• Re: Found On BlueSky

    From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Mar 29 00:43:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 18:50:06 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    On 3/28/2026 6:11 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

    On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 17:23:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    DidnrCOt your Government have to release some emergency reserves to
    keep things at that level? They canrCOt keep doing that indefinitely.

    Call me when the price hit $5.

    Stay tuned.

    It will take months to get those reserves out. And Biden sold off
    2/3rds of the reserves already.

    So it *would have* taken months to use up those reserves, if Biden
    hadnrCOt already got rid of most of them?
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Mar 31 03:43:29 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    Ending the war between the US and Iran will be hard, experts say, due
    to the difficulty of negotiating with a weak, erratic head of state.

    <https://bsky.app/profile/nytpitchbot.bsky.social/post/3mid6ct3zlk2c>
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  • From Don@g@crcomp.net to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Apr 1 14:12:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:


    On 3/28/26 12:03, Lynn McGuire wrote:
    On 3/28/2026 2:43 AM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:
    -a-a-a-a MAGA:
    -a-a-a-a-a-a -- rCLSolar doesnrCOt work if the sun isnrCOt shining.rCY
    -a-a-a-a-a-a -- rCLWind turbines donrCOt work if the wind isnrCOt blowing.rCY
    -a-a-a-a Me:
    -a-a-a-a-a-a -- rCLOil doesnrCOt work if the Strait of Hormuz isnrCOt Hormuzing.rCY

    <https://bsky.app/profile/germanusa.bsky.social/post/3mi3ss2if2c2o>

    The crude oil works just fine in the USA as we are around net zero crude
    imports / distilled fluids exports.-a The Middle East crude oil goes to
    China, Europe, Japan, etc. with a little going to California.

    The number one crude oil producing nation is the USA at 14 million US
    barrels/day.-a Number two is still Saudi Arabia but they are dropping
    fast from their peak of 9 million US barrels/day in the 1990s.-a Russia
    is number 3, Iran or Venezuela or Iraq are 4, 5, and 6.

    All of the old crude oil super giant reservoirs are past their peak.
    Venezuela, China South, Saudi Arabia Ghawar (the only super super
    giant), Alaska North Slope, UK North Sea, Denmark North Sea, Norway
    North Sea, etc, etc, etc.-a The four new super giants in the USA (Eagle
    Ford and Permian Basin in Texas, one in North Dakota, one in
    Pennsylvania), are pumping 75 to 80% of the USA crude oil.

    Most of these are SWAGs.

    Lynn


    But oil is traded on the world's marketplace not on the
    national marketplace. So shortages in European supply mean
    that our prices will be higher. Asian prices again will climb
    and the cost of producing all that nice microchip stuff will
    climb along with the cost of shipping it back across the
    Pacific and to Europe.

    Petro-dollar usury steals the fruits of labor from productive workers
    to enrich Epstein empire building billionaires. The ascendancy of a
    petro-yuan untethered to the Epstein empire means war.
    Omnipotent Orwellian Oceania only happens when the evil Epstein
    empire controls all major sea lanes. Otherwise Oceania becomes a
    Pondian poser pulling the wool over its own eyes.

    It's not rocket science. This is rocket science:

    <https://x.com/Quadcarl/status/2037289422312419519>

    Danke,

    --
    Don.......My cat's )\._.,--....,'``. veritas _|_ telltale tall tail /, _.. \ _\ (`._ ,. liberabit |
    tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' vos |

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  • From Don@g@crcomp.net to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Apr 6 00:20:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    Daniel Goldsmith <dgold@dgold.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-03-29, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 18:50:06 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    On 3/28/2026 6:11 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

    On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 17:23:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    DidnrCOt your Government have to release some emergency reserves to
    keep things at that level? They canrCOt keep doing that indefinitely.

    Call me when the price hit $5.

    Stay tuned.

    It will take months to get those reserves out. And Biden sold off
    2/3rds of the reserves already.

    So it *would have* taken months to use up those reserves, if Biden
    hadnrCOt already got rid of most of them?

    National Average price (per the AAA) went above $4 on April 2.

    By today, April 4, it was already at $4.11.

    You can try to blame the last guy, but everyone knows *why* those prices
    at the pump are where they are, and it ain't coz he sold off the
    reserves.

