https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/politics/903205/christopher-luxon-promises-mmp-referendum-if-re-elected-winston-peters-calls-it-a-power-grab
First off in my view I think that after 30 years MMP is starting to work,
the MP have to work with the other parties who after other views than the >"main" party.
People can see, or are start to that there is a post to get past but not THE >post. There is debate and the result is an agreement. As it should be in a >civilised society.
Luxon said
"The question I keep saying is, I don't need some yahoo or numpty from some >other party around that (Cabinet) table," he said.
My response is that these people, the yahoos and numpties exist in society >and one should be represented in Governent.
It does seem that NZ has not settled the issue of MMP even after 30 years
and several referenda each giving the same results.
Now, maybe it is time to have a referendum on whether of not we should
change the flag.
Time to adjust the party-vote threshold to 15% or higher, ensuring
that Parliament has parties that win an electorate or a substantial
portion of party votes.
On Thu, 06 Aug 2026, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:We basically had FPP with the last round of Liebour where Jabcinder
Time to adjust the party-vote threshold to 15% or higher, ensuring
that Parliament has parties that win an electorate or a substantial
portion of party votes.
Much more defensible to simply change over to Australia's preferential
system which is electorate-only and no party list. That should cater
for your concern, Crash. I fear, however, that Luxon's idea has been
worked out with Chippy, and would offer only a return to FPP. Only
the "stupid party" would offer such a naked power grab and not realise
that everybody will see right through it.
On Thu, 06 Aug 2026, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:Politically speaking, MMP is the worst thing that ever happened to New
Time to adjust the party-vote threshold to 15% or higher, ensuring
that Parliament has parties that win an electorate or a substantial
portion of party votes.
Much more defensible to simply change over to Australia's preferential
system which is electorate-only and no party list. That should cater
for your concern, Crash. I fear, however, that Luxon's idea has been
worked out with Chippy, and would offer only a return to FPP. Only
the "stupid party" would offer such a naked power grab and not realise
that everybody will see right through it.
On Thu, 06 Aug 2026, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
Time to adjust the party-vote threshold to 15% or higher, ensuring
that Parliament has parties that win an electorate or a substantial
portion of party votes.
Much more defensible to simply change over to Australia's preferential
system which is electorate-only and no party list. That should cater
for your concern, Crash. I fear, however, that Luxon's idea has been
worked out with Chippy, and would offer only a return to FPP. Only
the "stupid party" would offer such a naked power grab and not realise
that everybody will see right through it.
On Thu, 06 Aug 2026 20:30:12 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2026, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:You could be right - STV may well be better.
Time to adjust the party-vote threshold to 15% or higher, ensuring
that Parliament has parties that win an electorate or a substantial >>>portion of party votes.
Much more defensible to simply change over to Australia's preferential >>system which is electorate-only and no party list. That should cater
for your concern, Crash. I fear, however, that Luxon's idea has been >>worked out with Chippy, and would offer only a return to FPP. Only
the "stupid party" would offer such a naked power grab and not realise
that everybody will see right through it.
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2026 20:30:12 GMT, wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2026, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:You could be right - STV may well be better.
Time to adjust the party-vote threshold to 15% or higher, ensuring
that Parliament has parties that win an electorate or a substantial >>>>portion of party votes.
Much more defensible to simply change over to Australia's preferential >>>system which is electorate-only and no party list. That should cater
for your concern, Crash. I fear, however, that Luxon's idea has been >>>worked out with Chippy, and would offer only a return to FPP. Only
the "stupid party" would offer such a naked power grab and not realise >>>that everybody will see right through it.
And vote for a lot of bunnies you never want to see near the
government..
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