Then is it any wonder they also keep attacking Israel, which is then
forced to defend itself?
A brief summary of the Muslim vs. Muslim violence -- 21st century only ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Since the turn of the century, the death toll from internal conflicts within the Arab and Muslim world has reached staggering heights, with some comprehensive
estimates suggesting that as many as 12.5 million people have perished when accounting for both direct violence and the catastrophic indirect effects of war.
The Syrian Civil War alone has claimed over 614,000 lives, while the conflict in
Yemen resulted in roughly 377,000 deaths by 2022, nearly 60% of which were caused by famine and disease rather than combat. In Sudan, the current civil war
has seen estimates rise toward 400,000 deaths, with a heartbreaking projected loss of over 520,000 children due to malnutrition-related causes by late 2025.
When combined with the high numbers of casualties in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya,
and Somalia-where the collapse of healthcare systems and deliberate blockades of
food and water have turned treatable conditions into fatal ones-the total number
of Muslims and Arabs who have died in these intra-faith or intra-ethnic power struggles far exceeds those lost in any other contemporary global conflict.
Marcia Bullis wrote:
Then is it any wonder they also keep attacking Israel, which is then
forced to defend itself?
A brief summary of the Muslim vs. Muslim violence -- 21st century only
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Since the turn of the century, the death toll from internal conflicts within >> the Arab and Muslim world has reached staggering heights, with some comprehensive
estimates suggesting that as many as 12.5 million people have perished when >> accounting for both direct violence and the catastrophic indirect effects of war.
The Syrian Civil War alone has claimed over 614,000 lives, while the conflict in
Yemen resulted in roughly 377,000 deaths by 2022, nearly 60% of which were >> caused by famine and disease rather than combat. In Sudan, the current civil war
has seen estimates rise toward 400,000 deaths, with a heartbreaking projected
loss of over 520,000 children due to malnutrition-related causes by late 2025.
When combined with the high numbers of casualties in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya,
and Somalia-where the collapse of healthcare systems and deliberate blockades of
food and water have turned treatable conditions into fatal ones-the total number
of Muslims and Arabs who have died in these intra-faith or intra-ethnic power
struggles far exceeds those lost in any other contemporary global conflict. >>
islam is a very very bad and poor os to run, personally and
societally.
In article <10v3bvg$1sgfb$2@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2026 00:52:26 -0400, Smithwicks wrote:
In article <10v00qu$sqjl$8@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Meanwhile the Christians are determined to bring about the End
Times and annihilate everybody, themselves included ...
Don't mistake American Evangelicals for Christianity.
Every proponent of every doctrinal religion, when abuses of their
doctrine are pointed out, resorts to this same excuse, donrCOt they?
rCLTheyrCOre not *real* -2insert name of religion here-+rCY.
Christianity has existed for around 1,960 years (give or take).
It has experienced a multiple divergences of thought over those
near-two millennia, as any religion is likely to.
What is significant is that a far more recent divergence, which is immediately traceable to the social-political-religious landscape of
the 19th and 20th century United States, is at noticeable odds with
the remainder of those other Christian groups.
What's more - the Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and
historic Protestant churches are not "determined to bring about the End
Times and annihilate everybody". That entire stream of theology, Premillennial Dispensationalism, is the pure product of American Evangelicalism. It stands at odds with the eschatological (study of last things) schools of thought which existed within Christianity for 1,800
of its 1,960 years (and which continue to exist within the majority of Christianity throughout the world).
So, yes, I think it is absolutely noteworthy and worth
distinguishing. The Christianity of "Left Behind" and the MAGA
movement would be unrecognizable to anyone outside of the United
States or to anyone who lived before 1900.
On Tue, 26 May 2026 23:41:19 -0400, Smithwicks wrote:
In article <10v3bvg$1sgfb$2@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2026 00:52:26 -0400, Smithwicks wrote:
In article <10v00qu$sqjl$8@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Meanwhile the Christians are determined to bring about the End
Times and annihilate everybody, themselves included ...
Don't mistake American Evangelicals for Christianity.
Every proponent of every doctrinal religion, when abuses of their
doctrine are pointed out, resorts to this same excuse, donrCOt they?
rCLTheyrCOre not *real* -2insert name of religion here-+rCY.
Christianity has existed for around 1,960 years (give or take).
It has experienced a multiple divergences of thought over those
near-two millennia, as any religion is likely to.
What is significant is that a far more recent divergence, which is immediately traceable to the social-political-religious landscape of
the 19th and 20th century United States, is at noticeable odds with
the remainder of those other Christian groups.
ThatrCOs only true if you exclude various random pockets of Trump sympathizers in other parts of the world.
What's more - the Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and historic Protestant churches are not "determined to bring about the End Times and annihilate everybody". That entire stream of theology, Premillennial Dispensationalism, is the pure product of American Evangelicalism. It stands at odds with the eschatological (study of last things) schools of thought which existed within Christianity for 1,800
of its 1,960 years (and which continue to exist within the majority of Christianity throughout the world).
Apparently not. Millennialism has been around in Christianity since practically the beginning
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennialism>. (That article discusses
it in the context of some other religions, too.)
So, yes, I think it is absolutely noteworthy and worth
distinguishing. The Christianity of "Left Behind" and the MAGA
movement would be unrecognizable to anyone outside of the United
States or to anyone who lived before 1900.
The only thing different about this latest lot of crackpots is that
they have access to nuclear weapons and other means of causing great
pain and suffering to the entire rest of the world.
In article <10vaj4e$3phl1$6@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
ThatrCOs only true if you exclude various random pockets of Trump
sympathizers in other parts of the world.
I don't know that those pockets have the same religious fervor over
their golden calf dear leader that Americans do, but I'm open to
correction on that (and would certainly enter a kind of despair at being >shown it).
--
What's more - the Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and
historic Protestant churches are not "determined to bring about the End
Times and annihilate everybody". That entire stream of theology,
Premillennial Dispensationalism, is the pure product of American
Evangelicalism. It stands at odds with the eschatological (study of last >> > things) schools of thought which existed within Christianity for 1,800
of its 1,960 years (and which continue to exist within the majority of
Christianity throughout the world).
Apparently not. Millennialism has been around in Christianity since
practically the beginning
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennialism>. (That article discusses
it in the context of some other religions, too.)
Millennialism just describes a single aspect within Eschatology as a >theological study, I was trying to point out that all Christian Churches >have held to some (or multiple) streams of thought regarding the
specifics of Millennialism BUT what sets apart the "Premillennial >Dispensationalists" are that they are very new, American-centric, and
hold an equally-new and very American mindset of "God gave us the earth
so we can use it up, abuse it to death, and then get raptured out of it >(which we are actively working towards) and let the 'Left Behind'
sinners deal with the consequences!" Whereas historic views of >Millennialism, whatever their specifics, have not been innately tied to >conservative politics, anti-environmentalism, Zionism, and a whole slew
of other things that mark the American Evangelical far-right.
So, yes, I think it is absolutely noteworthy and worth
distinguishing. The Christianity of "Left Behind" and the MAGA
movement would be unrecognizable to anyone outside of the United
States or to anyone who lived before 1900.
The only thing different about this latest lot of crackpots is that
they have access to nuclear weapons and other means of causing great
pain and suffering to the entire rest of the world.
True, unfortunately.
Then is it any wonder they also keep attacking Israel, which is then
forced to defend itself?
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