    Everybody knows ...

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3LpLaWIrXQ>

    Danke,

    --
    Don.......My cat's )\._.,--....,'``. veritas _|_ telltale tall tail /, _.. \ _\ (`._ ,. liberabit |
    tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' vos |

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Sun Apr 5 21:24:05 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics



    On 4/5/26 17:20, Don wrote:
    Daniel Goldsmith <dgold@dgold.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-03-29, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 18:50:06 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    On 3/28/2026 6:11 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

    On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 17:23:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    DidnrCOt your Government have to release some emergency reserves to
    keep things at that level? They canrCOt keep doing that indefinitely. >>>>>
    Call me when the price hit $5.

    Stay tuned.

    It will take months to get those reserves out. And Biden sold off
    2/3rds of the reserves already.

    So it *would have* taken months to use up those reserves, if Biden
    hadnrCOt already got rid of most of them?

    National Average price (per the AAA) went above $4 on April 2.

    By today, April 4, it was already at $4.11.

    In California the price of Gas is over $6.00/gallon. People are buying
    used
    electric vehicles and people with hybrids are congratulating themselves and getting later models.


    You can try to blame the last guy, but everyone knows *why* those prices
    at the pump are where they are, and it ain't coz he sold off the
    reserves.

    I wonder where there is a reference to the alleged Biden sale. Trump blames
    Biden for all the problems caused by Trump (usually.)

    Everybody knows ...

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3LpLaWIrXQ>

    Danke,

    --
    Don.......My cat's )\._.,--....,'``. veritas _|_ telltale tall tail /, _.. \ _\ (`._ ,. liberabit |
    tells tall tales.. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.' vos |

    bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2026.03- Linux 6.12.80 pclos1- KDE
    Plasma 6.6.3
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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Apr 6 08:23:58 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    On Sun, 5 Apr 2026 21:24:05 -0700, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
    On 4/5/26 17:20, Don wrote:
    Daniel Goldsmith <dgold@dgold.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-03-29, Lawrence DAOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 18:50:06 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    On 3/28/2026 6:11 PM, Lawrence DAOliveiro wrote:

    On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 17:23:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    DidnAt your Government have to release some emergency reserves to
    keep things at that level? They canAt keep doing that indefinitely. >>>>>>
    Call me when the price hit $5.

    Stay tuned.

    It will take months to get those reserves out. And Biden sold off
    2/3rds of the reserves already.

    So it *would have* taken months to use up those reserves, if Biden
    hadnAt already got rid of most of them?

    National Average price (per the AAA) went above $4 on April 2.

    By today, April 4, it was already at $4.11.

    In California the price of Gas is over $6.00/gallon. People are buying
    used
    electric vehicles and people with hybrids are congratulating themselves and >getting later models.


    You can try to blame the last guy, but everyone knows *why* those prices >>> at the pump are where they are, and it ain't coz he sold off the
    reserves.

    I wonder where there is a reference to the alleged Biden sale. Trump
    blames
    Biden for all the problems caused by Trump (usually.)

    And last year I would have agreed with him.
    It generally takes a mosf of a year for the new guy's policies to take
    effect.
    But it isn't the first year any more ...
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From scott@scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Apr 6 16:54:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
    On Sun, 5 Apr 2026 21:24:05 -0700, Bobbie Sellers ><bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:


    I wonder where there is a reference to the alleged Biden sale. Trump=20
    blames
    Biden for all the problems caused by Trump (usually.)
    =20
    And last year I would have agreed with him.

    It generally takes a mosf of a year for the new guy's policies to take >effect.

    Past history is no guarantee of future results. No president has
    ripped apart everything like the orange clown has done.

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  • From Cryptoengineer@petertrei@gmail.com to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Apr 6 12:54:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    On 4/6/2026 12:24 AM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


    On 4/5/26 17:20, Don wrote:
    Daniel Goldsmith <dgold@dgold.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-03-29, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 18:50:06 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    On 3/28/2026 6:11 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

    On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 17:23:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    DidnrCOt your Government have to release some emergency reserves to >>>>>> keep things at that level? They canrCOt keep doing that indefinitely. >>>>>>
    Call me when the price hit $5.

    Stay tuned.

    It will take months to get those reserves out. And Biden sold off
    2/3rds of the reserves already.

