did the BBC put -u300,000 lenses on these things when the
cameras could not even justify a -u300? They should have spent
the money on film.
Video - or film - quality of Doctor Who episodes never mattered
to the ten year old me watching "The Brain of Morbius" on our
small Colour TV back in 1976. It was gritty, atmospheric and
scary! I was hooked.
I watched it in black and white but I remember it in colour. I used to
think it was my colour television that came later that caused all the >chromatic aberration. No. It was the rubbish colour video cameras the
BBC used. They should have made all dramas on film just like the US did
and could have edited them on video to save money.
Unlike today's woke garbage the BBC back in the 1970's built
elaborate sets for the whole of this entire story which cannot
be bettered today, and used back projection to make it look
like it was taking place both indoors and out. This is no
different to the way The Mandelorian was filmed with a giant
microLED wall behind the actors or how movies in the 1950s
were made. So why are we getting all of these bullshit excuses
that the BBC cannot afford to make Doctor Who and needed the
money from Woke Disney? It's all a pack of lies along with
everything that Davies, Moffat, and Chibnall have ever uttered
about the show.
It's good writing that matters with the writers and producers
knowing what can and can't be done with the technology
available and how to use use it in the right way. This was
known in the 70s but the knowledge has all been lost today due
to degenerate woke DEI taking precedence over talent and
ability.
The Brain of Morbius is a perfect example of brilliant story
telling, brilliant writing, brilliant acting, and brilliant
cinematography.
10/10!
Taken as a whole, "The Brain of Morbius" is a richly atmospheric
piece of horror tinged Doctor Who. Almost a kid's Hammer Horror.
I'd go 9/10
I think the series needs to be rebooted from the TV again in the orginal >manner of the series and all the RTD era should be completely erased
from canon. The fact that Solon, a human from Earth far into the Earths >future, interacted with the Sisterhood on Karn which was in the same
solar system as Gallifrey would explain why the Doctor had a human mother.
The society, history, and culture of the Time Lords needs to be expanded
in the way their creator Terrance Dicks intended it and showed it to be.
There was always the possibility that the Time Lords were originally
human from the future, and this story may have been one of the
contributing factors why I believed that as a child.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 28/02/2026 11:24, Blueshirt wrote:
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
YW.
Today's writers don't care about quality. AI can write better
than and of these clueless hacks.
No one will remember the degenerate modern crap that they
wrote or even want to rewatch it and discuss it 50 years later.
I think the series needs to be rebooted from the TV again in
the orginal manner of the series and all the RTD era should
be completely erased from canon.
In article <10nv6mu$3h359$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
There was always the possibility that the Time Lords
were originally human from the future, and this story
may have been one of the contributing factors why I
believed that as a child.
Makes sense!
The True Doctor wrote:
On 28/02/2026 11:24, Blueshirt wrote:
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
YW.
What story are we doing next week?
Today's writers don't care about quality. AI can write better
than and of these clueless hacks.
Can and probably does!
I reckon most of the modern writers on the show just feed their
ideas into Sudowrite and then create their scripts from the
story they get given back.
No one will remember the degenerate modern crap that they
wrote or even want to rewatch it and discuss it 50 years later.
I can see it now...
RADW Doctor Who Watch Party: Date, 10th May 2069:
Three AI writing bots spend days on the vacuum that RADW became
once we all died, going back and forth on the merits of "The
Woman Who Fell to Earth"...
A fourth AI bot then joins the fray and generates... "REtcon the
Timliess Childd" in multiple one-line responses... which causes
the other AI bots to have a meltdown and destroy the world.
I think the series needs to be rebooted from the TV again in
the orginal manner of the series and all the RTD era should
be completely erased from canon.
You always have go that one step too far, don't you?!
I do think that the show should be rebooted for a modern
audience... go back to an old man on Gallifrey that gets bored
with his stuffy peers and all their rules and regulations about non-interference, so decides to run away and explore the
Universe with a stolen time machine... a Time Lord that just
wants to have fun.
Forget retcon this, erase that... just start again. At the
beginning.
Which as we all know, is a very good place to start.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <10nv6mu$3h359$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
There was always the possibility that the Time Lords
were originally human from the future, and this story
may have been one of the contributing factors why I
believed that as a child.
Makes sense!
What also makes sense is that "The Doctor" is a clever
human, well educated (with a doctorate obviously), that
designs a time machine in his back garden, and then goes
off to have adventures with his granddaughter.
Some people seem to have a problem with this idea though...
<shrugs>
On 28/02/2026 18:20, Blueshirt wrote:
[quoted text muted]
YW.
What story are we doing next week?
The Seeds of Doom is next in the series
If you're going to remake An Unearthly Child it should be for the big
screen
The True Doctor wrote:
On 28/02/2026 11:24, Blueshirt wrote:
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
YW.
What story are we doing next week?
Today's writers don't care about quality. AI can write better
than and of these clueless hacks.
Can and probably does!
I reckon most of the modern writers on the show just feed their
ideas into Sudowrite and then create their scripts from the
story they get given back.
No one will remember the degenerate modern crap that they
wrote or even want to rewatch it and discuss it 50 years later.
I can see it now...
RADW Doctor Who Watch Party: Date, 10th May 2069:
Three AI writing bots spend days on the vacuum that RADW became
once we all died, going back and forth on the merits of "The
Woman Who Fell to Earth"...
A fourth AI bot then joins the fray and generates... "REtcon the
Timliess Childd" in multiple one-line responses... which causes
the other AI bots to have a meltdown and destroy the world.
I think the series needs to be rebooted from the TV again in
the orginal manner of the series and all the RTD era should
be completely erased from canon.
You always have go that one step too far, don't you?!
I do think that the show should be rebooted for a modern
audience... go back to an old man on Gallifrey that gets bored
with his stuffy peers and all their rules and regulations about >non-interference, so decides to run away and explore the
Universe with a stolen time machine... a Time Lord that just
wants to have fun.
Forget retcon this, erase that... just start again. At the
beginning.
Which as we all know, is a very good place to start.
The Doctor wrote:
In article <10nv6mu$3h359$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
There was always the possibility that the Time Lords
were originally human from the future, and this story
may have been one of the contributing factors why I
believed that as a child.
Makes sense!
What also makes sense is that "The Doctor" is a clever
human, well educated (with a doctorate obviously), that
designs a time machine in his back garden, and then goes
off to have adventures with his granddaughter.
Some people seem to have a problem with this idea though...
<shrugs>
On 28/02/2026 18:20, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 28/02/2026 11:24, Blueshirt wrote:
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
YW.
What story are we doing next week?
The Seeds of Doom is next in the series. I have been able to obtain a
free copy of it as is my right as a licence fee payer. Consider it a >recording of what used to be on iPlayer which I did not yet watch,
therefore it's no different to watching a video several years after you >recorded it and has been proven to be legal in court in the Bob
Monkhouse vs. the copyright conmen case of 1979ish.
Today's writers don't care about quality. AI can write better
than and of these clueless hacks.
Can and probably does!
I reckon most of the modern writers on the show just feed their
ideas into Sudowrite and then create their scripts from the
story they get given back.
No one will remember the degenerate modern crap that they
wrote or even want to rewatch it and discuss it 50 years later.
I can see it now...
RADW Doctor Who Watch Party: Date, 10th May 2069:
Three AI writing bots spend days on the vacuum that RADW became
once we all died, going back and forth on the merits of "The
Woman Who Fell to Earth"...
A fourth AI bot then joins the fray and generates... "REtcon the
Timliess Childd" in multiple one-line responses... which causes
the other AI bots to have a meltdown and destroy the world.
It the world has not already been destroyed before the AIs become the
only usenet users.
I think the series needs to be rebooted from the TV again in
the orginal manner of the series and all the RTD era should
be completely erased from canon.
You always have go that one step too far, don't you?!
I meant the TVM. We continue from where it left off. I want to see the >Doctor's human ancestry discussed along with proper Time Lords history
about how they all originated from Earth to begin with.
I do think that the show should be rebooted for a modern
audience... go back to an old man on Gallifrey that gets bored
The claim that there's such a thing as a modern audience is all
bullshit. The audience of Doctor Who has always been the same, people
have always been the same, ie. people who enjoy science fiction the way
it's supposed to be written which is the manner it has always been
written by good writers. Nothing should be 'modernised' for those who a >mentally deficient and low in intelligence. These degenerates who do not >understand literature should not be put above the majority of people who
do. Audiences should be treated with respect and not talked down to or >insulted and demeaned for having more intelligence that the clueless
modern writers who are no different to modern artists who paint worse >pictures than a monkey could paint.
with his stuffy peers and all their rules and regulations about
non-interference, so decides to run away and explore the
Universe with a stolen time machine... a Time Lord that just
wants to have fun.
That has already been done. We should therefore continue from where the
TVM left off exploring the Doctors human ancestors which is the reason
he came to Earth to begin with and no some other planet.
Forget retcon this, erase that... just start again. At the
beginning.
And then what? A Unearthly Child? The Daleks? What comes next? Remake
every episode that was written in the order it was originally broadcast? >Should the Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy eras be remade? Delta and the >Bannermen? Paradise Towers? How are you going to write new stories like >that?
Which as we all know, is a very good place to start.
Doctor Who is not Harry Potter and even with that I am not going to
waster 10 or 20 years watching a TV series when I already know what
happens and can read all of the books in less than a year.
If you're going to remake An Unearthly Child it should be for the big
screen and then you can choose all the best existing stories to remake
and film with lager sets and lots of extras on planets populated by more >than a hand full of people. But continue the TV series from the TVM and
and we can assume the movies all took place before that.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 28/02/2026 18:37, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
In article <10nv6mu$3h359$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
There was always the possibility that the Time Lords
were originally human from the future, and this story
may have been one of the contributing factors why I
believed that as a child.
Makes sense!
What also makes sense is that "The Doctor" is a clever
human, well educated (with a doctorate obviously), that
designs a time machine in his back garden, and then goes
off to have adventures with his granddaughter.
Some people seem to have a problem with this idea though...
<shrugs>
Well that's because it was plagiarised from Arnould Galopin.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
Verily, in article <10nvhbb$3l0gf$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
On 28/02/2026 18:20, Blueshirt wrote:
[quoted text muted]
YW.
What story are we doing next week?
The Seeds of Doom is next in the series
The Seeds of Doom it is.
If you're going to remake An Unearthly Child it should be for the big
screen
Good idea. I could see a Doctor origin movie.
Who should make it? We don't want somebody like Mindy Kaling on it. We
need a solid SF director who will respect the original and also has a
good sense of fun.
Hmm. Roland Emmerich might be a good choice.
----
The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
In article <MPG.440d20ab18a7274a989af8@news.eternal-september.org>,
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <10nvhbb$3l0gf$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
On 28/02/2026 18:20, Blueshirt wrote:
[quoted text muted]
YW.
What story are we doing next week?
The Seeds of Doom is next in the series
The Seeds of Doom it is.
If you're going to remake An Unearthly Child it should be for the big
screen
Good idea. I could see a Doctor origin movie.
Who should make it? We don't want somebody like Mindy Kaling on it. We
need a solid SF director who will respect the original and also has a
good sense of fun.
Hmm. Roland Emmerich might be a good choice.
Link to watch party please and time.
The True Doctor wrote:
I've just finished rewatching The Brain of Morbius for
the first time in what must be decades.
The time flew by in an instant and it brought back old
memories of when I first watched it as a child.
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
Fortunately, I watched this episode not that long ago when
the Season 13 "Doctor Who Collection Blu-Ray" arrived late last
year.
Unlike the modern garbage every single second counted, was not
boring, was not irrelevant soap opera shoehorned in as
padding, and was filled with plot, world building, scientific
exposition, with every word said having meaning, every scene
filmed adding to the suspension of disbelief and taking you
into a new world with a different history and culture from
ours, every action made and secret revealed was competency
necessary, and the acting was superb, especially Elizabeth
Sladen's totally convincing performance as a blind woman
stumbling into things and trying to feel her way around her
environment with her eyes wide open.
The first three episodes build tension steadily, but episode
four had to resolve the mind duel, the Sisterhood's arc, Solon's
schemes, as well as the rampaging monster... watching it now the
last episode feels a bit rushed.
It doesn't change the fact that the performances and writing
were top notch. "The Brain of Morbius" wasn't just Doctor Who at
its best, this was British TV at its best!
There were plot twists and role reversals throughout with
Solon played by Philip Madock first getting the upper, then
the Doctor played by Tom Baker, then back again until the end.
Both the Doctor and Sarah Jane, and even Solon, provided
perfect examples to encourage people watching to get into
STEM, using scientific methodology in contrast to the
Sisterhood of the Flame demonstrating that witchcraft and
mysticism provided no learning or understanding as their final
reward.
No wonder this episode has always been regarded as a classic.
It's definitely one of the classics. It's head and shoulders -
quality wise - above modern Doctor Who.
Terrance Dicks ripped of Frankenstein in the best way
possible, with the aspects of the original monster being split
between two different characters, Condo and Morbius. Condo
along with his main role as Igor also took on the part in the
original plot where the Frankenstein monster encounters the
young girl, with that role belonging to Sarah Jane. Morbius
plays the monster on the rampage, and then gaining
intelligence.
This all brings us to the climax of the story with the Time
Lord mind game between the Doctor and Morbius. Watching this
again with an open mind it was perfectly natural that both now
and when I was a child is that the Doctor always had the upper
hand on Morbius in the game. Morbius uses all of his power to
bring the Doctor's mind back to his William Hartnell
incarnation as the first Doctor, with no other incarnation
before him. Then the Doctor. The Doctor is always winning.
When Morbius forces him to think like Hartnell the Doctors
bounced back and forces Morbius through is previous
incarnations with Morbius screening for the Doctor go back to
his start, meaning Hartnell.
I'm not sure after all this time it's possible to have a
completely open mind. Usually once Doctor Who fans have made
up their minds about something it's often hard to shift them.
The idea that all of the other faces were those of the Doctor
is totally ridiculous
and doesn't fit in with the scene or how
it was filmed.
Why would the Producers say otherwise then? It wasn't ridiculous
to them! Especially as the filmed faces were some of the
production crew. Misguided? Possibly. But somebody must have
thought it was a good idea at the time. (Dicks didn't! We know
that now.)
In 1976 no child cared who the faces were, all that mattered was
that our hero - The Doctor - didn't die.
And Sarah-Jane wasn't blind!
All that faces mumbo jumbo cropped up in fandom later on, and
those arguments often take away from the quality that this story
delivered.
The True Doctor wrote:
On 28/02/2026 11:24, Blueshirt wrote:
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
YW.
What story are we doing next week?
Today's writers don't care about quality. AI can write better
than and of these clueless hacks.
Can and probably does!
I reckon most of the modern writers on the show just feed their
ideas into Sudowrite and then create their scripts from the
story they get given back.
No one will remember the degenerate modern crap that they
wrote or even want to rewatch it and discuss it 50 years later.
I can see it now...
RADW Doctor Who Watch Party: Date, 10th May 2069:
Three AI writing bots spend days on the vacuum that RADW became
once we all died, going back and forth on the merits of "The
Woman Who Fell to Earth"...
A fourth AI bot then joins the fray and generates... "REtcon the
Timliess Childd"
in multiple one-line responses... which causes
the other AI bots to have a meltdown and destroy the world.
I think the series needs to be rebooted from the TV again in
the orginal manner of the series and all the RTD era should
be completely erased from canon.
You always have go that one step too far, don't you?!
I do think that the show should be rebooted for a modern
audience... go back to an old man on Gallifrey that gets bored
with his stuffy peers and all their rules and regulations about non-interference, so decides to run away and explore the
Universe with a stolen time machine... a Time Lord that just
wants to have fun.
Forget retcon this, erase that... just start again. At the
beginning.
Which as we all know, is a very good place to start.
On 28/02/2026 10:24 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
I've just finished rewatching The Brain of Morbius for
the first time in what must be decades.
The time flew by in an instant and it brought back old
memories of when I first watched it as a child.
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
Fortunately, I watched this episode not that long ago when
the Season 13 "Doctor Who Collection Blu-Ray" arrived late last
year.
Unlike the modern garbage every single second counted, was not
boring, was not irrelevant soap opera shoehorned in as
padding, and was filled with plot, world building, scientific
exposition, with every word said having meaning, every scene
filmed adding to the suspension of disbelief and taking you
into a new world with a different history and culture from
ours, every action made and secret revealed was competency
necessary, and the acting was superb, especially Elizabeth
Sladen's totally convincing performance as a blind woman
stumbling into things and trying to feel her way around her
environment with her eyes wide open.
The first three episodes build tension steadily, but episode
four had to resolve the mind duel, the Sisterhood's arc, Solon's
schemes, as well as the rampaging monster... watching it now the
last episode feels a bit rushed.
It doesn't change the fact that the performances and writing
were top notch. "The Brain of Morbius" wasn't just Doctor Who at
its best, this was British TV at its best!
I'm pretty sure I've actually seen "The Brain of Morbius" but don't
really recall it.
If Aggy, you and me HAD been watching it way back when, AND knowing that
The Doctor HAD changed his appearance several time before .... AND we
saw those previous incarnations in the stream of faces, would it have
been reasonable for US to think ALL of the faces shown might have been previous incarnations of The Doctor??
On 28/02/2026 18:20, Blueshirt wrote:
I meant the TVM. We continue from where it left off. I want
to see the Doctor's human ancestry discussed along with proper
Time Lords history about how they all originated from Earth to
begin with.
I do think that the show should be rebooted for a modern
audience... go back to an old man on Gallifrey that gets
bored with his stuffy peers and all their rules and
regulations about non-interference, so decides to run away
and explore the Universe with a stolen time machine... a Time
Lord that just wants to have fun.
That has already been done. We should therefore continue from
where the TVM left off exploring the Doctors human ancestors
which is the reason he came to Earth to begin with and no some
other planet.
Forget retcon this, erase that... just start again. At the
beginning.
And then what? A Unearthly Child? The Daleks? What comes next?
Doctor Who is not Harry Potter and even with that I am not
going to waster 10 or 20 years watching a TV series when I
already know what happens and can read all of the books in
less than a year.
On 28/02/2026 18:37, Blueshirt wrote:
What also makes sense is that "The Doctor" is a clever
human, well educated (with a doctorate obviously), that
designs a time machine in his back garden, and then goes
off to have adventures with his granddaughter.
Some people seem to have a problem with this idea though...
<shrugs>
Well that's because it was plagiarised from Arnould Galopin.
If Aggy, you and me HAD been watching it way back when,
AND knowing that The Doctor HAD changed his appearance
several time before .... AND we saw those previous
incarnations in the stream of faces, would it have been
reasonable for US to think ALL of the faces shown might
have been previous incarnations of The Doctor??
So just 'seeing' the previous Doctor Who incarnations that
we were aware of would have been fine but showing other
"previous" incarnations is just wrong. ..... RIGHT!!
Verily, in article <10o11jl$3vaf$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
If Aggy, you and me HAD been watching it way back when, AND
knowing that The Doctor HAD changed his appearance several
time before .... AND we saw those previous incarnations in
the stream of faces, would it have been reasonable for US to
think ALL of the faces shown might have been previous
incarnations of The Doctor??
Yes, of course. If you just sit and watch the episode, it's
obvious that they're prior Doctors. We're more or less told
that. Morbius says, "How old are you, Doctor?" as he pushes
back through the incarnations we know, then adds, "How old are
you really?" as he pushes into the unknown faces.
I always figured this is why the Watcher popped up to deliver
more incarnations, when the one we call the fourth died. The
Doctor had already reincarnated twelve times, counting the
Morbius Doctors, so something else had to be done.
It is a bummer that the longstanding argument over the faces
has swamped everything else about the episode. It's good. I
recommend it.
On 01/03/2026 01:49, The Doctor wrote:
In article <MPG.440d20ab18a7274a989af8@news.eternal-september.org>,
The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <10nvhbb$3l0gf$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
On 28/02/2026 18:20, Blueshirt wrote:
[quoted text muted]
YW.
What story are we doing next week?
The Seeds of Doom is next in the series
The Seeds of Doom it is.
If you're going to remake An Unearthly Child it should be for the big
screen
Good idea. I could see a Doctor origin movie.
Who should make it? We don't want somebody like Mindy Kaling on it. We
need a solid SF director who will respect the original and also has a
good sense of fun.
Hmm. Roland Emmerich might be a good choice.
Link to watch party please and time.
There's no link. You watch the story by this Friday/Saturday, 6/7 March, >using whatever means you care to pick, and then discuss it here.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 28/02/2026 10:24 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
I've just finished rewatching The Brain of Morbius for
the first time in what must be decades.
The time flew by in an instant and it brought back old
memories of when I first watched it as a child.
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
Fortunately, I watched this episode not that long ago when
the Season 13 "Doctor Who Collection Blu-Ray" arrived late last
year.
Unlike the modern garbage every single second counted, was not
boring, was not irrelevant soap opera shoehorned in as
padding, and was filled with plot, world building, scientific
exposition, with every word said having meaning, every scene
filmed adding to the suspension of disbelief and taking you
into a new world with a different history and culture from
ours, every action made and secret revealed was competency
necessary, and the acting was superb, especially Elizabeth
Sladen's totally convincing performance as a blind woman
stumbling into things and trying to feel her way around her
environment with her eyes wide open.
The first three episodes build tension steadily, but episode
four had to resolve the mind duel, the Sisterhood's arc, Solon's
schemes, as well as the rampaging monster... watching it now the
last episode feels a bit rushed.
It doesn't change the fact that the performances and writing
were top notch. "The Brain of Morbius" wasn't just Doctor Who at
its best, this was British TV at its best!
I'm pretty sure I've actually seen "The Brain of Morbius" but don't
really recall it.
If Aggy, you and me HAD been watching it way back when, AND knowing that
The Doctor HAD changed his appearance several time before .... AND we
saw those previous incarnations in the stream of faces, would it have
been reasonable for US to think ALL of the faces shown might have been >previous incarnations of The Doctor??
There were plot twists and role reversals throughout with
Solon played by Philip Madock first getting the upper, then
the Doctor played by Tom Baker, then back again until the end.
Both the Doctor and Sarah Jane, and even Solon, provided
perfect examples to encourage people watching to get into
STEM, using scientific methodology in contrast to the
Sisterhood of the Flame demonstrating that witchcraft and
mysticism provided no learning or understanding as their final
reward.
No wonder this episode has always been regarded as a classic.
It's definitely one of the classics. It's head and shoulders -
quality wise - above modern Doctor Who.
Terrance Dicks ripped of Frankenstein in the best way
possible, with the aspects of the original monster being split
between two different characters, Condo and Morbius. Condo
along with his main role as Igor also took on the part in the
original plot where the Frankenstein monster encounters the
young girl, with that role belonging to Sarah Jane. Morbius
plays the monster on the rampage, and then gaining
intelligence.
This all brings us to the climax of the story with the Time
Lord mind game between the Doctor and Morbius. Watching this
again with an open mind it was perfectly natural that both now
and when I was a child is that the Doctor always had the upper
hand on Morbius in the game. Morbius uses all of his power to
bring the Doctor's mind back to his William Hartnell
incarnation as the first Doctor, with no other incarnation
before him. Then the Doctor. The Doctor is always winning.
When Morbius forces him to think like Hartnell the Doctors
bounced back and forces Morbius through is previous
incarnations with Morbius screening for the Doctor go back to
his start, meaning Hartnell.
I'm not sure after all this time it's possible to have a
completely open mind. Usually once Doctor Who fans have made
up their minds about something it's often hard to shift them.
Yeap!!
The idea that all of the other faces were those of the Doctor
is totally ridiculous
WHY, Aggy??
and doesn't fit in with the scene or how
it was filmed.
So just 'seeing' the previous Doctor Who incarnations that we were aware
of would have been fine but showing other "previous" incarnations is
just wrong. ..... RIGHT!!
Like there were no "James Bond 007" incarnations before Sean Connery!!
What was his name?? The Yank Film incarnation.
And looking at the "Portrayers listed on >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond there are a few 'Portrayers"
listed there that I must have missed!!
Oh. And don't forget "Jane Bond 007" Hmmm!! Was "Doctor Who" a
trend-setter in changing the sex of the main character??
Why would the Producers say otherwise then? It wasn't ridiculous
to them! Especially as the filmed faces were some of the
production crew. Misguided? Possibly. But somebody must have
thought it was a good idea at the time. (Dicks didn't! We know
that now.)
In 1976 no child cared who the faces were, all that mattered was
that our hero - The Doctor - didn't die.
Correct!!
And Sarah-Jane wasn't blind!
I'll believe you .... but, if she HAD gone blind, no problem, The Doctor >could just dropped her off somewhere and get a NEW Version.
--All that faces mumbo jumbo cropped up in fandom later on, and
those arguments often take away from the quality that this story
delivered.
Correct.
--
Daniel70
On 1/03/2026 5:20 am, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 28/02/2026 11:24, Blueshirt wrote:
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
YW.
What story are we doing next week?
Today's writers don't care about quality. AI can write better
than and of these clueless hacks.
Can and probably does!
I reckon most of the modern writers on the show just feed their
ideas into Sudowrite and then create their scripts from the
story they get given back.
No one will remember the degenerate modern crap that they
wrote or even want to rewatch it and discuss it 50 years later.
I can see it now...
RADW Doctor Who Watch Party: Date, 10th May 2069:
Why "10th May 2069"?? Surely it would occur on 23rd Nov, 2063 ... or >there-abouts.
--Three AI writing bots spend days on the vacuum that RADW became
once we all died, going back and forth on the merits of "The
Woman Who Fell to Earth"...
A fourth AI bot then joins the fray and generates... "REtcon the
Timliess Childd"
AH!! No! Are these AI, Binky AI??
in multiple one-line responses... which causes
the other AI bots to have a meltdown and destroy the world.
I think the series needs to be rebooted from the TV again in
the orginal manner of the series and all the RTD era should
be completely erased from canon.
You always have go that one step too far, don't you?!
Yeap. If the RTD era is completely erased from "Doctor Who" history,
then the Newbies out there will be bitching about the Doctor' 9, 10, 11,
12 and 13 that THEY remember have been done away with!!
