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I wonder why the Trump people are so preoccupied with a state that
they donrCOt even care about ...
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On 7/5/2026 7:45 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

I wonder why the Trump people are so preoccupied with a state that
they donrCOt even care about ...

Trump's policies are exposing how the Republicans and white nationalists
want to dictate to everyone else. It's reverse psychology. They see
him as their great leader, he's in reality making asses of them.
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Joel W. Crump
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On Jul 5, 2026 at 4:45:39rC>PM MST, "Lawrence D-|Oliveiro" wrote <112eqb2$1h8ub$4@dont-email.me>:

I wonder why the Trump people are so preoccupied with a state that
they donrCOt even care about ...

Because people are celebrated for being different.
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On 7/5/2026 8:47 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:

On Jul 5, 2026 at 4:53:40rC>PM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote <112eqq5$1hg98$1@dont-email.me>:

On 7/5/2026 7:45 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

I wonder why the Trump people are so preoccupied with a state that
they donrCOt even care about ...

Trump's policies are exposing how the Republicans and white nationalists
want to dictate to everyone else. It's reverse psychology. They see
him as their great leader, he's in reality making asses of them.

Exactly.

MAGA's definition of "freedom" seems to be: you are free to do exactly what we
tell you and be who you want to be as long as you are a far right Christian white cishet male.

They rail against California for "telling people how to live" while cheering a
president who pressures states, universities, businesses, media, and even judges to fall in line. Apparently "small government" now means a government big enough to fit into every classroom, boardroom, and doctorrCOs office, and even your bedroom.

The constant obsession with California is also telling. If it's such a failed dystopia, you'd think theyrCOd just ignore it. Instead, they can't stop talking
about it because they need a villain to keep the outrage machine running.

ItrCOs amazing how quickly "donrCOt tread on me" became "please tread on everyone
not like us."

My cousin told me way back during the first Trump term, that it was
about destroying the Republican Party. I would add to that the
establishment as a whole, the Zionist-dominated, war on drugs, low
minimum wage, etc. Trump by being the bad guys' king is setting them up
to fall flat on their faces, it's brilliant.
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On Jul 5, 2026 at 4:53:40rC>PM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote <112eqq5$1hg98$1@dont-email.me>:

On 7/5/2026 7:45 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

I wonder why the Trump people are so preoccupied with a state that
they donrCOt even care about ...

Trump's policies are exposing how the Republicans and white nationalists
want to dictate to everyone else. It's reverse psychology. They see
him as their great leader, he's in reality making asses of them.

Exactly.

MAGA's definition of "freedom" seems to be: you are free to do exactly what we tell you and be who you want to be as long as you are a far right Christian white cishet male.

They rail against California for "telling people how to live" while cheering a president who pressures states, universities, businesses, media, and even judges to fall in line. Apparently "small government" now means a government big enough to fit into every classroom, boardroom, and doctorrCOs office, and even your bedroom.

The constant obsession with California is also telling. If it's such a failed dystopia, you'd think theyrCOd just ignore it. Instead, they can't stop talking about it because they need a villain to keep the outrage machine running.

ItrCOs amazing how quickly "donrCOt tread on me" became "please tread on everyone
not like us."
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Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote in news:6a4afb31$0$27$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

On Jul 5, 2026 at 4:53:40rC>PM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote <112eqq5$1hg98$1@dont-email.me>:

On 7/5/2026 7:45 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

I wonder why the Trump people are so preoccupied with a state that
they donrCOt even care about ...

Trump's policies are exposing how the Republicans and white
nationalists want to dictate to everyone else. It's reverse
psychology. They see him as their great leader, he's in reality
making asses of them.

Exactly.

MAGA's definition of "freedom" seems to be: you are free to do exactly
what we tell you and be who you want to be as long as you are a far
right Christian white cishet male.

They rail against California for "telling people how to live" while
cheering a president who pressures states, universities, businesses,
media, and even judges to fall in line. Apparently "small government"
now means a government big enough to fit into every classroom,
boardroom, and doctorrCOs office, and even your bedroom.

The constant obsession with California is also telling. If it's such a
failed dystopia, you'd think theyrCOd just ignore it. Instead, they
can't stop talking about it because they need a villain to keep the
outrage machine running.

ItrCOs amazing how quickly "donrCOt tread on me" became "please tread
on everyone not like us."

