• Vance & Trump Talking Sense?!?

    From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,soc.culture.israel on Fri Jun 19 00:39:50 2026
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    <https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/6/18/jd-vance-tells-israel-you-cant-kill-your-way-out-of-security-problems>

    JD:

    ... pointed to criticism of the deal from Israeli officials,
    including far-right ministers Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar
    Ben-Gvir.

    rCLAnd I guess my response to them would be: What is your exact
    proposal? YourCOre a country of nine million people. You canrCOt just
    kill your way out of solving every single national security
    problem that you have,rCY he said.

    He called on Israel to let negotiations play out, and to rCLgive a
    little bit of credit to the United States of America, which I
    think has been an incredible partner for the Israeli government
    for a long timerCY.

    Woah! Burn.

    Trump:

    rCLYou donrCOt have to knock down an apartment house every time yourCOre
    looking for somebody, because there are a lot of people in those
    apartment houses, and theyrCOre not all Hezbollah,rCY he said.

    But will it last, though? Some are saying Trump is setting up JD to be
    the fall guy if the Iran deal proves to be too unpopular with his
    followers ...
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,soc.culture.israel on Sat Jun 20 23:36:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    More JD:

    rCLDonald J. Trump is the only head of state in the entire world who
    is sympathetic to the nation of Israel at this moment in time. And
    he happens to be the head of state of the world's superpower. If I
    was in the cabinet of the Israeli government, I might not be
    attacking the only powerful ally I have left.rCY

    That first sentence is the killer. Vance has basically said the quiet
    part out loud. Why would just about every other country on Earth be so disgusted with Israel? It couldnrCOt be because of their rCLrespectrCY for rCLhuman rightsrCY and rCLinternational lawrCY, could it? You know how their army is the rCLmost moral army in the worldrCY and always carries out operations in a way to rCLminimize civilian casualtiesrCY? Do you wonder
    why other countries arenrCOt impressed by such supposedly careful and painstaking measures to act in a civilized fashion?
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