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" China accounted for 56% of global coal consumption last year (2024), consuming
92.2 exajoules, which is an increase of 66% from 2005, despite repeated predictions that China had already passed rCLpeak coal.rCY

Another source is 57% in 2025. China powers up, western world powers down slightly.

So China population is 1.8 billion, world population is 8.23 billion.
China's population is 18% of the worlds poulation but it burns 57% of the worlds coal, which is on a per capita basis 3.2 times the world average.

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On 7 Dec 2025 03:24:31 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/fossil-fuels/coal/coal-is-still-king-globally/

... despite repeated
predictions that China had already passed "peak coal."

Only idiots predict that, given that Europe continues to phase out its
own industry in favour of importing finished products from China. All
part of the civilizational suicide going on over there.

A recent meme:
European to Chinese man: "As per our goal, we are reducing our
industry by 50% by 2040. What are you doing?"
Chinese man to European: "As per our goal, you are reducing your
industry by 50% by 2040."

So China population is 1.8 billion,

Where did you get that? Not much over 1 billion, to my knowledge.

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On 2025-12-07 05:58:53 +0000, Willy Nilly said:

On 7 Dec 2025 03:24:31 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/fossil-fuels/coal/coal-is-still-king-globally/

... despite repeated
predictions that China had already passed "peak coal."

Only idiots predict that, given that Europe continues to phase out its
own industry in favour of importing finished products from China. All
part of the civilizational suicide going on over there.

A recent meme:
European to Chinese man: "As per our goal, we are reducing our industry
by 50% by 2040. What are you doing?"
Chinese man to European: "As per our goal, you are reducing your
industry by 50% by 2040."

American orange-faced man in a bad wig to European: We're not doing
anything, Nah! Nah! Nah! ;-)

So China population is 1.8 billion,

Where did you get that? Not much over 1 billion, to my knowledge.

As always, the figures vary from website to website, but in 2025/2025
it is reported as around 1.41 billion. It also depends on how "China"
is defined (disputed areas, Hong Kong counted or separate, etc.).


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On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 20:17:26 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
wrote:

On 2025-12-07 05:58:53 +0000, Willy Nilly said:

On 7 Dec 2025 03:24:31 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/fossil-fuels/coal/coal-is-still-king-globally/

... despite repeated
predictions that China had already passed "peak coal."

Only idiots predict that, given that Europe continues to phase out its
own industry in favour of importing finished products from China. All
part of the civilizational suicide going on over there.

A recent meme:
European to Chinese man: "As per our goal, we are reducing our industry
by 50% by 2040. What are you doing?"
Chinese man to European: "As per our goal, you are reducing your
industry by 50% by 2040."

American orange-faced man in a bad wig to European: We're not doing >anything, Nah! Nah! Nah! ;-)

And nor should they. Man made climate change is a fraud.

Bill.
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On 2025-12-07 15:41:32 +0000, BR said:

On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 20:17:26 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
wrote:

On 2025-12-07 05:58:53 +0000, Willy Nilly said:

On 7 Dec 2025 03:24:31 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/fossil-fuels/coal/coal-is-still-king-globally/


... despite repeated
predictions that China had already passed "peak coal."

Only idiots predict that, given that Europe continues to phase out its
own industry in favour of importing finished products from China. All
part of the civilizational suicide going on over there.

A recent meme:
European to Chinese man: "As per our goal, we are reducing our industry
by 50% by 2040. What are you doing?"
Chinese man to European: "As per our goal, you are reducing your
industry by 50% by 2040."

American orange-faced man in a bad wig to European: We're not doing
anything, Nah! Nah! Nah! ;-)

And nor should they. Man made climate change is a fraud.

Bill.

Yes and no. Humans continually pumping huge amounts of crap into the atmosphere and environment is obviously going to have an effect.
Whether it's the sole reason for 'Climate Change' is an entirely
different matter.



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Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

On 2025-12-07 15:41:32 +0000, BR said:

On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 20:17:26 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
wrote:

On 2025-12-07 05:58:53 +0000, Willy Nilly said:

On 7 Dec 2025 03:24:31 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/fossil-fuels/coal/coal-is-still-king-globally/

... despite repeated
predictions that China had already passed "peak coal."

Only idiots predict that, given that Europe continues to phase out its >>>> own industry in favour of importing finished products from China. All >>>> part of the civilizational suicide going on over there.

A recent meme:
European to Chinese man: "As per our goal, we are reducing our industry >>>> by 50% by 2040. What are you doing?"
Chinese man to European: "As per our goal, you are reducing your
industry by 50% by 2040."

American orange-faced man in a bad wig to European: We're not doing
anything, Nah! Nah! Nah! ;-)

And nor should they. Man made climate change is a fraud.

Bill.

Yes and no. Humans continually pumping huge amounts of crap into the >atmosphere and environment is obviously going to have an effect.