You have taken stupid to a whole different level. Are you a moron or just playing one on usenet?

People focus on Cali because Newsom is currently one of the top picks for
the 2028 election.
Cali has been a total disaster under the leadership of Newsom.

Why do you think people and businesses are leaving Cali in favor of other better run states, mostly red states like texas and Florida.
It's not because things are great for the working class in Cali.

<https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/fleeing-futures-massive-california- exodus-unleashes-florida-gold-rush>

Here is a partial list of what Newsom's liberal governing has done to
destroy once great Cali.

Get your head out of your ass and engage your brain for once in your
goddamned life and do some research instead of muttering like some
liberal retard.

<https://nypost.com/2026/06/30/opinion/california-budget-swells-70-under- gov-gavin-newsom/>

"This week, Democratic legislators approved a state budget u Gavin
NewsomAs last as governor.

When Newsom took office in 2019, CaliforniaAs budget totaled
approximately $209 billion. The budget he and the Legislature are now
sending to his desk comes in at roughly $356 billion. In seven years,
total state spending has increased by nearly $147 billion u a staggering
70% increase (40%, after inflation).

That is not merely a budget increase. It is a governing philosophy
expressed in dollars.

CaliforniaAs population did not grow by anything close to 70% during
those years. Inflation did not come close to that either. State
government grew because the political conditions existed to make it grow.

Gavin Newsom delivering a speech at a conference.
When Gov. Gavin Newsom took office in 2019, CaliforniaAs budget totaled approximately $209 billion.
When a liberal governor sits down with liberal supermajorities in both
the state Senate and state Assembly, the result is not difficult to
predict. More programs become permanent. Temporary spending becomes
ongoing spending. Every surplus becomes an excuse to expand government
rather than prepare for the downturn that eventually follows every
economic expansion.

The state spent tens of billions of dollars addressing homelessness, yet California still has the nationAs largest homeless population. Medi-Cal spending climbed to record levels and has become one of the major drivers
of the stateAs budget pressure. Education spending continued rising even
as enrollment declined in many districts throughout the state.

This is not complicated. Sacramento demanded more money, spent more
money, and promised better results. Yet the core failures remain: homelessness, affordability, weak schools, rising energy costs, insurance instability and basic quality of life.

Taxpayers are entitled to ask what exactly they received in exchange for
an additional $147 billion in annual spending.

California has built one of the most progressive u and volatile u tax
systems in America. In boom years, stock market gains, IPO activity and investment income can flood Sacramento with revenue. That money feels permanent when it arrives, but much of it is tied to financial markets
that can reverse quickly.

That is the trap. Sacramento builds ongoing programs with revenues that
may not continue. When markets rise, politicians expand government. When markets fall, capital gains disappear, tax receipts drop, and the state suddenly discovers that permanent spending commitments were built on
temporary money.

Put plainly, CaliforniaAs budget does not simply rise and fall with the economy. It rises and falls with the stock market.

The volatility would be risky enough on its own. But CaliforniaAs
political class has added another danger: It increasingly treats wealth creation as something to punish rather than protect.

Just the mere possibility of California imposing a billionaire wealth tax
has already sent a message to the taxpayers Sacramento depends upon to
keep the money flowing. You may be next.

California has already watched entrepreneurs, investors and business
leaders leave for states with lower taxes and less hostility toward
success. Whether Sacramento likes it or not, the people capable of paying
the largest tax bills are also among the people most capable of leaving.

Building a $356 billion government while telling your largest taxpayers
that they are the enemy is not fiscal planning. It is wishful thinking.

For much of the Newsom era, California benefited from technology booms, surging markets and extraordinary capital gains revenues. Sacramento
treated those revenues not as temporary windfalls, but as the new normal.

But the bigger issue is not simply whether California can afford a $356 billion government.

It is whether Californians should want one.

America was founded on a very different idea: That free people, families, communities, businesses, religious institutions, and civic associations
should carry the primary responsibility for building prosperous lives and strong communities, with government serving as a limited backstop rather
than the central actor in every aspect of society.

CaliforniaAs political leadership has embraced a different vision. Under
Gov. Newsom and Democratic supermajorities, the assumption increasingly
seems to be that every problem requires another program, another subsidy, another bureaucracy, and another demand on taxpayers.

Seven years later, the bill has arrived.