    So it *would have* taken months to use up those reserves, if Biden
    hadnrCOt already got rid of most of them?

    National Average price (per the AAA) went above $4 on April 2.

    By today, April 4, it was already at $4.11.

    -a-a-a-aIn California the price of Gas is over $6.00/gallon.-a People are buying used
    electric vehicles and people with hybrids are congratulating themselves and getting later models.


    You can try to blame the last guy, but everyone knows *why* those prices >>> at the pump are where they are, and it ain't coz he sold off the
    reserves.

    -a-a-a-aI wonder where there is a reference to the alleged Biden sale. Trump blames
    Biden for all the problems caused by Trump (usually.)

    Everybody knows ...

    There's a chart here:

    https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_ending_stocks_of_crude_oil_in_the_strategic_petroleum_reserve

    It started to be drawn down at the end of 21', so yes, Biden.
    Lowest point was August 2023.

    pt


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  • From Bobbie Sellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Apr 6 10:30:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics



    On 4/6/26 08:23, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Sun, 5 Apr 2026 21:24:05 -0700, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

    On 4/5/26 17:20, Don wrote:
    Daniel Goldsmith <dgold@dgold.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-03-29, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 18:50:06 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    On 3/28/2026 6:11 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

    On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 17:23:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    DidnrCOt your Government have to release some emergency reserves to >>>>>>> keep things at that level? They canrCOt keep doing that indefinitely. >>>>>>>
    Call me when the price hit $5.

    Stay tuned.

    It will take months to get those reserves out. And Biden sold off
    2/3rds of the reserves already.

    So it *would have* taken months to use up those reserves, if Biden
    hadnrCOt already got rid of most of them?

    National Average price (per the AAA) went above $4 on April 2.

    By today, April 4, it was already at $4.11.

    In California the price of Gas is over $6.00/gallon. People are buying >> used
    electric vehicles and people with hybrids are congratulating themselves and >> getting later models.


    You can try to blame the last guy, but everyone knows *why* those prices >>>> at the pump are where they are, and it ain't coz he sold off the
    reserves.

    I wonder where there is a reference to the alleged Biden sale. Trump >> blames
    Biden for all the problems caused by Trump (usually.)

    And last year I would have agreed with him.

    It generally takes a mosf of a year for the new guy's policies to take effect.

    But it isn't the first year any more ...

    Well Trump's first year was 2016 and in 2017 he got a bill
    passed that was in effect during Biden's 4 years and into his own
    first year when he got the tax relief for the most well off people
    in the USA extended.

    As soon as the bill in 2017 was passed I knew from my past experience
    that we would suffer inflation. Then we had the Covid restrictions
    imposed in 2020. I lost good and friendly neighbors who worked in
    the hospitality industry in San Francisco because they could not
    work.
    I was really grateful for the supplemental payments to
    individuals but here we are in the Trumpian Inflation and now
    the dumb head goes ahead and starts on Iran. I don't use
    gasoline myself and my friend who drives me for shopping
    has a hybrid that he rarely fills up but nothing Trump has
    done nor which has been done by the incompetents with whom
    he has chosen to surround himself such as RFK, Jr. Kristi Noam,
    or Pam Bondi have done anything to alleviate this pain.
    Instead they have increased it and the policies of the
    Administration will further increase it. They even cut the COLA
    back for the Social Security recipients to save a little more
    money and deny Trumpian Inflation.
    I ate steak under Biden, but can barely afford hamburger
    under Trump.

    bliss
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  • From Bobbie Sellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Apr 6 10:35:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics



    On 4/6/26 09:54, Cryptoengineer wrote:
    On 4/6/2026 12:24 AM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:


    On 4/5/26 17:20, Don wrote:
    Daniel Goldsmith <dgold@dgold.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-03-29, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 18:50:06 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    On 3/28/2026 6:11 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

    On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 17:23:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    DidnrCOt your Government have to release some emergency reserves to >>>>>>> keep things at that level? They canrCOt keep doing that indefinitely. >>>>>>>
    Call me when the price hit $5.

    Stay tuned.

    It will take months to get those reserves out. And Biden sold off
    2/3rds of the reserves already.

    So it *would have* taken months to use up those reserves, if Biden
    hadnrCOt already got rid of most of them?

