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Under Hipkins, Labour are emerging from the legacy of the
Ardern-Robertson years:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360903716/labour-pledges-low-interest-loans-local-gps

Regardless of whether this will actually work or make any significant difference to healthcare provision, Labour are clearly thinking
'outside the box'. This will appeal to many, including those
traditional Labour voters turned off by the legacy of Ardern's
leadership. Labour are going after the same economic growth strategy
to get us moving forward.

So, Mr Luxon, be bold. Don't wait for your underlings to rescue your
faltering party support. Show that you have your own ideas that will
appeal to voters beyond disparaging Labour and their potential
Government partners.

That or quit now for someone who has leadership aspirations and more
courage than you do.
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Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

Under Hipkins, Labour are emerging from the legacy of the
Ardern-Robertson years:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360903716/labour-pledges-low-interest-loans-local-gps

Regardless of whether this will actually work or make any significant >difference to healthcare provision, Labour are clearly thinking
'outside the box'. This will appeal to many, including those
traditional Labour voters turned off by the legacy of Ardern's
leadership. Labour are going after the same economic growth strategy
to get us moving forward.

So, Mr Luxon, be bold. Don't wait for your underlings to rescue your >faltering party support. Show that you have your own ideas that will
appeal to voters beyond disparaging Labour and their potential
Government partners.

That or quit now for someone who has leadership aspirations and more
courage than you do.

--
Crash McBash

Here's hoping that somebody stands up. I don't think Luxon has the courage. Another Hipkins led government is almost guaranteed to further damage this country.
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On 2025-11-30 19:40:21 +0000, Tony said:

Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

Under Hipkins, Labour are emerging from the legacy of the
Ardern-Robertson years:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360903716/labour-pledges-low-interest-loans-local-gps


Regardless of whether this will actually work or make any significant
difference to healthcare provision, Labour are clearly thinking
'outside the box'. This will appeal to many, including those
traditional Labour voters turned off by the legacy of Ardern's
leadership. Labour are going after the same economic growth strategy
to get us moving forward.

So, Mr Luxon, be bold. Don't wait for your underlings to rescue your
faltering party support. Show that you have your own ideas that will
appeal to voters beyond disparaging Labour and their potential
Government partners.

That or quit now for someone who has leadership aspirations and more
courage than you do.

--
Crash McBash

Here's hoping that somebody stands up. I don't think Luxon has the courage. Another Hipkins led government is almost guaranteed to further damage this country.

It makes absolutely no difference which bunch of morons is in charge.
They *ALL* useless pillocks who do incredibly stupid things and waste
massive piles of tax-payer money.


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On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 19:40:21 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

Under Hipkins, Labour are emerging from the legacy of the
Ardern-Robertson years:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360903716/labour-pledges-low-interest-loans-local-gps

Regardless of whether this will actually work or make any significant >>difference to healthcare provision, Labour are clearly thinking
'outside the box'. This will appeal to many, including those
traditional Labour voters turned off by the legacy of Ardern's
leadership. Labour are going after the same economic growth strategy
to get us moving forward.

So, Mr Luxon, be bold. Don't wait for your underlings to rescue your >>faltering party support. Show that you have your own ideas that will >>appeal to voters beyond disparaging Labour and their potential
Government partners.

That or quit now for someone who has leadership aspirations and more >>courage than you do.


--
Crash McBash

Here's hoping that somebody stands up. I don't think Luxon has the courage. >Another Hipkins led government is almost guaranteed to further damage this >country.

We are beginning to see some green shoots in Labour. The
Ardern/Robertson leadership would never have considered the initiative
to incentivise GPs to invest in a new or existing cooperatively-owned practices. The policy has merit, but more importantly the thinking
behind it indicates new thinking typically not found in left-wing
political parties.
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Crash McBash
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On 2025-11-30, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

On 2025-11-30 19:40:21 +0000, Tony said:

Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

Under Hipkins, Labour are emerging from the legacy of the
Ardern-Robertson years:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360903716/labour-pledges-low-interest-loans-local-gps


Regardless of whether this will actually work or make any significant
difference to healthcare provision, Labour are clearly thinking
'outside the box'. This will appeal to many, including those
traditional Labour voters turned off by the legacy of Ardern's
leadership. Labour are going after the same economic growth strategy
to get us moving forward.

So, Mr Luxon, be bold. Don't wait for your underlings to rescue your
faltering party support. Show that you have your own ideas that will
appeal to voters beyond disparaging Labour and their potential
Government partners.

That or quit now for someone who has leadership aspirations and more
courage than you do.

--
Crash McBash

Here's hoping that somebody stands up. I don't think Luxon has the courage. >> Another Hipkins led government is almost guaranteed to further damage this >> country.

It makes absolutely no difference which bunch of morons is in charge.
They *ALL* useless pillocks who do incredibly stupid things and waste massive piles of tax-payer money.

That well maybe the case, however we need to work with what we have. How
about some critical thinking on the plan.
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On 2025-11-30, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 19:40:21 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

Under Hipkins, Labour are emerging from the legacy of the >>>Ardern-Robertson years:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360903716/labour-pledges-low-interest-loans-local-gps

Regardless of whether this will actually work or make any significant >>>difference to healthcare provision, Labour are clearly thinking
'outside the box'. This will appeal to many, including those
traditional Labour voters turned off by the legacy of Ardern's >>>leadership. Labour are going after the same economic growth strategy
to get us moving forward.