And so has the question of whether a government this large, this
expensive, and this dependent upon perfect economic conditions was ever sustainable in the first place"
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On 06 Jul 2026 01:06:44 GMT, Omar wrote:

People focus on Cali because Newsom is currently one of the top
picks for the 2028 election. Cali has been a total disaster under
the leadership of Newsom.

And? Are you worried he might somehow win your election regardless?
DoesnrCOt your system pick the best candidate for the job? Or donrCOt you
have that much faith in it?

(After you express your opinion, we can discuss how the *present*
incumbent won the last run of that contest ...)
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On Jul 5, 2026 at 6:06:44rC>PM MST, "Omar" wrote <XnsB480D6C497EF9122020@62.164.182.24>:

Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote in news:6a4afb31$0$27$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

On Jul 5, 2026 at 4:53:40|ore4->PM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote
<112eqq5$1hg98$1@dont-email.me>:

On 7/5/2026 7:45 PM, Lawrence D|ore4raoOliveiro wrote:

I wonder why the Trump people are so preoccupied with a state that
they don|ore4raot even care about ...

Trump's policies are exposing how the Republicans and white
nationalists want to dictate to everyone else. It's reverse
psychology. They see him as their great leader, he's in reality
making asses of them.

Exactly.

MAGA's definition of "freedom" seems to be: you are free to do exactly
what we tell you and be who you want to be as long as you are a far
right Christian white cishet male.

They rail against California for "telling people how to live" while
cheering a president who pressures states, universities, businesses,
media, and even judges to fall in line. Apparently "small government"
now means a government big enough to fit into every classroom,
boardroom, and doctor|ore4raos office, and even your bedroom.

The constant obsession with California is also telling. If it's such a
failed dystopia, you'd think they|ore4raod just ignore it. Instead, they
can't stop talking about it because they need a villain to keep the
outrage machine running.

It|ore4raos amazing how quickly "don|ore4raot tread on me" became "please tread
on everyone not like us."

You have taken stupid to a whole different level. Are you a moron or just playing one on usenet?

People focus on Cali because Newsom is currently one of the top picks for
the 2028 election.
Cali has been a total disaster under the leadership of Newsom.

Why do you think people and businesses are leaving Cali in favor of other better run states, mostly red states like texas and Florida.
It's not because things are great for the working class in Cali.

<https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/fleeing-futures-massive-california-exodus-unleashes-florida-gold-rush>

Here is a partial list of what Newsom's liberal governing has done to
destroy once great Cali.

Get your head out of your ass and engage your brain for once in your goddamned life and do some research instead of muttering like some
liberal retard.

<https://nypost.com/2026/06/30/opinion/california-budget-swells-70-under-gov-gavin-newsom/>

"This week, Democratic legislators approved a state budget rCo Gavin NewsomrCOs last as governor.

When Newsom took office in 2019, CaliforniarCOs budget totaled
approximately $209 billion. The budget he and the Legislature are now
sending to his desk comes in at roughly $356 billion. In seven years,
total state spending has increased by nearly $147 billion rCo a staggering 70% increase (40%, after inflation).

That is not merely a budget increase. It is a governing philosophy
expressed in dollars.

CaliforniarCOs population did not grow by anything close to 70% during
those years. Inflation did not come close to that either. State
government grew because the political conditions existed to make it grow.

Gavin Newsom delivering a speech at a conference.
When Gov. Gavin Newsom took office in 2019, CaliforniarCOs budget totaled approximately $209 billion.
When a liberal governor sits down with liberal supermajorities in both
the state Senate and state Assembly, the result is not difficult to
predict. More programs become permanent. Temporary spending becomes
ongoing spending. Every surplus becomes an excuse to expand government
rather than prepare for the downturn that eventually follows every
economic expansion.

The state spent tens of billions of dollars addressing homelessness, yet California still has the nationrCOs largest homeless population. Medi-Cal spending climbed to record levels and has become one of the major drivers
of the staterCOs budget pressure. Education spending continued rising even
as enrollment declined in many districts throughout the state.

This is not complicated. Sacramento demanded more money, spent more
money, and promised better results. Yet the core failures remain: homelessness, affordability, weak schools, rising energy costs, insurance instability and basic quality of life.

Taxpayers are entitled to ask what exactly they received in exchange for
an additional $147 billion in annual spending.

California has built one of the most progressive rCo and volatile rCo tax systems in America. In boom years, stock market gains, IPO activity and investment income can flood Sacramento with revenue. That money feels permanent when it arrives, but much of it is tied to financial markets
that can reverse quickly.