    National Average price (per the AAA) went above $4 on April 2.

    By today, April 4, it was already at $4.11.

    -a-a-a-a-aIn California the price of Gas is over $6.00/gallon.-a People are >> buying used
    electric vehicles and people with hybrids are congratulating
    themselves and
    getting later models.


    You can try to blame the last guy, but everyone knows *why* those
    prices
    at the pump are where they are, and it ain't coz he sold off the
    reserves.

    -a-a-a-a-aI wonder where there is a reference to the alleged Biden sale.
    Trump blames
    Biden for all the problems caused by Trump (usually.)

    Everybody knows ...

    There's a chart here:

    https://ycharts.com/indicators/ us_ending_stocks_of_crude_oil_in_the_strategic_petroleum_reserve

    It started to be drawn down at the end of 21', so yes, Biden.
    Lowest point was August 2023.

    pt

    Thank you for the URL and here is one for the USA. <https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2026/4/6/2376459/-What-will-he-screw-up-today>

    bliss



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  • From Tony Nance@tnusenet17@gmail.com to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Apr 6 16:27:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    On 4/5/26 8:20 PM, Don wrote:
    Daniel Goldsmith <dgold@dgold.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-03-29, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 18:50:06 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    On 3/28/2026 6:11 PM, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

    On Sat, 28 Mar 2026 17:23:10 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    DidnrCOt your Government have to release some emergency reserves to
    keep things at that level? They canrCOt keep doing that indefinitely. >>>>>
    Call me when the price hit $5.

    Stay tuned.

    It will take months to get those reserves out. And Biden sold off
    2/3rds of the reserves already.

    So it *would have* taken months to use up those reserves, if Biden
    hadnrCOt already got rid of most of them?

    National Average price (per the AAA) went above $4 on April 2.

    By today, April 4, it was already at $4.11.

    You can try to blame the last guy, but everyone knows *why* those prices
    at the pump are where they are, and it ain't coz he sold off the
    reserves.

    Everybody knows ...

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3LpLaWIrXQ>


    Very enjoyable tune. I slightly enjoy Concrete Blonde's version more.[1]
    - Tony
    [1] tiny url = https://tinyurl.com/3e4mkmcy
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  • From Bobbie Sellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Mon Apr 6 18:22:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics



    On 4/6/26 09:54, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
    On Sun, 5 Apr 2026 21:24:05 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:


    I wonder where there is a reference to the alleged Biden sale. Trump=20
    blames
    Biden for all the problems caused by Trump (usually.)
    =20
    And last year I would have agreed with him.

    It generally takes a mosf of a year for the new guy's policies to take
    effect.

    Trump ain't a new guy. He only has a new groups of yes men in his
    cabinet. The tariffs took horrendous effect right away. His tax cuts for
    the most well off took effect in 2018 and were renewed in the Big Ugly
    Bill, last year. Result is out of control inflation. I would give the
    rich
    tax cuts to the amount that their employees pay taxes and/or the amount
    they have invested in Tax Free USA/State/County and City bonds.
    The only reason we have Billionaires is we have such horrendous
    inflation. Kennedy started it with tax cuts from the Republican Eisenhower's
    very high tax rates. JFK was a rich man and he has friends who were also
    rich. Ronald Reagan promoted policies described as "trickle down economics"
    which took money from the poorest to benefit the most well off. Clinton
    fell for reducing the restrictions on banking and cutting welfare.
    Then the wars which benefitted the wealthy and their companies
    which the rich never paid adequate taxes to pay off government debt.


    Past history is no guarantee of future results. No president has
    ripped apart everything like the orange clown has done.

    No but some have denied the necessity of supporting the working class.
    Abraham Lincoln states clearly that all Capital is based on Labor.
    bliss
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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Apr 7 08:29:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    On Mon, 6 Apr 2026 18:22:07 -0700, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:


    On 4/6/26 09:54, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
    On Sun, 5 Apr 2026 21:24:05 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:


    I wonder where there is a reference to the alleged Biden sale. Trump=20
    blames
    Biden for all the problems caused by Trump (usually.)
    =20
    And last year I would have agreed with him.

    It generally takes a mosf of a year for the new guy's policies to take
    effect.