I do think that the show should be rebooted for a modern
audience... go back to an old man on Gallifrey that gets bored
with his stuffy peers and all their rules and regulations about
non-interference, so decides to run away and explore the
Universe with a stolen time machine... a Time Lord that just
wants to have fun.
Run away in a STOLEN Time Machine .... with his TEENAGE Granddaughter!!
We can't have that, can we??
Forget retcon this, erase that... just start again. At theHmmmmm!!
beginning.
Which as we all know, is a very good place to start.
--
Daniel70
Verily, in article <10o11jl$3vaf$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 >@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
On 28/02/2026 10:24 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
I've just finished rewatching The Brain of Morbius for
the first time in what must be decades.
The time flew by in an instant and it brought back old
memories of when I first watched it as a child.
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
Fortunately, I watched this episode not that long ago when
the Season 13 "Doctor Who Collection Blu-Ray" arrived late last
year.
Unlike the modern garbage every single second counted, was not
boring, was not irrelevant soap opera shoehorned in as
padding, and was filled with plot, world building, scientific
exposition, with every word said having meaning, every scene
filmed adding to the suspension of disbelief and taking you
into a new world with a different history and culture from
ours, every action made and secret revealed was competency
necessary, and the acting was superb, especially Elizabeth
Sladen's totally convincing performance as a blind woman
stumbling into things and trying to feel her way around her
environment with her eyes wide open.
The first three episodes build tension steadily, but episode
four had to resolve the mind duel, the Sisterhood's arc, Solon's
schemes, as well as the rampaging monster... watching it now the
last episode feels a bit rushed.
It doesn't change the fact that the performances and writing
were top notch. "The Brain of Morbius" wasn't just Doctor Who at
its best, this was British TV at its best!
I'm pretty sure I've actually seen "The Brain of Morbius" but don't
really recall it.
If Aggy, you and me HAD been watching it way back when, AND knowing that
The Doctor HAD changed his appearance several time before .... AND we
saw those previous incarnations in the stream of faces, would it have
been reasonable for US to think ALL of the faces shown might have been
previous incarnations of The Doctor??
Yes, of course. If you just sit and watch the episode, it's obvious that >they're prior Doctors. We're more or less told that. Morbius says, "How
old are you, Doctor?" as he pushes back through the incarnations we
know, then adds, "How old are you *really*?" as he pushes into the
unknown faces.
I always figured this is why the Watcher popped up to deliver more >incarnations, when the one we call the fourth died. The Doctor had
already reincarnated twelve times, counting the Morbius Doctors, so >something else had to be done.
It is a bummer that the longstanding argument over the faces has swamped >everything else about the episode. It's good. I recommend it.
----
The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
The True Doctor wrote:
On 28/02/2026 18:20, Blueshirt wrote:
I meant the TVM. We continue from where it left off. I want
to see the Doctor's human ancestry discussed along with proper
Time Lords history about how they all originated from Earth to
begin with.
Modern Doctor Who will never be about what you, or I, want.
And you would never be happy with it anyway...
I do think that the show should be rebooted for a modern
audience... go back to an old man on Gallifrey that gets
bored with his stuffy peers and all their rules and
regulations about non-interference, so decides to run away
and explore the Universe with a stolen time machine... a Time
Lord that just wants to have fun.
That has already been done. We should therefore continue from
where the TVM left off exploring the Doctors human ancestors
which is the reason he came to Earth to begin with and no some
other planet.
F*k the TV movie, it was Americanised s*t. People who grew up
with the Colin Baker & Sylvester McCoy eras of the show might
have thought it was good, as it was a massive improvement on
what they were used to watching. But compared to the Pertwee/Tom
Baker eras, it wasn't.
Forget retcon this, erase that... just start again. At the
beginning.
And then what? A Unearthly Child? The Daleks? What comes next?
A fresh start using similar ideas.
Doctor Who is not Harry Potter and even with that I am not
going to waster 10 or 20 years watching a TV series when I
already know what happens and can read all of the books in
less than a year.
It wouldn't be aimed at you! This is the big problem with
"Doctor Who"... the old fans want the show to be made for them.
Doctor Who was never a show aimed at fifty and sixty year old
men. In 2026 or 2027 "Doctor Who" will never be about what
fandom wants.
A reboot would be to capture the imaginations of the younger
generation, like ours were captured all those years ago. Not
confuse that generation with sixty plus years of baggage. Which
is why the young streamers had no interest in the show in recent
years. There are more modern shows out there easier to get in to.
The True Doctor wrote:
On 28/02/2026 18:37, Blueshirt wrote:
What also makes sense is that "The Doctor" is a clever
human, well educated (with a doctorate obviously), that
designs a time machine in his back garden, and then goes
off to have adventures with his granddaughter.
Some people seem to have a problem with this idea though...
<shrugs>
Well that's because it was plagiarised from Arnould Galopin.
Works for me.
If it hasn't been done before it ain't worth doing...
Daniel70 wrote:
If Aggy, you and me HAD been watching it way back when,
AND knowing that The Doctor HAD changed his appearance
several time before .... AND we saw those previous
incarnations in the stream of faces, would it have been
reasonable for US to think ALL of the faces shown might
have been previous incarnations of The Doctor??
At ten years of age I'm not sure what I thought, but I knew
the white haired old man version of The Doctor was referred
to as the First Doctor, so I wouldn't think so.
So just 'seeing' the previous Doctor Who incarnations that
we were aware of would have been fine but showing other
"previous" incarnations is just wrong. ..... RIGHT!!
It was 1976. We saw Doctor Who episodes once, and only had the
Target novels, annuals and comic strips. The Doctors had gone,
First Doctor, Second Doctor, Third Doctor...so it wouldn't have
been a natural assumption back then. Especially to anyone who
had watched The Three Doctors in 1973.
The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o11jl$3vaf$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
If Aggy, you and me HAD been watching it way back when, AND
knowing that The Doctor HAD changed his appearance several
time before .... AND we saw those previous incarnations in
the stream of faces, would it have been reasonable for US to
think ALL of the faces shown might have been previous
incarnations of The Doctor??
Yes, of course. If you just sit and watch the episode, it's
obvious that they're prior Doctors. We're more or less told
that. Morbius says, "How old are you, Doctor?" as he pushes
back through the incarnations we know, then adds, "How old are
you really?" as he pushes into the unknown faces.
That's true, and clearly that was the way the producers intended
it... but I'm not sure watching it back then I would have
comprehended somebody being before the First Doctor. Tom Baker
had been constantly referred to as the Fourth Doctor after all.
Then "The Brain of Morbius" Target novel went and changed the
emphasis of the faces and that version stuck with a lot of
fandom.
I always figured this is why the Watcher popped up to deliver
more incarnations, when the one we call the fourth died. The
Doctor had already reincarnated twelve times, counting the
Morbius Doctors, so something else had to be done.
Chris Chibnall must have thought so too...
It is a bummer that the longstanding argument over the faces
has swamped everything else about the episode. It's good. I
recommend it.
Yes, it's typical fandom mumbo jumbo.
On 1/03/2026 5:20 am, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 28/02/2026 11:24, Blueshirt wrote:
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
YW.
What story are we doing next week?
Today's writers don't care about quality. AI can write better
than and of these clueless hacks.
Can and probably does!
I reckon most of the modern writers on the show just feed their
ideas into Sudowrite and then create their scripts from the
story they get given back.
No one will remember the degenerate modern crap that they
wrote or even want to rewatch it and discuss it 50 years later.
I can see it now...
RADW Doctor Who Watch Party: Date, 10th May 2069:
Why "10th May 2069"?? Surely it would occur on 23rd Nov, 2063 ... or there-abouts.
Three AI writing bots spend days on the vacuum that RADW became
once we all died, going back and forth on the merits of "The
Woman Who Fell to Earth"...
A fourth AI bot then joins the fray and generates... "REtcon the
Timliess Childd"
AH!! No! Are these AI, Binky AI??
in multiple one-line responses... which causes
the other AI bots to have a meltdown and destroy the world.
I think the series needs to be rebooted from the TV again in
the orginal manner of the series and all the RTD era should
be completely erased from canon.
You always have go that one step too far, don't you?!
Yeap. If the RTD era is completely erased from "Doctor Who" history,
then the Newbies out there will be bitching about the Doctor' 9, 10, 11,
12 and 13 that THEY remember have been done away with!!
I do think that the show should be rebooted for a modern
audience... go back to an old man on Gallifrey that gets bored
with his stuffy peers and all their rules and regulations about
non-interference, so decides to run away and explore the
Universe with a stolen time machine...-a-a a Time Lord that just
wants to have fun.
Run away in a STOLEN Time Machine .... with his TEENAGE Granddaughter!!
We can't have that, can we??
--Forget retcon this, erase that... just start again. At theHmmmmm!!
beginning.
Which as we all know, is a very good place to start.
On 28/02/2026 10:24 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
I've just finished rewatching The Brain of Morbius for
the first time in what must be decades.
The time flew by in an instant and it brought back old
memories of when I first watched it as a child.
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
Fortunately, I watched this episode not that long ago when
the Season 13 "Doctor Who Collection Blu-Ray" arrived late last
year.
Unlike the modern garbage every single second counted, was not
boring, was not irrelevant soap opera shoehorned in as
padding, and was filled with plot, world building, scientific
exposition, with every word said having meaning, every scene
filmed adding to the suspension of disbelief and taking you
into a new world with a different history and culture from
ours, every action made and secret revealed was competency
necessary, and the acting was superb, especially Elizabeth
Sladen's totally convincing performance as a blind woman
stumbling into things and trying to feel her way around her
environment with her eyes wide open.
The first three episodes build tension steadily, but episode
four had to resolve the mind duel, the Sisterhood's arc, Solon's
schemes, as well as the rampaging monster... watching it now the
last episode feels a bit rushed.
It doesn't change the fact that the performances and writing
were top notch. "The Brain of Morbius" wasn't just Doctor Who at
its best, this was British TV at its best!
I'm pretty sure I've actually seen "The Brain of Morbius" but don't
really recall it.
If Aggy, you and me HAD been watching it way back when, AND knowing that
The Doctor HAD changed his appearance several time before .... AND we
saw those previous incarnations in the stream of faces, would it have
been reasonable for US to think ALL of the faces shown might have been previous incarnations of The Doctor??
There were plot twists and role reversals throughout with
Solon played by Philip Madock first getting the upper, then
the Doctor played by Tom Baker, then back again until the end.
Both the Doctor and Sarah Jane, and even Solon, provided
perfect examples to encourage people watching to get into
STEM, using scientific methodology in contrast to the
Sisterhood of the Flame demonstrating that witchcraft and
mysticism provided no learning or understanding as their final
reward.
No wonder this episode has always been regarded as a classic.
It's definitely one of the classics. It's head and shoulders -
quality wise - above modern Doctor Who.
Terrance Dicks ripped of Frankenstein in the best way
possible, with the aspects of the original monster being split
between two different characters, Condo and Morbius. Condo
along with his main role as Igor also took on the part in the
original plot where the Frankenstein monster encounters the
young girl, with that role belonging to Sarah Jane. Morbius
plays the monster on the rampage, and then gaining
intelligence.
This all brings us to the climax of the story with the Time
Lord mind game between the Doctor and Morbius. Watching this
again with an open mind it was perfectly natural that both now
and when I was a child is that the Doctor always had the upper
hand on Morbius in the game. Morbius uses all of his power to
bring the Doctor's mind back to his William Hartnell
incarnation as the first Doctor, with no other incarnation
before him. Then the Doctor. The Doctor is always winning.
When Morbius forces him to think like Hartnell the Doctors
bounced back and forces Morbius through is previous
incarnations with Morbius screening for the Doctor go back to
his start, meaning Hartnell.
I'm not sure after all this time it's possible to have a
completely open mind. Usually once Doctor Who fans have made
up their minds about something it's often hard to shift them.
Yeap!!
The idea that all of the other faces were those of the Doctor
is totally ridiculous
WHY, Aggy??
and doesn't fit in with the scene or how
it was filmed.
So just 'seeing' the previous Doctor Who incarnations that we were aware
of would have been fine but showing other "previous" incarnations is
just wrong. ..... RIGHT!!
Like there were no "James Bond 007" incarnations before Sean Connery!!
What was his name?? The Yank Film incarnation.
And looking at the "Portrayers listed on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ James_Bond there are a few 'Portrayers" listed there that I must have missed!!
Oh. And don't forget "Jane Bond 007" Hmmm!! Was "Doctor Who" a trend-
setter in changing the sex of the main character??
--Why would the Producers say otherwise then? It wasn't ridiculous
to them! Especially as the filmed faces were some of the
production crew. Misguided? Possibly. But somebody must have
thought it was a good idea at the time. (Dicks didn't! We know
that now.)
In 1976 no child cared who the faces were, all that mattered was
that our hero - The Doctor - didn't die.
Correct!!
And Sarah-Jane wasn't blind!
I'll believe you .... but, if she HAD gone blind, no problem, The Doctor could just dropped her off somewhere and get a NEW Version.
All that faces mumbo jumbo cropped up in fandom later on, and
those arguments often take away from the quality that this story
delivered.
Correct.
The True Doctor wrote:
On 28/02/2026 18:20, Blueshirt wrote:
I meant the TVM. We continue from where it left off. I want
to see the Doctor's human ancestry discussed along with proper
Time Lords history about how they all originated from Earth to
begin with.
Modern Doctor Who will never be about what you, or I, want.
And you would never be happy with it anyway...
I do think that the show should be rebooted for a modern
audience... go back to an old man on Gallifrey that gets
bored with his stuffy peers and all their rules and
regulations about non-interference, so decides to run away
and explore the Universe with a stolen time machine... a Time
Lord that just wants to have fun.
That has already been done. We should therefore continue from
where the TVM left off exploring the Doctors human ancestors
which is the reason he came to Earth to begin with and no some
other planet.
Fuck the TV movie, it was Americanised shit. People who grew up
with the Colin Baker & Sylvester McCoy eras of the show might
have thought it was good, as it was a massive improvement on
what they were used to watching. But compared to the Pertwee/Tom
Baker eras, it wasn't.
Forget retcon this, erase that... just start again. At the
beginning.
And then what? A Unearthly Child? The Daleks? What comes next?
A fresh start using similar ideas.
Doctor Who is not Harry Potter and even with that I am not
going to waster 10 or 20 years watching a TV series when I
already know what happens and can read all of the books in
less than a year.
It wouldn't be aimed at you! This is the big problem with
"Doctor Who"... the old fans want the show to be made for them.>Doctor Who was never a show aimed at fifty and sixty year old
men. In 2026 or 2027 "Doctor Who" will never be about what
fandom wants.
A reboot would be to capture the imaginations of the younger
generation, like ours were captured all those years ago. Not
confuse that generation with sixty plus years of baggage. Which
is why the young streamers had no interest in the show in recent
years. There are more modern shows out there easier to get in to.
In article <xn0pmre5o9wfjuz001@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 28/02/2026 18:20, Blueshirt wrote:
I meant the TVM. We continue from where it left off. I want
to see the Doctor's human ancestry discussed along with proper
Time Lords history about how they all originated from Earth to
begin with.
Modern Doctor Who will never be about what you, or I, want.
And you would never be happy with it anyway...
And many in the croowd as well!
I do think that the show should be rebooted for a modern
audience... go back to an old man on Gallifrey that gets
bored with his stuffy peers and all their rules and
regulations about non-interference, so decides to run away
and explore the Universe with a stolen time machine... a Time
Lord that just wants to have fun.
That has already been done. We should therefore continue from
where the TVM left off exploring the Doctors human ancestors
which is the reason he came to Earth to begin with and no some
other planet.
F*k the TV movie, it was Americanised s*t. People who grew up
with the Colin Baker & Sylvester McCoy eras of the show might
have thought it was good, as it was a massive improvement on
what they were used to watching. But compared to the Pertwee/Tom
Baker eras, it wasn't.
So explain the decline.
Forget retcon this, erase that... just start again. At the
beginning.
And then what? A Unearthly Child? The Daleks? What comes next?
A fresh start using similar ideas.
Doctor Who is not Harry Potter and even with that I am not
going to waster 10 or 20 years watching a TV series when I
already know what happens and can read all of the books in
less than a year.
It wouldn't be aimed at you! This is the big problem with
"Doctor Who"... the old fans want the show to be made for them.
Doctor Who was never a show aimed at fifty and sixty year old
men. In 2026 or 2027 "Doctor Who" will never be about what
fandom wants.
A reboot would be to capture the imaginations of the younger
generation, like ours were captured all those years ago. Not
confuse that generation with sixty plus years of baggage. Which
is why the young streamers had no interest in the show in recent
years. There are more modern shows out there easier to get in to.
We need to capture the 1960s to 1980s spirit!
In article <xn0pmreky9x1n19004@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
If Aggy, you and me HAD been watching it way back when,
AND knowing that The Doctor HAD changed his appearance
several time before .... AND we saw those previous
incarnations in the stream of faces, would it have been
reasonable for US to think ALL of the faces shown might
have been previous incarnations of The Doctor??
At ten years of age I'm not sure what I thought, but I knew
the white haired old man version of The Doctor was referred
to as the First Doctor, so I wouldn't think so.
So just 'seeing' the previous Doctor Who incarnations that
we were aware of would have been fine but showing other
"previous" incarnations is just wrong. ..... RIGHT!!
It was 1976. We saw Doctor Who episodes once, and only had the
Target novels, annuals and comic strips. The Doctors had gone,
First Doctor, Second Doctor, Third Doctor...so it wouldn't have
been a natural assumption back then. Especially to anyone who
had watched The Three Doctors in 1973.
Heading for 60 this year BS?
Verily, in article <10o11jl$3vaf$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
On 28/02/2026 10:24 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
I've just finished rewatching The Brain of Morbius for
the first time in what must be decades.
The time flew by in an instant and it brought back old
memories of when I first watched it as a child.
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
Fortunately, I watched this episode not that long ago when
the Season 13 "Doctor Who Collection Blu-Ray" arrived late last
year.
Unlike the modern garbage every single second counted, was not
boring, was not irrelevant soap opera shoehorned in as
padding, and was filled with plot, world building, scientific
exposition, with every word said having meaning, every scene
filmed adding to the suspension of disbelief and taking you
into a new world with a different history and culture from
ours, every action made and secret revealed was competency
necessary, and the acting was superb, especially Elizabeth
Sladen's totally convincing performance as a blind woman
stumbling into things and trying to feel her way around her
environment with her eyes wide open.
The first three episodes build tension steadily, but episode
four had to resolve the mind duel, the Sisterhood's arc, Solon's
schemes, as well as the rampaging monster... watching it now the
last episode feels a bit rushed.
It doesn't change the fact that the performances and writing
were top notch. "The Brain of Morbius" wasn't just Doctor Who at
its best, this was British TV at its best!
I'm pretty sure I've actually seen "The Brain of Morbius" but don't
really recall it.
If Aggy, you and me HAD been watching it way back when, AND knowing that
The Doctor HAD changed his appearance several time before .... AND we
saw those previous incarnations in the stream of faces, would it have
been reasonable for US to think ALL of the faces shown might have been
previous incarnations of The Doctor??
Yes, of course. If you just sit and watch the episode, it's obvious that they're prior Doctors. We're more or less told that. Morbius says, "How
old are you, Doctor?" as he pushes back through the incarnations we
know, then adds, "How old are you *really*?" as he pushes into the
unknown faces.
I always figured this is why the Watcher popped up to deliver more incarnations, when the one we call the fourth died. The Doctor had
already reincarnated twelve times, counting the Morbius Doctors, so
something else had to be done.
It is a bummer that the longstanding argument over the faces has swamped everything else about the episode. It's good. I recommend it.
On 01/03/2026 10:08, Daniel70 wrote:
On 1/03/2026 5:20 am, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 28/02/2026 11:24, Blueshirt wrote:
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
YW.
What story are we doing next week?
Today's writers don't care about quality. AI can write better
than and of these clueless hacks.
Can and probably does!
I reckon most of the modern writers on the show just feed their
ideas into Sudowrite and then create their scripts from the
story they get given back.
No one will remember the degenerate modern crap that they
wrote or even want to rewatch it and discuss it 50 years later.
I can see it now...
RADW Doctor Who Watch Party: Date, 10th May 2069:
Why "10th May 2069"?? Surely it would occur on 23rd Nov, 2063 ... or
there-abouts.
Because it's exactly 50 years after The Woman Who Fell to Earth. Do you
have any basic understanding of what we are discussing? Do you know when
The Brain of Morbius first aired?
Three AI writing bots spend days on the vacuum that RADW became
once we all died, going back and forth on the merits of "The
Woman Who Fell to Earth"...
A fourth AI bot then joins the fray and generates... "REtcon the
Timliess Childd"
AH!! No! Are these AI, Binky(Word used by paedophiles to indicate
their joy of child sexual molestation) AI??
in multiple one-line responses... which causes
the other AI bots to have a meltdown and destroy the world.
I think the series needs to be rebooted from the TV again in
the orginal manner of the series and all the RTD era should
be completely erased from canon.
You always have go that one step too far, don't you?!
Yeap. If the RTD era is completely erased from "Doctor Who" history,
then the Newbies out there will be bitching about the Doctor' 9, 10, 11,
12 and 13 that THEY remember have been done away with!!
F*k them. Doctor Who fans don't care any more about any of these fake >Doctors.
I do think that the show should be rebooted for a modern
audience... go back to an old man on Gallifrey that gets bored
with his stuffy peers and all their rules and regulations about
non-interference, so decides to run away and explore the
Universe with a stolen time machine...-a-a a Time Lord that just
wants to have fun.
Run away in a STOLEN Time Machine .... with his TEENAGE Granddaughter!!
We can't have that, can we??
It was perfectly OK for a grandfather to take his granddaughter on a
sight seeing trip, until the sick, disgusting, degenerate, sex obsessed, >pervert RTD decided to make the Time Lords all sterile, meaning that
Time Lords can't have children let along grand children.
This piece of s*t doesn't have any intelligence surpassing that of >intelligence of a common gnat.
Forget retcon this, erase that... just start again. At theHmmmmm!!
beginning.
Which as we all know, is a very good place to start.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 01/03/2026 09:41, Daniel70 wrote:
On 28/02/2026 10:24 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
I've just finished rewatching The Brain of Morbius for
the first time in what must be decades.
The time flew by in an instant and it brought back old
memories of when I first watched it as a child.
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
Fortunately, I watched this episode not that long ago when
the Season 13 "Doctor Who Collection Blu-Ray" arrived late last
year.
Unlike the modern garbage every single second counted, was not
boring, was not irrelevant soap opera shoehorned in as
padding, and was filled with plot, world building, scientific
exposition, with every word said having meaning, every scene
filmed adding to the suspension of disbelief and taking you
into a new world with a different history and culture from
ours, every action made and secret revealed was competency
necessary, and the acting was superb, especially Elizabeth
Sladen's totally convincing performance as a blind woman
stumbling into things and trying to feel her way around her
environment with her eyes wide open.
The first three episodes build tension steadily, but episode
four had to resolve the mind duel, the Sisterhood's arc, Solon's
schemes, as well as the rampaging monster... watching it now the
last episode feels a bit rushed.
It doesn't change the fact that the performances and writing
were top notch. "The Brain of Morbius" wasn't just Doctor Who at
its best, this was British TV at its best!
I'm pretty sure I've actually seen "The Brain of Morbius" but don't
really recall it.
If Aggy, you and me HAD been watching it way back when, AND knowing that
The Doctor HAD changed his appearance several time before .... AND we
saw those previous incarnations in the stream of faces, would it have
been reasonable for US to think ALL of the faces shown might have been
previous incarnations of The Doctor??
No it wouldn't. Everyone knew that William Hartnell was the Doctor's
first incarnation so when Morbius, when he is losing the game and all of
his past faces pass by, says, Doctor go back to your beginning, he means
he wants to push him back to the face of William Hartnell again. And
when he can't push back any further he disconnects from the machine and
runs away.
There were plot twists and role reversals throughout with
Solon played by Philip Madock first getting the upper, then
the Doctor played by Tom Baker, then back again until the end.
Both the Doctor and Sarah Jane, and even Solon, provided
perfect examples to encourage people watching to get into
STEM, using scientific methodology in contrast to the
Sisterhood of the Flame demonstrating that witchcraft and
mysticism provided no learning or understanding as their final
reward.
No wonder this episode has always been regarded as a classic.
It's definitely one of the classics. It's head and shoulders -
quality wise - above modern Doctor Who.
Terrance Dicks ripped of Frankenstein in the best way
possible, with the aspects of the original monster being split
between two different characters, Condo and Morbius. Condo
along with his main role as Igor also took on the part in the
original plot where the Frankenstein monster encounters the
young girl, with that role belonging to Sarah Jane. Morbius
plays the monster on the rampage, and then gaining
intelligence.
This all brings us to the climax of the story with the Time
Lord mind game between the Doctor and Morbius. Watching this
again with an open mind it was perfectly natural that both now
and when I was a child is that the Doctor always had the upper
hand on Morbius in the game. Morbius uses all of his power to
bring the Doctor's mind back to his William Hartnell
incarnation as the first Doctor, with no other incarnation
before him. Then the Doctor. The Doctor is always winning.
When Morbius forces him to think like Hartnell the Doctors
bounced back and forces Morbius through is previous
incarnations with Morbius screening for the Doctor go back to
his start, meaning Hartnell.
I'm not sure after all this time it's possible to have a
completely open mind. Usually once Doctor Who fans have made
up their minds about something it's often hard to shift them.
Yeap!!
The idea that all of the other faces were those of the Doctor
is totally ridiculous
WHY, Aggy??
See above. Even to someone who didn't know about Hartnell it's clear
that all the faces from Tom Baker to William Hartnell were those of the >Doctor since they were framed and coloured differently from those of
Morbius which all looked like bad passport photos.
and doesn't fit in with the scene or how
it was filmed.
So just 'seeing' the previous Doctor Who incarnations that we were aware
of would have been fine but showing other "previous" incarnations is
just wrong. ..... RIGHT!!
There were no previous incarnations before Hartnell. We know that from
The Tenth Planet/Power of the Daleks and The Three Doctors and also from
The Deadly Assassin, Maudrin Undead where he only has 8 our of 13 >regenerations left, and The Five Doctors where Hunrdall says he was the >first and original.
Like there were no "James Bond 007" incarnations before Sean Connery!!
