• Why pressing fill at some petrol pumps can lock up hundreds of dollars

    From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.general on Thu Jan 15 00:34:00 2026
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    An increasing number of filling stations no longer have human staff at
    all, or even shops -- just self-service pumps. Being in the habit of
    always filling up my tank, I have continued that with self-service.
    But here <https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360924432/pay-pump-nightmare-woman-paid-53-petrol-and-then-199-vanished-her-account>
    is a cautionary tale of customers who find that a hold has been placed
    on funds in their bank accounts, to the amount of hundreds of dollars,
    when they select the fill option. The balance is supposed to be
    released once the final payment has gone through, but sometimes this
    doesnrCOt happen immediately, and indeed may not happen for days.

    IrCOm assuming this applies to EFTPOS transactions, not credit cards. I
    donrCOt think they allow holds on funds like this on credit cards.
    ThatrCOs what IrCOve been using for paying at pumps, not my EFTPOS card.
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  • From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to nz.general on Thu Jan 15 02:02:19 2026
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    Lawrence D Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    An increasing number of filling stations no longer have human staff at
    all, or even shops -- just self-service pumps. Being in the habit of
    always filling up my tank, I have continued that with self-service.
    But here ><https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360924432/pay-pump-nightmare-woman-paid-53-petrol-and-then-199-vanished-her-account>
    is a cautionary tale of customers who find that a hold has been placed
    on funds in their bank accounts, to the amount of hundreds of dollars,
    when they select the fill option. The balance is supposed to be
    released once the final payment has gone through, but sometimes this >doesnrCOt happen immediately, and indeed may not happen for days.

    IrCOm assuming this applies to EFTPOS transactions, not credit cards. I >donrCOt think they allow holds on funds like this on credit cards.
    Yes they do and have done so for years.
    Most hotels, car hire companies etc. do it. Often for as long as a week. It makes obvious sense for that sort of company.
    ThatrCOs what IrCOve been using for paying at pumps, not my EFTPOS card.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oublespeak@ld0@nx.invalid to nz.general on Thu Jan 15 02:56:05 2026
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    Lawrence DrCOOliveiro wrote:

    An increasing number of filling stations no longer have human staff at
    all, or even shops -- just self-service pumps. Being in the habit of
    always filling up my tank, I have continued that with self-service.
    But here <https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360924432/pay-pump-nightmare-woman-paid-53-petrol-and-then-199-vanished-her-account>
    is a cautionary tale of customers who find that a hold has been placed
    on funds in their bank accounts, to the amount of hundreds of dollars,
    when they select the fill option. The balance is supposed to be
    released once the final payment has gone through, but sometimes this doesnrCOt happen immediately, and indeed may not happen for days.

    Nothing new. This hold on funds has been going on for decades.

    Here is a news article from 2014 where it mentions a $150 funds hold for credit card users: <https://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/editors-picks/9856048/Self-service-petrol-perplexes-some-customers>

    Here is a news article from 2017 where it mentions a $200 funds hold: <https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/100209785/heres-a-solution-to-kiwi-drivers-petrol-pump-pain>

    IrCOm assuming this applies to EFTPOS transactions, not credit cards. I donrCOt think they allow holds on funds like this on credit cards.

    Incorrect. They do allow it on credit cards.

    ThatrCOs what IrCOve been using for paying at pumps, not my EFTPOS card.


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  • From wn@wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) to nz.general on Thu Jan 15 03:04:37 2026
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    On Thu, 15 Jan 2026, Lawrence<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: ><https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360924432/pay-pump-nightmare-woman-paid-53-petrol-and-then-199-vanished-her-account>
    is a cautionary tale of customers who find that a hold has been placed
    on funds in their bank accounts, to the amount of hundreds of dollars,
    when they select the fill option. The balance is supposed to be
    released once the final payment has gone through, but sometimes this
    doesn't happen immediately, and indeed may not happen for days.
    I'm assuming this applies to EFTPOS transactions, not credit cards. I
    don't think they allow holds on funds like this on credit cards.

    Ha ha, yet another card-paying snafu. I pay cash, never a problem.

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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.general on Thu Jan 15 21:27:03 2026
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    On Thu, 15 Jan 2026 03:04:37 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:

    I pay cash, never a problem.

    I never noticed that any of those payment machines had a place to
    insert cash.
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  • From Gordon@Gordon@leaf.net.nz to nz.general on Fri Jan 16 00:18:42 2026
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    On 2026-01-15, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    An increasing number of filling stations no longer have human staff at
    all, or even shops -- just self-service pumps. Being in the habit of
    always filling up my tank, I have continued that with self-service.
    But here
    <https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360924432/pay-pump-nightmare-woman-paid-53-petrol-and-then-199-vanished-her-account>
    is a cautionary tale of customers who find that a hold has been placed
    on funds in their bank accounts, to the amount of hundreds of dollars,
    when they select the fill option. The balance is supposed to be
    released once the final payment has gone through, but sometimes this doesnrCOt happen immediately, and indeed may not happen for days.

    IrCOm assuming this applies to EFTPOS transactions, not credit cards. I donrCOt think they allow holds on funds like this on credit cards.
    ThatrCOs what IrCOve been using for paying at pumps, not my EFTPOS card.

    Hotels ask for your credit card as insurance against one doing a runner.

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  • From Gordon@Gordon@leaf.net.nz to nz.general on Fri Jan 16 00:20:46 2026
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    On 2026-01-15, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 15 Jan 2026 03:04:37 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:

    I pay cash, never a problem.

    I never noticed that any of those payment machines had a place to
    insert cash.

    So Wiily goes to places which do have a human in place.
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  • From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to nz.general on Fri Jan 16 01:42:20 2026
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    Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2026-01-15, Lawrence DrCOOliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Thu, 15 Jan 2026 03:04:37 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:

    I pay cash, never a problem.

    I never noticed that any of those payment machines had a place to
    insert cash.

    So Wiily goes to places which do have a human in place.
    That is far too complicated for Lawrence.
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