• Covid vaccination debate

    From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to nz.general on Sat Apr 4 20:23:47 2026
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    This isn't goping away any time soon. https://waikanaewatch.org/2026/04/05/more-advice-was-ignored-by-hipkins-who-prioritised-vaccine-targets-over-safety/
    How can he argue that he never gave medical advice - it is on the record? That in itself is not the issue of course, all politicians do that sort of thing, the issue is he was the one "in charge" and now denies any culpability.
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  • From Mutley@mutley2000@hotmail.com to nz.general on Sun Apr 5 12:45:05 2026
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    Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

    This isn't goping away any time soon. >https://waikanaewatch.org/2026/04/05/more-advice-was-ignored-by-hipkins-who-prioritised-vaccine-targets-over-safety/
    How can he argue that he never gave medical advice - it is on the record? That
    in itself is not the issue of course, all politicians do that sort of thing, >the issue is he was the one "in charge" and now denies any culpability.

    What a pity Rich wasn't here . It would be interesting to hear his protection of one of his gods.
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  • From wn@wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) to nz.general on Sun Apr 5 01:11:33 2026
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    On Sun, 05 Apr 2026, Mutley <mutley2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
    What a pity Rich wasn't here . It would be interesting to hear his >protection of one of his gods.

    Lefties ignore facts, they just make up their own. He'd do that.

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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to nz.general on Sun Apr 5 01:52:27 2026
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    On Sun, 05 Apr 2026 01:11:33 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:

    Lefties ignore facts ...

    The whole of science is just a lefty liberal conspiracy to you people,
    isnrCOt it?
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  • From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to nz.general on Sun Apr 5 02:29:58 2026
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    Lawrence D Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 05 Apr 2026 01:11:33 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:

    Lefties ignore facts ...

    The whole of science is just a lefty liberal conspiracy to you people, >isnrCOt it?
    Start your own thread, this one is not about science.
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  • From wn@wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) to nz.general on Sun Apr 5 03:23:39 2026
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    On Sun, 5 Apr 2026, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 05 Apr 2026 01:11:33 GMT, Willy Nilly wrote:
    Lefties ignore facts ...

    The whole of science is just a lefty liberal conspiracy to you people, >isnrCOt it?

    As though you know anything about science. I can guess what you think
    science is, it's what Feynman called "Cargo Cult Science" where you
    have forms but no substance.
    Climate change? check. Cargo cult science.
    Covid vaccine? check. Cargo cult science.
    Water fluoridisation? check. Cargo cult science.

    Feynman explains that *actual* science must follow the scientific
    method, which none of the above do. So what is the scientific method?
    I'm going to tease you -- I won't tell you. Dupe.

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  • From Gordon@Gordon@leaf.net.nz to nz.general on Sun Apr 5 03:54:40 2026
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    On 2026-04-04, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    This isn't goping away any time soon. https://waikanaewatch.org/2026/04/05/more-advice-was-ignored-by-hipkins-who-prioritised-vaccine-targets-over-safety/
    How can he argue that he never gave medical advice - it is on the record? That
    in itself is not the issue of course, all politicians do that sort of thing, the issue is he was the one "in charge" and now denies any culpability.

    Politicans seldom say thay have made a mistake and say they are sorry. It is the nature of the beast.

    As the covid years wore on it became clear that the Government had only one tool in their tool box. Get a another booster. They never kept any doors open to allow real world development.

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  • From wn@wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) to nz.general on Sun Apr 5 04:59:57 2026
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    On 5 Apr 2026 03:54:40 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
    As the covid years wore on it became clear that the Government had only one >tool in their tool box. Get a another booster. They never kept any doors open >to allow real world development.

    Quite right, or as I posted on 20-Aug-2021:

    "21st century logic: When Plan A (vaccinate, vaccinate, vaccinate)
    fails, redouble on Plan A ! When Plan AA fails, go to Plan AAA !!

    Never consider other plans, like Plan B -- no no no.

    How about Plan D -- catch Delta COVID, which will give you the best
    immunity of all: Natural Immunity. That way, when the brutal "Xi"
    variant arrives, your excellent natural immunity will protect you and
    you'll get minor sniffles only.

    Or Plan H -- hope that Xi never happens. Hope hope hope...

    Then there's Plan X -- catch the Xi COVID infection, the monster.
    Bad plan? It's the same as Plan A. "

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  • From Branch Covidian@branch@covidian.virus to nz.general on Sun Apr 5 06:52:17 2026
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    Viruses don't exist. They are the biggest scam in history--even bigger scam than the fake moon missions.

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