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So he we have a Bill which changes nothing in a practical sense, although Winston Peters probably agress to differ. Then the opposition instead of
just letting the process pass though the motions without fuss they all
create a hurricane in a tea cup.

A fine example of human nature in action.

Let us all hope that it passes and we can go back to debating some of the
more important issues of the day.
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On 6 May 2026 23:07:09 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/594503/what-is-the-english-language-bill-and-what-would-it-actually-do-in-new-zealand

Then the opposition instead of just letting the process pass though the motions
without fuss they all create a hurricane in a tea cup.

The opposition complaints delineate the precise reasons why this
measure *should* pass. Every complaint outlines a basis for
prejudicing against English when they achieve power. The USA's
"10 amendments" were similarly decried back in 1788 as being pointless
because those rights were already understood by everyone. But they
became bulwarks against subsequent attempts to infringe against those
rights, just as English will be infringed here without established
legal protection.

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Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/594503/what-is-the-english-language-bill-and-what-would-it-actually-do-in-new-zealand

So he we have a Bill which changes nothing in a practical sense, although >Winston Peters probably agress to differ. Then the opposition instead of
just letting the process pass though the motions without fuss they all
create a hurricane in a tea cup.

A fine example of human nature in action.

Let us all hope that it passes and we can go back to debating some of the >more important issues of the day.

I agree that there are some other very important matters but this is not a trivial thing at all.
Ensuring that English is an official language is a hugely important protection of our democracy. It should have happened many decades ago.
There are plenty of malcontents and greedies who want to diminish the importance of our most spoken and important language.
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On Thu, 7 May 2026 02:48:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/594503/what-is-the-english-language-bill-and-what-would-it-actually-do-in-new-zealand

So he we have a Bill which changes nothing in a practical sense, although >>Winston Peters probably agress to differ. Then the opposition instead of >>just letting the process pass though the motions without fuss they all >>create a hurricane in a tea cup.

A fine example of human nature in action.

Let us all hope that it passes and we can go back to debating some of the >>more important issues of the day.

I agree that there are some other very important matters but this is not a >trivial thing at all.
Ensuring that English is an official language is a hugely important protection
of our democracy. It should have happened many decades ago.
There are plenty of malcontents and greedies who want to diminish the >importance of our most spoken and important language.

They already have. I have seen various references over the years to
belittle English because it is not an official language, whereas Maori
and Sign language are. Consider those who wish to ban requirements
for English translation of Maori language on this basis. Consider
those that wish all Government department names to be exclusively
Maori.

This legislation places English on the same official level as Maori
and Sign languages.
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Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 7 May 2026 02:48:29 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/594503/what-is-the-english-language-bill-and-what-would-it-actually-do-in-new-zealand

So he we have a Bill which changes nothing in a practical sense, although >>>Winston Peters probably agress to differ. Then the opposition instead of >>>just letting the process pass though the motions without fuss they all >>>create a hurricane in a tea cup.

A fine example of human nature in action.

Let us all hope that it passes and we can go back to debating some of the >>>more important issues of the day.

I agree that there are some other very important matters but this is not a >>trivial thing at all.
Ensuring that English is an official language is a hugely important >>protection
of our democracy. It should have happened many decades ago.
There are plenty of malcontents and greedies who want to diminish the >>importance of our most spoken and important language.

They already have. I have seen various references over the years to
belittle English because it is not an official language, whereas Maori
and Sign language are. Consider those who wish to ban requirements
for English translation of Maori language on this basis. Consider
those that wish all Government department names to be exclusively
Maori.

This legislation places English on the same official level as Maori
and Sign languages.

Yes indeed, this is a vital piece of legislation.

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Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/594503/what-is-the-english-language-bill-and-what-would-it-actually-do-in-new-zealand

So he we have a Bill which changes nothing in a practical sense, although >>Winston Peters probably agress to differ. Then the opposition instead of >>just letting the process pass though the motions without fuss they all >>create a hurricane in a tea cup.

A fine example of human nature in action.

Let us all hope that it passes and we can go back to debating some of the >>more important issues of the day.

I agree that there are some other very important matters but this is not a >trivial thing at all.
Ensuring that English is an official language is a hugely important protection
of our democracy. It should have happened many decades ago.
There are plenty of malcontents and greedies who want to diminish the >importance of our most spoken and important language.

Hipkins " If Leibour is elected we'll reverse this "
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On Fri, 08 May 2026 08:40:43 +1200, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote: >>>https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/594503/what-is-the-english-language-bill-and-what-would-it-actually-do-in-new-zealand

So he we have a Bill which changes nothing in a practical sense, although >>>Winston Peters probably agress to differ. Then the opposition instead of >>>just letting the process pass though the motions without fuss they all >>>create a hurricane in a tea cup.

A fine example of human nature in action.

Let us all hope that it passes and we can go back to debating some of the >>>more important issues of the day.

I agree that there are some other very important matters but this is not a >>trivial thing at all.
Ensuring that English is an official language is a hugely important protection
of our democracy. It should have happened many decades ago.
There are plenty of malcontents and greedies who want to diminish the >>importance of our most spoken and important language.

Hipkins " If Leibour is elected we'll reverse this "

Labour needs the Maori vote desperately to reduce dependency on the
Maori Party.
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