What was his name?? The Yank Film incarnation.
The yank that played Bond was playing him in a TVM which has nothing to
do with the EON movies.
And looking at the "Portrayers listed on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
James_Bond there are a few 'Portrayers" listed there that I must have
missed!!
It's clear to everyone here that you have little or no comprehension >abilities whatsoever, so you miss almost everything. James Bond didn't >regenerate from Connery to Lazeny then to Connery again and then to
Moore. They're all the same James Bond. Danial Craig on the other hand
is not part of that canon which ended with Brosnan.
Oh. And don't forget "Jane Bond 007" Hmmm!! Was "Doctor Who" a trend-
setter in changing the sex of the main character??
They did it with Captain Kirk in the last ever episode of Star Trek TOS
in 1969 or whenever it first aired.
Why would the Producers say otherwise then? It wasn't ridiculous
to them! Especially as the filmed faces were some of the
production crew. Misguided? Possibly. But somebody must have
thought it was a good idea at the time. (Dicks didn't! We know
that now.)
In 1976 no child cared who the faces were, all that mattered was
that our hero - The Doctor - didn't die.
Correct!!
And Sarah-Jane wasn't blind!
I'll believe you .... but, if she HAD gone blind, no problem, The Doctor
could just dropped her off somewhere and get a NEW Version.
All that faces mumbo jumbo cropped up in fandom later on, and
those arguments often take away from the quality that this story
delivered.
Correct.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 01/03/2026 11:25, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 28/02/2026 18:20, Blueshirt wrote:
I meant the TVM. We continue from where it left off. I want
to see the Doctor's human ancestry discussed along with proper
Time Lords history about how they all originated from Earth to
begin with.
Modern Doctor Who will never be about what you, or I, want.
Then it's not Doctor Who then.
And you would never be happy with it anyway...
If it were real Doctor Who I would be very happy with it.
I do think that the show should be rebooted for a modern
audience... go back to an old man on Gallifrey that gets
bored with his stuffy peers and all their rules and
regulations about non-interference, so decides to run away
and explore the Universe with a stolen time machine... a Time
Lord that just wants to have fun.
That has already been done. We should therefore continue from
where the TVM left off exploring the Doctors human ancestors
which is the reason he came to Earth to begin with and no some
other planet.
Fuck the TV movie, it was Americanised shit. People who grew up
with the Colin Baker & Sylvester McCoy eras of the show might
have thought it was good, as it was a massive improvement on
what they were used to watching. But compared to the Pertwee/Tom
Baker eras, it wasn't.
Well lets erase everything from Peter Davison onwards from canon then.
I'm sure AI is now capable of remaking the ending of Logopolis so that
Tom Baker recovers and gets up to continue the 4th Doctor's adventures
all generated by AI.
Forget retcon this, erase that... just start again. At the
beginning.
And then what? A Unearthly Child? The Daleks? What comes next?
A fresh start using similar ideas.
You might as well make Le Docteur Omega then.
Doctor Who is not Harry Potter and even with that I am not
going to waster 10 or 20 years watching a TV series when I
already know what happens and can read all of the books in
less than a year.
It wouldn't be aimed at you! This is the big problem with
Why not? The only people that would be interested in such a thing would
be me and you and other adults and children that think the same way we
do. It's not for retarded 12 year old girls. It's for much more
intelligent boys from the age of about 4 onwards, and those still exist
and think the same way boys have always thought since Homo Sapiens first >evolved. A boy from 200,000 years ago would think exactly like us and be >capable of passing their school exams and even obtaining a PhD.
"Doctor Who"... the old fans want the show to be made for them.>Doctor Who was never a show aimed at fifty and sixty year old
men. In 2026 or 2027 "Doctor Who" will never be about what
fandom wants.
A reboot would be to capture the imaginations of the younger
generation, like ours were captured all those years ago. Not
You don't need a reboot to do that. What you need is writing of the same >quality as the original series before the sex obsessed pervert JN-T was
made producer and only employed cast and crew because he fancied them
rather than based on talent and ability.
Harry Potter still appeals to children today the same way it appealed to >them almost 30 years ago. The same applies to Roald Dahl, H G Wells,
Charles Dickens, Alexandre Dumas, Jane Austen, Shakespeare, Homer, and
all the great writers. Only those who lack intelligence, comprehensions,
and understand would not appreciate their work.
confuse that generation with sixty plus years of baggage. Which
is why the young streamers had no interest in the show in recent
years. There are more modern shows out there easier to get in to.
They've got no interest in the show because the writing is absolute >degenerate crap all about sexually indoctrinating children to submit to >disgusting perverts. Why would any decent parent let their children
watch that? If Doctor Who was made the same way it was 50 years ago with >good writing, casting, and directing, but with modern production
standards so that it is indistinguishable from a Hollywood movie in
terms of set building, locations used, and special effects, then people >would watch it. This is what the disgusting, degenerate, sex obsessed >perverts running and working for the BBC don't understand. It the sane >reason people don't watch movies made in black and white any more, not
even the great classics, not because they're not modern, but because
they were made in black and white and black and white sucks bacause it's
not colour.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 01/03/2026 13:24, The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0pmre5o9wfjuz001@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 28/02/2026 18:20, Blueshirt wrote:
I meant the TVM. We continue from where it left off. I want
to see the Doctor's human ancestry discussed along with proper
Time Lords history about how they all originated from Earth to
begin with.
Modern Doctor Who will never be about what you, or I, want.
And you would never be happy with it anyway...
And many in the croowd as well!
I do think that the show should be rebooted for a modern
audience... go back to an old man on Gallifrey that gets
bored with his stuffy peers and all their rules and
regulations about non-interference, so decides to run away
and explore the Universe with a stolen time machine... a Time
Lord that just wants to have fun.
That has already been done. We should therefore continue from
where the TVM left off exploring the Doctors human ancestors
which is the reason he came to Earth to begin with and no some
other planet.
F*k the TV movie, it was Americanised s*t. People who grew up
with the Colin Baker & Sylvester McCoy eras of the show might
have thought it was good, as it was a massive improvement on
what they were used to watching. But compared to the Pertwee/Tom
Baker eras, it wasn't.
So explain the decline.
Very bad writing. Very bad casting. Degenerate woke political lecturing.
And the obsession with sexually grooming and indoctrinating children
instead of encouraging them to learn about science, technology,
engineering, mathematics, and medicine, and be intelligent.
Forget retcon this, erase that... just start again. At the
beginning.
And then what? A Unearthly Child? The Daleks? What comes next?
A fresh start using similar ideas.
Doctor Who is not Harry Potter and even with that I am not
going to waster 10 or 20 years watching a TV series when I
already know what happens and can read all of the books in
less than a year.
It wouldn't be aimed at you! This is the big problem with
"Doctor Who"... the old fans want the show to be made for them.
Doctor Who was never a show aimed at fifty and sixty year old
men. In 2026 or 2027 "Doctor Who" will never be about what
fandom wants.
A reboot would be to capture the imaginations of the younger
generation, like ours were captured all those years ago. Not
confuse that generation with sixty plus years of baggage. Which
is why the young streamers had no interest in the show in recent
years. There are more modern shows out there easier to get in to.
We need to capture the 1960s to 1980s spirit!
The spirit of good writing, good casting, good directing, and good ideas >that get people thinking, not trying to sexually groom and indoctrinate
them like today.
Why would anyone think that making the Doctor gay would appeal to anyone
but homosexual men who only form 0.75 of the population? The f*king >disgusting perverts running the show made it just for themselves, not
for the people as a whole.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 01/03/2026 13:25, The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0pmreky9x1n19004@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
If Aggy, you and me HAD been watching it way back when,
AND knowing that The Doctor HAD changed his appearance
several time before .... AND we saw those previous
incarnations in the stream of faces, would it have been
reasonable for US to think ALL of the faces shown might
have been previous incarnations of The Doctor??
At ten years of age I'm not sure what I thought, but I knew
the white haired old man version of The Doctor was referred
to as the First Doctor, so I wouldn't think so.
So just 'seeing' the previous Doctor Who incarnations that
we were aware of would have been fine but showing other
"previous" incarnations is just wrong. ..... RIGHT!!
It was 1976. We saw Doctor Who episodes once, and only had the
Target novels, annuals and comic strips. The Doctors had gone,
First Doctor, Second Doctor, Third Doctor...so it wouldn't have
been a natural assumption back then. Especially to anyone who
had watched The Three Doctors in 1973.
Heading for 60 this year BS?
60 is the new 30.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 01/03/2026 10:15, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o11jl$3vaf$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
On 28/02/2026 10:24 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
I've just finished rewatching The Brain of Morbius for
the first time in what must be decades.
The time flew by in an instant and it brought back old
memories of when I first watched it as a child.
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
Fortunately, I watched this episode not that long ago when
the Season 13 "Doctor Who Collection Blu-Ray" arrived late last
year.
Unlike the modern garbage every single second counted, was not
boring, was not irrelevant soap opera shoehorned in as
padding, and was filled with plot, world building, scientific
exposition, with every word said having meaning, every scene
filmed adding to the suspension of disbelief and taking you
into a new world with a different history and culture from
ours, every action made and secret revealed was competency
necessary, and the acting was superb, especially Elizabeth
Sladen's totally convincing performance as a blind woman
stumbling into things and trying to feel her way around her
environment with her eyes wide open.
The first three episodes build tension steadily, but episode
four had to resolve the mind duel, the Sisterhood's arc, Solon's
schemes, as well as the rampaging monster... watching it now the
last episode feels a bit rushed.
It doesn't change the fact that the performances and writing
were top notch. "The Brain of Morbius" wasn't just Doctor Who at
its best, this was British TV at its best!
I'm pretty sure I've actually seen "The Brain of Morbius" but don't
really recall it.
If Aggy, you and me HAD been watching it way back when, AND knowing that >>> The Doctor HAD changed his appearance several time before .... AND we
saw those previous incarnations in the stream of faces, would it have
been reasonable for US to think ALL of the faces shown might have been
previous incarnations of The Doctor??
Yes, of course. If you just sit and watch the episode, it's obvious that
they're prior Doctors. We're more or less told that. Morbius says, "How
old are you, Doctor?" as he pushes back through the incarnations we
No, he's saying that the Doctor is not very old compared to himself, and >shows the Doctor his own faces to prove it. We've already learned that
the Doctor is only 700 years old from one of the previous episodes and
that Morbius had been disintegrated a few years before the Doctor was
born.
know, then adds, "How old are you *really*?" as he pushes into the
unknown faces.
He's pushing back against the Doctor who is winning the arm wrestling >contest, by showing his own faces which are more numerous than those of
the Doctor. This is like an arm wrestler, since arm wrestling is how the >Doctor describes it, contorting their face when wanting to get the upper >hand. Those are clearly the faces of Morbius and anyone not even knowing >that Hartnell's face is that of the first Doctor can figure that out
from the visuals and visuals. Hatnell's face pops up and Morbius knows
it's the Doctors first incarnation and he has no more faces left. "How
old are you really, older than Hartnell? No! I'm older than you are. Look."
I always figured this is why the Watcher popped up to deliver more
incarnations, when the one we call the fourth died. The Doctor had
He does nothing of the kind. It's already stated in The Keeper of Traken
the previous story that a Time Lord only has 12 regenerations and the
Doctor hadn't used up all of those year, even with the faces of Morbius >being counted. Why would the Master want the Doctor's body if the Doctor >didn't have any regenerations left?
already reincarnated twelve times, counting the Morbius Doctors, so
No he hadn't even counting the faces of Morbius.
something else had to be done.
The Watcher was created by the Doctor as an inter-regenerational state
in order for him to pilot the Tardis to keep Adric, Nyssa, and Teegan
safe inside the TARDIS and bring them back to Earth. When they return
the Watcher leaves the TARDIS and merges back with the Doctor, who then >begins to regenerate fully into Peter Davison.
It is a bummer that the longstanding argument over the faces has swamped
everything else about the episode. It's good. I recommend it.
Those faces were never intended to be those of the Doctor. Morbius was >invited to play the game by the Doctor because the Doctor knew he would >defeat him. Morbius was loosing from the start and when the Doctor
showed his faces down to Hartnell, Morbius started pushing back with his
own faces and then started screening, go back to your beginning, meaning >Hartnell, like a dog owner telling their dog to go back the your kennel, >when he could no longer hold back (the dog from attacking him) and then
he cheated by disconnecting from the machine which blew it up and passed
the shock into the Doctor who fell down while Morbius ran away.
This debate was laid to rest ever since Mawdrin Undead, and totally >contradicts the 11th Doctor's entire character arc and the second cycle
of regenerations given to him so he could regenerate into Capaldi, and
the fact that Clara saw all of the Doctors previous 12 incarnations
(Tennant counting twice) including John Hurt, as confirmed by the Doctor >Himself.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
Well lets erase everything from Peter Davison onwards from canon then.
In article <10o1vog$f36s$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
On 01/03/2026 10:08, Daniel70 wrote:
On 1/03/2026 5:20 am, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
Today's writers don't care about quality. AI can write better
than and of these clueless hacks.
I think the series needs to be rebooted from the TV again in
the orginal manner of the series and all the RTD era should
be completely erased from canon.
You always have go that one step too far, don't you?!
Yeap. If the RTD era is completely erased from "Doctor Who" history,
then the Newbies out there will be bitching about the Doctor' 9, 10, 11, >>> 12 and 13 that THEY remember have been done away with!!
F*k them. Doctor Who fans don't care any more about any of these fake
Doctors.
You got that right.
Who has done more damage? RTD or JN-T?
A boy from 200,000 years ago would think exactly like us and be
capable of passing their school exams and even obtaining a PhD.
No, he's saying that the Doctor is not very old compared to himself,
Verily, in article <10o2232$fvqm$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
Well lets erase everything from Peter Davison onwards from canon then.
We must never erase Peter Davison. He was a great Doctor.
Besides, do you really think any of the others could pull off a
decorative vegetable?
Dang it. As a prehistory buff, I cannot let this pass.
Verily, in article <10o2232$fvqm$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
A boy from 200,000 years ago would think exactly like us and be
capable of passing their school exams and even obtaining a PhD.
You went much too far back. If you'd said 30,000 years I would have
agreed, but 200,000 is *well* before the Creative Explosion. Our bodies
were the same, but our brains weren't quite done.
In article <10o22f1$g54m$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
On 01/03/2026 13:24, The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0pmre5o9wfjuz001@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 28/02/2026 18:20, Blueshirt wrote:
I meant the TVM. We continue from where it left off. I want
to see the Doctor's human ancestry discussed along with proper
Time Lords history about how they all originated from Earth to
begin with.
Modern Doctor Who will never be about what you, or I, want.
And you would never be happy with it anyway...
And many in the croowd as well!
I do think that the show should be rebooted for a modern
audience... go back to an old man on Gallifrey that gets
bored with his stuffy peers and all their rules and
regulations about non-interference, so decides to run away
and explore the Universe with a stolen time machine... a Time
Lord that just wants to have fun.
That has already been done. We should therefore continue from
where the TVM left off exploring the Doctors human ancestors
which is the reason he came to Earth to begin with and no some
other planet.
F*k the TV movie, it was Americanised s*t. People who grew up
with the Colin Baker & Sylvester McCoy eras of the show might
have thought it was good, as it was a massive improvement on
what they were used to watching. But compared to the Pertwee/Tom
Baker eras, it wasn't.
So explain the decline.
Very bad writing. Very bad casting. Degenerate woke political lecturing.
And the obsession with sexually grooming and indoctrinating children
instead of encouraging them to learn about science, technology,
engineering, mathematics, and medicine, and be intelligent.
Forget retcon this, erase that... just start again. At the
beginning.
And then what? A Unearthly Child? The Daleks? What comes next?
A fresh start using similar ideas.
Doctor Who is not Harry Potter and even with that I am not
going to waster 10 or 20 years watching a TV series when I
already know what happens and can read all of the books in
less than a year.
It wouldn't be aimed at you! This is the big problem with
"Doctor Who"... the old fans want the show to be made for them.
Doctor Who was never a show aimed at fifty and sixty year old
men. In 2026 or 2027 "Doctor Who" will never be about what
fandom wants.
A reboot would be to capture the imaginations of the younger
generation, like ours were captured all those years ago. Not
confuse that generation with sixty plus years of baggage. Which
is why the young streamers had no interest in the show in recent
years. There are more modern shows out there easier to get in to.
We need to capture the 1960s to 1980s spirit!
The spirit of good writing, good casting, good directing, and good ideas
that get people thinking, not trying to sexually groom and indoctrinate
them like today.
Why would anyone think that making the Doctor gay would appeal to anyone
but homosexual men who only form 0.75 of the population? The f*king
disgusting perverts running the show made it just for themselves, not
for the people as a whole.
And Chbnall is bollocks!
That's when Nathan-Turner should have been sacked. Putting question
marks on the lapels of the Doctor's shirt was already one step too far.
Changing the title sequence as well as the Doctor's costume and scarf
drove viewers away.
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo Sapiens
who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and didn't migrate into
Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not have undergone these
changes to their brain configuration independently.
Verily, in article <10o2crc$jvu7$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo Sapiens
who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and didn't migrate into
Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not have undergone these
changes to their brain configuration independently.
Who said they did? DNA spreads. Don't forget that there are traces of Neanderthal DNA in native African populations.
Verily, in article <10o2bqf$jkq4$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
That's when Nathan-Turner should have been sacked. Putting question
marks on the lapels of the Doctor's shirt was already one step too far.
I don't like the question marks either. The Doctor doesn't try to act mysterious.
Changing the title sequence as well as the Doctor's costume and scarf
drove viewers away.
Why would Five have kept Four's scarf? None of the previous three wore a
long, multicolored scarf.
I'm fine with the tradition of changing the opening sequence and the
Doctor's costume upon each reincarnation.
Verily, in article <10o2232$fvqm$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
Well lets erase everything from Peter Davison onwards from canon then.
We must never erase Peter Davison. He was a great Doctor.
Besides, do you really think any of the others could pull off a
decorative vegetable?
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Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
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On 01/03/2026 19:42, The Doctor wrote:
In article <10o1vog$f36s$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
On 01/03/2026 10:08, Daniel70 wrote:
On 1/03/2026 5:20 am, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
Today's writers don't care about quality. AI can write better
than and of these clueless hacks.
I think the series needs to be rebooted from the TV again in
the orginal manner of the series and all the RTD era should
be completely erased from canon.
You always have go that one step too far, don't you?!
Yeap. If the RTD era is completely erased from "Doctor Who" history,
then the Newbies out there will be bitching about the Doctor' 9, 10, 11, >>>> 12 and 13 that THEY remember have been done away with!!
F*k them. Doctor Who fans don't care any more about any of these fake
Doctors.
You got that right.
Who has done more damage? RTD or JN-T?
Both Davies and Chibnall, and to a lesser extent Moffat when he turned
the Master into a woman.
Doctor Who ends with the TVM. Davies turning the Doctor gay killed the
show off completely with everyone after the Timeless Child monster
destroyed the entire franchise.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
Dang it. As a prehistory buff, I cannot let this pass.
Verily, in article <10o2232$fvqm$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
A boy from 200,000 years ago would think exactly like us and be
capable of passing their school exams and even obtaining a PhD.
You went much too far back. If you'd said 30,000 years I would have
agreed, but 200,000 is *well* before the Creative Explosion. Our bodies
were the same, but our brains weren't quite done.
----
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United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
Verily, in article <10o23v2$gms1$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
No, he's saying that the Doctor is not very old compared to himself,
We disagree. That's okay; the fandom has room for both of us.
----
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Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
On 01/03/2026 21:27, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2232$fvqm$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
Well lets erase everything from Peter Davison onwards from canon then.
We must never erase Peter Davison. He was a great Doctor.
Except for his costume.
Besides, do you really think any of the others could pull off a
decorative vegetable?
That's when Nathan-Turner should have been sacked. Putting question
marks on the lapels of the Doctor's shirt was already one step too far.
Changing the title sequence as well as the Doctor's costume and scarf
drove viewers away.
Nathan-Turner didn't have a clue what he was doing and that's why Tom
Baker resigned.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 01/03/2026 21:32, The True Melissa wrote:
Dang it. As a prehistory buff, I cannot let this pass.
Verily, in article <10o2232$fvqm$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
A boy from 200,000 years ago would think exactly like us and be
capable of passing their school exams and even obtaining a PhD.
You went much too far back. If you'd said 30,000 years I would have
No I shouldn't because that would be racist.
agreed, but 200,000 is *well* before the Creative Explosion. Our bodies
were the same, but our brains weren't quite done.
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo Sapiens
who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and didn't migrate into
Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not have undergone these
changes to their brain configuration independently. It also implies that
no one but a single linage that evolved 30,000 had the ability to read
and write and even comprehend spoken language which as we all know is
pure bulls*t. These abilities have to have been present in all Homo
Sapiens 200,000 years ago, or else the timeline for their migration is
wrong and it only occurred in the past 10,000 years, which would have >allowed for the interbreeding and spread of these changes to have
occurred in Africa when the populations were in close proximity.a
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 01/03/2026 19:45, The Doctor wrote:
In article <10o22f1$g54m$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
On 01/03/2026 13:24, The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0pmre5o9wfjuz001@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 28/02/2026 18:20, Blueshirt wrote:
I meant the TVM. We continue from where it left off. I want
to see the Doctor's human ancestry discussed along with proper
Time Lords history about how they all originated from Earth to
begin with.
Modern Doctor Who will never be about what you, or I, want.
And you would never be happy with it anyway...
And many in the croowd as well!
I do think that the show should be rebooted for a modern
audience... go back to an old man on Gallifrey that gets
bored with his stuffy peers and all their rules and
regulations about non-interference, so decides to run away
and explore the Universe with a stolen time machine... a Time
Lord that just wants to have fun.
That has already been done. We should therefore continue from
where the TVM left off exploring the Doctors human ancestors
which is the reason he came to Earth to begin with and no some
other planet.
F*k the TV movie, it was Americanised s*t. People who grew up
with the Colin Baker & Sylvester McCoy eras of the show might
have thought it was good, as it was a massive improvement on
what they were used to watching. But compared to the Pertwee/Tom
Baker eras, it wasn't.
So explain the decline.
Very bad writing. Very bad casting. Degenerate woke political lecturing. >>> And the obsession with sexually grooming and indoctrinating children
instead of encouraging them to learn about science, technology,
engineering, mathematics, and medicine, and be intelligent.
Forget retcon this, erase that... just start again. At the
beginning.
And then what? A Unearthly Child? The Daleks? What comes next?
A fresh start using similar ideas.
Doctor Who is not Harry Potter and even with that I am not
going to waster 10 or 20 years watching a TV series when I
already know what happens and can read all of the books in
less than a year.
It wouldn't be aimed at you! This is the big problem with
"Doctor Who"... the old fans want the show to be made for them.
Doctor Who was never a show aimed at fifty and sixty year old
men. In 2026 or 2027 "Doctor Who" will never be about what
fandom wants.
A reboot would be to capture the imaginations of the younger
generation, like ours were captured all those years ago. Not
confuse that generation with sixty plus years of baggage. Which
is why the young streamers had no interest in the show in recent
years. There are more modern shows out there easier to get in to.
We need to capture the 1960s to 1980s spirit!
The spirit of good writing, good casting, good directing, and good ideas >>> that get people thinking, not trying to sexually groom and indoctrinate
them like today.
Why would anyone think that making the Doctor gay would appeal to anyone >>> but homosexual men who only form 0.75 of the population? The f*king
0.75%
disgusting perverts running the show made it just for themselves, not
for the people as a whole.
And Chbnall is bollocks!
Chibnall is a degenerate sex obsessed pervert.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
Verily, in article <10o2bqf$jkq4$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
That's when Nathan-Turner should have been sacked. Putting question
marks on the lapels of the Doctor's shirt was already one step too far.
I don't like the question marks either. The Doctor doesn't try to act >mysterious.
Changing the title sequence as well as the Doctor's costume and scarf
drove viewers away.
Why would Five have kept Four's scarf? None of the previous three wore a >long, multicolored scarf.
I'm fine with the tradition of changing the opening sequence and the >Doctor's costume upon each reincarnation.
----
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United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
Verily, in article <10o2crc$jvu7$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo Sapiens
who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and didn't migrate into
Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not have undergone these
changes to their brain configuration independently.
Who said they did? DNA spreads. Don't forget that there are traces of >Neanderthal DNA in native African populations.
----
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United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
On 01/03/2026 23:10, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2crc$jvu7$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo Sapiens
who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and didn't migrate into
Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not have undergone these
changes to their brain configuration independently.
Who said they did? DNA spreads. Don't forget that there are traces of
Neanderthal DNA in native African populations.
Actually there isn't. That's what differentiates them from Europeans and >Asians. Up to 5% of European and Asian DNA is from Neanderthals or >Denisovans. The Creative Explosion is racist ideology. We know full well >that there are no African or Australian aboriginal populations that
can't read and write when taught, or that they any worse at it than >Europeans and Asians, so they must have been capable of doing so at
least 200,000 years ago before the migrations out of Africa began.
Otherwise the timeline of those migrations has to be wrong.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 01/03/2026 22:21, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2bqf$jkq4$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
That's when Nathan-Turner should have been sacked. Putting question
marks on the lapels of the Doctor's shirt was already one step too far.
I don't like the question marks either. The Doctor doesn't try to act
mysterious.
Changing the title sequence as well as the Doctor's costume and scarf
drove viewers away.
Why would Five have kept Four's scarf? None of the previous three wore a
I was talking about that all burgundy thing that Four was given for
Season 18, not Five not continuing to wear it the following season. The >ratings had already dropped to 4 million for Full Circle when people
didn't like the change of look.
long, multicolored scarf.
I'm fine with the tradition of changing the opening sequence and the
Doctor's costume upon each reincarnation.
It didn't happen at the regeneration though. It happened at the start of >Season 18. There wasn't even a change of companion.
----
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"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
Dang it. As a prehistory buff, I cannot let this pass.
Verily, in article <10o2232$fvqm$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
A boy from 200,000 years ago would think exactly like us and be
capable of passing their school exams and even obtaining a PhD.
You went much too far back. If you'd said 30,000 years I would have
agreed, but 200,000 is *well* before the Creative Explosion. Our bodies
were the same, but our brains weren't quite done.