    Trump ain't a new guy.
    You are missing the point: Biden's policies continued on until Trump
    changed them.
    Granted, it didn't take nearly as long as it usually does.
    That's why I said "generally".
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From Bobbie Sellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Tue Apr 7 09:58:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics



    On 4/7/26 08:29, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Mon, 6 Apr 2026 18:22:07 -0700, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:



    On 4/6/26 09:54, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
    On Sun, 5 Apr 2026 21:24:05 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:


    I wonder where there is a reference to the alleged Biden sale. Trump=20
    blames
    Biden for all the problems caused by Trump (usually.)
    =20
    And last year I would have agreed with him.

    It generally takes a mosf of a year for the new guy's policies to take >>>> effect.

    Trump ain't a new guy.

    You are missing the point: Biden's policies continued on until Trump
    changed them.

    Granted, it didn't take nearly as long as it usually does.

    That's why I said "generally".

    The USAIDs was not a Biden policy and Trump with Musk's DOGE
    eviserated it. Many of the Agencies attacked were there long before
    Biden and will be restored even before Trump leaves office because he
    had no authority over those agencies like the VOA.
    Trump's name will be removed from everything but Toxic
    waste dumps. IMESHO.

    bliss

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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Apr 8 08:12:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    On Tue, 7 Apr 2026 09:58:34 -0700, Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:


    On 4/7/26 08:29, Paul S Person wrote:
    On Mon, 6 Apr 2026 18:22:07 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:



    On 4/6/26 09:54, Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
    On Sun, 5 Apr 2026 21:24:05 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
    <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:


    I wonder where there is a reference to the alleged Biden sale. Trump=20
    blames
    Biden for all the problems caused by Trump (usually.)
    =20
    And last year I would have agreed with him.

    It generally takes a mosf of a year for the new guy's policies to take >>>>> effect.

    Trump ain't a new guy.

    You are missing the point: Biden's policies continued on until Trump
    changed them.

    Granted, it didn't take nearly as long as it usually does.

    That's why I said "generally".

    The USAIDs was not a Biden policy and Trump with Musk's DOGE
    eviserated it. Many of the Agencies attacked were there long before
    Biden and will be restored even before Trump leaves office because he
    had no authority over those agencies like the VOA.
    Trump's name will be removed from everything but Toxic
    waste dumps. IMESHO.
    And you are still missing the point: I'm not talking about any old
    policy, I talking about that that /affect the prices people pay/.
    And, by "people", I mean the Rest of Us, not the 1%-ers.
    Indeed, to the extent that DOGE diverted Trump from worse economic
    policies than he managed to put into effect (the tariffs are a
    definite example here: even when reversed, those of us who paid them
    through higher prices will get no refunds [1]) it was a positive
    thing.
    And when its cuts closed the only employer in small towns in deeply
    Republican communities, crashing the local economy, it forshadowed the
    ongoing collapese of MAGA [2], which was cheering it on at the time.
    [1] On Nextdoor, one individual reported on her experience: she bought something online for $23, was billed by the shipper for $45 duty, paid
    the duty, and now has a letter from the shipper advising that the $45
    will be refunded. Well, as soon as the Feds cough it up, at least.
    Note that this does not cover the cost of collecting it or of
    refunding it. And that this was a duty collected as such rather than
    simply hidden in the cost of the item.
    [2] Loud-mouthed people with well-known names and reputations
    supporting conspiracies and MAGA are demanding that Trump be curbed.
    MTG is now the Voice of Reason, which as appalling as it is amazing.
    One wonders how long it will be before some /actual/ domestic
    terrorist group, one that has arms and isn't afraid to use them, takes
    Trump out. I hope the Secret Service is on its toes, and focusing on
    something other than "Antifa".
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Apr 8 11:31:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    [2] Loud-mouthed people with well-known names and reputations
    supporting conspiracies and MAGA are demanding that Trump be curbed.
    MTG is now the Voice of Reason, which as appalling as it is amazing.

    I can't figure out MTG. She seemed to be a very opinionated person with no education but who thought she knew how things worked and who sincerely wanted to fix problems.

    During her campaign she made a number of statements which made it clear that she didn't have a high-school understanding of history or diplomacy. She repeatedly talked about WWI while confusing it with WWII and then talking about how the US was never in WWI.

