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On Thu, 13 Aug 2026, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

is the political incompetence that Luxon has displayed that is the
reason National may not be re-elected to lead the Government.

True, but there is a counter-point: This is first time that Luxon is
seen to be a strong leader, even if he actually isn't. That
perception may be worth an extra 1 or 2 percent of votes.

As for Chris Penk, I never even heard of him. Now he is gone. A
non-event. Maybe Simeon Brown can advance a placing now to be in
place the next time there is a challenge to Luxon. At least I've
heard of Brown, he looks a contender.

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On 2026-08-12, Willy Nilly <wn@nosuch.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

is the political incompetence that Luxon has displayed that is the
reason National may not be re-elected to lead the Government.

True, but there is a counter-point: This is first time that Luxon is
seen to be a strong leader, even if he actually isn't.

Yes it is a case of Luxon fighting to stay above water. It is personal. It
is not a strong leader it is a leader fighting for survival.

That
perception may be worth an extra 1 or 2 percent of votes.

That maybe the case.

As for Chris Penk, I never even heard of him. Now he is gone. A
non-event. Maybe Simeon Brown can advance a placing now to be in
place the next time there is a challenge to Luxon. At least I've
heard of Brown, he looks a contender.

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On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 21:59:36 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

is the political incompetence that Luxon has displayed that is the
reason National may not be re-elected to lead the Government.

True, but there is a counter-point: This is first time that Luxon is
seen to be a strong leader, even if he actually isn't. That
perception may be worth an extra 1 or 2 percent of votes.

So Luxon is a strong leader when threatened with dismissal. Pity he
does not demonstrate political strength to the same decisive degree.

National have done little to address balancing the books and reducing
debt currently at historic heights in both the amount and the
percentage of GDP.

As for Chris Penk, I never even heard of him. Now he is gone. A
non-event. Maybe Simeon Brown can advance a placing now to be in
place the next time there is a challenge to Luxon. At least I've
heard of Brown, he looks a contender.

Penk was incredibly stupid to try to put together a leadership
challenge at this point in the 3-year Parliamentary cycle. No-one
will sanely put up their hand to lead the party into the upcoming
election, but if National lose out then Luxon cops the blame and
rightly so, and there is a sane reason to challenge. If I recall
correctly, the Labour Party constitution requires a leader who loses
an election to face a subsequent caucus confidence vote.
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On 13 Aug 2026 08:33:38 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

On 2026-08-12, Willy Nilly <wn@nosuch.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

is the political incompetence that Luxon has displayed that is the
reason National may not be re-elected to lead the Government.

True, but there is a counter-point: This is first time that Luxon is
seen to be a strong leader, even if he actually isn't.

Yes it is a case of Luxon fighting to stay above water. It is personal. It
is not a strong leader it is a leader fighting for survival.

So 'fighting for survival' is the only time Luxon shows any strength
of leadership or conviction. In any other context he lacks credible
political convictions.

That
perception may be worth an extra 1 or 2 percent of votes.

That maybe the case.

As for Chris Penk, I never even heard of him. Now he is gone. A
non-event. Maybe Simeon Brown can advance a placing now to be in
place the next time there is a challenge to Luxon. At least I've
heard of Brown, he looks a contender.

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On 2026-08-14, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

On 13 Aug 2026 08:33:38 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

On 2026-08-12, Willy Nilly <wn@nosuch.com> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

is the political incompetence that Luxon has displayed that is the >>>>reason National may not be re-elected to lead the Government.

True, but there is a counter-point: This is first time that Luxon is
seen to be a strong leader, even if he actually isn't.

Yes it is a case of Luxon fighting to stay above water. It is personal. It >>is not a strong leader it is a leader fighting for survival.

So 'fighting for survival' is the only time Luxon shows any strength
of leadership or conviction. In any other context he lacks credible political convictions.

Agreed. Luxon is not a leader. He does not inspire one to get behind him. He is running the country as a business rather than leading it.

That
perception may be worth an extra 1 or 2 percent of votes.

That maybe the case.

As for Chris Penk, I never even heard of him. Now he is gone. A
non-event. Maybe Simeon Brown can advance a placing now to be in
place the next time there is a challenge to Luxon. At least I've
heard of Brown, he looks a contender.

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