On 01/03/2026 21:32, The True Melissa wrote:
Dang it. As a prehistory buff, I cannot let this pass.
Verily, in article <10o2232$fvqm$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
A boy from 200,000 years ago would think exactly like us and be
capable of passing their school exams and even obtaining a PhD.
You went much too far back. If you'd said 30,000 years I would
have
No I shouldn't because that would be racist.
agreed, but 200,000 is *well* before the Creative Explosion. Our
bodies were the same, but our brains weren't quite done.
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo
Sapiens who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and didn't
migrate into Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not have
undergone these changes to their brain configuration independently.
It also implies that no one but a single linage that evolved 30,000
had the ability to read and write and even comprehend spoken language
which as we all know is pure bullshit.
These abilities have to have been present in all Homo Sapiens 200,000
years ago,
or else the timeline for their migration is wrong and it only
occurred in the past 10,000 years,
which would have allowed for the interbreeding and spread of these
changes to have occurred in Africa
when the populations were in close proximity.--
On 01/03/2026 23:10, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2crc$jvu7$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo Sapiens
who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and didn't migrate into
Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not have undergone these
changes to their brain configuration independently.
Who said they did? DNA spreads. Don't forget that there are traces of
Neanderthal DNA in native African populations.
Actually there isn't. That's what differentiates them from Europeans and Asians. Up to 5% of European and Asian DNA is from Neanderthals or Denisovans.
The Creative Explosion is racist ideology. We know full well
that there are no African or Australian aboriginal populations that
can't read and write when taught,
or that they any worse at it than
Europeans and Asians, so they must have been capable of doing so at
least 200,000 years ago before the migrations out of Africa began.
Otherwise the timeline of those migrations has to be wrong.
On 01/03/2026 10:08, Daniel70 wrote:
On 1/03/2026 5:20 am, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 28/02/2026 11:24, Blueshirt wrote:
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
YW.
What story are we doing next week?
Today's writers don't care about quality. AI can write better
than and of these clueless hacks.
Can and probably does!
I reckon most of the modern writers on the show just feed their
ideas into Sudowrite and then create their scripts from the
story they get given back.
No one will remember the degenerate modern crap that they
wrote or even want to rewatch it and discuss it 50 years later.
I can see it now...
RADW Doctor Who Watch Party: Date, 10th May 2069:
Why "10th May 2069"?? Surely it would occur on 23rd Nov, 2063 ... or
there-abouts.
Because it's exactly 50 years after The Woman Who Fell to Earth. Do you
have any basic understanding of what we are discussing? Do you know when
The Brain of Morbius first aired?
Three AI writing bots spend days on the vacuum that RADW became
once we all died, going back and forth on the merits of "The
Woman Who Fell to Earth"...
A fourth AI bot then joins the fray and generates... "REtcon the
Timliess Childd"
AH!! No! Are these AI, Binky AI??
in multiple one-line responses... which causes
the other AI bots to have a meltdown and destroy the world.
I think the series needs to be rebooted from the TV again in
the orginal manner of the series and all the RTD era should
be completely erased from canon.
You always have go that one step too far, don't you?!
Yeap. If the RTD era is completely erased from "Doctor Who" history,
then the Newbies out there will be bitching about the Doctor' 9, 10,
11, 12 and 13 that THEY remember have been done away with!!
Fuck them. Doctor Who fans don't care any more about any of these fake Doctors.
I do think that the show should be rebooted for a modern
audience... go back to an old man on Gallifrey that gets bored
with his stuffy peers and all their rules and regulations about
non-interference, so decides to run away and explore the
Universe with a stolen time machine...-a-a a Time Lord that just
wants to have fun.
Run away in a STOLEN Time Machine .... with his TEENAGE
Granddaughter!! We can't have that, can we??
It was perfectly OK for a grandfather to take his granddaughter on a
sight seeing trip, until the sick, disgusting, degenerate, sex obsessed, pervert RTD decided to make the Time Lords all sterile, meaning that
Time Lords can't have children let along grand children.
The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o11jl$3vaf$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
If Aggy, you and me HAD been watching it way back when, AND
knowing that The Doctor HAD changed his appearance several time
before .... AND we saw those previous incarnations in the stream
of faces, would it have been reasonable for US to think ALL of
the faces shown might have been previous incarnations of The
Doctor??
Yes, of course. If you just sit and watch the episode, it's
obvious that they're prior Doctors. We're more or less told that.
Morbius says, "How old are you, Doctor?" as he pushes back through
the incarnations we know, then adds, "How old are you really?" as
he pushes into the unknown faces.
That's true, and clearly that was the way the producers intended
it... but I'm not sure watching it back then I would have
comprehended somebody being before the First Doctor.
Tom Baker had been constantly referred to as the Fourth Doctor after
all.
Then "The Brain of Morbius" Target novel went and changed the
emphasis of the faces and that version stuck with a lot of fandom.
I always figured this is why the Watcher popped up to deliver more
incarnations,
when the one we call the fourth died. The Doctor had already
reincarnated twelve times, counting the Morbius Doctors, so
something else had to be done.
Chris Chibnall must have thought so too...--
It is a bummer that the longstanding argument over the faces has
swamped everything else about the episode. It's good. I recommend
it.
Yes, it's typical fandom mumbo jumbo.
On 01/03/2026 23:10, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2crc$jvu7$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo Sapiens
who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and didn't migrate into
Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not have undergone these
changes to their brain configuration independently.
Who said they did? DNA spreads. Don't forget that there are traces of Neanderthal DNA in native African populations.
Actually there isn't. That's what differentiates them from Europeans and Asians. Up to 5% of European and Asian DNA is from Neanderthals or Denisovans.
The
ratings had already dropped to 4 million for Full Circle when people
didn't like the change of look.
Verily, in article <10o2jvv$mfgd$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
The
ratings had already dropped to 4 million for Full Circle when people
didn't like the change of look.
Would you really stop watching because of the Doctor's costume? I don't
think I would, especially if it were just an accessory.
Verily, in article <10o2232$fvqm$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
Well lets erase everything from Peter Davison onwards from
canon then.
We must never erase Peter Davison. He was a great Doctor.
Besides, do you really think any of the others could pull
off a decorative vegetable?
Verily, in article <10o2jvv$mfgd$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
The
ratings had already dropped to 4 million for Full Circle
when people didn't like the change of look.
Would you really stop watching because of the Doctor's
costume? I don't think I would, especially if it were just an
accessory.
So NEANDERTHALS do STILL EXIST!!
On 2/03/2026 8:32 am, The True Melissa wrote:
Dang it. As a prehistory buff, I cannot let this pass.
Verily, in article <10o2232$fvqm$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
A boy from 200,000 years ago would think exactly like us and be
capable of passing their school exams and even obtaining a PhD.
You went much too far back. If you'd said 30,000 years I would have
agreed, but 200,000 is *well* before the Creative Explosion. Our bodies
were the same, but our brains weren't quite done.
and THAT is what you think is wrong with the idea??
In either time-frame, where did the boy get a T.V. from .... let alone
the Electricity to run it?? ;-P
----
Daniel70
On 2/03/2026 8:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/03/2026 21:32, The True Melissa wrote:
Dang it. As a prehistory buff, I cannot let this pass.
Verily, in article <10o2232$fvqm$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
A boy from 200,000 years ago would think exactly like us and be
capable of passing their school exams and even obtaining a PhD.
You went much too far back. If you'd said 30,000 years I would
have
No I shouldn't because that would be racist.
Sorry. Did Racist exist back then, too??
agreed, but 200,000 is *well* before the Creative Explosion. Our
bodies were the same, but our brains weren't quite done.
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo
Sapiens who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and didn't
migrate into Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not have
undergone these changes to their brain configuration independently.
It also implies that no one but a single linage that evolved 30,000
years ago
had the ability to read and write and even comprehend spoken language
which as we all know is pure bullshit.
Sorry!! Are you suggesting that ONLY one homo- lineage had any chance of >surviving into the NOW??
These abilities have to have been present in all Homo Sapiens 200,000
years ago,
So WHAT??
or else the timeline for their migration is wrong and it only
occurred in the past 10,000 years,
WHY??
which would have allowed for the interbreeding and spread of these
changes to have occurred in Africa
Or "Out of Africa"!!
when the populations were in close proximity.
----
Daniel70
On 2/03/2026 10:48 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/03/2026 23:10, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2crc$jvu7$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo Sapiens >>>> who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and didn't migrate into >>>> Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not have undergone these
changes to their brain configuration independently.
Who said they did? DNA spreads. Don't forget that there are traces of
Neanderthal DNA in native African populations.
Actually there isn't. That's what differentiates them from Europeans and
Asians. Up to 5% of European and Asian DNA is from Neanderthals or
Denisovans.
So NEANDERTHALS do STILL EXIST!!
The Creative Explosion is racist ideology. We know full well
that there are no African or Australian aboriginal populations that
can't read and write when taught,
because THEY were intelligent enough to improve themselves along the way.
or that they any worse at it thanWho's to say that the Europeans weren't intelligent enough to improve >themselves over the intervening years??
Europeans and Asians, so they must have been capable of doing so at
least 200,000 years ago before the migrations out of Africa began.
Otherwise the timeline of those migrations has to be wrong.
----
Daniel70
On 2/03/2026 5:15 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/03/2026 10:08, Daniel70 wrote:
On 1/03/2026 5:20 am, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 28/02/2026 11:24, Blueshirt wrote:
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
YW.
What story are we doing next week?
Today's writers don't care about quality. AI can write better
than and of these clueless hacks.
Can and probably does!
I reckon most of the modern writers on the show just feed their
ideas into Sudowrite and then create their scripts from the
story they get given back.
No one will remember the degenerate modern crap that they
wrote or even want to rewatch it and discuss it 50 years later.
I can see it now...
RADW Doctor Who Watch Party: Date, 10th May 2069:
Why "10th May 2069"?? Surely it would occur on 23rd Nov, 2063 ... or
there-abouts.
Because it's exactly 50 years after The Woman Who Fell to Earth. Do you
have any basic understanding of what we are discussing? Do you know when
The Brain of Morbius first aired?
Ah!!O.K., I was just looking at The Century of "Doctor Who" first being >televised.
Three AI writing bots spend days on the vacuum that RADW became
once we all died, going back and forth on the merits of "The
Woman Who Fell to Earth"...
A fourth AI bot then joins the fray and generates... "REtcon the
Timliess Childd"
AH!! No! Are these AI, Binky AI??
in multiple one-line responses... which causes
the other AI bots to have a meltdown and destroy the world.
I think the series needs to be rebooted from the TV again in
the orginal manner of the series and all the RTD era should
be completely erased from canon.
You always have go that one step too far, don't you?!
Yeap. If the RTD era is completely erased from "Doctor Who" history,
then the Newbies out there will be bitching about the Doctor' 9, 10,
11, 12 and 13 that THEY remember have been done away with!!
F*k them. Doctor Who fans don't care any more about any of these fake
Doctors.
Oh!! Really! "fake"?? ;-P
I do think that the show should be rebooted for a modern
audience... go back to an old man on Gallifrey that gets bored
with his stuffy peers and all their rules and regulations about
non-interference, so decides to run away and explore the
Universe with a stolen time machine...-a-a a Time Lord that just
wants to have fun.
Run away in a STOLEN Time Machine .... with his TEENAGE
Granddaughter!! We can't have that, can we??
It was perfectly OK for a grandfather to take his granddaughter on a
sight seeing trip, until the sick, disgusting, degenerate, sex obsessed,
pervert RTD decided to make the Time Lords all sterile, meaning that
Time Lords can't have children let along grand children.
Ah!! So The Doctor being half-human MUST be protecting him from THIS >situation!!
----
Daniel70
On 1/03/2026 10:47 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o11jl$3vaf$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
If Aggy, you and me HAD been watching it way back when, AND
knowing that The Doctor HAD changed his appearance several time
before .... AND we saw those previous incarnations in the stream
of faces, would it have been reasonable for US to think ALL of
the faces shown might have been previous incarnations of The
Doctor??
Yes, of course. If you just sit and watch the episode, it's
obvious that they're prior Doctors. We're more or less told that.
Morbius says, "How old are you, Doctor?" as he pushes back through
the incarnations we know, then adds, "How old are you really?" as
he pushes into the unknown faces.
That's true, and clearly that was the way the producers intended
it... but I'm not sure watching it back then I would have
comprehended somebody being before the First Doctor.
And a lot of people would agree with that.
Tom Baker had been constantly referred to as the Fourth Doctor after
all.
But HE was my Second Doctor .... until some mongrel starting
introducing the previous two! Umm!! Err!! "previous MANY"!!
Then "The Brain of Morbius" Target novel went and changed the
emphasis of the faces and that version stuck with a lot of fandom.
I always figured this is why the Watcher popped up to deliver more
incarnations,
Sorry!! WHAT?? More incarnations?? I've never heard that that was his >purpose!!
when the one we call the fourth died. The Doctor had already
reincarnated twelve times, counting the Morbius Doctors, so
something else had to be done.
Reinvent the Rules!!
--Chris Chibnall must have thought so too...--
It is a bummer that the longstanding argument over the faces has
swamped everything else about the episode. It's good. I recommend
it.
Yes, it's typical fandom mumbo jumbo.
Daniel70
Verily, in article <10o2j8k$m6co$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
On 01/03/2026 23:10, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2crc$jvu7$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo Sapiens
who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and didn't migrate into >> >> Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not have undergone these
changes to their brain configuration independently.
Who said they did? DNA spreads. Don't forget that there are traces of
Neanderthal DNA in native African populations.
Actually there isn't. That's what differentiates them from Europeans and
Asians. Up to 5% of European and Asian DNA is from Neanderthals or
Denisovans.
You're correct about a *higher* percentage, but you're forgetting that
trace Neanderthal is in African and Asian descent,just as trace
Denisovan is present in white and black people. There's also the ancient >lineage to consider.
Here's an overview:
https://iere.org/which-race-has-most-neanderthal-dna/
White people have the most, but others still have some.
----
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United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
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Verily, in article <10o2jvv$mfgd$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
The
ratings had already dropped to 4 million for Full Circle when people
didn't like the change of look.
Would you really stop watching because of the Doctor's costume? I don't >think I would, especially if it were just an accessory.
----
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United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
On 02/03/2026 11:39, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2jvv$mfgd$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
The
ratings had already dropped to 4 million for Full Circle when people
didn't like the change of look.
Would you really stop watching because of the Doctor's costume? I don't
think I would, especially if it were just an accessory.
JN-T wanted to tell everyone this is not the Doctor Who they used to
know but his Doctor Who. New titles, new theme, new costume, new
everything, and he pissed off Tom Baker so he resigned.
Why else did people stop watching? I'm not buying the excuse of The--
A-Team or Buck Rogers in the 25th Century on ITV which had already been >cancelled after 1 1/2 seasons, or that it couldn't compete with Star
Wars. Buck Rogers couldn't either.
--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2232$fvqm$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
Well lets erase everything from Peter Davison onwards from
canon then.
We must never erase Peter Davison. He was a great Doctor.
Besides, do you really think any of the others could pull
off a decorative vegetable?
There's no need to talk about Adric like that!
And what happens in the TARDIS stays in the TARDIS.
The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2jvv$mfgd$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
The
ratings had already dropped to 4 million for Full Circle
when people didn't like the change of look.
Would you really stop watching because of the Doctor's
costume? I don't think I would, especially if it were just an
accessory.
I thought the Sixth Doctor's costume was s*t, but it was a
different kind of s*t that turned me off his era...
Daniel70 wrote:
So NEANDERTHALS do STILL EXIST!!
... and some are even on Usenet!
On 02/03/2026 11:39, The True Melissa wrote:
Would you really stop watching because of the Doctor's costume? I don't think I would, especially if it were just an accessory.
JN-T wanted to tell everyone this is not the Doctor Who they used to
know but his Doctor Who. New titles, new theme, new costume, new
everything, and he pissed off Tom Baker so he resigned.
Why else did people stop watching? I'm not buying the excuse of The
A-Team or Buck Rogers in the 25th Century on ITV which had already been cancelled after 1 1/2 seasons, or that it couldn't compete with Star
Wars. Buck Rogers couldn't either.
The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2jvv$mfgd$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
The
ratings had already dropped to 4 million for Full Circle
when people didn't like the change of look.
Would you really stop watching because of the Doctor's
costume? I don't think I would, especially if it were just an
accessory.
I thought the Sixth Doctor's costume was shit, but it was a
different kind of shit that turned me off his era...
Verily, in article <10o41hq$159u1$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
On 02/03/2026 11:39, The True Melissa wrote:
Would you really stop watching because of the Doctor's costume? I don't
think I would, especially if it were just an accessory.
JN-T wanted to tell everyone this is not the Doctor Who they used to
know but his Doctor Who. New titles, new theme, new costume, new
everything, and he pissed off Tom Baker so he resigned.
Why else did people stop watching? I'm not buying the excuse of The
A-Team or Buck Rogers in the 25th Century on ITV which had already been
cancelled after 1 1/2 seasons, or that it couldn't compete with Star
Wars. Buck Rogers couldn't either.
It's fairly normal for a show's viewership to decline over time. Some
people get tired of it, and fewer new people replace them. If a specific >other show had impact, it was probably more by attracting the potential
new viewers than by getting loyal ones to change the channel.
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Verily, in article <xn0pmsvs2bg04q9002@post.eweka.nl>, did >blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2jvv$mfgd$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
The
ratings had already dropped to 4 million for Full Circle
when people didn't like the change of look.
Would you really stop watching because of the Doctor's
costume? I don't think I would, especially if it were just an
accessory.
I thought the Sixth Doctor's costume was s*t, but it was a
different kind of s*t that turned me off his era...
You're not the only one, on both points.
----
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United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
Verily, in article <10o41hq$159u1$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
Why else did people stop watching? I'm not buying the
excuse of The A-Team or Buck Rogers in the 25th Century
on ITV which had already been cancelled after 1 1/2 seasons,
or that it couldn't compete with Star Wars. Buck Rogers
couldn't either.
It's fairly normal for a show's viewership to decline over
time. Some people get tired of it, and fewer new people
replace them. If a specific other show had impact, it was
probably more by attracting the potential new viewers than by
getting loyal ones to change the channel.
On 2/03/2026 10:48 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/03/2026 23:10, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2crc$jvu7$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo Sapiens >>>> who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and didn't migrate into >>>> Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not have undergone these
changes to their brain configuration independently.
Who said they did? DNA spreads. Don't forget that there are traces of
Neanderthal DNA in native African populations.
Actually there isn't. That's what differentiates them from Europeans
and Asians. Up to 5% of European and Asian DNA is from Neanderthals or
Denisovans.
So NEANDERTHALS do STILL EXIST!!
The Creative Explosion is racist ideology. We know full well that
there are no African or Australian aboriginal populations that can't
read and write when taught,
because THEY were intelligent enough to improve themselves along the way.
or that they any worse at it than Europeans and Asians, so they mustWho's to say that the Europeans weren't intelligent enough to improve themselves over the intervening years??
have been capable of doing so at least 200,000 years ago before the
migrations out of Africa began. Otherwise the timeline of those
migrations has to be wrong.
On 2/03/2026 5:15 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/03/2026 10:08, Daniel70 wrote:
On 1/03/2026 5:20 am, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 28/02/2026 11:24, Blueshirt wrote:
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
YW.
What story are we doing next week?
Today's writers don't care about quality. AI can write better
than and of these clueless hacks.
Can and probably does!
I reckon most of the modern writers on the show just feed their
ideas into Sudowrite and then create their scripts from the
story they get given back.
No one will remember the degenerate modern crap that they
wrote or even want to rewatch it and discuss it 50 years later.
I can see it now...
RADW Doctor Who Watch Party: Date, 10th May 2069:
Why "10th May 2069"?? Surely it would occur on 23rd Nov, 2063 ... or
there-abouts.
Because it's exactly 50 years after The Woman Who Fell to Earth. Do
you have any basic understanding of what we are discussing? Do you
know when The Brain of Morbius first aired?
Ah!!O.K., I was just looking at The Century of "Doctor Who" first being televised.
Three AI writing bots spend days on the vacuum that RADW became
once we all died, going back and forth on the merits of "The
Woman Who Fell to Earth"...
A fourth AI bot then joins the fray and generates... "REtcon the
Timliess Childd"
AH!! No! Are these AI, Binky AI??
in multiple one-line responses... which causes
the other AI bots to have a meltdown and destroy the world.
I think the series needs to be rebooted from the TV again in
the orginal manner of the series and all the RTD era should
be completely erased from canon.
You always have go that one step too far, don't you?!
Yeap. If the RTD era is completely erased from "Doctor Who" history,
then the Newbies out there will be bitching about the Doctor' 9, 10,
11, 12 and 13 that THEY remember have been done away with!!
Fuck them. Doctor Who fans don't care any more about any of these fake
Doctors.
Oh!! Really! "fake"?? ;-P
I do think that the show should be rebooted for a modern
audience... go back to an old man on Gallifrey that gets bored
with his stuffy peers and all their rules and regulations about
non-interference, so decides to run away and explore the
Universe with a stolen time machine...-a-a a Time Lord that just
wants to have fun.
Run away in a STOLEN Time Machine .... with his TEENAGE
Granddaughter!! We can't have that, can we??
It was perfectly OK for a grandfather to take his granddaughter on a
sight seeing trip, until the sick, disgusting, degenerate, sex
obsessed, pervert RTD decided to make the Time Lords all sterile,
meaning that Time Lords can't have children let along grand children.
Ah!! So The Doctor being half-human MUST be protecting him from THIS situation!!
The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o41hq$159u1$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
Why else did people stop watching? I'm not buying the
excuse of The A-Team or Buck Rogers in the 25th Century
on ITV which had already been cancelled after 1 1/2 seasons,
or that it couldn't compete with Star Wars. Buck Rogers
couldn't either.
It's fairly normal for a show's viewership to decline over
time. Some people get tired of it, and fewer new people
replace them. If a specific other show had impact, it was
probably more by attracting the potential new viewers than by
getting loyal ones to change the channel.
Some people grow out of certain TV shows, or they just get
older, have a life and become too busy... or maybe even they die.
Classic era "Doctor Who" viewership was at its peak during the
Tom Baker era, once he left the show the ratings went downwards.
Whether it was just because he left and people couldn't relate
the The Vet & those that followed him, or the show itself was
much worse quality is open to debate.
On 02/03/2026 10:21, Daniel70 wrote:
Ah!! O.K., I was just looking at The Century of "Doctor
Who" first being televised.
You should have been reading properly.
Verily, in article <xn0pmt4qfbs8u1r000@post.eweka.nl>, did blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
Some people grow out of certain TV shows, or they just get
older, have a life and become too busy... or maybe even they
die.
Classic era "Doctor Who" viewership was at its peak during
the Tom Baker era, once he left the show the ratings went
downwards. Whether it was just because he left and people
couldn't relate the The Vet & those that followed him, or
the show itself was much worse quality is open to debate.
When I first watched on PBS, when I was about 14, I stopped
shortly after the change. I hadn't heard of regeneration --
living in the United States, I was culturally deprived --
so had no idea what had just happened. They'd recast the Doctor
and changed his iconic costume, so this wasn't like the usual
recast where we all pretend nothing's changed, but what was it?
I didn't really evaluate Peter Davison on his own merits
because I was confused. I regret that now; as an adult, I like
Five a lot.
In article
<MPG.440f6fd81957f90e989b15@news.eternal-september.org>, The
True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
It's fairly normal for a show's viewership to decline over
time. Some people get tired of it, and fewer new people
replace them. If a specific other show had impact, it was
probably more by attracting the potential new viewers than
by getting loyal ones to change the channel.
Viewership at it peak was over 7 million.
In article
<MPG.440f717438e41a5f989b16@news.eternal-september.org>, The
True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <xn0pmsvs2bg04q9002@post.eweka.nl>, did blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
I thought the Sixth Doctor's costume was shit, but it was
a different kind of shit that turned me off his era...
You're not the only one, on both points.
Typical reaction from the fandom.
The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o41hq$159u1$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
Why else did people stop watching? I'm not buying the
excuse of The A-Team or Buck Rogers in the 25th Century
on ITV which had already been cancelled after 1 1/2 seasons,
or that it couldn't compete with Star Wars. Buck Rogers
couldn't either.
It's fairly normal for a show's viewership to decline over
time. Some people get tired of it, and fewer new people
replace them. If a specific other show had impact, it was
probably more by attracting the potential new viewers than by
getting loyal ones to change the channel.
Some people grow out of certain TV shows, or they just get
older, have a life and become too busy... or maybe even they die.
Classic era "Doctor Who" viewership was at its peak during the
Tom Baker era, once he left the show the ratings went downwards.
Whether it was just because he left and people couldn't relate
the The Vet & those that followed him, or the show itself was
much worse quality is open to debate.
On 2/03/2026 8:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/03/2026 21:32, The True Melissa wrote:
Dang it. As a prehistory buff, I cannot let this pass.
Verily, in article <10o2232$fvqm$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
A boy from 200,000 years ago would think exactly like us and be
capable of passing their school exams and even obtaining a PhD.
You went much too far back. If you'd said 30,000 years I would
have
No I shouldn't because that would be racist.
Sorry. Did Racist exist back then, too??
agreed, but 200,000 is *well* before the Creative Explosion. Our
bodies were the same, but our brains weren't quite done.
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo
Sapiens who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and didn't
migrate into Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not have
undergone these changes to their brain configuration independently.
It also implies that no one but a single linage that evolved 30,000
years ago
had the ability to read and write and even comprehend spoken language
which as we all know is pure bullshit.
Sorry!! Are you suggesting that ONLY one homo- lineage had any chance of surviving into the NOW??
These abilities have to have been present in all Homo Sapiens 200,000
years ago,
So WHAT??
or else the timeline for their migration is wrong and it only
occurred in the past 10,000 years,
WHY??
--which would have allowed for the interbreeding and spread of these
changes to have occurred in Africa
Or "Out of Africa"!!
when the populations were in close proximity.
The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o41hq$159u1$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
Why else did people stop watching? I'm not buying the
excuse of The A-Team or Buck Rogers in the 25th Century
on ITV which had already been cancelled after 1 1/2 seasons,
or that it couldn't compete with Star Wars. Buck Rogers
couldn't either.