    It took her a while to realize that history wasn't what she thought it was and that the world didn't work the way her conspiracy-theory friends had told her. Once something like that happens, what can you do? It's a hell of a spot to
    be in.

    I blame all of these problems on poor elementary education. Because she is certainly not the only one whose understanding of history never reached the fifth-grade level.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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  • From William Hyde@wthyde1953@gmail.com to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Apr 8 15:14:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    [2] Loud-mouthed people with well-known names and reputations
    supporting conspiracies and MAGA are demanding that Trump be curbed.
    MTG is now the Voice of Reason, which as appalling as it is amazing.

    I can't figure out MTG. She seemed to be a very opinionated person with no education but who thought she knew how things worked and who sincerely wanted to fix problems

    During her campaign she made a number of statements which made it clear that she didn't have a high-school understanding of history or diplomacy. She repeatedly talked about WWI while confusing it with WWII and then talking about
    how the US was never in WWI.

    It took her a while to realize that history wasn't what she thought it was and
    that the world didn't work the way her conspiracy-theory friends had told her.
    Once something like that happens, what can you do? It's a hell of a spot to be in.

    Growing up in an environment where only one point of view is respected,
    all else regarded as evil propaganda, will result in silly assertions
    made with great confidence. But as you say, reality intervened, and she
    seems to be re-assessing some of her views.

    My guess is that the Epstein case was critical. She believed Trump's
    promise to release the full files and begin prosecution of the
    offenders, who she probably felt would mostly be her political opponents.

    But it became clear that Trump would move heaven and earth to keep the
    key parts of the files from public view, and that he had been lying, to
    her, all along. She had to wonder who he was protecting.


    Perhaps, once she knew that he had lied about this, she began to wonder
    what else he had lied about.


    I blame all of these problems on poor elementary education. Because she is certainly not the only one whose understanding of history never reached the fifth-grade level.

    I was having drinks with two intelligent friends in the US. Both went
    to good schools, and both were doing doctorates, but were about ten
    years apart in age. The subject of WWII came up, and the younger asked
    me "What did Canada do in WWII?". The other found it funny that anyone
    could ask such a question.

    Perhaps somewhere in that ten year period (68-78) things changed for the worse.


    William Hyde

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  • From scott@scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Apr 8 20:54:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> writes:
    Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    [2] Loud-mouthed people with well-known names and reputations
    supporting conspiracies and MAGA are demanding that Trump be curbed.
    MTG is now the Voice of Reason, which as appalling as it is amazing.

    I can't figure out MTG. She seemed to be a very opinionated person with no >> education but who thought she knew how things worked and who sincerely wanted
    to fix problems

    During her campaign she made a number of statements which made it clear that >> she didn't have a high-school understanding of history or diplomacy. She
    repeatedly talked about WWI while confusing it with WWII and then talking about
    how the US was never in WWI.

    It took her a while to realize that history wasn't what she thought it was and
    that the world didn't work the way her conspiracy-theory friends had told her.
    Once something like that happens, what can you do? It's a hell of a spot to >> be in.

    Growing up in an environment where only one point of view is respected,
    all else regarded as evil propaganda, will result in silly assertions
    made with great confidence. But as you say, reality intervened, and she >seems to be re-assessing some of her views.

    My guess is that the Epstein case was critical. She believed Trump's >promise to release the full files and begin prosecution of the
    offenders, who she probably felt would mostly be her political opponents.

    But it became clear that Trump would move heaven and earth to keep the
    key parts of the files from public view, and that he had been lying, to
    her, all along. She had to wonder who he was protecting.


    Perhaps, once she knew that he had lied about this, she began to wonder
    what else he had lied about.


    I blame all of these problems on poor elementary education. Because she is >> certainly not the only one whose understanding of history never reached the >> fifth-grade level.

    I was having drinks with two intelligent friends in the US. Both went
    to good schools, and both were doing doctorates, but were about ten
    years apart in age. The subject of WWII came up, and the younger asked
    me "What did Canada do in WWII?". The other found it funny that anyone >could ask such a question.

    Perhaps somewhere in that ten year period (68-78) things changed for the >worse.

    When I was a kid (and I'm of an age with you, I suspect), I was
    reading things like the Canfield Cook _Lucky Terrell Flying Stories_
    series (which had been passed down from my father and his brother)
    along side Tom Swift Jr, The Hardy Boys, etc.

