• South African Gaza flotilla activists say they endured electric shock torture in Israeli custody

    From NefeshBarYochai@void@invalid.noy to soc.culture.jewish,can.politics,nz.politics,rec.arts.tv,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic on Sun May 24 11:45:30 2026
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    JOHANNESBURG (AP) u South African activists who were detained when
    their boats were intercepted while trying to breach IsraelAs blockade
    of Gaza alleged Saturday they were beaten and tortured by Israeli
    soldiers in a detention facility.

    The Global Sumud Flotilla of 50 vessels was intercepted Monday in
    international waters some 250 miles (400 kilometers) off the coast of
    Israel as they sought to breach the blockade and deliver aid to
    Palestinians in Gaza. The activists said they were held for several
    days in IsraelAs KAtziot prison where some said they were shocked with electricity while being interrogated about their participation in the
    flotilla.

    The Israeli government has denied allegations of mistreatment of
    detained flotilla activists, saying they were ofalse and entirely
    without factual basis.o There was no immediate response to the
    activistsA accusations Saturday.

    The activists were welcomed by pro-Palestinian supporters and their
    families as they arrived in South Africa from Turkey on Saturday
    morning.

    They said many of them received harsh treatment, especially when the
    Israeli soldiers learned they were from South Africa, a country that
    has taken Israel to the International Court of Justice and accused it
    of committing genocide in Gaza.

    oWe were denied access to water for a while. Food they did give us,
    food that was not suitable for human consumption. We were denied
    access to toilets for many hours, and the minute we started protesting
    we were shot at with rubber bullets,o said activist Faizel Moosa.

    Moosa, a former anti-apartheid activist during South AfricaAs
    liberation struggle against white minority rule, said the treatment
    they received under detention was the worst he had ever experienced.

    oHaving experienced detention under the apartheid regime during the
    struggle, this was far worse. It just goes to show that this is what Palestinians go through on a daily basis,o said Moosa.

    https://halifax.citynews.ca/2026/05/23/south-african-gaza-flotilla-activists-allege-torture-and-electrocution-in-israeli-detention/


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  • From NefeshBarYochai@void@invalid.noy to soc.culture.jewish,can.politics,nz.politics,rec.arts.tv,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic on Sun May 24 16:02:51 2026
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    Well frankly, this sounds as "reliable" as the following...

    "Fleets of helicopters fly over Nablus at night dropping a dense,
    green toxic gas over the city." https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/document/mideast/hidden/pref.htm

    Big LOL.

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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to soc.culture.israel,nz.politics,alt.politics on Mon May 25 03:41:33 2026
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    On Sun, 24 May 2026 10:09:04 -0600, phoenix wrote:

    Sure bud, the Israelis are going to welcome them with open arms.

    They were nowhere near Israel. Israel kidnapped them from
    international waters.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to soc.culture.israel,nz.politics,alt.politics on Mon May 25 07:03:03 2026
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    On Mon, 25 May 2026 09:01:23 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

    So they needed to be taught a lesson: do not try to obstruct the
    most moral genocide in the world.

    In the short term, Israel wins the battle. In the longer term, every
    such incident weakens its credibility in claiming the moral high
    ground. The seeming invincibility of the Hasbara is starting to wear
    thin.

    Sooner or later, one of those boats is going to get through. How is
    Israel going to react then? Treat them as rCLHamasrCY and try to
    exterminate them? That seems like an even quicker route towards
    total international pariah status.
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