That is the trap. Sacramento builds ongoing programs with revenues that
may not continue. When markets rise, politicians expand government. When markets fall, capital gains disappear, tax receipts drop, and the state suddenly discovers that permanent spending commitments were built on temporary money.

Put plainly, CaliforniarCOs budget does not simply rise and fall with the economy. It rises and falls with the stock market.

The volatility would be risky enough on its own. But CaliforniarCOs
political class has added another danger: It increasingly treats wealth creation as something to punish rather than protect.

Just the mere possibility of California imposing a billionaire wealth tax
has already sent a message to the taxpayers Sacramento depends upon to
keep the money flowing. You may be next.

California has already watched entrepreneurs, investors and business
leaders leave for states with lower taxes and less hostility toward
success. Whether Sacramento likes it or not, the people capable of paying
the largest tax bills are also among the people most capable of leaving.

Building a $356 billion government while telling your largest taxpayers
that they are the enemy is not fiscal planning. It is wishful thinking.

For much of the Newsom era, California benefited from technology booms, surging markets and extraordinary capital gains revenues. Sacramento
treated those revenues not as temporary windfalls, but as the new normal.

But the bigger issue is not simply whether California can afford a $356 billion government.

It is whether Californians should want one.

America was founded on a very different idea: That free people, families, communities, businesses, religious institutions, and civic associations should carry the primary responsibility for building prosperous lives and strong communities, with government serving as a limited backstop rather
than the central actor in every aspect of society.

CaliforniarCOs political leadership has embraced a different vision. Under Gov. Newsom and Democratic supermajorities, the assumption increasingly
seems to be that every problem requires another program, another subsidy, another bureaucracy, and another demand on taxpayers.

Seven years later, the bill has arrived.

And so has the question of whether a government this large, this
expensive, and this dependent upon perfect economic conditions was ever sustainable in the first place"

Nice rant. Too bad most of it boils down to rCLFox Business and the New York Post said so.rCY

Yes, California has serious problems: housing costs, homelessness, insurance markets, and a volatile tax base. Nobody denies that. But pretending itrCOs some
socialist wasteland ignores a few inconvenient facts.

California remains the largest state economy in the U.S. and, if treated as a country, one of the largest economies in the world. It consistently leads the nation in venture capital, technology, entertainment, and agricultural output.

People also leave California for lower-cost states, while plenty continue moving in for high-paying jobs. Migration isnrCOt a scoreboard for ideology -- itrCOs largely about housing prices and cost of living.

As for the budget, simply citing that it grew 70% without mentioning
inflation, population changes, expanded programs, or the staterCOs constitutional spending requirements is political spin, not analysis.

Maybe try reading something besides Fox Business and the Post before telling everyone else to rCLdo some research.rCY

https://www.bea.gov/
https://www.census.gov/topics/population/migration.html
https://lao.ca.gov/
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On Jul 5, 2026 at 5:52:40rC>PM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote <112eu8r$1ikij$1@dont-email.me>:

On 7/5/2026 8:47 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:

On Jul 5, 2026 at 4:53:40rC>PM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote
<112eqq5$1hg98$1@dont-email.me>:

On 7/5/2026 7:45 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

I wonder why the Trump people are so preoccupied with a state that
they donrCOt even care about ...

Trump's policies are exposing how the Republicans and white nationalists >>> want to dictate to everyone else. It's reverse psychology. They see
him as their great leader, he's in reality making asses of them.

Exactly.

MAGA's definition of "freedom" seems to be: you are free to do exactly what we
tell you and be who you want to be as long as you are a far right Christian >> white cishet male.

They rail against California for "telling people how to live" while cheering a
president who pressures states, universities, businesses, media, and even
judges to fall in line. Apparently "small government" now means a government >> big enough to fit into every classroom, boardroom, and doctorrCOs office, and
even your bedroom.

The constant obsession with California is also telling. If it's such a failed
dystopia, you'd think theyrCOd just ignore it. Instead, they can't stop talking
about it because they need a villain to keep the outrage machine running.

ItrCOs amazing how quickly "donrCOt tread on me" became "please tread on everyone
not like us."

