• That should do it

    From Gordon@Gordon@leaf.net.nz to nz.general on Fri Feb 13 06:34:55 2026
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    https://www.nbcnews.com/science/climate-change/epa-reverses-endangerment-climate-change-finding-rcna258452

    Now we will have the climate folks telling us that it all Trump's fault.

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  • From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to nz.general on Fri Feb 13 08:03:48 2026
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    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >https://www.nbcnews.com/science/climate-change/epa-reverses-endangerment-climate-change-finding-rcna258452

    Now we will have the climate folks telling us that it all Trump's fault.
    All intelligent people will support taking care of the planet, but that is and always will be a balancing act.
    What this announcement says however is correct. There is no scientific basis for the restrictions the greedy and power hungry have imposed and want to continue to impose on the world.
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  • From BR@blah@blah.blah to nz.general on Sun Feb 15 06:57:00 2026
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    On 13 Feb 2026 06:34:55 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/science/climate-change/epa-reverses-endangerment-climate-change-finding-rcna258452

    Now we will have the climate folks telling us that it all Trump's fault.

    Good for President Trump for putting an end to all the fraudulent
    climate nonsense.

    Bill.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.general on Sat Feb 14 22:27:22 2026
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    On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 06:57:00 +1300, BR wrote:

    Good for President Trump for putting an end to all the fraudulent
    climate nonsense.

    Did you know house-insurance premiums have been rising in Texas? If
    there is a beating heart of the rCLclimate change is a hoaxrCY ideology,
    Texas is at least one of them.

    But like I said before, you canrCOt get away from the fact that money
    talks, and the companies whose business it is to pay out on such bets
    are fully aware, ideology or not, that increased risks are no hoax.
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  • From wn@wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) to nz.general on Sun Feb 15 00:55:36 2026
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    On Sat, 14 Feb 2026, Lawrence<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    Did you know house-insurance premiums have been rising in Texas? If
    there is a beating heart of the rCLclimate change is a hoaxrCY ideology,

    Pshaw, currencies are inflating all over the world. Of course
    premiums go up -- so does everything else. Put in terms of gold,
    premiums have dropped. Beat it with your phoniness.

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  • From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to nz.general on Sun Feb 15 01:24:21 2026
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    Lawrence D Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 06:57:00 +1300, BR wrote:

    Good for President Trump for putting an end to all the fraudulent
    climate nonsense.

    Did you know house-insurance premiums have been rising in Texas? If
    there is a beating heart of the rCLclimate change is a hoaxrCY ideology, >Texas is at least one of them.

    But like I said before, you canrCOt get away from the fact that money
    talks, and the companies whose business it is to pay out on such bets
    are fully aware, ideology or not, that increased risks are no hoax.
    No surprise that you are seriously confused. There is zero evidence showing that mankind's activities have a major effect on climate. Nature is the culprit, not us.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.general on Sun Feb 15 02:17:38 2026
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    On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 00:55:36 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:

    On Sat, 14 Feb 2026, Lawrence<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    .
    Did you know house-insurance premiums have been rising in Texas? If
    there is a beating heart of the rCLclimate change is a hoaxrCY
    ideology,

    Pshaw, currencies are inflating all over the world.

    Local Fox news report:

    rCLMay 29, 2025
    Texas homeowners pay some of the highest insurance premiums in the
    country, and rates are increasing by double digits year over year. And thererCOs not much relief in sight from the Texas Legislature.rCY

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jle5WyhqVTs>

    I like the way they expect the Government to help them ... in Texas ...
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  • From wn@wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) to nz.general on Sun Feb 15 05:33:40 2026
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    On Sun, 15 Feb 2026, Lawrence D'Oliveiro<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 00:55:36 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Feb 2026, Lawrence<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    Did you know house-insurance premiums have been rising in Texas?
    Pshaw, currencies are inflating all over the world.

    Local Fox news report:
    rCLMay 29, 2025
    Texas homeowners pay some of the highest insurance premiums in the
    country, and rates are increasing by double digits year over year.

    So what, the highest premiums will be *somewhere*. So it happens to
    be in Texas, so what? Your "point" is pure BS. As expected from you.

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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.general on Sun Feb 15 05:51:28 2026
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    On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 05:33:40 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:

    So what, the highest premiums will be *somewhere*.

    The denial is strong in this one.
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  • From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to nz.general on Sun Feb 15 06:11:44 2026
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    Lawrence D Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 05:33:40 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:

    So what, the highest premiums will be *somewhere*.

    The denial is strong in this one.
    There is nothing to deny other than the lies you have gleefully swallowed from those making a fortune out of a myth.
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  • From BR@blah@blah.blah to nz.general on Mon Feb 16 05:08:53 2026
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    On Sat, 14 Feb 2026 22:27:22 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 06:57:00 +1300, BR wrote:

    Good for President Trump for putting an end to all the fraudulent
    climate nonsense.

    Did you know house-insurance premiums have been rising in Texas? If
    there is a beating heart of the oclimate change is a hoaxo ideology,
    Texas is at least one of them.

    But like I said before, you canAt get away from the fact that money
    talks, and the companies whose business it is to pay out on such bets
    are fully aware, ideology or not, that increased risks are no hoax.

    Any you can't get away from the fact that every climate disaster
    prediction put out by the alarmists in more than 50 years has failed
    to eventuate.

    Insurance companies are not atmospheric physicists or anything of the
    sort. They just hear the incessant drumbeat of the fake narrative in
    the media and elsewhere and it makes them nervous.

    Bill.
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  • From BR@blah@blah.blah to nz.general on Wed Feb 18 05:09:48 2026
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    On Sun, 15 Feb 2026 21:04:49 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Mon, 16 Feb 2026 05:08:53 +1300, BR wrote:

    Any you can't get away from the fact that every climate disaster
    prediction put out by the alarmists in more than 50 years has failed
    to eventuate.

    Ummm ... been paying much attention to the news lately? Entire
    countries sinking beneath the waves, that kind of thing?

    You watch the news? That explains a lot.

    Insurance companies are not atmospheric physicists or anything of
    the sort.

    Not that you seem to be paying much attention to the atmospheric
    physicists anyway, but ...

    Insurance companies have mathematically-skilled people called
    oactuarieso, who have to work out the odds of having to pay out on a
    policy, which is the basis on which they set their policy terms and
    premiums. Set payments too high, or provide inadequate cover, and
    customers will go to competitors; set them too low, or accept too many
    risky things, and the company loses money.

    So, because the insurance companies are singing from the same hymn
    book as the climate hustlers, the climate must be changing for the
    worse, and human activity is the main cause.

    That's your argument?

    In any computational algorithm garbage in = garbage out. If the
    information fed to the insurance underwriters is wrong, the
    calculations will be wrong.

    The insurance companies don't know how the weather will behave years
    into the future, AND NEITHER DOES ANYBODY ELSE!!

    So this is no idle guessing or ogiving in to fake narrativeso

    How do you know that? What does it matter to the insurance companies
    whether the threat is real or perceived? If it's real, their arses are
    covered. If it turns out to be false, then that's a bonus for them.

    The man made climate narrative is fake. There is no evidence for it
    whatsoever. It's all hearsay, speculation and fraud. It is impossible
    to measure, and no proof has ever been forthcoming.

    or
    anything ideologically wishy-washy like that: real money is involved,
    and the life or death of the business depends on getting it right.

    The climate is unpredictable despite what all the carbon hustlers
    would have you believe. You believe all the nonsense because it is
    what you have heard on the news. You have just admitted as much.

    Bill.
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