I doubt that it is any more than trivial when compared to the emissions produced by volcanoes.

Whether it's the sole reason for 'Climate Change' is an entirely
different matter.

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On 2025-12-07 21:31:25 +0000, Tony said:

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

On 2025-12-07 15:41:32 +0000, BR said:

On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 20:17:26 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
wrote:

On 2025-12-07 05:58:53 +0000, Willy Nilly said:

On 7 Dec 2025 03:24:31 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/fossil-fuels/coal/coal-is-still-king-globally/



... despite repeated predictions that China had already passed "peak coal."

Only idiots predict that, given that Europe continues to phase out its >>>>> own industry in favour of importing finished products from China. All >>>>> part of the civilizational suicide going on over there.

A recent meme:
European to Chinese man: "As per our goal, we are reducing our industry >>>>> by 50% by 2040. What are you doing?"
Chinese man to European: "As per our goal, you are reducing your
industry by 50% by 2040."

American orange-faced man in a bad wig to European: We're not doing
anything, Nah! Nah! Nah! ;-)

And nor should they. Man made climate change is a fraud.

Bill.

Yes and no. Humans continually pumping huge amounts of crap into the
atmosphere and environment is obviously going to have an effect.

I doubt that it is any more than trivial when compared to the emissions produced by volcanoes.

Volancoes, thermal vents, etc. are natural and big explusions are not
often occurences, so Mother Nature has leant over millennia how to deal
with. Human pollution, especially the massive increase in the last
couple of hundred years, is something very different and
near-continuous, much of that pollution isn't even natural substances.
Nuclear waste being the worst and most obvious example which can take thousands of years to fully get rid of.

Whether it's the sole reason for 'Climate Change' is an entirely
different matter.

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Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

On 2025-12-07 21:31:25 +0000, Tony said:

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

On 2025-12-07 15:41:32 +0000, BR said:

On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 20:17:26 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
wrote:

On 2025-12-07 05:58:53 +0000, Willy Nilly said:

On 7 Dec 2025 03:24:31 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/fossil-fuels/coal/coal-is-still-king-globally/

... despite repeated predictions that China had already passed "peak >>>>>>>coal."

Only idiots predict that, given that Europe continues to phase out its >>>>>> own industry in favour of importing finished products from China. All >>>>>> part of the civilizational suicide going on over there.

A recent meme:
European to Chinese man: "As per our goal, we are reducing our industry >>>>>> by 50% by 2040. What are you doing?"
Chinese man to European: "As per our goal, you are reducing your
industry by 50% by 2040."

American orange-faced man in a bad wig to European: We're not doing
anything, Nah! Nah! Nah! ;-)

And nor should they. Man made climate change is a fraud.

Bill.

Yes and no. Humans continually pumping huge amounts of crap into the
atmosphere and environment is obviously going to have an effect.

I doubt that it is any more than trivial when compared to the emissions
produced by volcanoes.

Volancoes, thermal vents, etc. are natural and big explusions are not
often occurences, so Mother Nature has leant over millennia how to deal >with. Human pollution, especially the massive increase in the last
couple of hundred years, is something very different and
near-continuous, much of that pollution isn't even natural substances. >Nuclear waste being the worst and most obvious example which can take >thousands of years to fully get rid of.

Hmmm, maybe. I am not convinced.
Volcanic eruptions are often measured in gigawatts of energy released and the science is clear, that energy has to do something and most of what it does is polute in one way or another.

Whether it's the sole reason for 'Climate Change' is an entirely
different matter.

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On Mon, 8 Dec 2025 09:34:19 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
wrote:

On 2025-12-07 15:41:32 +0000, BR said:

On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 20:17:26 +1300, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
wrote:

On 2025-12-07 05:58:53 +0000, Willy Nilly said:

On 7 Dec 2025 03:24:31 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/fossil-fuels/coal/coal-is-still-king-globally/


... despite repeated
predictions that China had already passed "peak coal."

Only idiots predict that, given that Europe continues to phase out its >>>> own industry in favour of importing finished products from China. All >>>> part of the civilizational suicide going on over there.

A recent meme:
European to Chinese man: "As per our goal, we are reducing our industry >>>> by 50% by 2040. What are you doing?"
Chinese man to European: "As per our goal, you are reducing your
industry by 50% by 2040."

American orange-faced man in a bad wig to European: We're not doing
anything, Nah! Nah! Nah! ;-)

And nor should they. Man made climate change is a fraud.

Bill.

Yes and no.

Yes and no? Either it is a fraud or it isn't. It can't be a fraud and
not be a fraud at the same time.

Humans continually pumping huge amounts of crap into the
atmosphere and environment is obviously going to have an effect.

How much of an effect? How can this effect be measured? If it can't be
measured then the whole narrative is nothing more than propaganda.

Whether it's the sole reason for 'Climate Change' is an entirely
different matter.

You see, you don't know, and neither does anybody else.

Bill.
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