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On Mon, 10 Nov 2025 20:51:48 +1300, Your Name wrote:

Two weeks early, like many many other greedy retailers ...

How dare they cut prices early to try to get an edge over other
retailers!!

They should all agree on a start date for Black Friday deals, and all
start discounting together!!! Make the punters pay full price until then,
so they canrCOt shop around!!!!!!!
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On 2025-11-10 21:03:30 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:

On Mon, 10 Nov 2025 20:51:48 +1300, Your Name wrote:

Two weeks early, like many many other greedy retailers ...

How dare they cut prices early to try to get an edge over other
retailers!!

They should all agree on a start date for Black Friday deals, and all
start discounting together!!! Make the punters pay full price until then,
so they canrCOt shop around!!!!!!!

A. There are near-continuous sales at many retailers, so if you're
paying full price you either need the item *right now* or are
an idiot. (This is especially true for places like Briscoes,
where they never sell items at the "normal" price, so may as
well just stop trying to con customers and just say "these are
our normal prices".)

B. Greedy retailers trying to move these events earlier and earlier
is why we get Christmas stock on shelves in August and Easter
eggs in January. :-\

C. There are actually "rules" for these 'special days'. Black Friday,
for example, is meant to be the Friday after US Thanksgiving, not the
whole month of November (some twits even started in October!).

D. Today is the equally silly "Singles Day", so they could just as
easily have used that as the excuse for their current "sale" and
then that would give them another excuse for a "sale" in two more
weeks time.


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On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 10:54:03 +1300, Your Name wrote:

A. There are near-continuous sales at many retailers ...

There are laws in NZ against that kind of bogus year-round rCLsalerCY. And the Commerce Commission does enforce the law.
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On 2025-11-10 22:27:45 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 10:54:03 +1300, Your Name wrote:

A. There are near-continuous sales at many retailers ...

There are laws in NZ against that kind of bogus year-round rCLsalerCY. And the
Commerce Commission does enforce the law.

Obviously not very well since many retailers have a near-continuous
sale. Briscoes being the most obvious, but there are others too.

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On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 12:34:51 +1300, Your Name wrote:

On 2025-11-10 22:27:45 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 10:54:03 +1300, Your Name wrote:

A. There are near-continuous sales at many retailers ...

There are laws in NZ against that kind of bogus year-round rCLsalerCY. And >> the Commerce Commission does enforce the law.

Obviously not very well since many retailers have a near-continuous
sale. Briscoes being the most obvious, but there are others too.

And yet you complain about it as rCLgreedy retailersrCY.
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On 2025-11-10 23:45:55 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 12:34:51 +1300, Your Name wrote:

On 2025-11-10 22:27:45 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 10:54:03 +1300, Your Name wrote:

A. There are near-continuous sales at many retailers ...

There are laws in NZ against that kind of bogus year-round rCLsalerCY. And >>> the Commerce Commission does enforce the law.

Obviously not very well since many retailers have a near-continuous
sale. Briscoes being the most obvious, but there are others too.

And yet you complain about it as rCLgreedy retailersrCY.

The two aren't connected. Plus, if they can sell them at the "sale"
price while still making a profit (which they mostly do), then
obviously the "normal" price is greedily excessive to begin with.

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On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 15:47:47 +1300, Your Name wrote:

On 2025-11-10 23:45:55 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 12:34:51 +1300, Your Name wrote:

On 2025-11-10 22:27:45 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 10:54:03 +1300, Your Name wrote:

A. There are near-continuous sales at many retailers ...

There are laws in NZ against that kind of bogus year-round rCLsalerCY. >>>> And the Commerce Commission does enforce the law.

Obviously not very well since many retailers have a near-continuous
sale. Briscoes being the most obvious, but there are others too.

And yet you complain about it as rCLgreedy retailersrCY.

The two aren't connected.

You previously said:

> Two weeks early, like many many other greedy retailers ...