So, Mr Luxon, be bold. Don't wait for your underlings to rescue your >>>faltering party support. Show that you have your own ideas that will >>>appeal to voters beyond disparaging Labour and their potential
Government partners.

That or quit now for someone who has leadership aspirations and more >>>courage than you do.


--
Crash McBash

Here's hoping that somebody stands up. I don't think Luxon has the courage. >>Another Hipkins led government is almost guaranteed to further damage this >>country.

We are beginning to see some green shoots in Labour. The
Ardern/Robertson leadership would never have considered the initiative
to incentivise GPs to invest in a new or existing cooperatively-owned practices. The policy has merit, but more importantly the thinking
behind it indicates new thinking typically not found in left-wing
political parties.

Labour along with the Greens and TMP are not left wing (at this time). They have shifted into the authorian sector. Hitler was socialist before going
Nazi.

At the end of the day it matters not the label but rather their actions.

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Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

On 2025-11-30 19:40:21 +0000, Tony said:

Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

Under Hipkins, Labour are emerging from the legacy of the
Ardern-Robertson years:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360903716/labour-pledges-low-interest-loans-local-gps

Regardless of whether this will actually work or make any significant
difference to healthcare provision, Labour are clearly thinking
'outside the box'. This will appeal to many, including those
traditional Labour voters turned off by the legacy of Ardern's
leadership. Labour are going after the same economic growth strategy
to get us moving forward.

So, Mr Luxon, be bold. Don't wait for your underlings to rescue your
faltering party support. Show that you have your own ideas that will
appeal to voters beyond disparaging Labour and their potential
Government partners.

That or quit now for someone who has leadership aspirations and more
courage than you do.

--
Crash McBash

Here's hoping that somebody stands up. I don't think Luxon has the courage. >> Another Hipkins led government is almost guaranteed to further damage this >> country.

It makes absolutely no difference which bunch of morons is in charge.
They *ALL* useless pillocks who do incredibly stupid things and waste >massive piles of tax-payer money.

Maybe, maybe not, but the point is we need to ensure the best (or least worst) of a bad bunch are in power.
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On 2025-11-30 20:34:04 +0000, Gordon said:

On 2025-11-30, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

On 2025-11-30 19:40:21 +0000, Tony said:

Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

Under Hipkins, Labour are emerging from the legacy of the
Ardern-Robertson years:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360903716/labour-pledges-low-interest-loans-local-gps



Regardless of whether this will actually work or make any significant
difference to healthcare provision, Labour are clearly thinking
'outside the box'. This will appeal to many, including those
traditional Labour voters turned off by the legacy of Ardern's
leadership. Labour are going after the same economic growth strategy
to get us moving forward.

So, Mr Luxon, be bold. Don't wait for your underlings to rescue your
faltering party support. Show that you have your own ideas that will
appeal to voters beyond disparaging Labour and their potential
Government partners.

That or quit now for someone who has leadership aspirations and more
courage than you do.

--
Crash McBash

Here's hoping that somebody stands up. I don't think Luxon has the
courage. Another Hipkins led government is almost guaranteed to
further damage this country.

It makes absolutely no difference which bunch of morons is in charge.
They *ALL* useless pillocks who do incredibly stupid things and waste
massive piles of tax-payer money.

That well maybe the case, however we need to work with what we have. How about some critical thinking on the plan.

The "plan" is the just usual electionering 'lolly scramble' promise to
gain votes, that probably won't happen or be altered after being
elected, and if it does happen will spend piles of tax-payer money only
to be reversed by the next bunch of morons to get voted in anyway.


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On 30 Nov 2025 20:43:58 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

On 2025-11-30, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 19:40:21 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

Under Hipkins, Labour are emerging from the legacy of the >>>>Ardern-Robertson years:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360903716/labour-pledges-low-interest-loans-local-gps

Regardless of whether this will actually work or make any significant >>>>difference to healthcare provision, Labour are clearly thinking >>>>'outside the box'. This will appeal to many, including those >>>>traditional Labour voters turned off by the legacy of Ardern's >>>>leadership. Labour are going after the same economic growth strategy >>>>to get us moving forward.

So, Mr Luxon, be bold. Don't wait for your underlings to rescue your >>>>faltering party support. Show that you have your own ideas that will >>>>appeal to voters beyond disparaging Labour and their potential >>>>Government partners.

That or quit now for someone who has leadership aspirations and more >>>>courage than you do.


--
Crash McBash

Here's hoping that somebody stands up. I don't think Luxon has the courage. >>>Another Hipkins led government is almost guaranteed to further damage this >>>country.

We are beginning to see some green shoots in Labour. The
Ardern/Robertson leadership would never have considered the initiative
to incentivise GPs to invest in a new or existing cooperatively-owned
practices. The policy has merit, but more importantly the thinking
behind it indicates new thinking typically not found in left-wing
political parties.

Labour along with the Greens and TMP are not left wing (at this time). They >have shifted into the authorian sector. Hitler was socialist before going >Nazi.

At the end of the day it matters not the label but rather their actions.

OK - so I will change my last sentence: "The policy has merit, but
more importantly the thinking behind it indicates new ideology
typically not found in Labour/Green party".
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