My cousin told me way back during the first Trump term, that it was
about destroying the Republican Party. I would add to that the
establishment as a whole, the Zionist-dominated, war on drugs, low
minimum wage, etc. Trump by being the bad guys' king is setting them up
to fall flat on their faces, it's brilliant.

I am hoping for a huge backlash... but it is taking longer than I thought it would. Or hoped, anyway. We are seeing it to some extent.
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On 7/5/2026 9:22 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:

My cousin told me way back during the first Trump term, that it was
about destroying the Republican Party. I would add to that the
establishment as a whole, the Zionist-dominated, war on drugs, low
minimum wage, etc. Trump by being the bad guys' king is setting them up
to fall flat on their faces, it's brilliant.

I am hoping for a huge backlash... but it is taking longer than I thought it would. Or hoped, anyway. We are seeing it to some extent.

The NYC mayor is a sign of things to come, I wager.
--
Joel W. Crump
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On Jul 5, 2026 at 6:32:20rC>PM MST, ""Joel W. Crump"" wrote <112f0j5$1j7s0$2@dont-email.me>:

On 7/5/2026 9:22 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:

My cousin told me way back during the first Trump term, that it was
about destroying the Republican Party. I would add to that the
establishment as a whole, the Zionist-dominated, war on drugs, low
minimum wage, etc. Trump by being the bad guys' king is setting them up >>> to fall flat on their faces, it's brilliant.

I am hoping for a huge backlash... but it is taking longer than I thought it >> would. Or hoped, anyway. We are seeing it to some extent.

The NYC mayor is a sign of things to come, I wager.

https://www.npr.org/2026/06/24/nx-s1-5869469/mayor-mamdani-endorsed-three-house-candidates-they-all-won

I hope this trend continues.
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Brock "Snit" McNuggets wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS:

<snip>

MAGA's definition of "freedom" seems to be: you are free to do
exactly what we tell you and be who you want to be as long as
you are a far right Christian white cishet male.

They rail against California for "telling people how to live"
while cheering a president who pressures states, universities,
businesses, media, and even judges to fall in line. Apparently
"small government" now means a government big enough to fit into
every classroom, boardroom, and doctorrCOs office, and even your
bedroom.

The constant obsession with California is also telling. If it's
such a failed dystopia, you'd think theyrCOd just ignore it.
Instead, they can't stop talking about it because they need a
villain to keep the outrage machine running.

ItrCOs amazing how quickly "donrCOt tread on me" became "please
tread on everyone not like us."

+1

<cola snipped>
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your left leg, it's modern architecture.
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Lawrence D Oliveiro wrote:

I wonder why the Trump people are so preoccupied with a state that
they donAt even care about ...

Who doesn't care about it?

It's an example of the failures of leftist policies.

Also, the "California effect" can impact all of us.

https://globaldemocracycoalition.org/library/the-california-effect/

A recent example:

https://ago.nebraska.gov/californias-plastics-act-prompts-lawsuit-over-state-sovereignty-and-economic-impacts

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On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 20:52:40 -0400, "Joel W. Crump"
<joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

On 7/5/2026 8:47 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:

<snip>

ItAs amazing how quickly "donAt tread on me" became "please tread on everyone
not like us."

Well observed.

My cousin told me way back during the first Trump term, that it was
about destroying the Republican Party. I would add to that the >establishment as a whole, the Zionist-dominated, war on drugs, low
minimum wage, etc. Trump by being the bad guys' king is setting them up
to fall flat on their faces, it's brilliant.

Trump inserted into the GOP by the Clintons . . . ?
--
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bI2CA3XOSk0>

So now that the idiot in chief has bombed Iran
and shut down Hormuz *again* . . .

. . . you guys finally willing to admit voting for that
rat bastard was a mistake?

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On Sun, 5 Jul 2026 21:32:20 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" wrote:

On 7/5/2026 9:22 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:

My cousin told me way back during the first Trump term, that it was
about destroying the Republican Party. I would add to that the
establishment as a whole, the Zionist-dominated, war on drugs, low
minimum wage, etc. Trump by being the bad guys' king is setting them up >>> to fall flat on their faces, it's brilliant.

I am hoping for a huge backlash... but it is taking longer than I thought it >> would. Or hoped, anyway. We are seeing it to some extent.

The NYC mayor is a sign of things to come, I wager.

The pendulum swings back and forth.
--
"Trump makes a fool of himself with MENTAL STUMBLES at NATO meeting" <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO7rX0LPnH8>

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