    The Cook stories were about a Texan and a Canadian who volunteered
    for the RAF (before December 1941). So for those of our age,
    it (WWII) was only 25 years in the past, and there was quite
    a bit of pop culture (written and movies/television) and
    grade school history about WWII, that modern children haven't
    been exposed to.
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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Apr 9 08:21:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    On Wed, 8 Apr 2026 11:31:57 -0400 (EDT), kludge@panix.com (Scott
    Dorsey) wrote:
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    [2] Loud-mouthed people with well-known names and reputations
    supporting conspiracies and MAGA are demanding that Trump be curbed.
    MTG is now the Voice of Reason, which as appalling as it is amazing.

    I can't figure out MTG. She seemed to be a very opinionated person with no >education but who thought she knew how things worked and who sincerely wanted >to fix problems.

    During her campaign she made a number of statements which made it clear that >she didn't have a high-school understanding of history or diplomacy. She >repeatedly talked about WWI while confusing it with WWII and then talking about
    how the US was never in WWI.

    It took her a while to realize that history wasn't what she thought it was and >that the world didn't work the way her conspiracy-theory friends had told her. >Once something like that happens, what can you do? It's a hell of a spot to >be in.

    I blame all of these problems on poor elementary education. Because she is >certainly not the only one whose understanding of history never reached the >fifth-grade level.
    IIRC, she relied on QAnon a lot for her "facts" and attitudes.
    As to education, she apparently made it out of High School alive and
    earned a BBA from the University of Georgia.
    As to Trump, I suspect she realized that, since Trump no longer needs
    MAGA to get elected, he no longer cares what MAGA wants. Epstein
    surely influenced this, as you note, and Iran has no doubt
    strengthened her to the point that, as I noted above, she now appears
    as the Voice of Reason compared to Trump supporters/apologists.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Apr 9 17:32:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
    As to education, she apparently made it out of High School alive and
    earned a BBA from the University of Georgia.

    I guess that explains a lot.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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  • From William Hyde@wthyde1953@gmail.com to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Apr 9 18:05:23 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    Scott Lurndal wrote:
    William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> writes:
    Scott Dorsey wrote:
    Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

    [2] Loud-mouthed people with well-known names and reputations
    supporting conspiracies and MAGA are demanding that Trump be curbed.
    MTG is now the Voice of Reason, which as appalling as it is amazing.

    I can't figure out MTG. She seemed to be a very opinionated person with no >>> education but who thought she knew how things worked and who sincerely wanted
    to fix problems

    During her campaign she made a number of statements which made it clear that
    she didn't have a high-school understanding of history or diplomacy. She >>> repeatedly talked about WWI while confusing it with WWII and then talking about
    how the US was never in WWI.

    It took her a while to realize that history wasn't what she thought it was and
    that the world didn't work the way her conspiracy-theory friends had told her.
    Once something like that happens, what can you do? It's a hell of a spot to
    be in.

    Growing up in an environment where only one point of view is respected,
    all else regarded as evil propaganda, will result in silly assertions
    made with great confidence. But as you say, reality intervened, and she
    seems to be re-assessing some of her views.

    My guess is that the Epstein case was critical. She believed Trump's
    promise to release the full files and begin prosecution of the
    offenders, who she probably felt would mostly be her political opponents.

    But it became clear that Trump would move heaven and earth to keep the
    key parts of the files from public view, and that he had been lying, to
    her, all along. She had to wonder who he was protecting.


    Perhaps, once she knew that he had lied about this, she began to wonder
    what else he had lied about.


    I blame all of these problems on poor elementary education. Because she is >>> certainly not the only one whose understanding of history never reached the >>> fifth-grade level.

    I was having drinks with two intelligent friends in the US. Both went
    to good schools, and both were doing doctorates, but were about ten
    years apart in age. The subject of WWII came up, and the younger asked
    me "What did Canada do in WWII?". The other found it funny that anyone
    could ask such a question.

    Perhaps somewhere in that ten year period (68-78) things changed for the
    worse.

    When I was a kid (and I'm of an age with you, I suspect), I was
    reading things like the Canfield Cook _Lucky Terrell Flying Stories_
    series (which had been passed down from my father and his brother)
    along side Tom Swift Jr, The Hardy Boys, etc.