It's fairly normal for a show's viewership to decline over
time. Some people get tired of it, and fewer new people
replace them. If a specific other show had impact, it was
probably more by attracting the potential new viewers than by
getting loyal ones to change the channel.
Some people grow out of certain TV shows, or they just get
older, have a life and become too busy... or maybe even they die.
Classic era "Doctor Who" viewership was at its peak during the
Tom Baker era, once he left the show the ratings went downwards.
Whether it was just because he left and people couldn't relate
the The Vet & those that followed him, or the show itself was
much worse quality is open to debate.
On 02/03/2026 10:12, Daniel70 wrote:
On 2/03/2026 10:48 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/03/2026 23:10, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2crc$jvu7$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo Sapiens >>>>> who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and didn't migrate into >>>>> Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not have undergone these
changes to their brain configuration independently.
Who said they did? DNA spreads. Don't forget that there are traces of
Neanderthal DNA in native African populations.
Actually there isn't. That's what differentiates them from Europeans
and Asians. Up to 5% of European and Asian DNA is from Neanderthals or
Denisovans.
So NEANDERTHALS do STILL EXIST!!
The Creative Explosion is racist ideology. We know full well that
there are no African or Australian aboriginal populations that can't
read and write when taught,
because THEY were intelligent enough to improve themselves along the way.
That's racist bull. Africans and Aboriginals were already fully
developed in Africa. No changes in intelligence of any race took place
after they left Africa.
or that they any worse at it than Europeans and Asians, so they mustWho's to say that the Europeans weren't intelligent enough to improve
have been capable of doing so at least 200,000 years ago before the
migrations out of Africa began. Otherwise the timeline of those
migrations has to be wrong.
themselves over the intervening years??
And the converse of that is that Africans and Aboriginals who were >illiterate and numerate until they were discovered by Europeans were not >able to improve themselves. This entire principle is racist and easily >disproven by the fact that Africans and Aboriginals posses university >degrees and PhDs without any interbreeding with Europeans or Asians.
Either everyone possessed the same brain functions when Homo Sapiens
left Africa 200,000 years ago, or the timeline is completely wrong. I >personally think the timeline is completely wrong and the migration out
of Africa and towards other parts of Africa didn't take place until
10,000 years ago. How else can you possibly explain the non-existence of >either writing or language anywhere in the world before 10,000 years ago >when even a 3 or 4 year old child can read and write and an 18 month old
can communicate through language? Biologists and archaeologists have got >their timelines wrong. Where are the skeletons of Homo Sapiens which are >older than 10,000 years old anyway? I don't remember there being any.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 02/03/2026 10:21, Daniel70 wrote:
On 2/03/2026 5:15 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/03/2026 10:08, Daniel70 wrote:
On 1/03/2026 5:20 am, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 28/02/2026 11:24, Blueshirt wrote:
Thanks for the invite to your "watch party"...
YW.
What story are we doing next week?
Today's writers don't care about quality. AI can write better
than and of these clueless hacks.
Can and probably does!
I reckon most of the modern writers on the show just feed their
ideas into Sudowrite and then create their scripts from the
story they get given back.
No one will remember the degenerate modern crap that they
wrote or even want to rewatch it and discuss it 50 years later.
I can see it now...
RADW Doctor Who Watch Party: Date, 10th May 2069:
Why "10th May 2069"?? Surely it would occur on 23rd Nov, 2063 ... or
there-abouts.
Because it's exactly 50 years after The Woman Who Fell to Earth. Do
you have any basic understanding of what we are discussing? Do you
know when The Brain of Morbius first aired?
Ah!!O.K., I was just looking at The Century of "Doctor Who" first being
televised.
You should have been reading properly.
Three AI writing bots spend days on the vacuum that RADW became
once we all died, going back and forth on the merits of "The
Woman Who Fell to Earth"...
A fourth AI bot then joins the fray and generates... "REtcon the
Timliess Childd"
AH!! No! Are these AI, Binky AI??
in multiple one-line responses... which causes
the other AI bots to have a meltdown and destroy the world.
I think the series needs to be rebooted from the TV again in
the orginal manner of the series and all the RTD era should
be completely erased from canon.
You always have go that one step too far, don't you?!
Yeap. If the RTD era is completely erased from "Doctor Who" history,
then the Newbies out there will be bitching about the Doctor' 9, 10,
11, 12 and 13 that THEY remember have been done away with!!
Fuck them. Doctor Who fans don't care any more about any of these fake
Doctors.
Oh!! Really! "fake"?? ;-P
Yes. All of them are fake. The Doctor isn't a genocidal sex and gender >swapping monster from another dimension created from an abused child.
I do think that the show should be rebooted for a modern
audience... go back to an old man on Gallifrey that gets bored
with his stuffy peers and all their rules and regulations about
non-interference, so decides to run away and explore the
Universe with a stolen time machine...-a-a a Time Lord that just
wants to have fun.
Run away in a STOLEN Time Machine .... with his TEENAGE
Granddaughter!! We can't have that, can we??
It was perfectly OK for a grandfather to take his granddaughter on a
sight seeing trip, until the sick, disgusting, degenerate, sex
obsessed, pervert RTD decided to make the Time Lords all sterile,
meaning that Time Lords can't have children let along grand children.
Ah!! So The Doctor being half-human MUST be protecting him from THIS
situation!!
There was no such situation. The Time Lords have always been able to
have children and interbreed with humans otherwise what is the point of >Andred and Leela. The Time Lords are a future human colony on Gillifray
as is implied in The Brain of Morbius.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
Verily, in article <xn0pmt4qfbs8u1r000@post.eweka.nl>, did >blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o41hq$159u1$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
Why else did people stop watching? I'm not buying the
excuse of The A-Team or Buck Rogers in the 25th Century
on ITV which had already been cancelled after 1 1/2 seasons,
or that it couldn't compete with Star Wars. Buck Rogers
couldn't either.
It's fairly normal for a show's viewership to decline over
time. Some people get tired of it, and fewer new people
replace them. If a specific other show had impact, it was
probably more by attracting the potential new viewers than by
getting loyal ones to change the channel.
Some people grow out of certain TV shows, or they just get
older, have a life and become too busy... or maybe even they die.
Classic era "Doctor Who" viewership was at its peak during the
Tom Baker era, once he left the show the ratings went downwards.
Whether it was just because he left and people couldn't relate
the The Vet & those that followed him, or the show itself was
much worse quality is open to debate.
When I first watched on PBS, when I was about 14, I stopped shortly
after the change. I hadn't heard of regeneration -- living in the United >States, I was culturally deprived -- so I had no idea what had just >happened. They'd recast the Doctor and changed his iconic costume, so
this wasn't like the usual recast where we all pretend nothing's
changed, but what was it?
I didn't really evaluate Peter Davison on his own merits because I was >confused. I regret that now; as an adult, I like Five a lot.
I'm not sure how they could have addressed viewer confusion. He's
usually in no condition to talk after he regenerates, but maybe he could >leave a note. At least for those regenerations where he knows it's
coming, some information for the companions and us might be in order.
----
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United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
The True Doctor wrote:
On 02/03/2026 10:21, Daniel70 wrote:
Ah!! O.K., I was just looking at The Century of "Doctor
Who" first being televised.
You should have been reading properly.
Incidentally, I wonder if any of us here will be around to
celebrate the Centenary of Doctor Who in 2063?
I'm sure the BBC will make a special episode for the occasion.
It'd be a shame to miss it...
The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <xn0pmt4qfbs8u1r000@post.eweka.nl>, did
blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
Some people grow out of certain TV shows, or they just get
older, have a life and become too busy... or maybe even they
die.
Classic era "Doctor Who" viewership was at its peak during
the Tom Baker era, once he left the show the ratings went
downwards. Whether it was just because he left and people
couldn't relate the The Vet & those that followed him, or
the show itself was much worse quality is open to debate.
When I first watched on PBS, when I was about 14, I stopped
shortly after the change. I hadn't heard of regeneration --
living in the United States, I was culturally deprived --
You had Doctor Who to watch on PBS... was that not enough?!
so had no idea what had just happened. They'd recast the Doctor
and changed his iconic costume, so this wasn't like the usual
recast where we all pretend nothing's changed, but what was it?
It was that Vet guy with piece of celery on his lapel...
I didn't really evaluate Peter Davison on his own merits
because I was confused. I regret that now; as an adult, I like
Five a lot.
Five was actually okay but for "Doctor Who" generally it was the
beginning of the end.
Most of us knew what regeneration was, as we had previous
experience with the Pertwee to Baker change, or maybe before
that even for some, or we had read the Target novels (etc.) but
even so, sometimes the change was a bit jerky. Tom Baker to
Peter Davison was like that for me, Jon Pertwee to Tom Baker
wasn't, for some reason...
The Doctor wrote:
In article
<MPG.440f6fd81957f90e989b15@news.eternal-september.org>, The
True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
It's fairly normal for a show's viewership to decline over
time. Some people get tired of it, and fewer new people
replace them. If a specific other show had impact, it was
probably more by attracting the potential new viewers than
by getting loyal ones to change the channel.
Viewership at it peak was over 7 million.
Well, that is actually true, but... Doctor Who viewership at its
peak was actually around 16 million. (One of the "City of Death"
episodes, as ITV were on strike so everybody in the UK had to
watch BBC1.)
Generally the latter Tom Baker era was getting around 10 million
viewers... it declined after that and ended up around 4-5
million by the time the spoon-playing clown was in the TARDIS.
The Doctor wrote:
In article
<MPG.440f717438e41a5f989b16@news.eternal-september.org>, The
True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
Verily, in article <xn0pmsvs2bg04q9002@post.eweka.nl>, did
blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
I thought the Sixth Doctor's costume was shit, but it was
a different kind of shit that turned me off his era...
You're not the only one, on both points.
Typical reaction from the fandom.
An honest reaction to the insanity that JNT inflicted on
everyone in the name of entertainment.
On 02/03/2026 18:59, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o41hq$159u1$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
Why else did people stop watching? I'm not buying the
excuse of The A-Team or Buck Rogers in the 25th Century
on ITV which had already been cancelled after 1 1/2 seasons,
or that it couldn't compete with Star Wars. Buck Rogers
couldn't either.
It's fairly normal for a show's viewership to decline over
time. Some people get tired of it, and fewer new people
replace them. If a specific other show had impact, it was
probably more by attracting the potential new viewers than by
getting loyal ones to change the channel.
Some people grow out of certain TV shows, or they just get
older, have a life and become too busy... or maybe even they die.
Classic era "Doctor Who" viewership was at its peak during the
Tom Baker era, once he left the show the ratings went downwards.
Whether it was just because he left and people couldn't relate
the The Vet & those that followed him, or the show itself was
much worse quality is open to debate.
A year early Tom Baker was getting a record 17 million viewers. Then the >ratings go down to 4 million when JN-T takes over as producer and
changes everything.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 02/03/2026 10:04, Daniel70 wrote:
On 2/03/2026 8:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/03/2026 21:32, The True Melissa wrote:
Dang it. As a prehistory buff, I cannot let this pass.
Verily, in article <10o2232$fvqm$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
A boy from 200,000 years ago would think exactly like us and be
capable of passing their school exams and even obtaining a PhD.
You went much too far back. If you'd said 30,000 years I would
have
No I shouldn't because that would be racist.
Sorry. Did Racist exist back then, too??
agreed, but 200,000 is *well* before the Creative Explosion. Our
bodies were the same, but our brains weren't quite done.
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo
Sapiens who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and didn't
migrate into Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not have
undergone these changes to their brain configuration independently.
It also implies that no one but a single linage that evolved 30,000
years ago
had the ability to read and write and even comprehend spoken language
which as we all know is pure bullshit.
Sorry!! Are you suggesting that ONLY one homo- lineage had any chance of
surviving into the NOW??
These abilities have to have been present in all Homo Sapiens 200,000
years ago,
So WHAT??
If the mutations for language and writing skills were not there already
then there is no way they could have evolved 30,000 years ago and been >transferred to the isolated populations of sub-Saharan Africa and
Australia. The beneficial mutations regarding intelligence wouldn't have >even been able to be transferred from South-East Asia to Europe or
Europe to South-East Asia. The theory is wrong and it clear that it is >totally wrong.
or else the timeline for their migration is wrong and it only
occurred in the past 10,000 years,
WHY??
Because that is when language and writing developed. Why didn't it
develop earlier?
which would have allowed for the interbreeding and spread of these
changes to have occurred in Africa
Or "Out of Africa"!!
when the populations were in close proximity.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
Incidentally, I wonder if any of us here will be around to
celebrate the Centenary of Doctor Who in 2063?
I'm sure the BBC will make a special episode for the occasion.
It'd be a shame to miss it...
The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o41hq$159u1$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
Why else did people stop watching? I'm not buying the
excuse of The A-Team or Buck Rogers in the 25th Century
on ITV which had already been cancelled after 1 1/2 seasons,
or that it couldn't compete with Star Wars. Buck Rogers
couldn't either.
It's fairly normal for a show's viewership to decline over
time. Some people get tired of it, and fewer new people
replace them. If a specific other show had impact, it was
probably more by attracting the potential new viewers than by
getting loyal ones to change the channel.
Some people grow out of certain TV shows, or they just get
older, have a life and become too busy... or maybe even they die.
Classic era "Doctor Who" viewership was at its peak during the
Tom Baker era, once he left the show the ratings went downwards.
Whether it was just because he left and people couldn't relate
the The Vet & those that followed him, or the show itself was
much worse quality is open to debate.
Verily, in article <xn0pmt70z328enc000@post.eweka.nl>, did blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
Incidentally, I wonder if any of us here will be around to
celebrate the Centenary of Doctor Who in 2063?
I'm sure the BBC will make a special episode for the
occasion.
It'd be a shame to miss it...
I won't be watching. I don't expect to live that long.
On 3/03/2026 5:59 am, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Melissa wrote:
It's fairly normal for a show's viewership to decline over
time. Some people get tired of it, and fewer new people
replace them. If a specific other show had impact, it was
probably more by attracting the potential new viewers than
by getting loyal ones to change the channel.
Some people grow out of certain TV shows, or they just get
older, have a life and become too busy... or maybe even they
die.
Classic era "Doctor Who" viewership was at its peak during
the Tom Baker era, once he left the show the ratings went
downwards. Whether it was just because he left and people
couldn't relate the The Vet & those that followed him, or
the show itself was much worse quality is open to debate.
Lies, Damned Lies and Statics!!
So some extent, could it have been that the same number of
people/kids were watching back then .... but there were so
many more people getting T.V.'s that the "same number"
represented a smaller portion of TOTAL viewers??
In article <xn0pmt4qfbs8u1r000@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Classic era "Doctor Who" viewership was at its peak during
the Tom Baker era, once he left the show the ratings went
downwards. Whether it was just because he left and people
couldn't relate the The Vet & those that followed him, or
the show itself was much worse quality, is open to debate.
That is a matter of opinion.
On 02/03/2026 10:12, Daniel70 wrote:
On 2/03/2026 10:48 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/03/2026 23:10, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2crc$jvu7$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the
Homo Sapiens who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago
and didn't migrate into Asia and Europe did not undergo and
could not have undergone these changes to their brain
configuration independently.
Who said they did? DNA spreads. Don't forget that there are
traces of Neanderthal DNA in native African populations.
Actually there isn't. That's what differentiates them from
Europeans and Asians. Up to 5% of European and Asian DNA is from
Neanderthals or Denisovans.
So NEANDERTHALS do STILL EXIST!!
The Creative Explosion is racist ideology. We know full well that
there are no African or Australian aboriginal populations that
can't read and write when taught,
because THEY were intelligent enough to improve themselves along
the way.
That's racist bullshit.
Africans and Aboriginals were already fully developed in Africa.
No changes in intelligence of any race took place after they left
Africa.
or that they any worse at it than Europeans and Asians, so theyWho's to say that the Europeans weren't intelligent enough to
must have been capable of doing so at least 200,000 years ago
before the migrations out of Africa began. Otherwise the timeline
of those migrations has to be wrong.
improve themselves over the intervening years??
And the converse of that is that Africans and Aboriginals who were illiterate and numerate
until they were discovered by Europeans
were not able to improve themselves.
This entire principle
is racist and easily disproven by the fact that Africans and
Aboriginals posses university degrees and PhDs without any
interbreeding with Europeans or Asians.
Either everyone possessed the same brain functions when Homo Sapiens
left Africa 200,000 years ago, or the timeline is completely wrong.
I personally think the timeline is completely wrong and the migration
out of Africa and towards other parts of Africa didn't take place
until 10,000 years ago.
How else can you possibly explain the non-existence of either
writing or language anywhere in the world before 10,000 years ago
when even a 3 or 4 year old child can read and write and an 18 month
old can communicate through language?
Biologists and archaeologists have got their timelines wrong.
Where are the skeletons of Homo Sapiens which are older than 10,000
years old anyway? I don't remember there being any.
There was no such situation. The Time Lords have always been able to
have children and interbreed with humans otherwise what is the point
of Andred and Leela.
The Time Lords are a future human colony on Gillifray
as is implied in The Brain of Morbius.
The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <xn0pmt70z328enc000@post.eweka.nl>, did
blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
Incidentally, I wonder if any of us here will be around to
celebrate the Centenary of Doctor Who in 2063?
I'm sure the BBC will make a special episode for the
occasion.
It'd be a shame to miss it...
I won't be watching. I don't expect to live that long.
I wouldn't think many of us will be around in 2063...
To those that do make it... well done!
On 3/03/2026 10:11 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
I wouldn't think many of us will be around in 2063...
To those that do make it... well done!
Me .... 107'ish .... so not likely, even though both Mum
and Dad made it past 80!!
On 02/03/2026 10:04, Daniel70 wrote:
On 2/03/2026 8:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/03/2026 21:32, The True Melissa wrote:
Dang it. As a prehistory buff, I cannot let this pass.
Verily, in article <10o2232$fvqm$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
A boy from 200,000 years ago would think exactly like us and
be capable of passing their school exams and even obtaining a
PhD.
You went much too far back. If you'd said 30,000 years I would
have
No I shouldn't because that would be racist.
Sorry. Did Racist exist back then, too??
agreed, but 200,000 is *well* before the Creative Explosion.
Our bodies were the same, but our brains weren't quite done.
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo
Sapiens who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and
didn't migrate into Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not
have undergone these changes to their brain configuration
independently. It also implies that no one but a single linage
that evolved 30,000 years ago had the ability to read and write
and even comprehend spoken language which as we all know is pure
bullshit.
Sorry!! Are you suggesting that ONLY one homo- lineage had any
chance of surviving into the NOW??
These abilities have to have been present in all Homo Sapiens
200,000 years ago,
So WHAT??
If the mutations for language and writing skills were not there
already then there is no way they could have evolved 30,000 years ago
and been transferred to the isolated populations of sub-Saharan
Africa and Australia.
The beneficial mutations regarding intelligence wouldn't have even
been able to be transferred from South-East Asia to Europe or Europe
to South-East Asia. The theory is wrong and it clear that it is
totally wrong.
or else the timeline for their migration is wrong and it only
occurred in the past 10,000 years,
WHY??
Because that is when language and writing developed. Why didn't it
develop earlier?
--which would have allowed for the interbreeding and spread of
these changes to have occurred in Africa
Or "Out of Africa"!!
when the populations were in close proximity.
Verily, in article <xn0pmt70z328enc000@post.eweka.nl>, did >blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
Incidentally, I wonder if any of us here will be around to
celebrate the Centenary of Doctor Who in 2063?
I'm sure the BBC will make a special episode for the occasion.
It'd be a shame to miss it...
I won't be watching. I don't expect to live that long.
Does RADW have anyone born 1980 or later? It may not. Usenet has
definitely aged.
----
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United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
On 3/03/2026 5:59 am, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Melissa wrote:Lies, Damned Lies and Statics!!
Verily, in article <10o41hq$159u1$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
Why else did people stop watching? I'm not buying the
excuse of The A-Team or Buck Rogers in the 25th Century
on ITV which had already been cancelled after 1 1/2 seasons,
or that it couldn't compete with Star Wars. Buck Rogers
couldn't either.
It's fairly normal for a show's viewership to decline over
time. Some people get tired of it, and fewer new people
replace them. If a specific other show had impact, it was
probably more by attracting the potential new viewers than by
getting loyal ones to change the channel.
Some people grow out of certain TV shows, or they just get
older, have a life and become too busy... or maybe even they die.
Classic era "Doctor Who" viewership was at its peak during the
Tom Baker era, once he left the show the ratings went downwards.
Whether it was just because he left and people couldn't relate
the The Vet & those that followed him, or the show itself was
much worse quality is open to debate.
So some extent, could it have been that the same number of people/kids--
were watching back then .... but there were so many more people getting >T.V.'s that the "same number" represented a smaller portion of TOTAL >viewers??
--
Daniel70
Daniel70 wrote:
On 3/03/2026 5:59 am, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Melissa wrote:Lies, Damned Lies and Statics!!
It's fairly normal for a show's viewership to decline over
time. Some people get tired of it, and fewer new people
replace them. If a specific other show had impact, it was
probably more by attracting the potential new viewers than
by getting loyal ones to change the channel.
Some people grow out of certain TV shows, or they just get
older, have a life and become too busy... or maybe even they
die.
Classic era "Doctor Who" viewership was at its peak during
the Tom Baker era, once he left the show the ratings went
downwards. Whether it was just because he left and people
couldn't relate the The Vet & those that followed him, or
the show itself was much worse quality is open to debate.
So some extent, could it have been that the same number of
people/kids were watching back then .... but there were so
many more people getting T.V.'s that the "same number"
represented a smaller portion of TOTAL viewers??
Well it could have been that... it could also have been that
there was something better on the other side... or the adults in
the house wanted to watch something on the other side... or
maybe the elder kids that used to watch the show thought Doctor
Who had gone down the pan and went and did something else
instead.
Or all of the above...
The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <xn0pmt70z328enc000@post.eweka.nl>, did
blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
Incidentally, I wonder if any of us here will be around to
celebrate the Centenary of Doctor Who in 2063?
I'm sure the BBC will make a special episode for the
occasion.
It'd be a shame to miss it...
I won't be watching. I don't expect to live that long.
I wouldn't think many of us will be around in 2063...
To those that do make it... well done!
The Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0pmt4qfbs8u1r000@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Classic era "Doctor Who" viewership was at its peak during
the Tom Baker era, once he left the show the ratings went
downwards. Whether it was just because he left and people
couldn't relate the The Vet & those that followed him, or
the show itself was much worse quality, is open to debate.
That is a matter of opinion.
No, it's a fact.
"Doctor Who" lost around ten million viewers between 1979 and
1989. There is no argument on this. So it might be uncomfortable
for those fans that like to think the Sixth or Seventh Doctors
were the greatest, but it is well documented that viewers
stopped watching "Doctor Who" during the 1980's.
You can debate why it happened if you want to, but classic era
"Doctor Who" viewership peaked under Tom Baker's Doctor. When he
left, the show went downhill.
On 3/03/2026 6:07 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 02/03/2026 10:12, Daniel70 wrote:
On 2/03/2026 10:48 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/03/2026 23:10, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2crc$jvu7$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the
Homo Sapiens who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago
and didn't migrate into Asia and Europe did not undergo and
could not have undergone these changes to their brain
configuration independently.
Who said they did? DNA spreads. Don't forget that there are
traces of Neanderthal DNA in native African populations.
Actually there isn't. That's what differentiates them from
Europeans and Asians. Up to 5% of European and Asian DNA is from
Neanderthals or Denisovans.
So NEANDERTHALS do STILL EXIST!!
The Creative Explosion is racist ideology. We know full well that
there are no African or Australian aboriginal populations that
can't read and write when taught,
because THEY were intelligent enough to improve themselves along
the way.
That's racist bull.
Bull!! Or are YOU suggesting they have not developed since leaving
Africa?? If so, I would beg to differ!!
Africans and Aboriginals were already fully developed in Africa.
Sorry!! What?? There were Aboriginals in Africa?? Really??
I would have thought there were JUST Africans in Africa, some of whom
LEFT Africa and developed in European Aboriginals, American
Aboriginals, Asian Aboriginals and Australian Aboriginals, etc., etc..
No changes in intelligence of any race took place after they left
Africa.
BULLSHIT!! Else WE (You, Me, everyone) are no more intelligent than
those that left Africa!! Really??
or that they any worse at it than Europeans and Asians, so theyWho's to say that the Europeans weren't intelligent enough to
must have been capable of doing so at least 200,000 years ago
before the migrations out of Africa began. Otherwise the timeline
of those migrations has to be wrong.
improve themselves over the intervening years??
And the converse of that is that Africans and Aboriginals who were
illiterate and numerate
Where are YOU getting these Aboriginals from, Aggy?? Or are you using
the word "Aboriginal" in it Basic sense ..."The Original Land
Occupiers", e.g. The Eskimo, The 'red' Indian, The Aztecs, The Africans, >etc??
until they were discovered by Europeans
You mean "The Europeans" who can out of Africa and developed??
were not able to improve themselves.
Because THEY had no need to .... they had what they needed!
This entire principle
Sorry! What "principle"??
is racist and easily disproven by the fact that Africans and
Aboriginals posses university degrees and PhDs without any
interbreeding with Europeans or Asians.
WHAT THE ....?? Are you, Aggy, really suggesting that the Africans of
today are no better off than the Africans that left Africa
thousands of years ago??
Either everyone possessed the same brain functions when Homo Sapiens
left Africa 200,000 years ago, or the timeline is completely wrong.
Are you, Aggy, saying that every modern day European has the same I.Q.??
How about every Asian?? Bugger it, How about every African??
I personally think the timeline is completely wrong and the migration
out of Africa and towards other parts of Africa didn't take place
until 10,000 years ago.
Oh!! Well, if that's what you think, Prof Aggy!!
How else can you possibly explain the non-existence of either
writing or language anywhere in the world before 10,000 years ago
Because 'they' had no need for it, Aggy. They just used their E.S.P. >instead!!
when even a 3 or 4 year old child can read and write and an 18 month
old can communicate through language?
Well, aren't they the Smarty-pants, then!!
Biologists and archaeologists have got their timelines wrong.
