• Interesting: Muslims killing Muslims - by the millions

    From NefeshBarYochai@void@invalid.noy to soc.culture.israel,can.politics,nz.politics on Mon Apr 20 05:04:58 2026
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    Muslim vs. Muslim violence in the 21st century: 12.5 million dead -----------------------------------------------------------------

    Q. Putting aside the conflicts with Israel: how many Arabs/Muslims died in
    this century in wars with Arabs/Muslims? Not just directly, but also as a result of famine and forced displacement caused by these wars.

    A. Since the turn of the century, the death toll from internal conflicts within the Arab and Muslim world has reached staggering heights, with some comprehensive
    estimates suggesting that as many as 12.5 million people have perished when accounting for both direct violence and the catastrophic indirect effects of war.
    The Syrian Civil War alone has claimed over 614,000 lives, while the conflict in
    Yemen resulted in roughly 377,000 deaths by 2022, nearly 60% of which were caused by famine and disease rather than combat. In Sudan, the current civil war
    has seen estimates rise toward 400,000 deaths, with a heartbreaking projected loss of over 520,000 children due to malnutrition-related causes by late 2025. When combined with the high numbers of casualties in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Somalia-where the collapse of healthcare systems and deliberate blockades of
    food and water have turned treatable conditions into fatal ones-the total number
    of Muslims and Arabs who have died in these intra-faith or intra-ethnic power struggles far exceeds those lost in any other contemporary global conflict.

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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to soc.culture.israel,can.politics,nz.politics on Mon Apr 20 05:40:57 2026
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    On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 05:04:58 +0000 (UTC), rjac@shell02.TheWorld.com
    wrote:

    ...

    So no doubt this excuses Israel contributing even more carnage of
    their own, I suppose ... ?
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  • From Dhu on Gate@campbell@neotext.ca to soc.culture.israel,can.politics,nz.politics on Tue Apr 21 04:52:24 2026
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    On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 05:04:58 +0000 (UTC), NefeshBarYochai wrote:

    Muslim vs. Muslim violence in the 21st century: 12.5 million dead -----------------------------------------------------------------

    Q. Putting aside the conflicts with Israel: how many Arabs/Muslims died in this century in wars with Arabs/Muslims? Not just directly, but also as a result of famine and forced displacement caused by these wars.

    A. Since the turn of the century, the death toll from internal conflicts within
    the Arab and Muslim world has reached staggering heights, with some comprehensive
    estimates suggesting that as many as 12.5 million people have perished when accounting for both direct violence and the catastrophic indirect effects of war.
    The Syrian Civil War alone has claimed over 614,000 lives, while the conflict in
    Yemen resulted in roughly 377,000 deaths by 2022, nearly 60% of which were caused by famine and disease rather than combat. In Sudan, the current civil war
    has seen estimates rise toward 400,000 deaths, with a heartbreaking projected loss of over 520,000 children due to malnutrition-related causes by late 2025.
    When combined with the high numbers of casualties in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya,
    and Somalia-where the collapse of healthcare systems and deliberate blockades of
    food and water have turned treatable conditions into fatal ones-the total number
    of Muslims and Arabs who have died in these intra-faith or intra-ethnic power
    struggles far exceeds those lost in any other contemporary global conflict.

    The last go-round of Yuro-vs-Yuro violence only killed about twice that,
    when the Wierld's population was less than half of the 21c.

    Dhu

    --
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    C'est une esp`ece de sauvage.
    Ne obliviscaris: vix ea nostra voco!

    *A mari ad mari ad mari*

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  • From NoSpamAtAll@spamnot@not.home to soc.culture.israel,can.politics,nz.politics on Tue Apr 21 06:27:18 2026
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    In article <pan$1e3c$c5fbe6c$8ddf6f67$32155b41@neotext.ca>,
    Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> wrote:

    On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 05:04:58 +0000 (UTC), NefeshBarYochai wrote:

    Muslim vs. Muslim violence in the 21st century: 12.5 million dead
    -----------------------------------------------------------------

    Q. Putting aside the conflicts with Israel: how many Arabs/Muslims died in >> this century in wars with Arabs/Muslims? Not just directly, but also as a
    result of famine and forced displacement caused by these wars.

    A. Since the turn of the century, the death toll from internal conflicts within
    the Arab and Muslim world has reached staggering heights, with some comprehensive
    estimates suggesting that as many as 12.5 million people have perished when >> accounting for both direct violence and the catastrophic indirect effects of war.
    The Syrian Civil War alone has claimed over 614,000 lives, while the conflict in
    Yemen resulted in roughly 377,000 deaths by 2022, nearly 60% of which were >> caused by famine and disease rather than combat. In Sudan, the current civil war
    has seen estimates rise toward 400,000 deaths, with a heartbreaking projected
    loss of over 520,000 children due to malnutrition-related causes by late 2025.
    When combined with the high numbers of casualties in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya,
    and Somalia-where the collapse of healthcare systems and deliberate blockades of
    food and water have turned treatable conditions into fatal ones-the total number
    of Muslims and Arabs who have died in these intra-faith or intra-ethnic power
    struggles far exceeds those lost in any other contemporary global conflict.

    The last go-round of Yuro-vs-Yuro violence only killed about twice that,
    when the Wierld's population was less than half of the 21c.