    I think the only novel I read with WWII content at that age was a late
    Tarzan novel, set in Indonesia. But it did emphasize the multi-national nature of the alliance. Also how bad hangovers are. Pity I didn't pay attention!


    The Cook stories were about a Texan and a Canadian who volunteered
    for the RAF (before December 1941). So for those of our age,
    it (WWII) was only 25 years in the past, and there was quite
    a bit of pop culture (written and movies/television) and
    grade school history about WWII, that modern children haven't
    been exposed to.

    It's true that I did learn a lot about WWI from the culture around me
    long before the topics were covered in school. The first thing I can
    recall reading was a graphic depiction of the battle of the Denmark
    strait - I can still recall the artwork. I must have been four or five
    (so before 1960).

    I can get quite curmudgeonly about this. Some decades ago at a family gathering I heard my nephew and some cousins, all in grade 10, saying
    that they would drop French.

    "Drop French!" I said, "Is that even allowed?".

    Sadly, it was.

    (French is an official language of Canada. You cannot rise very far in
    the civil service without being fluent in both languages, and the CEO of
    Air Canada just lost his job over this.)

    We were required to take English, French, Mathematics, Science, and gym
    to grade 12. Plus either History or Geography. You could petition to
    drop one of these (usually Mathematics) if a psychiatric assessment
    concluded that you would never pass. (Novelist Roberston Davies had an
    MA but no BA, as one math course was required and he was a severe
    mathophobe.)

    On the other hand we didn't have to spend any time learning how to use computers. Though some of us did (not I!).


    William Hyde
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Wed Apr 15 22:38:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    On Wed, 8 Apr 2026 15:14:38 -0400, William Hyde wrote:

    The subject of WWII came up, and the younger asked me "What did
    Canada do in WWII?". The other found it funny that anyone could ask
    such a question.

    Seems an entire nation gets its view of the world from its own movie
    and TV propaganda.

    For example, rCLSaving Private RyanrCY would have you believe that the USA conducted the D-Day invasion singlehandedly.
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  • From Paul S Person@psperson@old.netcom.invalid to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written on Thu Apr 16 08:34:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    On Wed, 15 Apr 2026 22:38:45 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D|Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 8 Apr 2026 15:14:38 -0400, William Hyde wrote:

    The subject of WWII came up, and the younger asked me "What did
    Canada do in WWII?". The other found it funny that anyone could ask
    such a question.

    Seems an entire nation gets its view of the world from its own movie
    and TV propaganda.

    For example, oSaving Private Ryano would have you believe that the USA >conducted the D-Day invasion singlehandedly.
    That didn't bother me as much as the clear effort to pose as another
    /The Longest Day/ before descending into a common small-unit action
    flick.
    /The Longest Day/, of course, did recognize the CW (and French
    underground) efforts. /A Bridge Too Far/ became ultimately all about
    the British (and the Free Poles), once it reached Arnheim.
    But that was too subtle for Spielberg.
    BTW, I double-checked the director on IMDb and found a description
    suggesting that somebody wasn't actually paying attention to the film.
    --
    "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
    Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
    Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
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  • From cloche@b@ki.ng to nz.politics,alt.politics.trump,rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.tv on Thu Apr 16 13:27:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.politics

    On Wed, 15 Apr 2026 22:38:45 -0000 (UTC)
    Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 8 Apr 2026 15:14:38 -0400, William Hyde wrote:

    The subject of WWII came up, and the younger asked me "What did
    Canada do in WWII?". The other found it funny that anyone could ask
    such a question.

    Seems an entire nation gets its view of the world from its own movie
    and TV propaganda.

    For example, rCLSaving Private RyanrCY would have you believe that the USA conducted the D-Day invasion singlehandedly.
    If you were historically deprived perhaps.
    Did these 'Murican films mean anything to you:
    WW2 Movies Directed by Clint Eastwood
    Flags of Our Fathers (2006): Focuses on the American side of the Battle of Iwo Jima and the lives of the soldiers who raised the flag on Mt. Suribachi.
    Letters from Iwo Jima (2006): Critically acclaimed film detailing the
    Battle of Iwo Jima entirely from the Japanese perspective.
    ~Fair and balanced.~
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