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In article <10r3t8s$34ltb$1@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence D?Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

[flush neo-Nazi/Islamist evasion and propaganda]

Q. How did Israeli Arabs react, when offered the opportunity of
joining the Palestinian Authority?

A. "Fuck the Palestinian Authority, we want to remain Israelis".

<quote>

Changing the Border, Not the People:

The plan was for the border to be redrawn so that towns in the "Triangle" region (like Umm al-Fahm) would simply "wake up" under Palestinian Authority
jurisdiction. Residents would stay in their original homes, but their citizenship would change from Israeli to Palestinian.

Opposition: Israeli Palestinians overwhelmingly rejected this. They viewed
it as a "forced transfer of citizenship" and a strategy to strip them of their rights and economic stability within Israel.

</quote>

Another interesting fact:

Various Muslim nations and organizations in the Middle East have been concentrating their efforts at destroying Israel, and have initiated
many wars and operations against it, since 1948.

Yet, amazingly, since then, about 40 times more Muslims have been killed
by other Muslims in the Middle East, than in all the confrontations with
Israel combined.


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On Tue, 7 Apr 2026 12:13:43 +0000 (UTC), NoSpamAtAll wrote:

On Tue, 7 Apr 2026 08:10:01 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Tue, 7 Apr 2026 07:26:01 +0000 (UTC), NoSpamAtAll wrote:

That's why 25% of Israel's citizens are non-Jewish, I guess ...

You mean the ones who are treated as second-class citizens in what
is supposed to be their own country?

Residents would stay in their original homes, but their citizenship
would change from Israeli to Palestinian.

Does Israel recognize Palestine, then?

Otherwise, what entity exactly, would these Palestinians be citizens
of?
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Lawrence D?Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

[flush neo-Nazi/Islamist evasion and propaganda]

Q. How did Israeli Arabs react, when offered the opportunity of
joining the Palestinian Authority?

A. "Fuck the Palestinian Authority, we want to remain Israelis".

<quote>

Changing the Border, Not the People:

The plan was for the border to be redrawn so that towns in the "Triangle" region (like Umm al-Fahm) would simply "wake up" under Palestinian Authority
jurisdiction. Residents would stay in their original homes, but their citizenship would change from Israeli to Palestinian.

Opposition: Israeli Palestinians overwhelmingly rejected this. They viewed
it as a "forced transfer of citizenship" and a strategy to strip them of their rights and economic stability within Israel.

</quote>

Another interesting fact:

Various Muslim nations and organizations in the Middle East have been concentrating their efforts at destroying Israel, and have initiated
many wars and operations against it, since 1948.

Yet, amazingly, since then, about 40 times more Muslims have been killed
by other Muslims in the Middle East, than in all the confrontations with
Israel combined.

Why is that? And where is the protest by the Left?

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On Thu, 9 Apr 2026 02:31:44 +0000 (UTC), NoSpamAtAll wrote:

On Tue, 7 Apr 2026 08:10:01 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

On Tue, 7 Apr 2026 07:26:01 +0000 (UTC), NoSpamAtAll wrote:

That's why 25% of Israel's citizens are non-Jewish, I guess ...

You mean the ones who are treated as second-class citizens in what
is supposed to be their own country?

Residents would stay in their original homes, but their citizenship
would change from Israeli to Palestinian.

Does Israel recognize Palestine, then?

Otherwise, what entity exactly, would these Palestinians be citizens
of?

Or is this all about rendering the Palestinians stateless?
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On Thu, 9 Apr 2026 02:28:31 +0000 (UTC), NoSpamAtAll wrote:

Animal Comparisons: Official state media and speakers have used
motifs comparing Jews and Zionists to rats, mice, and other vermin.

Gee, that kind of thing works both ways, doesnrCOt it.

In Gaza, Israeli soldiers refer to the Palestinians they use as human
shields as rCLmosquitoesrCY. They get sent ahead to trigger any booby
traps that might be waiting for the soldiers.

There was one incident where one such Palestinian was killed by a
second lot of Israeli soldiers, who thought he was Hamas, not
realizing he was a human shield for a bunch of their colleagues.

<https://www.democracynow.org/2025/5/29/israeli_soldiers_using_palestinians_human_shields>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shields_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict>
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On Thu, 9 Apr 2026 05:47:13 +0000 (UTC), NoSpamAtAll wrote:

Amir is the 3,000th child from Gaza and the West Bank to come to Israel
for lifesaving surgery supported by "Save a Child's Heart"

How nice. Only 15,000 more to go <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cze61zg7zzpo>.

And *then* maybe we can discuss how all this in some way makes up for
the massacre by Israel of thousands of others.
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On Thu, 9 Apr 2026 05:49:09 +0000 (UTC), NoSpamAtAll wrote:

Animal Comparisons: Official state media and speakers have used
motifs comparing Jews and Zionists to rats, mice, and other vermin.

Gee, that kind of thing works both ways, doesnrCOt it.

In Gaza, Israeli soldiers refer to the Palestinians they use as human
shields as rCLmosquitoesrCY. They get sent ahead to trigger any booby
traps that might be waiting for the soldiers.

There was one incident where one such Palestinian was killed by a
second lot of Israeli soldiers, who thought he was Hamas, not
realizing he was a human shield for a bunch of their colleagues.

<https://www.democracynow.org/2025/5/29/israeli_soldiers_using_palestinians_human_shields>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shields_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict>
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On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 07:19:07 +0000 (UTC), Loose Cannon wrote:

In article <10r9cuk$m58a$9@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence D?Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 9 Apr 2026 05:47:13 +0000 (UTC), NoSpamAtAll wrote:

Amir is the 3,000th child from Gaza and the West Bank to come to
Israel for lifesaving surgery supported by "Save a Child's Heart"

How nice.

VERY nice, actually.

Yeah, nothing like trying to whitewash your sins by offering up a
minor, token feel-good story every once in a while. After all, if you
let one or two live a bit longer, that must disprove the claim that
yourCOre trying to commit genocide on them all, doesnrCOt it?

For the rest, blame your Hamas heroes:

Is this the theory that the instigator of a war, like that which
started on October 7 2023, must bear all the blame for all the
atrocities committed by the other side on them?

Could we apply that to this war against Iran as well?
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