Gee Whiz!! Who to believe .... 'Biologists and archaeologists' or our
Aggy?? Ummmm??
Where are the skeletons of Homo Sapiens which are older than 10,000Gee Whiz!! I'm sure I've seen them on the T.V. ... but, then again, I've
years old anyway? I don't remember there being any.
seen a made-up T.V. show called "Doctor Who" on T.V., too, so maybe
those Archaeology-type T.V. shops ARE made-up, too!!
----
Daniel70
On 3/03/2026 6:13 am, The True Doctor wrote:
<Snip>
There was no such situation. The Time Lords have always been able to
have children and interbreed with humans otherwise what is the point
of Andred and Leela.
Buggered if I know!! To keep The Doctor company for a while, maybe??
The Time Lords are a future human colony on Gillifray
Sorry!! On WHERE! (Yes, Yes, I know ... Pot .... Kettle .... Black!)
as is implied in The Brain of Morbius.So when do Humans gain this Regeneration capability?? If I hang around a
few more years, might I become one of the first to do it?? Or will it
only be new-born babes that will gain this regeneration capability??
----
Daniel70
On 3/03/2026 10:11 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Melissa wrote:Me .... 107'ish .... so not likely, even though both Mum and Dad made it >past 80!!
Verily, in article <xn0pmt70z328enc000@post.eweka.nl>, did
blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
Incidentally, I wonder if any of us here will be around to
celebrate the Centenary of Doctor Who in 2063?
I'm sure the BBC will make a special episode for the
occasion.
It'd be a shame to miss it...
I won't be watching. I don't expect to live that long.
I wouldn't think many of us will be around in 2063...
To those that do make it... well done!
----
Daniel70
Daniel70 wrote:
On 3/03/2026 10:11 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
Me .... 107'ish .... so not likely, even though both Mum
I wouldn't think many of us will be around in 2063...
To those that do make it... well done!
and Dad made it past 80!!
I'd be 98, so theoretically possible... but highly unlikely.
On 3/03/2026 9:38 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 02/03/2026 10:04, Daniel70 wrote:
On 2/03/2026 8:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/03/2026 21:32, The True Melissa wrote:
Dang it. As a prehistory buff, I cannot let this pass.
Verily, in article <10o2232$fvqm$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
A boy from 200,000 years ago would think exactly like us and
be capable of passing their school exams and even obtaining a
PhD.
You went much too far back. If you'd said 30,000 years I would
have
No I shouldn't because that would be racist.
Sorry. Did Racist exist back then, too??
agreed, but 200,000 is *well* before the Creative Explosion.
Our bodies were the same, but our brains weren't quite done.
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo
Sapiens who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and
didn't migrate into Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not
have undergone these changes to their brain configuration
independently. It also implies that no one but a single linage
that evolved 30,000 years ago had the ability to read and write
and even comprehend spoken language which as we all know is pure
bullshit.
Sorry!! Are you suggesting that ONLY one homo- lineage had any
chance of surviving into the NOW??
These abilities have to have been present in all Homo Sapiens
200,000 years ago,
So WHAT??
If the mutations for language and writing skills were not there
already then there is no way they could have evolved 30,000 years ago
and been transferred to the isolated populations of sub-Saharan
Africa and Australia.
Sorry!! There were NO "isolated populations Australia" *UNTIL* they had
come Out of Africa!!
The beneficial mutations regarding intelligence wouldn't have even
been able to be transferred from South-East Asia to Europe or Europe
to South-East Asia. The theory is wrong and it clear that it is
totally wrong.
"The beneficial mutations regarding intelligence" were 'there' BEFORE
they left Africa.
or else the timeline for their migration is wrong and it only
occurred in the past 10,000 years,
WHY??
Because that is when language and writing developed. Why didn't it
develop earlier?
Umm!! What's the saying?? "Necessity is the mother of Invention!!". If
there was no NEED for it, nothing changed!!
which would have allowed for the interbreeding and spread of
these changes to have occurred in Africa
Or "Out of Africa"!!
when the populations were in close proximity.
----
Daniel70
BULLSHIT!! Else WE (You, Me, everyone) are no more intelligent than
those that left Africa!! Really??
The Time Lords are a future human colony on Gillifray
as is implied in The Brain of Morbius.
So when do Humans gain this Regeneration capability?? If I hang around a
few more years, might I become one of the first to do it?? Or will it
only be new-born babes that will gain this regeneration capability??
In article <xn0pmsxc0bi3wgm000@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
So NEANDERTHALS do STILL EXIST!!
... and some are even on Usenet!
Name them!
Verily, in article <10o6hjn$2070j$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 >@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
BULLSHIT!! Else WE (You, Me, everyone) are no more intelligent than
those that left Africa!! Really??
One of the problems with these discussions is that "we left Africa"
happened multiple times. Homo erectus covered most of the Earth before
the later human species had even happened. Later migrants met the >descendants of earlier migrants, and the fossil record reflects all
this, so it does get a little confusing -- particularly since we could
all interbreed.
For those interested, Sleepless Homo (on YouTube) has some great long-
form videos on the history of our species. North 02 (also on YouTube)
has mostly mid-length videos on more specific topics.
----
The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
Verily, in article <10o6ia3$20eti$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 >@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
The Time Lords are a future human colony on GillifraySo when do Humans gain this Regeneration capability?? If I hang around a
as is implied in The Brain of Morbius.
few more years, might I become one of the first to do it?? Or will it
only be new-born babes that will gain this regeneration capability??
That's a darn good question. I hope we don't have to bring the Timeless >Child into this.
Perhaps the other phenotypes come from the so-called junk DNA, if we
learn how to activate it. If we can get all the way to Gallifrey and
invent time travel, we can probably do near-magic with DNA as well.
----
The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
The Binky(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of child sexual molestation) Doctor wrote:
In article <xn0pmsxc0bi3wgm000@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
Daniel70 wrote:
So NEANDERTHALS do STILL EXIST!!
... and some are even on Usenet!
Name them!
Ever ponder why most of the fine folks
in here choose to ignore you, Binky(Word used by paedophiles
to indicate their joy of child sexual molestation)?
Verily, in article <10o2crc$jvu7$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo Sapiens
who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and didn't migrate into
Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not have undergone these
changes to their brain configuration independently.
Who said they did? DNA spreads. Don't forget that there are traces of Neanderthal DNA in native African populations.
In article <10o4n4v$1dm4i$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
On 02/03/2026 10:12, Daniel70 wrote:
On 2/03/2026 10:48 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/03/2026 23:10, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2crc$jvu7$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo Sapiens >>>>>> who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and didn't migrate into >>>>>> Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not have undergone these >>>>>> changes to their brain configuration independently.
Who said they did? DNA spreads. Don't forget that there are traces of >>>>> Neanderthal DNA in native African populations.
Actually there isn't. That's what differentiates them from Europeans
and Asians. Up to 5% of European and Asian DNA is from Neanderthals or >>>> Denisovans.
So NEANDERTHALS do STILL EXIST!!
The Creative Explosion is racist ideology. We know full well that
there are no African or Australian aboriginal populations that can't
read and write when taught,
because THEY were intelligent enough to improve themselves along the way. >>>
That's racist bull. Africans and Aboriginals were already fully
developed in Africa. No changes in intelligence of any race took place
after they left Africa.
or that they any worse at it than Europeans and Asians, so they mustWho's to say that the Europeans weren't intelligent enough to improve
have been capable of doing so at least 200,000 years ago before the
migrations out of Africa began. Otherwise the timeline of those
migrations has to be wrong.
themselves over the intervening years??
And the converse of that is that Africans and Aboriginals who were
illiterate and numerate until they were discovered by Europeans were not
able to improve themselves. This entire principle is racist and easily
disproven by the fact that Africans and Aboriginals posses university
degrees and PhDs without any interbreeding with Europeans or Asians.
Either everyone possessed the same brain functions when Homo Sapiens
left Africa 200,000 years ago, or the timeline is completely wrong. I
personally think the timeline is completely wrong and the migration out
of Africa and towards other parts of Africa didn't take place until
10,000 years ago. How else can you possibly explain the non-existence of
either writing or language anywhere in the world before 10,000 years ago
when even a 3 or 4 year old child can read and write and an 18 month old
can communicate through language? Biologists and archaeologists have got
their timelines wrong. Where are the skeletons of Homo Sapiens which are
older than 10,000 years old anyway? I don't remember there being any.
Such is Darwinian Evolution.
Darwin vs science.
I hope we don't have to bring the Timeless Child into
this.
The Binky(Word used to indicate Binky's joy of child sexual molestation) >
On 3/03/2026 6:07 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 02/03/2026 10:12, Daniel70 wrote:
On 2/03/2026 10:48 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/03/2026 23:10, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2crc$jvu7$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo
Sapiens who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago
-aand didn't migrate into Asia and Europe did not undergo and
-acould not have undergone these changes to their brain
configuration independently.
Who said they did? DNA spreads. Don't forget that there are traces
of Neanderthal DNA in native African populations.
Actually there isn't. That's what differentiates them from Europeans
and Asians. Up to 5% of European and Asian DNA is from
-aNeanderthals or Denisovans.
So NEANDERTHALS do STILL EXIST!!
The Creative Explosion is racist ideology. We know full well that
there are no African or Australian aboriginal populations that
can't read and write when taught,
because THEY were intelligent enough to improve themselves along the
way.
That's racist bullshit.
Bullshit!! Or are YOU suggesting they have not developed since leaving Africa?? If so, I would beg to differ!!
Africans and Aboriginals were already fully developed in Africa.
Sorry!! What?? There were Aboriginals in Africa?? Really??
I would have thought there were JUST Africans in Africa, some of whom
LEFT Africa and developed in European Aboriginals, American
Aboriginals, Asian Aboriginals and Australian Aboriginals, etc., etc..
No changes in intelligence of any race took place after they left Africa.
BULLSHIT!! Else WE (You, Me, everyone) are no more intelligent than
those that left Africa!! Really??
or that they any worse at it than Europeans and Asians, so they mustWho's to say that the Europeans weren't intelligent enough to improve
have been capable of doing so at least 200,000 years ago before the
migrations out of Africa began. Otherwise the timeline
of those migrations has to be wrong.
themselves over the intervening years??
And the converse of that is that Africans and Aboriginals who were
illiterate and numerate
Where are YOU getting these Aboriginals from, Aggy?? Or are you using
the word "Aboriginal" in it Basic sense ..."The Original Land
Occupiers", e.g. The Eskimo, The 'red' Indian, The Aztecs, The Africans, etc??
until they were discovered by Europeans
You mean "The Europeans" who can out of Africa and developed??
were not able to improve themselves.
Because THEY had no need to .... they had what they needed!
This entire principle
Sorry! What "principle"??
is racist and easily disproven by the fact that Africans and
Aboriginals posses university degrees and PhDs without any
interbreeding with Europeans or Asians.
WHAT THE ....?? Are you, Aggy, really suggesting that the Africans of
today are no better off than the Africans that left Africa
thousands of years ago??
Either everyone possessed the same brain functions when Homo Sapiens
-aleft Africa 200,000 years ago, or the timeline is completely wrong.
Are you, Aggy, saying that every modern day European has the same I.Q.??
How about every Asian?? Bugger it, How about every African??
I personally think the timeline is completely wrong and the migration
out of Africa and towards other parts of Africa didn't take place
until 10,000 years ago.
Oh!! Well, if that's what you think, Prof Aggy!!
How else can you possibly explain the non-existence of either
writing or language anywhere in the world before 10,000 years ago
Because 'they' had no need for it, Aggy. They just used their E.S.P. instead!!
when even a 3 or 4 year old child can read and write and an 18 month
old can communicate through language?
Well, aren't they the Smarty-pants, then!!
Biologists and archaeologists have got their timelines wrong.
Gee Whiz!! Who to believe .... 'Biologists and archaeologists' or our
Aggy?? Ummmm??
Where are the skeletons of Homo Sapiens which are older than 10,000Gee Whiz!! I'm sure I've seen them on the T.V. ... but, then again, I've
years old anyway? I don't remember there being any.
seen a made-up T.V. show called "Doctor Who" on T.V., too, so maybe
those Archaeology-type T.V. shops ARE made-up, too!!
Verily, in article <10o6hjn$2070j$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
BULLSHIT!! Else WE (You, Me, everyone) are no more intelligent than
those that left Africa!! Really??
One of the problems with these discussions is that "we left Africa"
happened multiple times. Homo erectus covered most of the Earth before
the later human species had even happened. Later migrants met the
descendants of earlier migrants, and the fossil record reflects all
this, so it does get a little confusing -- particularly since we could
all interbreed.
For those interested, Sleepless Homo (on YouTube) has some great long-
form videos on the history of our species. North 02 (also on YouTube)
has mostly mid-length videos on more specific topics.
The Doctor wrote:
Darwin vs science.
I think you've messed up the analogy... or you misunderstand
evolutionary theory.
Charles Darwin WAS a scientist! His work is a foundational
part of modern biology.
On 3/03/2026 9:38 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 02/03/2026 10:04, Daniel70 wrote:
On 2/03/2026 8:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/03/2026 21:32, The True Melissa wrote:
Dang it. As a prehistory buff, I cannot let this pass.
Verily, in article <10o2232$fvqm$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
A boy from 200,000 years ago would think exactly like us and
be capable of passing their school exams and even obtaining a
PhD.
You went much too far back. If you'd said 30,000 years I would have
No I shouldn't because that would be racist.
Sorry. Did Racist exist back then, too??
agreed, but 200,000 is *well* before the Creative Explosion.
Our bodies were the same, but our brains weren't quite done.
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo
Sapiens who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and
didn't migrate into Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not
have undergone these changes to their brain configuration
independently. It also implies that no one but a single linage
that evolved 30,000 years ago had the ability to read and write
and even comprehend spoken language which as we all know is pure
bullshit.
Sorry!! Are you suggesting that ONLY one homo- lineage had any
chance of surviving into the NOW??
These abilities have to have been present in all Homo Sapiens
200,000 years ago,
So WHAT??
If the mutations for language and writing skills were not there
already then there is no way they could have evolved 30,000 years ago
and been transferred to the isolated populations of sub-Saharan
Africa and Australia.
Sorry!! There were NO "isolated populations Australia" *UNTIL* they had
come Out of Africa!!
The beneficial mutations regarding intelligence wouldn't have even
been able to be transferred from South-East Asia to Europe or Europe
to South-East Asia. The theory is wrong and it clear that it is
totally wrong.
In article <10o6l31$21fhh$1@dont-email.me>,
Can scientific genetics be added to the argument?
On 3/03/2026 6:13 am, The True Doctor wrote:
<Snip>
There was no such situation. The Time Lords have always been able to
have children and interbreed with humans otherwise what is the point
of Andred and Leela.
Buggered if I know!! To keep The Doctor company for a while, maybe??
The Time Lords are a future human colony on Gillifray
Sorry!! On WHERE! (Yes, Yes, I know ... Pot .... Kettle .... Black!)
as is implied in The Brain of Morbius.So when do Humans gain this Regeneration capability?? If I hang around a
few more years, might I become one of the first to do it?? Or will it
only be new-born babes that will gain this regeneration capability??
See, I was right all the long!
The foundation of modern biology. Darwin merely regurgitated a
theory that was already known to Plato and to the Hindu's of
India. They'd all figured it out by at least 2500 years ago,
which species were more evolved and others and which were less
evolved, and if you were good you got reincarnated as a more
evolved life form, and if you were bad you got reincarnated as
a less evolved one.
Verily, in article <10o6ia3$20eti$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
The Time Lords are a future human colony on GillifraySo when do Humans gain this Regeneration capability?? If I hang around a
as is implied in The Brain of Morbius.
few more years, might I become one of the first to do it?? Or will it
only be new-born babes that will gain this regeneration capability??
That's a darn good question. I hope we don't have to bring the Timeless
Child into this.
Perhaps the other phenotypes come from the so-called junk DNA, if we
learn how to activate it. If we can get all the way to Gallifrey and
invent time travel, we can probably do near-magic with DNA as well.
The True Doctor wrote:
See, I was right all the long!
If we all agree that you are, can you then go and watch
"The Seeds of Doom" and do your review a few days early?
On 03/03/2026 22:16, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
See, I was right all the long!
If we all agree that you are, can you then go and watch
"The Seeds of Doom" and do your review a few days early?
The Seeds of Doom is for Friday and it's 6 episodes long so it
might take a while.
The True Doctor wrote:
The foundation of modern biology. Darwin merely regurgitated a
theory that was already known to Plato and to the Hindu's of
India. They'd all figured it out by at least 2500 years ago,
which species were more evolved and others and which were less
evolved, and if you were good you got reincarnated as a more
evolved life form, and if you were bad you got reincarnated as
a less evolved one.
I like the idea of reincarnation... I don't believe in it
though. But if there is such thing as reincarnation, why does
Dave Yadallee keep coming back as the same thing?!
:)
See, without out the Timeless Child monster trying to
impose degenerate fab fiction as canon we can have proper
discussion about Doctor Who again.
The True Doctor wrote:
See, without out the Timeless Child monster trying to
impose degenerate fab fiction as canon we can have proper
discussion about Doctor Who again.
We could always have had proper Doctor Who discussion here...
generally the only people here that mention "The Timeless Child"
are Dave and you... you could have ignored it and done your
"watch party" at any stage... we'd have joined in then like we
did when Melissa did hers. (Well... a couple of us joined in.)
If people want to revisit the classic era of the show here there
will be no complaints from me...
On 01/03/2026 23:10, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2crc$jvu7$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo Sapiens
who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and didn't migrate into
Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not have undergone these
changes to their brain configuration independently.
Who said they did? DNA spreads. Don't forget that there are traces of
Neanderthal DNA in native African populations.
Here we ago, >https://dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/dna-study-reveals-when-humans-first-learned-to-speak/
Everything I said above is proven by the latest research.
"Despite this long separation, every known human community today shares
the same fundamental language capacity. All societies use structured
systems that combine grammar with meaning. No documented human
population lacks the cognitive framework required for complex speech.
That universality forms the core of the researchersrCO reasoning.
"If early branches separated 135,000 years ago and all descendant >populations possess this ability, then the underlying biological
framework must predate the split. Otherwise, at least one lineage would >display a fundamentally different communicative system. The study
therefore identifies 135,000 years ago as a minimum age for the
emergence of language readiness in our species."
Problem solved!
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 03/03/2026 05:06, The Doctor wrote:
In article <10o4n4v$1dm4i$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
On 02/03/2026 10:12, Daniel70 wrote:
On 2/03/2026 10:48 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/03/2026 23:10, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2crc$jvu7$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo Sapiens >>>>>>> who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and didn't migrate into >>>>>>> Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not have undergone these >>>>>>> changes to their brain configuration independently.
Who said they did? DNA spreads. Don't forget that there are traces of >>>>>> Neanderthal DNA in native African populations.
Actually there isn't. That's what differentiates them from Europeans >>>>> and Asians. Up to 5% of European and Asian DNA is from Neanderthals or >>>>> Denisovans.
So NEANDERTHALS do STILL EXIST!!
The Creative Explosion is racist ideology. We know full well that
there are no African or Australian aboriginal populations that can't >>>>> read and write when taught,
because THEY were intelligent enough to improve themselves along the way. >>>>
That's racist bull. Africans and Aboriginals were already fully
developed in Africa. No changes in intelligence of any race took place
after they left Africa.
or that they any worse at it than Europeans and Asians, so they must >>>>> have been capable of doing so at least 200,000 years ago before theWho's to say that the Europeans weren't intelligent enough to improve
migrations out of Africa began. Otherwise the timeline of those
migrations has to be wrong.
themselves over the intervening years??
And the converse of that is that Africans and Aboriginals who were
illiterate and numerate until they were discovered by Europeans were not >>> able to improve themselves. This entire principle is racist and easily
disproven by the fact that Africans and Aboriginals posses university
degrees and PhDs without any interbreeding with Europeans or Asians.
Either everyone possessed the same brain functions when Homo Sapiens
left Africa 200,000 years ago, or the timeline is completely wrong. I
personally think the timeline is completely wrong and the migration out
of Africa and towards other parts of Africa didn't take place until
10,000 years ago. How else can you possibly explain the non-existence of >>> either writing or language anywhere in the world before 10,000 years ago >>> when even a 3 or 4 year old child can read and write and an 18 month old >>> can communicate through language? Biologists and archaeologists have got >>> their timelines wrong. Where are the skeletons of Homo Sapiens which are >>> older than 10,000 years old anyway? I don't remember there being any.
Such is Darwinian Evolution.
Who needs a PhD when everything I said above has just been proven by the >latest research...
https://dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/dna-study-reveals-when-humans-first-learned-to-speak/
"Despite this long separation, every known human community today shares
the same fundamental language capacity. All societies use structured
systems that combine grammar with meaning. No documented human
population lacks the cognitive framework required for complex speech.
That universality forms the core of the researchersrCO reasoning.
"If early branches separated 135,000 years ago and all descendant >populations possess this ability, then the underlying biological
framework must predate the split. Otherwise, at least one lineage would >display a fundamentally different communicative system. The study
therefore identifies 135,000 years ago as a minimum age for the
emergence of language readiness in our species."
...
"Earlier proposals often placed the origin of language closer to 50,000 >years ago, during a period sometimes described as a cultural expansion.
By tying the timeline to the earliest documented genetic divergence, the
new research shifts the discussion deeper into African prehistory. The >estimate does not depend on isolated artifacts but on shared ancestry.
"By using patterns of divergence in DNA as a reference point, the >researchers establish a firm lower boundary for language emergence. The >study concludes that the biological framework required for structured
speech was already present in Homo sapiens at least 135,000 years ago in >Africa, before the earliest major population divergence identified in
the genomic record."
Problem solved!
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
The Doctor wrote:
Darwin vs science.
I think you've messed up the analogy... or you misunderstand
evolutionary theory.
Charles Darwin WAS a scientist! His work is a foundational
part of modern biology.
The True Melissa wrote:
I hope we don't have to bring the Timeless Child into
this.
Why not? It comes into every other discussion here doesn't
it? ;-)
On 03/03/2026 11:44, Daniel70 wrote:
On 3/03/2026 6:07 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 02/03/2026 10:12, Daniel70 wrote:
On 2/03/2026 10:48 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/03/2026 23:10, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2crc$jvu7$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo
Sapiens who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago
-aand didn't migrate into Asia and Europe did not undergo and
-acould not have undergone these changes to their brain
configuration independently.
Who said they did? DNA spreads. Don't forget that there are traces >>>>>> of Neanderthal DNA in native African populations.
Actually there isn't. That's what differentiates them from Europeans >>>>> and Asians. Up to 5% of European and Asian DNA is from
-aNeanderthals or Denisovans.
So NEANDERTHALS do STILL EXIST!!
The Creative Explosion is racist ideology. We know full well that
there are no African or Australian aboriginal populations that
can't read and write when taught,
because THEY were intelligent enough to improve themselves along the
way.
That's racist bullshit.
Bullshit!! Or are YOU suggesting they have not developed since leaving
Africa?? If so, I would beg to differ!!
Then you are being racist. The latest scientific study into the matter
says exactly the same thing I said.
https://dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/dna-study-reveals-when-humans-first-learned-to-speak/
"Despite this long separation, every known human community today shares
the same fundamental language capacity. All societies use structured
systems that combine grammar with meaning. No documented human
population lacks the cognitive framework required for complex speech.
That universality forms the core of the researchersrCO reasoning.
"If early branches separated 135,000 years ago and all descendant >populations possess this ability, then the underlying biological
framework must predate the split. Otherwise, at least one lineage would >display a fundamentally different communicative system. The study
therefore identifies 135,000 years ago as a minimum age for the
emergence of language readiness in our species."
...
"Earlier proposals often placed the origin of language closer to 50,000 >years ago, during a period sometimes described as a cultural expansion.
By tying the timeline to the earliest documented genetic divergence, the
new research shifts the discussion deeper into African prehistory. The >estimate does not depend on isolated artifacts but on shared ancestry.
"By using patterns of divergence in DNA as a reference point, the >researchers establish a firm lower boundary for language emergence. The >study concludes that the biological framework required for structured
speech was already present in Homo sapiens at least 135,000 years ago in >Africa, before the earliest major population divergence identified in
the genomic record."
Problem solved!
Africans and Aboriginals were already fully developed in Africa.
Sorry!! What?? There were Aboriginals in Africa?? Really??
The DNA linage that became Aboriginals in Australia came from Africa, or
do you suppose that it came from Mars?
I would have thought there were JUST Africans in Africa, some of whom
LEFT Africa and developed in European Aboriginals, American
Aboriginals, Asian Aboriginals and Australian Aboriginals, etc., etc..
No changes in intelligence of any race took place after they left Africa. >>BULLSHIT!! Else WE (You, Me, everyone) are no more intelligent than
those that left Africa!! Really??
That's what the latest science says, which uses exactly the same
methodology that I used.
https://dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/dna-study-reveals-when-humans-first-learned-to-speak/
Are you going to disagree with everyone?
or that they any worse at it than Europeans and Asians, so they must >>>>> have been capable of doing so at least 200,000 years ago before the >>>>> migrations out of Africa began. Otherwise the timelineWho's to say that the Europeans weren't intelligent enough to improve >>>> themselves over the intervening years??
of those migrations has to be wrong.
And the converse of that is that Africans and Aboriginals who were
illiterate and numerate
Where are YOU getting these Aboriginals from, Aggy?? Or are you using
the word "Aboriginal" in it Basic sense ..."The Original Land
Occupiers", e.g. The Eskimo, The 'red' Indian, The Aztecs, The Africans,
etc??
The original land occupiers were Denisovans, Neanderthals, and Homo
Erctus and Home Heidelbegensis, etc. Aboriginals to the majority of
people means the black people of Australia just like Red Indians means
the brownish people of North America.
until they were discovered by Europeans
You mean "The Europeans" who can out of Africa and developed??
were not able to improve themselves.
Because THEY had no need to .... they had what they needed!
This entire principle
Sorry! What "principle"??
See above. Every modern scientist agrees with me.
is racist and easily disproven by the fact that Africans and
Aboriginals posses university degrees and PhDs without any
interbreeding with Europeans or Asians.
WHAT THE ....?? Are you, Aggy, really suggesting that the Africans of
today are no better off than the Africans that left Africa
thousands of years ago??
