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  • Re: Saying Grace At Meals

    From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.politics.religion,nz.politics on Mon Apr 6 08:18:28 2026
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    On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 07:33:45 -0400, chose wrote:

    Extinguishing another awareness without a need for doing so in order
    to survive is immoral IMO. At least some first nations hunters
    apologize to the animal they had to kill and thank it for its
    unwilling gift.

    What about before eating plants?

    In your view, does life begin at conception? Which means every time
    you eat a seed, you are extinguishing a life?
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  • From chose@chose@INVALID_.gov to alt.politics.religion,nz.politics on Mon Apr 6 10:19:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    On 4/6/26 4:18 AM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
    On Wed, 1 Apr 2026 07:33:45 -0400, chose wrote:

    Extinguishing another awareness without a need for doing so in order
    to survive is immoral IMO. At least some first nations hunters
    apologize to the animal they had to kill and thank it for its
    unwilling gift.

    What about before eating plants?

    I don't think they apologize to plants.

    In your view, does life begin at conception? Which means every time
    you eat a seed, you are extinguishing a life?

    In biology life began when the first cell grew a tail as a result of
    mutation or of failed division, started waging it which gave it
    MOBILITY. I could field that as a definition for the beginning of human
    life i.e. first motion inside an embrio; however, before that I would
    argue that all discussion about abortion must exclude men.


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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to alt.politics.religion,nz.politics on Sat Apr 11 06:38:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    On Mon, 6 Apr 2026 10:19:06 -0400, chose wrote:

    On 4/6/26 4:18 AM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

    In your view, does life begin at conception? Which means every time
    you eat a seed, you are extinguishing a life?

    In biology life began when the first cell grew a tail as a result of mutation or of failed division, started waging it which gave it
    MOBILITY.

    So an individual who is not mobile is not alive?
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