    Which doesn't change anything.

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  • From Dhu on Gate@campbell@neotext.ca to soc.culture.israel,can.politics,nz.politics on Tue Apr 21 14:34:10 2026
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    On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 06:27:18 +0000 (UTC), NoSpamAtAll wrote:

    In article <pan$1e3c$c5fbe6c$8ddf6f67$32155b41@neotext.ca>,
    Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> wrote:

    On Mon, 20 Apr 2026 05:04:58 +0000 (UTC), NefeshBarYochai wrote:

    Muslim vs. Muslim violence in the 21st century: 12.5 million dead
    -----------------------------------------------------------------

    Q. Putting aside the conflicts with Israel: how many Arabs/Muslims died in >>> this century in wars with Arabs/Muslims? Not just directly, but also as a >>> result of famine and forced displacement caused by these wars.

    A. Since the turn of the century, the death toll from internal conflicts within
    the Arab and Muslim world has reached staggering heights, with some comprehensive
    estimates suggesting that as many as 12.5 million people have perished when >>> accounting for both direct violence and the catastrophic indirect effects of war.
    The Syrian Civil War alone has claimed over 614,000 lives, while the conflict in
    Yemen resulted in roughly 377,000 deaths by 2022, nearly 60% of which were >>> caused by famine and disease rather than combat. In Sudan, the current civil war
    has seen estimates rise toward 400,000 deaths, with a heartbreaking projected
    loss of over 520,000 children due to malnutrition-related causes by late 2025.
    When combined with the high numbers of casualties in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya,
    and Somalia-where the collapse of healthcare systems and deliberate blockades of
    food and water have turned treatable conditions into fatal ones-the total number
    of Muslims and Arabs who have died in these intra-faith or intra-ethnic power
    struggles far exceeds those lost in any other contemporary global conflict.

    The last go-round of Yuro-vs-Yuro violence only killed about twice that,
    when the Wierld's population was less than half of the 21c.

    Which doesn't change anything.

    No. It places your whinging in correct perspective. Islam is a Protestant faith, and hardly the most extreme. It is substantially less bloodthirsty
    than most *Protestant* Faiths like my own, which has legions of Fairey
    Dhub awaiting my return at the Styx. Don' mess with shit you don' know, bonehead.

    Go read your five books. What you need to know *is* there.

    Dhu

    --
    Je suis Canadien:
    Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglais,
    C'est une esp`ece de sauvage.
    Ne obliviscaris: vix ea nostra voco!

    *A mari ad mari ad mari*

    Duncan Patton a Campbell

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  • From NoSpamAtAll@spamnot@not.home to soc.culture.israel,can.politics,nz.politics on Tue Apr 21 14:43:25 2026
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    In article <pan$b8e71$6cf8a7a7$23ff728a$33fe2dda@neotext.ca>,
    Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> wrote:

    On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 06:27:18 +0000 (UTC), NoSpamAtAll wrote:

    Muslim vs. Muslim violence in the 21st century: 12.5 million dead
    -----------------------------------------------------------------

    Q. Putting aside the conflicts with Israel: how many Arabs/Muslims died in >>>> this century in wars with Arabs/Muslims? Not just directly, but also as a >>>> result of famine and forced displacement caused by these wars.

    A. Since the turn of the century, the death toll from internal conflicts within
    the Arab and Muslim world has reached staggering heights, with some comprehensive
    estimates suggesting that as many as 12.5 million people have perished when
    accounting for both direct violence and the catastrophic indirect effects of war.
    The Syrian Civil War alone has claimed over 614,000 lives, while the conflict in
    Yemen resulted in roughly 377,000 deaths by 2022, nearly 60% of which were >>>> caused by famine and disease rather than combat. In Sudan, the current civil war
    has seen estimates rise toward 400,000 deaths, with a heartbreaking projected
    loss of over 520,000 children due to malnutrition-related causes by late 2025.
    When combined with the high numbers of casualties in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya,
    and Somalia-where the collapse of healthcare systems and deliberate blockades of
    food and water have turned treatable conditions into fatal ones-the total number
    of Muslims and Arabs who have died in these intra-faith or intra-ethnic power
    struggles far exceeds those lost in any other contemporary global conflict.

    The last go-round of Yuro-vs-Yuro violence only killed about twice that, >>> when the Wierld's population was less than half of the 21c.

    Which doesn't change anything.

    [incoherent babble flushed]

    Try again, halfwit. Wait... don't.

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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to soc.culture.israel,can.politics,nz.politics on Wed Apr 22 07:01:26 2026
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    On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 14:43:25 +0000 (UTC), rjac@shell02.TheWorld.com wrote:

    In article <pan$b8e71$6cf8a7a7$23ff728a$33fe2dda@neotext.ca>,
    Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> wrote:

    [incoherent babble flushed]

    You mean this bit?

    No. It places your whinging in correct perspective. Islam is a
    Protestant faith, and hardly the most extreme. It is substantially
    less bloodthirsty than most *Protestant* Faiths like my own, which
    has legions of Fairey Dhub awaiting my return at the Styx. Don'
    mess with shit you don' know, bonehead.

    Go read your five books. What you need to know *is* there.

    What does rCLflushedrCY mean, anyway?
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