Not just me but EVERY modern scientist.
Either everyone possessed the same brain functions when Homo Sapiens
-aleft Africa 200,000 years ago, or the timeline is completely wrong.
Are you, Aggy, saying that every modern day European has the same I.Q.??
How about every Asian?? Bugger it, How about every African??
I personally think the timeline is completely wrong and the migration
out of Africa and towards other parts of Africa didn't take place
until 10,000 years ago.
Oh!! Well, if that's what you think, Prof Aggy!!
It's not just what I think it's what everyone who has studied the
subject now thinks, and I didn't need a PhD in Anthropology to figureit
out by basic reasoning. I are obviously an intellectually challenged
genetic throwback.
https://dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/dna-study-reveals-when-humans-first-learned-to-speak/
How else can you possibly explain the non-existence of either
writing or language anywhere in the world before 10,000 years ago
Because 'they' had no need for it, Aggy. They just used their E.S.P.
instead!!
when even a 3 or 4 year old child can read and write and an 18 month
old can communicate through language?
Well, aren't they the Smarty-pants, then!!
Biologists and archaeologists have got their timelines wrong.
Gee Whiz!! Who to believe .... 'Biologists and archaeologists' or our
Aggy?? Ummmm??
Where are the skeletons of Homo Sapiens which are older than 10,000Gee Whiz!! I'm sure I've seen them on the T.V. ... but, then again, I've
years old anyway? I don't remember there being any.
seen a made-up T.V. show called "Doctor Who" on T.V., too, so maybe
those Archaeology-type T.V. shops ARE made-up, too!!
Where are the skeletons? I've not seen a single one of them. All I hear >about is beads and tools. Where are the people that used them?
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 03/03/2026 15:04, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o6hjn$2070j$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
BULLSHIT!! Else WE (You, Me, everyone) are no more intelligent than
those that left Africa!! Really??
One of the problems with these discussions is that "we left Africa"
happened multiple times. Homo erectus covered most of the Earth before
the later human species had even happened. Later migrants met the
descendants of earlier migrants, and the fossil record reflects all
this, so it does get a little confusing -- particularly since we could
all interbreed.
For those interested, Sleepless Homo (on YouTube) has some great long-
form videos on the history of our species. North 02 (also on YouTube)
has mostly mid-length videos on more specific topics.
Save your time and read this study instead. >https://dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/dna-study-reveals-when-humans-first-learned-to-speak/
"Despite this long separation, every known human community today shares
the same fundamental language capacity. All societies use structured
systems that combine grammar with meaning. No documented human
population lacks the cognitive framework required for complex speech.
That universality forms the core of the researchersrCO reasoning.
"If early branches separated 135,000 years ago and all descendant >populations possess this ability, then the underlying biological
framework must predate the split. Otherwise, at least one lineage would >display a fundamentally different communicative system. The study
therefore identifies 135,000 years ago as a minimum age for the
emergence of language readiness in our species."
...
"Earlier proposals often placed the origin of language closer to 50,000 >years ago, during a period sometimes described as a cultural expansion.
By tying the timeline to the earliest documented genetic divergence, the
new research shifts the discussion deeper into African prehistory. The >estimate does not depend on isolated artifacts but on shared ancestry.
"By using patterns of divergence in DNA as a reference point, the >researchers establish a firm lower boundary for language emergence. The >study concludes that the biological framework required for structured
speech was already present in Homo sapiens at least 135,000 years ago in >Africa, before the earliest major population divergence identified in
the genomic record."
See, I was right all the long!
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 03/03/2026 21:45, Blueshirt wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
Darwin vs science.
I think you've messed up the analogy... or you misunderstand
evolutionary theory.
Charles Darwin WAS a scientist! His work is a foundational
part of modern biology.
The foundation of modern biology. Darwin merely regurgitated a theory
that was already known to Plato and to the Hindu's of India. They'd all >figured it out by at least 2500 years ago, which species were more
evolved and others and which were less evolved, and if you were good you
got reincarnated as a more evolved life form, and if you were bad you
got reincarnated as a less evolved one. Not only is that the basis of
the Theory of Evolutions, but it's also the basis of the theory of
Natural Selection, which is what Darwin later proved after it was first >postulated by Timaeus.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 03/03/2026 12:44, Daniel70 wrote:
On 3/03/2026 9:38 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 02/03/2026 10:04, Daniel70 wrote:
On 2/03/2026 8:59 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/03/2026 21:32, The True Melissa wrote:
Dang it. As a prehistory buff, I cannot let this pass.No I shouldn't because that would be racist.
Verily, in article <10o2232$fvqm$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
A boy from 200,000 years ago would think exactly like us and
be capable of passing their school exams and even obtaining a
PhD.
You went much too far back. If you'd said 30,000 years I would have >>>>>
Sorry. Did Racist exist back then, too??
agreed, but 200,000 is *well* before the Creative Explosion.
Our bodies were the same, but our brains weren't quite done.
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo
Sapiens who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and
didn't migrate into Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not
have undergone these changes to their brain configuration
independently. It also implies that no one but a single linage
that evolved 30,000 years ago had the ability to read and write
and even comprehend spoken language which as we all know is pure
bulls*t.
Sorry!! Are you suggesting that ONLY one homo- lineage had any
chance of surviving into the NOW??
These abilities have to have been present in all Homo Sapiens
200,000 years ago,
So WHAT??
If the mutations for language and writing skills were not there
already then there is no way they could have evolved 30,000 years ago
and been transferred to the isolated populations of sub-Saharan
Africa and Australia.
Sorry!! There were NO "isolated populations Australia" *UNTIL* they had
come Out of Africa!!
The beneficial mutations regarding intelligence wouldn't have even
been able to be transferred from South-East Asia to Europe or Europe
to South-East Asia. The theory is wrong and it clear that it is
totally wrong.
The latest scientific research based on DNA says EXACTLY what I said
above. Read it and show some intelligence!
https://dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/dna-study-reveals-when-humans-first-learned-to-speak/
"Despite this long separation, every known human community today shares
the same fundamental language capacity. All societies use structured
systems that combine grammar with meaning. No documented human
population lacks the cognitive framework required for complex speech.
That universality forms the core of the researchersrCO reasoning.
"If early branches separated 135,000 years ago and all descendant >populations possess this ability, then the underlying biological
framework must predate the split. Otherwise, at least one lineage would >display a fundamentally different communicative system. The study
therefore identifies 135,000 years ago as a minimum age for the
emergence of language readiness in our species."
...
"Earlier proposals often placed the origin of language closer to 50,000 >years ago, during a period sometimes described as a cultural expansion.
By tying the timeline to the earliest documented genetic divergence, the
new research shifts the discussion deeper into African prehistory. The >estimate does not depend on isolated artifacts but on shared ancestry.
"By using patterns of divergence in DNA as a reference point, the >researchers establish a firm lower boundary for language emergence. The >study concludes that the biological framework required for structured
speech was already present in Homo sapiens at least 135,000 years ago in >Africa, before the earliest major population divergence identified in
the genomic record."
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 03/03/2026 14:31, The Doctor wrote:
In article <10o6l31$21fhh$1@dont-email.me>,
Can scientific genetics be added to the argument?
It just has, but I got there first.
https://dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/dna-study-reveals-when-humans-first-learned-to-speak/
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 03/03/2026 11:56, Daniel70 wrote:
On 3/03/2026 6:13 am, The True Doctor wrote:
<Snip>
There was no such situation. The Time Lords have always been able to
have children and interbreed with humans otherwise what is the point
of Andred and Leela.
Buggered if I know!! To keep The Doctor company for a while, maybe??
The Time Lords are a future human colony on Gillifray
Sorry!! On WHERE! (Yes, Yes, I know ... Pot .... Kettle .... Black!)
as is implied in The Brain of Morbius.So when do Humans gain this Regeneration capability?? If I hang around a
few more years, might I become one of the first to do it?? Or will it
only be new-born babes that will gain this regeneration capability??
The Doctor said it was many hundreds of years after Sarah Jane's time,
maybe in about 1000 years time, maybe 2000. The Doctor was already in
his 700s, so 2000 yeas in the future would be closer to when the episode
was set since Morbius was put to death just before the Doctor was born.
BORN not loomed or adopted. BORN to a human mother and Time Lord father
who he went on longs walks with over the Gallifreyan grass.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
The True Doctor wrote:
See, I was right all the long!
If we all agree that you are, can you then go and watch
"The Seeds of Doom" and do your review a few days early?
The True Doctor wrote:
The foundation of modern biology. Darwin merely regurgitated a
theory that was already known to Plato and to the Hindu's of
India. They'd all figured it out by at least 2500 years ago,
which species were more evolved and others and which were less
evolved, and if you were good you got reincarnated as a more
evolved life form, and if you were bad you got reincarnated as
a less evolved one.
I like the idea of reincarnation... I don't believe in it
though. But if there is such thing as reincarnation, why does
Dave Yadallee keep coming back as the same thing?!
:)
On 03/03/2026 15:07, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o6ia3$20eti$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
The Time Lords are a future human colony on GillifraySo when do Humans gain this Regeneration capability?? If I hang around a >>> few more years, might I become one of the first to do it?? Or will it
as is implied in The Brain of Morbius.
only be new-born babes that will gain this regeneration capability??
That's a darn good question. I hope we don't have to bring the Timeless
Child into this.
Regeneration was invented after the time of Omega and Rassilon since >Rassilon was looking for the secret of immortality which no Time Lord of
his time possessed. First it was a mechanical process which the Time
Lords shared with the Minyans and then it became fully biological.
Perhaps the other phenotypes come from the so-called junk DNA, if we
learn how to activate it. If we can get all the way to Gallifrey and
invent time travel, we can probably do near-magic with DNA as well.
You would need to create an Eye of Harmony in order to power both time >travel and regeneration as we say in The Three Doctors, The Deadly
Assassin, and the TVM.
See, without out the Timeless Child monster trying to impose degenerate
fab fiction as canon we can have proper discussion about Doctor Who again.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 03/03/2026 22:16, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
See, I was right all the long!
If we all agree that you are, can you then go and watch
"The Seeds of Doom" and do your review a few days early?
The Seeds of Doom is for Friday and it's 6 episodes long so it might
take a while.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
The True Doctor wrote:
On 03/03/2026 22:16, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
See, I was right all the long!
If we all agree that you are, can you then go and watch
"The Seeds of Doom" and do your review a few days early?
The Seeds of Doom is for Friday and it's 6 episodes long so it
might take a while.
I will make a start tomorrow so. Maybe I can manage two episodes
per evening... I'll be ready to chime in with my thoughts at the
weekend then.
On 03/03/2026 22:19, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
The foundation of modern biology. Darwin merely regurgitated a
theory that was already known to Plato and to the Hindu's of
India. They'd all figured it out by at least 2500 years ago,
which species were more evolved and others and which were less
evolved, and if you were good you got reincarnated as a more
evolved life form, and if you were bad you got reincarnated as
a less evolved one.
I like the idea of reincarnation... I don't believe in it
though. But if there is such thing as reincarnation, why does
Dave Yadallee keep coming back as the same thing?!
:)
How do you know what animal he was before and what form he will come
back in next? Is his current form an improvement or regression over his
last form?
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
The True Doctor wrote:
See, without out the Timeless Child monster trying to
impose degenerate fab fiction as canon we can have proper
discussion about Doctor Who again.
We could always have had proper Doctor Who discussion here...
generally the only people here that mention "The Timeless Child"
are Dave and you... you could have ignored it and done your
"watch party" at any stage... we'd have joined in then like we
did when Melissa did hers. (Well... a couple of us joined in.)
If people want to revisit the classic era of the show here there
will be no complaints from me...
On 03/03/2026 22:36, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
See, without out the Timeless Child monster trying to
impose degenerate fab fiction as canon we can have proper
discussion about Doctor Who again.
We could always have had proper Doctor Who discussion here...
generally the only people here that mention "The Timeless Child"
are Dave and you... you could have ignored it and done your
The sick, disgusting, pervert, Russell T Davies wouldn't let us ignore
it. He quadrupled down on it and made it part of every single episode
while he killed off the entire show.
This genetic throwback, just like the imbecile Chibnall before him
didn't understand that Doctor Who was about asking the question about
who the Doctor is, not answering it. Answering the question is up to the >fans alone, each coming up with their one personal theory. If question
is ever answered, especially in the sick and mentally ill way Chibnall
came up with by turning the Doctor into a monster from another
dimension, then people will stop watching and stop discussing it since >there's nothing left to learn or talk about. These people are complete >clueless morons that don't know how to write. AI will soon take over
from them and then everyone can make Doctor Who the way they want it to be.
"watch party" at any stage... we'd have joined in then like we
did when Melissa did hers. (Well... a couple of us joined in.)
If people want to revisit the classic era of the show here there
will be no complaints from me...
The show ended with the TVM. The show is dead Jim, dead Jim, dead!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tv/article-15608243/Billie-Pipers-Doctor-future-revealed-poisoned-chalice.html
"According to reports bosses are working hard to find a new Doctor due
to them being committed to a 2026 Christmas special, but filming is yet
to commence. Piper's involvement in the festive episode and the show's
long term future remains unclear"
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
In article <10o7nbc$2emcd$2@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
On 03/03/2026 22:19, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
The foundation of modern biology. Darwin merely regurgitated a
theory that was already known to Plato and to the Hindu's of
India. They'd all figured it out by at least 2500 years ago,
which species were more evolved and others and which were less
evolved, and if you were good you got reincarnated as a more
evolved life form, and if you were bad you got reincarnated as
a less evolved one.
I like the idea of reincarnation... I don't believe in it
though. But if there is such thing as reincarnation, why does
Dave Yadallee keep coming back as the same thing?!
:)
How do you know what animal he was before and what form he will come
back in next? Is his current form an improvement or regression over his
last form?
You are born once and you die once.
On 03/03/2026 23:09, The Doctor wrote:
In article <10o7nbc$2emcd$2@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
On 03/03/2026 22:19, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
The foundation of modern biology. Darwin merely regurgitated a
theory that was already known to Plato and to the Hindu's of
India. They'd all figured it out by at least 2500 years ago,
which species were more evolved and others and which were less
evolved, and if you were good you got reincarnated as a more
evolved life form, and if you were bad you got reincarnated as
a less evolved one.
I like the idea of reincarnation... I don't believe in it
though. But if there is such thing as reincarnation, why does
Dave Yadallee keep coming back as the same thing?!
:)
How do you know what animal he was before and what form he will come
back in next? Is his current form an improvement or regression over his
last form?
You are born once and you die once.
I like the idea of reincarnation. You only live twice and Ian Fleming
would say, or nine times if you're a cat.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
Verily, in article <10o6hjn$2070j$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47 @nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
BULLSHIT!! Else WE (You, Me, everyone) are no more intelligent
than those that left Africa!! Really??
One of the problems with these discussions is that "we left Africa"
happened multiple times. Homo erectus covered most of the Earth
before the later human species had even happened.
Later migrants met the descendants of earlier migrants, and the
fossil record reflects all this, so it does get a little confusing -- particularly since we could all interbreed.
For those interested, Sleepless Homo (on YouTube) has some great
long- form videos on the history of our species. North 02 (also on
YouTube) has mostly mid-length videos on more specific topics.
The True Doctor wrote:
The foundation of modern biology. Darwin merely regurgitated a
theory that was already known to Plato and to the Hindu's of India.
They'd all figured it out by at least 2500 years ago, which species
were more evolved and others and which were less evolved, and if
you were good you got reincarnated as a more evolved life form, and
if you were bad you got reincarnated as a less evolved one.
I like the idea of reincarnation... I don't believe in it though.
But if there is such thing as reincarnation, why does Dave Yadallee
keep coming back as the same thing?!
:)--
On 03/03/2026 23:09, The Doctor wrote:
In article <10o7nbc$2emcd$2@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor-a <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
On 03/03/2026 22:19, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
The foundation of modern biology. Darwin merely regurgitated a
theory that was already known to Plato and to the Hindu's of
India. They'd all figured it out by at least 2500 years ago,
which species were more evolved and others and which were less
evolved, and if you were good you got reincarnated as a more
evolved life form, and if you were bad you got reincarnated as
a less evolved one.
I like the idea of reincarnation... I don't believe in it
though. But if there is such thing as reincarnation, why does
Dave Yadallee keep coming back as the same thing?!
:)
How do you know what animal he was before and what form he will come
back in next? Is his current form an improvement or regression over his
last form?
You are born once and you die once.
I like the idea of reincarnation. You only live twice and Ian Fleming
would say, or nine times if you're a cat.
In article <10o81vd$2hs4a$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
I like the idea of reincarnation. You only live twice and Ian
Fleming would say, or nine times if you're a cat.
I go with the Holy Bible.
On 03/03/2026 15:04, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o6hjn$2070j$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
BULLSHIT!! Else WE (You, Me, everyone) are no more intelligent than
those that left Africa!! Really??
One of the problems with these discussions is that "we left Africa"
happened multiple times. Homo erectus covered most of the Earth before
the later human species had even happened. Later migrants met the
descendants of earlier migrants, and the fossil record reflects all
this, so it does get a little confusing -- particularly since we could
all interbreed.
For those interested, Sleepless Homo (on YouTube) has some great long-
form videos on the history of our species. North 02 (also on YouTube)
has mostly mid-length videos on more specific topics.
Save your time and read this study instead. https://dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/dna-study-reveals-when-humans-first-learned-to-speak/
"Despite this long separation, every known human community today shares
the same fundamental language capacity. All societies use structured
systems that combine grammar with meaning. No documented human
population lacks the cognitive framework required for complex speech.
That universality forms the core of the researchersrCO reasoning.
"If early branches separated 135,000 years ago and all descendant populations possess this ability, then the underlying biological
framework must predate the split. Otherwise, at least one lineage would display a fundamentally different communicative system. The study
therefore identifies 135,000 years ago as a minimum age for the
emergence of language readiness in our species."
...
"Earlier proposals often placed the origin of language closer to 50,000 years ago, during a period sometimes described as a cultural expansion.
By tying the timeline to the earliest documented genetic divergence, the
new research shifts the discussion deeper into African prehistory. The estimate does not depend on isolated artifacts but on shared ancestry.
"By using patterns of divergence in DNA as a reference point, the researchers establish a firm lower boundary for language emergence. The study concludes that the biological framework required for structured
speech was already present in Homo sapiens at least 135,000 years ago in Africa, before the earliest major population divergence identified in
the genomic record."
See, I was right all the long!
On 4/03/2026 8:56 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 03/03/2026 15:04, The True Melissa wrote:No!! No! No. Aggy, THIS will NOT do!! They're talking about developments 50,000 years ago or even 135,000 years ago!!
Verily, in article <10o6hjn$2070j$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
BULLSHIT!! Else WE (You, Me, everyone) are no more intelligent than
those that left Africa!! Really??
One of the problems with these discussions is that "we left Africa"
happened multiple times. Homo erectus covered most of the Earth before
the later human species had even happened. Later migrants met the
descendants of earlier migrants, and the fossil record reflects all
this, so it does get a little confusing -- particularly since we could
all interbreed.
For those interested, Sleepless Homo (on YouTube) has some great long-
form videos on the history of our species. North 02 (also on YouTube)
has mostly mid-length videos on more specific topics.
Save your time and read this study instead. https://
dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/dna-study-reveals-when-humans-first-learned-
to-speak/
"Despite this long separation, every known human community today
shares the same fundamental language capacity. All societies use
structured systems that combine grammar with meaning. No documented
human population lacks the cognitive framework required for complex
speech. That universality forms the core of the researchersrCO reasoning.
"If early branches separated 135,000 years ago and all descendant
populations possess this ability, then the underlying biological
framework must predate the split. Otherwise, at least one lineage
would display a fundamentally different communicative system. The
study therefore identifies 135,000 years ago as a minimum age for the
emergence of language readiness in our species."
...
"Earlier proposals often placed the origin of language closer to
50,000 years ago, during a period sometimes described as a cultural
expansion. By tying the timeline to the earliest documented genetic
divergence, the new research shifts the discussion deeper into African
prehistory. The estimate does not depend on isolated artifacts but on
shared ancestry.
"By using patterns of divergence in DNA as a reference point, the
researchers establish a firm lower boundary for language emergence.
The study concludes that the biological framework required for
structured speech was already present in Homo sapiens at least 135,000
years ago in Africa, before the earliest major population divergence
identified in the genomic record."
See, I was right all the long!
How can they be so far off YOUR 10,000 year occurrence, Aggy??
On 03/03/2026 11:44, Daniel70 wrote:
On 3/03/2026 6:07 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 02/03/2026 10:12, Daniel70 wrote:
On 2/03/2026 10:48 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/03/2026 23:10, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2crc$jvu7$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the
Homo Sapiens who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years
ago and didn't migrate into Asia and Europe did not
undergo and could not have undergone these changes to
their brain configuration independently.
Who said they did? DNA spreads. Don't forget that there are
traces of Neanderthal DNA in native African populations.
Actually there isn't. That's what differentiates them from
Europeans and Asians. Up to 5% of European and Asian DNA is
from Neanderthals or Denisovans.
So NEANDERTHALS do STILL EXIST!!
The Creative Explosion is racist ideology. We know full well
that there are no African or Australian aboriginal
populations that can't read and write when taught,
because THEY were intelligent enough to improve themselves
along the way.
That's racist bullshit.
Bullshit!! Or are YOU suggesting they have not developed since
leaving Africa?? If so, I would beg to differ!!
Then you are being racist.
The latest scientific study into the matter says exactly the same
thing I said.
https://dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/dna-study-reveals-when-humans-first-learned-to-speak/
"Despite this long separation, every known human community today
shares the same fundamental language capacity.
All societies use structured systems that combine grammar with
meaning. No documented human population lacks the cognitive framework required for complex speech.
That universality forms the core of the researchersrCO reasoning.
"If early branches separated 135,000 years ago and all descendant populations possess this ability, then the underlying biological
framework must predate the split. Otherwise, at least one lineage
would display a fundamentally different communicative system. The
study therefore identifies 135,000 years ago as a minimum age for the
emergence of language readiness in our species."
...
"Earlier proposals often placed the origin of language closer to
50,000 years ago, during a period sometimes described as a cultural expansion. By tying the timeline to the earliest documented genetic divergence, the new research shifts the discussion deeper into
African prehistory. The estimate does not depend on isolated
artifacts but on shared ancestry.
"By using patterns of divergence in DNA as a reference point, the researchers establish a firm lower boundary for language emergence.
The study concludes that the biological framework required for
structured speech was already present in Homo sapiens at least
135,000 years ago in Africa, before the earliest major population
divergence identified in the genomic record."
Problem solved!
Africans and Aboriginals were already fully developed in Africa.
Sorry!! What?? There were Aboriginals in Africa?? Really??
The DNA linage that became Aboriginals in Australia came from Africa,
or do you suppose that it came from Mars?
I would have thought there were JUST Africans in Africa, some of
whom LEFT Africa and developed into European Aboriginals, American
Aboriginals, Asian Aboriginals and Australian Aboriginals, etc.,
etc..
No changes in intelligence of any race took place after they left
Africa.
BULLSHIT!! Else WE (You, Me, everyone) are no more intelligent
than those that left Africa!! Really??
That's what the latest science says, which uses exactly the same
methodology that I used.
https://dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/dna-study-reveals-when-humans-first-learned-to-speak/
Are you going to disagree with everyone?
or that they any worse at it than Europeans and Asians, soWho's to say that the Europeans weren't intelligent enough to
they must have been capable of doing so at least 200,000
years ago before the migrations out of Africa began.
Otherwise the timeline of those migrations has to be wrong.
improve themselves over the intervening years??
And the converse of that is that Africans and Aboriginals who
were illiterate and numerate
Where are YOU getting these Aboriginals from, Aggy?? Or are you
using the word "Aboriginal" in it Basic sense ..."The Original
Land Occupiers", e.g. The Eskimo, The 'red' Indian, The Aztecs, The
Africans, etc??
The original land occupiers were Denisovans, Neanderthals, and Homo
Erctus
and Home Heidelbegensis,
etc. Aboriginals to the majority of people means the black people of Australia just like Red Indians means the brownish people of North
America.
until they were discovered by Europeans
You mean "The Europeans" who can out of Africa and developed??
were not able to improve themselves.
Because THEY had no need to .... they had what they needed!
This entire principle
Sorry! What "principle"??
See above. Every modern scientist agrees with me.
is racist and easily disproven by the fact that Africans and
Aboriginals posses university degrees and PhDs without any
interbreeding with Europeans or Asians.
WHAT THE ....?? Are you, Aggy, really suggesting that the Africans
of today are no better off than the Africans that left Africa
thousands of years ago??
Not just me but EVERY modern scientist.
Either everyone possessed the same brain functions when Homo
Sapiens left Africa 200,000 years ago, or the timeline is
completely wrong.
Are you, Aggy, saying that every modern day European has the same
I.Q.??
How about every Asian?? Bugger it, How about every African??
I personally think the timeline is completely wrong and the
migration out of Africa and towards other parts of Africa didn't
take place until 10,000 years ago.
Oh!! Well, if that's what you think, Prof Aggy!!
It's not just what I think it's what everyone who has studied the
subject now thinks, and I didn't need a PhD in Anthropology to
figureit out by basic reasoning. I are obviously an intellectually
challenged genetic throwback.
https://dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/dna-study-reveals-when-humans-first-learned-to-speak/
How else can you possibly explain the non-existence of either
writing or language anywhere in the world before 10,000 years
ago
Because 'they' had no need for it, Aggy. They just used their
E.S.P. instead!!
when even a 3 or 4 year old child can read and write and an 18
month old can communicate through language?
Well, aren't they the Smarty-pants, then!!
Biologists and archaeologists have got their timelines wrong.
Gee Whiz!! Who to believe .... 'Biologists and archaeologists' or
our Aggy?? Ummmm??
Where are the skeletons of Homo Sapiens which are older thanGee Whiz!! I'm sure I've seen them on the T.V. ... but, then again,
10,000 years old anyway? I don't remember there being any.
I've seen a made-up T.V. show called "Doctor Who" on T.V., too, so
maybe those Archaeology-type T.V. shops ARE made-up, too!!
Where are the skeletons? I've not seen a single one of them. All I
hear about is beads and tools. Where are the people that used them?