If your idea of rCLgreedyrCY had nothing to do with the duration of sales, then what was it to do with?
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On 2025-11-11 04:47:22 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 15:47:47 +1300, Your Name wrote:

On 2025-11-10 23:45:55 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 12:34:51 +1300, Your Name wrote:

On 2025-11-10 22:27:45 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 10:54:03 +1300, Your Name wrote:

A. There are near-continuous sales at many retailers ...

There are laws in NZ against that kind of bogus year-round rCLsalerCY. >>>>> And the Commerce Commission does enforce the law.

Obviously not very well since many retailers have a near-continuous
sale. Briscoes being the most obvious, but there are others too.

And yet you complain about it as rCLgreedy retailersrCY.

The two aren't connected.

You previously said:

> Two weeks early, like many many other greedy retailers ...

If your idea of rCLgreedyrCY had nothing to do with the duration of sales, then what was it to do with?

I said *NEAR*-continuous sales

You said "year-round" sales.

There's a difference, which greedy retailers use to side-step the
supposed enforcing of the law.


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Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

On 2025-11-10 22:27:45 +0000, Lawrence D|Oliveiro said:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2025 10:54:03 +1300, Your Name wrote:

A. There are near-continuous sales at many retailers ...

There are laws in NZ against that kind of bogus year-round osaleo. And the >> Commerce Commission does enforce the law.

Obviously not very well since many retailers have a near-continuous
sale. Briscoes being the most obvious, but there are others too.

PB Tech is the Briscoes of the tech world.
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 10:57:31 +1300, Your Name wrote:

Doesn't really change the point that the original price was greedily excessive ...

So if they start discounting from that original price earlier in the year, doesnrCOt that reduce the time that they can charge the higher price? Is
that rCLmorerCY greedy, or rCLlessrCY?

"Competitive pricing" is largely a myth. All the store brands basically collude on a price.

The Commerce Commission has collected quite a few scalps on its belt from prosecuting such cases.

That's the first rule of greedy big business: scam your customer for as
much as money you can get away with.

Does early discounting help with that?
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On 2025-11-12 03:58:27 +0000, Lawrence D-|Oliveiro said:

On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 10:57:31 +1300, Your Name wrote:

Doesn't really change the point that the original price was greedily
excessive ...

So if they start discounting from that original price earlier in the year, doesnrCOt that reduce the time that they can charge the higher price? Is
that rCLmorerCY greedy, or rCLlessrCY?

Obviously less since they haven't been charging teh full excessive
price all along.

"Competitive pricing" is largely a myth. All the store brands basically
collude on a price.

The Commerce Commission has collected quite a few scalps on its belt from prosecuting such cases.

That only works when the companies actively collude on pricing. On most
cases the various brands simply match the prices of their competitiors.

As an example, yesterday I got an email about a Toyworld 20% off sale
on Thursday and, (no) 'surprise', in today's emails was The Warehouse
having a 20% off toys sale on Thursday as well. No doubt Farmers,
K-mart, etc. will all "suddenly" follow suit as well with their own 20%
off sales.

Another one is the supermarkets. Both Countdown/Woolworths and New
World used to release their weekly sales brochures on Sunday night. Now Woolworths waits until Monday so they can see what New World has done
and copy them. Sometimes one or the other will take a "massive" 1c more
off the price to make it appear to be a better deal (e.g. one
supermarket will have a price of $2 while the other uses $1.99).

That's the first rule of greedy big business: scam your customer for as
much as money you can get away with.

Does early discounting help with that?

Not really. They are still making massive profits at customer expense -
that's how big business works, that's how the managers get obscene pay
packets perks, that's how they can "sponsor" (i.e. tax write off)
community organisations, etc.

The most obvious example is wackjob Elon Musk is going to be paid US$1 trillion (assuming he "hits the targets"). That money comes from
somehwere ... it's called the customer. Even just sacking the looney
would save money (e.g. if they made 1 trillion products, reduce the
price by $1 each).

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