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Gmail has started bouncing messages from the racc mailing list that echoes
the newsgroup. As usual for Gmail, there is no hint as to why and nothing
has changed about how the list works, and of course there's no usable
contact information.

I have reconfigured the list to make sure that it always rewrites From
headers because I noticed that one of the bounces had a Gmail address in
the From header. Not sure why the DMARC handling code didn't handle that,
since things going to Gmail should always be rewritten, but maybe this
will fix it?

There are various things that I know I could do to sign messages from the mailing list but I have almost no time to work on it, so in practice I'm
not sure how much I'm going to be able to do to solve this problem if that doesn't work.

Hopefully affected people will see this in the newsgroup or mailing list archive somehow.
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Russ Allbery (eagle@eyrie.org) <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
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On Wed, May 13, 2026 at 10:12=E2=80=AFPM Russ Allbery via racc <racc@lists.= eyrie.org>
wrote:

Gmail has started bouncing messages from the racc mailing list that echoe=

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the newsgroup. As usual for Gmail, there is no hint as to why and nothing
has changed about how the list works, and of course there's no usable
contact information.

Oh for pete's sake.

I have reconfigured the list to make sure that it always rewrites From headers because I noticed that one of the bounces had a Gmail address in
the From header. Not sure why the DMARC handling code didn't handle that, since things going to Gmail should always be rewritten, but maybe this
will fix it?

I hope so. This got thru on the mailing list just fine.

There are various things that I know I could do to sign messages from the mailing list but I have almost no time to work on it, so in practice I'm
not sure how much I'm going to be able to do to solve this problem if tha=

t

doesn't work.

Yes fair. Thank you for all your work!

Drew "grumple mumble bet they vibe coded this shit" Nilium

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<div dir=3D"auto">On Wed, May 13, 2026 at 10:12=E2=80=AFPM Russ Allbery via=
racc &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:racc@lists.eyrie.org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"= noreferrer">racc@lists.eyrie.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Gmail has started bouncing messages from the racc mailing list that ec= hoes<br>
&gt; the newsgroup. As usual for Gmail, there is no hint as to why and noth= ing<br>
&gt; has changed about how the list works, and of course there&#39;s no usa= ble<br>
&gt; contact information.<br>

Oh for pete&#39;s sake.<br>

&gt; I have reconfigured the list to make sure that it always rewrites From=

&gt; headers because I noticed that one of the bounces had a Gmail address = in<br>
&gt; the From header. Not sure why the DMARC handling code didn&#39;t handl=
e that,<br>
&gt; since things going to Gmail should always be rewritten, but maybe this=

&gt; will fix it?<br>

I hope so. This got thru on the mailing list just fine.<br>

&gt;<br>
&gt; There are various things that I know I could do to sign messages from = the<br>
&gt; mailing list but I have almost no time to work on it, so in practice I= &#39;m<br>
&gt; not sure how much I&#39;m going to be able to do to solve this problem=
if that<br>
&gt; doesn&#39;t work.<br>

Yes fair. Thank you for all your work!=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"auto">Drew &quot;grumple mumble bet they vibe coded this shit&quot=
; Nilium<br>
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Update on this: There were several messages that got thru but gmail
marked them spam? I marked them as not spam and I'm going to keep
doing so and hopefully that'll convince whatever algorithm is doing
this that they're fine. @@

Drew "so it goes??" Nilium
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Drew Perron <pwerdna@gmail.com> writes:

Update on this: There were several messages that got thru but gmail
marked them spam? I marked them as not spam and I'm going to keep
doing so and hopefully that'll convince whatever algorithm is doing
this that they're fine. @@

Drew "so it goes??" Nilium

Okay, that's great news, that means that it's not rejecting everything all
the time. A few people did get unsubscribed, it looks like, but hopefully Mailman will send them notifications of that and they'll notice eventually
if they're still reading.

Thank you for training their algorithm!
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Russ Allbery (eagle@eyrie.org) <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
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On Thu, May 14, 2026 at 1:39rC>PM Russ Allbery via racc
<racc@lists.eyrie.org> wrote:

Drew Perron <pwerdna@gmail.com> writes:

Update on this: There were several messages that got thru but gmail
marked them spam? I marked them as not spam and I'm going to keep
doing so and hopefully that'll convince whatever algorithm is doing
this that they're fine. @@

Okay, that's great news, that means that it's not rejecting everything all the time. A few people did get unsubscribed, it looks like, but hopefully Mailman will send them notifications of that and they'll notice eventually
if they're still reading.

Hopefully so! :>

Thank you for training their algorithm!

You're very welcome! n.n
Drew "heck yeah makin' it happen" Nilium
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