On 03/03/2026 15:07, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o6ia3$20eti$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
The Time Lords are a future human colony on GillifraySo when do Humans gain this Regeneration capability?? If I hang around a >>> few more years, might I become one of the first to do it?? Or will it
as is implied in The Brain of Morbius.
only be new-born babes that will gain this regeneration capability??
That's a darn good question. I hope we don't have to bring the Timeless
Child into this.
Regeneration was invented after the time of Omega and Rassilon since Rassilon was looking for the secret of immortality which no Time Lord of
his time possessed. First it was a mechanical process which the Time
Lords shared with the Minyans and then it became fully biological.
Perhaps the other phenotypes come from the so-called junk DNA, if we
learn how to activate it. If we can get all the way to Gallifrey and
invent time travel, we can probably do near-magic with DNA as well.
You would need to create an Eye of Harmony in order to power both time travel and regeneration as we say in The Three Doctors, The Deadly
Assassin, and the TVM.
See, without out the Timeless Child monster trying to impose degenerate
fab fiction as canon
we can have proper discussion about Doctor Who again.
On 4/03/2026 2:04 am, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o6hjn$2070j$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
BULLSHIT!! Else WE (You, Me, everyone) are no more intelligent
than those that left Africa!! Really??
One of the problems with these discussions is that "we left Africa"
happened multiple times. Homo erectus covered most of the Earth
before the later human species had even happened.
And don't forget Neanderthals who had 'settled' northern Europe after
leaving Africa .... and then encountered Home-Erectus (or was it >Homo-Sapians??) when they, in turn) left Africa to 'settle' in >Europe/Asia/Australia/The Americas.
Later migrants met the descendants of earlier migrants, and theHaving already well and truly exceeded my monthly download-limit in less
fossil record reflects all this, so it does get a little confusing --
particularly since we could all interbreed.
For those interested, Sleepless Homo (on YouTube) has some great
long- form videos on the history of our species. North 02 (also on
YouTube) has mostly mid-length videos on more specific topics.
than half a month, my viewing of On-line Videos is well and truly limited.
----
Daniel70
On 4/03/2026 9:19 am, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
The foundation of modern biology. Darwin merely regurgitated a
theory that was already known to Plato and to the Hindu's of India.
They'd all figured it out by at least 2500 years ago, which species
were more evolved and others and which were less evolved, and if
you were good you got reincarnated as a more evolved life form, and
if you were bad you got reincarnated as a less evolved one.
I like the idea of reincarnation... I don't believe in it though.
But isn't that the basis of (I think) the Hindu Religion?? .... If you
do GOOD things, you are reincarnated as a Higher/Better Entity, if you
stuff up, you get demoted in the next incarnation.
But if there is such thing as reincarnation, why does Dave Yadallee
keep coming back as the same thing?!
Because we've all been BAD!! Very, Very, BAD!!
No, that doesn't work .... "why does Dave Yadallee keep coming back as
the same thing?!" ..... because he is pig ignorant!! And can't take a hint!!
:)
----
Daniel70
On 4/03/2026 12:30 pm, The True Doctor wrote:
On 03/03/2026 23:09, The Doctor wrote:I was thinking "reincarnation for Binky(Word used by paedophiles to indicate >their joy of child sexual molestation)", too, cause we all know what a
In article <10o7nbc$2emcd$2@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor-a <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
On 03/03/2026 22:19, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
The foundation of modern biology. Darwin merely regurgitated a
theory that was already known to Plato and to the Hindu's of
India. They'd all figured it out by at least 2500 years ago,
which species were more evolved and others and which were less
evolved, and if you were good you got reincarnated as a more
evolved life form, and if you were bad you got reincarnated as
a less evolved one.
I like the idea of reincarnation... I don't believe in it
though. But if there is such thing as reincarnation, why does
Dave Yadallee keep coming back as the same thing?!
:)
How do you know what animal he was before and what form he will come
back in next? Is his current form an improvement or regression over his >>>> last form?
You are born once and you die once.
I like the idea of reincarnation. You only live twice and Ian Fleming
would say, or nine times if you're a cat.
GOOD Christian Binky(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of child >sexual molestation) claims to be .... even though he has NEVER backed
up any of the claims he makes!!
----
Daniel70
The idiot insisted:
In article <10o81vd$2hs4a$1@dont-email.me>,
The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
I like the idea of reincarnation. You only live twice and Ian
Fleming would say, or nine times if you're a cat.
Aggy and his cat obsession. He never changes.
I go with the Holy Bible.
YourCOre going to be reincarnated as a Bible!?!
----
solar penguin
On 4/03/2026 8:56 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 03/03/2026 15:04, The True Melissa wrote:No!! No! No. Aggy, THIS will NOT do!! They're talking about developments >50,000 years ago or even 135,000 years ago!!
Verily, in article <10o6hjn$2070j$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
BULLSHIT!! Else WE (You, Me, everyone) are no more intelligent than
those that left Africa!! Really??
One of the problems with these discussions is that "we left Africa"
happened multiple times. Homo erectus covered most of the Earth before
the later human species had even happened. Later migrants met the
descendants of earlier migrants, and the fossil record reflects all
this, so it does get a little confusing -- particularly since we could
all interbreed.
For those interested, Sleepless Homo (on YouTube) has some great long-
form videos on the history of our species. North 02 (also on YouTube)
has mostly mid-length videos on more specific topics.
Save your time and read this study instead.
https://dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/dna-study-reveals-when-humans-first-learned-to-speak/
"Despite this long separation, every known human community today shares
the same fundamental language capacity. All societies use structured
systems that combine grammar with meaning. No documented human
population lacks the cognitive framework required for complex speech.
That universality forms the core of the researchersrCO reasoning.
"If early branches separated 135,000 years ago and all descendant
populations possess this ability, then the underlying biological
framework must predate the split. Otherwise, at least one lineage would
display a fundamentally different communicative system. The study
therefore identifies 135,000 years ago as a minimum age for the
emergence of language readiness in our species."
...
"Earlier proposals often placed the origin of language closer to 50,000
years ago, during a period sometimes described as a cultural expansion.
By tying the timeline to the earliest documented genetic divergence, the
new research shifts the discussion deeper into African prehistory. The
estimate does not depend on isolated artifacts but on shared ancestry.
"By using patterns of divergence in DNA as a reference point, the
researchers establish a firm lower boundary for language emergence. The
study concludes that the biological framework required for structured
speech was already present in Homo sapiens at least 135,000 years ago in
Africa, before the earliest major population divergence identified in
the genomic record."
See, I was right all the long!
How can they be so far off YOUR 10,000 year occurrence, Aggy??
----
Daniel70
On 04/03/2026 09:51, Daniel70 wrote:
On 4/03/2026 8:56 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 03/03/2026 15:04, The True Melissa wrote:No!! No! No. Aggy, THIS will NOT do!! They're talking about developments
Verily, in article <10o6hjn$2070j$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
BULLSHIT!! Else WE (You, Me, everyone) are no more intelligent than
those that left Africa!! Really??
One of the problems with these discussions is that "we left Africa"
happened multiple times. Homo erectus covered most of the Earth before >>>> the later human species had even happened. Later migrants met the
descendants of earlier migrants, and the fossil record reflects all
this, so it does get a little confusing -- particularly since we could >>>> all interbreed.
For those interested, Sleepless Homo (on YouTube) has some great long- >>>> form videos on the history of our species. North 02 (also on YouTube)
has mostly mid-length videos on more specific topics.
Save your time and read this study instead. https://
dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/dna-study-reveals-when-humans-first-learned-
to-speak/
"Despite this long separation, every known human community today
shares the same fundamental language capacity. All societies use
structured systems that combine grammar with meaning. No documented
human population lacks the cognitive framework required for complex
speech. That universality forms the core of the researchersrCO reasoning. >>>
"If early branches separated 135,000 years ago and all descendant
populations possess this ability, then the underlying biological
framework must predate the split. Otherwise, at least one lineage
would display a fundamentally different communicative system. The
study therefore identifies 135,000 years ago as a minimum age for the
emergence of language readiness in our species."
...
"Earlier proposals often placed the origin of language closer to
50,000 years ago, during a period sometimes described as a cultural
expansion. By tying the timeline to the earliest documented genetic
divergence, the new research shifts the discussion deeper into African
prehistory. The estimate does not depend on isolated artifacts but on
shared ancestry.
"By using patterns of divergence in DNA as a reference point, the
researchers establish a firm lower boundary for language emergence.
The study concludes that the biological framework required for
structured speech was already present in Homo sapiens at least 135,000
years ago in Africa, before the earliest major population divergence
identified in the genomic record."
See, I was right all the long!
50,000 years ago or even 135,000 years ago!!
How can they be so far off YOUR 10,000 year occurrence, Aggy??
Once again you prove that you don't understand a single word that anyone >says and can't follow a discussion. Either language skills were present >200,000 years ago when Homo-Sapiens was in Africa or Homo-Sapiens didn't >leave Africa until 10,000 years ago when these skills were clearly
evident is what I said. There was no evolution of language skills after
the species left Africa for the reasons stated above.
----
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw
"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it >stands for." --William Shatner
On 4/03/2026 8:55 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 03/03/2026 11:44, Daniel70 wrote:
On 3/03/2026 6:07 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 02/03/2026 10:12, Daniel70 wrote:
On 2/03/2026 10:48 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 01/03/2026 23:10, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2crc$jvu7$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the
Homo Sapiens who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years
ago and didn't migrate into Asia and Europe did not
undergo and could not have undergone these changes to
their brain configuration independently.
Who said they did? DNA spreads. Don't forget that there are
traces of Neanderthal DNA in native African populations.
Actually there isn't. That's what differentiates them from
Europeans and Asians. Up to 5% of European and Asian DNA is
from Neanderthals or Denisovans.
So NEANDERTHALS do STILL EXIST!!
The Creative Explosion is racist ideology. We know full well
that there are no African or Australian aboriginal
populations that can't read and write when taught,
because THEY were intelligent enough to improve themselves
along the way.
That's racist bullshit.
Bullshit!! Or are YOU suggesting they have not developed since
leaving Africa?? If so, I would beg to differ!!
Then you are being racist.
Sorry!! *I'm* being racist when it is YOU that claims there has been NO >DEVELOPMENT since 'WE' left Africa. REALLY??
The latest scientific study into the matter says exactly the same
thing I said.
https://dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/dna-study-reveals-when-humans-first-learned-to-speak/
"Despite this long separation, every known human community today
shares the same fundamental language capacity.
So WE speak now because we can .... but they didn't speak then because
they had nothing to speak about .... or didn't WANT to!! REALLY??
All societies use structured systems that combine grammar with
meaning. No documented human population lacks the cognitive framework
required for complex speech.
So early Homo-Sapiens CHOSE Not to speak!! Right!!
That universality forms the core of the researchersrCO reasoning.
"If early branches separated 135,000 years ago and all descendant
populations possess this ability, then the underlying biological
framework must predate the split. Otherwise, at least one lineage
would display a fundamentally different communicative system. The
study therefore identifies 135,000 years ago as a minimum age for the
emergence of language readiness in our species."
...
"Earlier proposals often placed the origin of language closer to
50,000 years ago, during a period sometimes described as a cultural
expansion. By tying the timeline to the earliest documented genetic
divergence, the new research shifts the discussion deeper into
African prehistory. The estimate does not depend on isolated
artifacts but on shared ancestry.
"By using patterns of divergence in DNA as a reference point, the
researchers establish a firm lower boundary for language emergence.
The study concludes that the biological framework required for
structured speech was already present in Homo sapiens at least
135,000 years ago in Africa, before the earliest major population
divergence identified in the genomic record."
Problem solved!
Problem?? What Problem?? The one were Aggy refuses to think that HE
might be wrong?? Right??
Africans and Aboriginals were already fully developed in Africa.
Sorry!! What?? There were Aboriginals in Africa?? Really??
The DNA linage that became Aboriginals in Australia came from Africa,
or do you suppose that it came from Mars?
Yes, of course it did .... just like the DNA linage that became
Europeans, or Asians or Americans!!
I would have thought there were JUST Africans in Africa, some of
whom LEFT Africa and developed into European Aboriginals, American
Aboriginals, Asian Aboriginals and Australian Aboriginals, etc.,
etc..
No changes in intelligence of any race took place after they left
Africa.
BULLSHIT!! Else WE (You, Me, everyone) are no more intelligent
than those that left Africa!! Really??
That's what the latest science says, which uses exactly the same
methodology that I used.
https://dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/dna-study-reveals-when-humans-first-learned-to-speak/
Are you going to disagree with everyone?
No, just YOU, it would seem, Aggy.
or that they any worse at it than Europeans and Asians, soWho's to say that the Europeans weren't intelligent enough to
they must have been capable of doing so at least 200,000
years ago before the migrations out of Africa began.
Otherwise the timeline of those migrations has to be wrong.
improve themselves over the intervening years??
And the converse of that is that Africans and Aboriginals who
were illiterate and numerate
Where are YOU getting these Aboriginals from, Aggy?? Or are you
using the word "Aboriginal" in it Basic sense ..."The Original
Land Occupiers", e.g. The Eskimo, The 'red' Indian, The Aztecs, The
Africans, etc??
The original land occupiers were Denisovans, Neanderthals, and Homo
Erctus
... who ALL LEFT Africa!!
and Home Heidelbegensis,
Can't say I've heard of them but, I'm guessing, they were also "Out of >Africa"!!
etc. Aboriginals to the majority of people means the black people of
Australia just like Red Indians means the brownish people of North
America.
Yes, SO??
until they were discovered by Europeans
You mean "The Europeans" who can out of Africa and developed??
were not able to improve themselves.
Because THEY had no need to .... they had what they needed!
This entire principle
Sorry! What "principle"??
See above. Every modern scientist agrees with me.
is racist and easily disproven by the fact that Africans and
Aboriginals posses university degrees and PhDs without any
interbreeding with Europeans or Asians.
WHAT THE ....?? Are you, Aggy, really suggesting that the Africans
of today are no better off than the Africans that left Africa
thousands of years ago??
Not just me but EVERY modern scientist.
Except foe those that don't!!
WHAT?? You rant and rave about "Denisovans, Neanderthals, and HomoEither everyone possessed the same brain functions when Homo
Sapiens left Africa 200,000 years ago, or the timeline is
completely wrong.
Are you, Aggy, saying that every modern day European has the same
I.Q.??
How about every Asian?? Bugger it, How about every African??
I personally think the timeline is completely wrong and the
migration out of Africa and towards other parts of Africa didn't
take place until 10,000 years ago.
Oh!! Well, if that's what you think, Prof Aggy!!
It's not just what I think it's what everyone who has studied the
subject now thinks, and I didn't need a PhD in Anthropology to
figureit out by basic reasoning. I are obviously an intellectually
challenged genetic throwback.
https://dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/dna-study-reveals-when-humans-first-learned-to-speak/
How else can you possibly explain the non-existence of either
writing or language anywhere in the world before 10,000 years
ago
Because 'they' had no need for it, Aggy. They just used their
E.S.P. instead!!
when even a 3 or 4 year old child can read and write and an 18
month old can communicate through language?
Well, aren't they the Smarty-pants, then!!
Biologists and archaeologists have got their timelines wrong.
Gee Whiz!! Who to believe .... 'Biologists and archaeologists' or
our Aggy?? Ummmm??
Where are the skeletons of Homo Sapiens which are older thanGee Whiz!! I'm sure I've seen them on the T.V. ... but, then again,
10,000 years old anyway? I don't remember there being any.
I've seen a made-up T.V. show called "Doctor Who" on T.V., too, so
maybe those Archaeology-type T.V. shops ARE made-up, too!!
Where are the skeletons? I've not seen a single one of them. All I
hear about is beads and tools. Where are the people that used them?
Erctus" but you've NEVER SEEN ONE!! Really? (Now watch as Aggy says
these are "recreations based on" somebodies THEORIES .... just like the >Rubbish Aggy is now spruking!!
Oh!! O.K., so when I see 'smarter people' than me (or, I think, YOU,
Aggy) say they've dug up skeletal remains dating back
15,000/25,000/40,000 years, I have to believe YOU, do I, Aggy??
----
Daniel70
On 4/03/2026 9:21 am, The True Doctor wrote:
On 03/03/2026 15:07, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o6ia3$20eti$1@dont-email.me>, did daniel47
@nomail.afraid.org deliver unto us this message:
The Time Lords are a future human colony on GillifraySo when do Humans gain this Regeneration capability?? If I hang around a >>>> few more years, might I become one of the first to do it?? Or will it
as is implied in The Brain of Morbius.
only be new-born babes that will gain this regeneration capability??
That's a darn good question. I hope we don't have to bring the Timeless
Child into this.
Regeneration was invented after the time of Omega and Rassilon since
Rassilon was looking for the secret of immortality which no Time Lord of
his time possessed. First it was a mechanical process which the Time
Lords shared with the Minyans and then it became fully biological.
"immortality which no Time Lord of his time possessed" .... except for
the one later known as "The Timeless Child"!!
Discuss!!
Perhaps the other phenotypes come from the so-called junk DNA, if we
learn how to activate it. If we can get all the way to Gallifrey and
invent time travel, we can probably do near-magic with DNA as well.
You would need to create an Eye of Harmony in order to power both time
travel and regeneration as we say in The Three Doctors, The Deadly
Assassin, and the TVM.
See, without out the Timeless Child monster trying to impose degenerate
fab fiction as canon
"without out"?? Does that count as a Double Negative or something??
Sorry!! WHAT?? Isn't ALL of "Doctor Who" mythology/Canon little more
than "fan fiction"??
we can have proper discussion about Doctor Who again.WE ARE having 'proper' discussion about 'Doctor Who' Aggy. It would be a
bit difficult if WE ALL agreed about EVERYTHING 'Doctor Who', Aggy.
----
Daniel70
On 01/03/2026 23:10, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2crc$jvu7$1@dont-email.me>, did agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo Sapiens
who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and didn't migrate into
Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not have undergone these
changes to their brain configuration independently.
Who said they did? DNA spreads. Don't forget that there are traces of Neanderthal DNA in native African populations.
Here we ago, https://dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/dna-study-reveals-when-humans-first-learned-to-speak/
Everything I said above is proven by the latest research.
"Despite this long separation, every known human community today shares
the same fundamental language capacity. All societies use structured
systems that combine grammar with meaning. No documented human
population lacks the cognitive framework required for complex speech.
That universality forms the core of the researchers? reasoning.
"If early branches separated 135,000 years ago and all descendant populations possess this ability, then the underlying biological
framework must predate the split. Otherwise, at least one lineage would display a fundamentally different communicative system. The study
therefore identifies 135,000 years ago as a minimum age for the
emergence of language readiness in our species."
Problem solved!
The True Doctor wrote:
On 03/03/2026 22:16, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
See, I was right all the long!
If we all agree that you are, can you then go and watch
"The Seeds of Doom" and do your review a few days early?
The Seeds of Doom is for Friday and it's 6 episodes long so it
might take a while.
I will make a start tomorrow so. Maybe I can manage two episodes
per evening... I'll be ready to chime in with my thoughts at the
weekend then.
In article <10o8tot$2pn52$1@dont-email.me>,
I was thinking "reincarnation for Binky(Word used by paedophiles to indicate >> their joy of child sexual molestation)", too, cause we all know what a
GOOD Christian Binky(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of child >> sexual molestation) claims to be .... even though he has NEVER backed
up any of the claims he makes!!
Or you just ignore the evidence.
On 4/03/2026 9:21 am, The True Doctor wrote:
See, without out the Timeless Child monster trying to
impose degenerate fan fiction as canon
Sorry!! WHAT?? Isn't ALL of "Doctor Who" mythology/Canon
little more than "fan fiction"??
we can have proper discussion about Doctor Who again.
WE ARE having 'proper' discussion about 'Doctor Who' Aggy. It
would be a bit difficult if WE ALL agreed about EVERYTHING
'Doctor Who', Aggy.
Oh!! O.K., so when I see 'smarter people' than me (or, I
think, YOU, Aggy) say they've dug up skeletal remains dating
back 15,000/25,000/40,000 years, I have to believe YOU, do I,
Aggy??
Verily, in article
<xn0pmuowi4m696e00e@news.eternal-september.org>, did
blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
The True Doctor wrote:
The Seeds of Doom is for Friday and it's 6 episodes
long so it might take a while.
I will make a start tomorrow so. Maybe I can manage two
episodes per evening... I'll be ready to chime in with
my thoughts at the weekend then.
If anyone doesn't have a way to watch, it's on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ5SjpZdW8I
That is if you believe evolution.
Humanity has been around for 6000 years.
Verily, in article <10o7kd8$2dkfq$1@dont-email.me>, did >agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
On 01/03/2026 23:10, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10o2crc$jvu7$1@dont-email.me>, did
agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM deliver unto us this message:
You do realise don't you that that claim implies that the Homo Sapiens
who remained behind in Africa 200,000 years ago and didn't migrate into >> >> Asia and Europe did not undergo and could not have undergone these
changes to their brain configuration independently.
Who said they did? DNA spreads. Don't forget that there are traces of
Neanderthal DNA in native African populations.
Here we ago,
https://dailygalaxy.com/2026/03/dna-study-reveals-when-humans-first-learned-to-speak/
Everything I said above is proven by the latest research.
"Despite this long separation, every known human community today shares
the same fundamental language capacity. All societies use structured
systems that combine grammar with meaning. No documented human
population lacks the cognitive framework required for complex speech.
That universality forms the core of the researchers? reasoning.
"If early branches separated 135,000 years ago and all descendant
populations possess this ability, then the underlying biological
framework must predate the split. Otherwise, at least one lineage would
display a fundamentally different communicative system. The study
therefore identifies 135,000 years ago as a minimum age for the
emergence of language readiness in our species."
Problem solved!
No one has denied that.
----
The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
Verily, in article <xn0pmuowi4m696e00e@news.eternal-september.org>, did >blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
The True Doctor wrote:
On 03/03/2026 22:16, Blueshirt wrote:
The True Doctor wrote:
See, I was right all the long!
If we all agree that you are, can you then go and watch
"The Seeds of Doom" and do your review a few days early?
The Seeds of Doom is for Friday and it's 6 episodes long so it
might take a while.
I will make a start tomorrow so. Maybe I can manage two episodes
per evening... I'll be ready to chime in with my thoughts at the
weekend then.
If anyone doesn't have a way to watch, it's on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ5SjpZdW8I
----
The True Melissa - Canal Winchester - Ohio
United States of America - North America - Earth
Solar System - Milky Way - Local Group
Virgo Cluster - Laniakea Supercluster - Cosmos
The Binky(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of child sexual molestation) Doctor wrote:
In article <10o8tot$2pn52$1@dont-email.me>,https://postimg.cc/xJ1FNsgg
I was thinking "reincarnation for Binky(Word used by paedophiles to indicate
their joy of child sexual molestation)", too, cause we all know what a
GOOD Christian Binky(Word used by paedophiles to indicate their joy of child
sexual molestation) claims to be .... even though he has NEVER backed
up any of the claims he makes!!
Or you just ignore the evidence.
Daniel70 wrote:
On 4/03/2026 9:21 am, The True Doctor wrote:
See, without out the Timeless Child monster trying to
impose degenerate fan fiction as canon
Sorry!! WHAT?? Isn't ALL of "Doctor Who" mythology/Canon
little more than "fan fiction"??
It's all fiction, but in the early days it wasn't written by
fans... nowadays, it tends to be the case. Maybe that's where
Doctor Who has gone wrong? Letting fans loose with their ideas
might not have been the best way forward for one of the BBC's
flagship TV programmes.
we can have proper discussion about Doctor Who again.WE ARE having 'proper' discussion about 'Doctor Who' Aggy. It
would be a bit difficult if WE ALL agreed about EVERYTHING
'Doctor Who', Aggy.
I think "proper" in his eyes means we are discussing the classic
era of Doctor Who now... following his re-watch of "The Brain of
Morbius" last week.
I'd like to think that means we're done with all the child
monster, perverts, woke garbage and sexual grooming stuff for a
while... well, hopefully until after the Christmas special
anyway!
It's "The Seeds of Doom" this weekend so even I will go along
with it being called "proper" Doctor Who... as it most
definitely is!
Daniel70 wrote:
Oh!! O.K., so when I see 'smarter people' than me (or, I
think, YOU, Aggy) say they've dug up skeletal remains dating
back 15,000/25,000/40,000 years, I have to believe YOU, do I,
Aggy??
You are on a computer, the whole world of knowledge is at your
fingertips... when in need of deep research on a subject, do a
Perplexity search ... or ask Claude... or whatever...
Academia no longer asks questions on Usenet newsgroups about
serious matters... or trust the responses they'd get if they
did! ;-)
The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article
<xn0pmuowi4m696e00e@news.eternal-september.org>, did
blueshirt@indigo.news deliver unto us this message:
The True Doctor wrote:
The Seeds of Doom is for Friday and it's 6 episodes
long so it might take a while.
I will make a start tomorrow so. Maybe I can manage two
episodes per evening... I'll be ready to chime in with
my thoughts at the weekend then.
If anyone doesn't have a way to watch, it's on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ5SjpZdW8I
Tom Baker is back baby!!!
The Doctor wrote:
That is if you believe evolution.
What reason is there not to believe in evolution?
That's like saying "that's if you believe the world is
round" in response to something...
The Doctor wrote:
Humanity has been around for 6000 years.
I don't think that's actually right, unless my course Professor
at Trinity was telling me lies all those years ago, but debating
that sort of thing here, and with you, is a waste of time.
You can barely handle Doctor Who discussions, let alone serious
topics.
Let's move on and see how you get on with "The Seeds of Doom"...
In article <xn0pmvr1t5ksd8n004@post.eweka.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
You can barely handle Doctor Who discussions, let
alone serious topics.
Stop the flames.
Let's move on and see how you get on with "The Seeds of
Doom"...
My aim is 7 March 2026 Midnight GMT.
The Doctor wrote:
Humanity has been around for 6000 years.
I don't think that's actually right,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
Humanity has been around for 6000 years.
I don't think that's actually right,
ItrCOs partly right. Humanity has been around for 6,000 years.
ItrCOs also been around for hundreds of thousands of years
before that
(depending on how you define humanity, of course.)
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