• Q: Fibre connection keeps dropping out

    From BungleBob@bunglebob@thejungle.com to nz.comp on Sat Mar 7 11:24:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.comp


    I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline
    phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping
    out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.

    After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went
    through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
    modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
    the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but
    the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone.
    Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
    properly.

    I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
    new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
    directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it
    time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the
    ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?

    Thanks


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  • From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to nz.comp on Sat Mar 7 19:33:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.comp

    BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com> wrote:
    I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline
    phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping
    out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.

    After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went >through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
    modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
    the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the >internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but
    the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone.
    Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
    properly.

    I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
    new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
    directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it
    time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the
    ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?

    Thanks
    My guess is a setting in the modem.
    Are you confident enough to enter the modem settings?
    The ip address is almost certainly 192.168.1.1 and you will need to log in using the login code and password on the modem or a card that came with it. Each of your modems will have different pass codes.
    You will need to look at the settings in the old modem and find anything to do with telephone and then make the settings in the new modem the same.
    Your isp should give you explicit instructions on how to do this. Can you call them?
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  • From Crash@nogood@dontbother.invalid to nz.comp on Sun Mar 8 20:54:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.comp

    On Sat, 7 Mar 2026 11:24:40 +1300, BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com>
    wrote:


    I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline
    phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping
    out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.

    After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went >through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
    modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
    the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the >internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but
    the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone.
    Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
    properly.

    I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
    new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
    directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it
    time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the
    ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?

    Thanks

    There is really no risk that you will be charged a Chorus callout fee
    if you have problems with streaming reliability - Chorus can remotely
    diagnose and fix any ONT issues and if any visit is required to
    replace Chorus hardware then this is not a cost to you.

    Landline connections are now rare as most people have cell phone
    service. Most cell phone service providers offer very low cost
    calling plans - my plan is an $8 per month prepay plan that allows 100
    minutes per month to NZ and Oz numbers. The old objections to calling
    cell phone connections because of high calling costs is simply out of
    date. You really should revisit why you have a landline.
    --
    Crash McBash
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  • From BungleBob@bunglebob@thejungle.com to nz.comp on Mon Mar 9 10:35:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.comp

    On 2026-03-08 07:54:09 +0000, Crash said:
    On Sat, 7 Mar 2026 11:24:40 +1300, BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com>
    wrote:

    I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline
    phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping
    out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.

    After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went
    through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
    modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
    the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the
    internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but
    the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone.
    Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
    properly.

    I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
    new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
    directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it
    time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the
    ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?

    Thanks

    There is really no risk that you will be charged a Chorus callout fee
    if you have problems with streaming reliability - Chorus can remotely diagnose and fix any ONT issues and if any visit is required to replace Chorus hardware then this is not a cost to you.

    That's not what the ISP says. They say they will charge for someone to
    look at it. :-( That could well be their own tech staff rather than
    Chorus though.



    Landline connections are now rare as most people have cell phone
    service. Most cell phone service providers offer very low cost calling plans - my plan is an $8 per month prepay plan that allows 100 minutes
    per month to NZ and Oz numbers. The old objections to calling cell
    phone connections because of high calling costs is simply out of date.
    You really should revisit why you have a landline.

    I have no need for a cell phone. The landline is all I need, when it
    works properly. :-)


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  • From Crash@nogood@dontbother.invalid to nz.comp on Mon Mar 9 12:57:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.comp

    On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 10:35:37 +1300, BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com>
    wrote:

    On 2026-03-08 07:54:09 +0000, Crash said:
    On Sat, 7 Mar 2026 11:24:40 +1300, BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com>
    wrote:

    I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline
    phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping
    out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.

    After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went
    through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
    modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
    the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the
    internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but
    the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone.
    Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
    properly.

    I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
    new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
    directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it
    time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the
    ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?

    Thanks

    There is really no risk that you will be charged a Chorus callout fee
    if you have problems with streaming reliability - Chorus can remotely
    diagnose and fix any ONT issues and if any visit is required to replace
    Chorus hardware then this is not a cost to you.

    That's not what the ISP says. They say they will charge for someone to
    look at it. :-( That could well be their own tech staff rather than
    Chorus though.

    In respect of a Fibre connection dropping out, Chorus is most likely
    the service provider involved - they provide the connection and the
    ONT that terminates it. There may also be an issue with your router
    and the cable that connects it to the ONT.

    Your ISP has limited ability to provide technical support. Chorus
    will allow them to see ONT diagnostics and if your Router comes from
    your ISP they may well have some ability to look at the firmware
    settings. I have never heard of an ISP charging to look at ONT or
    Router diagnostics.

    If there is no explanation for drop-outs that is apparent, your ISP
    may well get Chorus to come out and check on the physical status of
    the ONT. If they find physical damage to the ONT or your Fibre cable
    you may well be charged by your ISP for the Chorus callout fee. In
    all other circumstances your problem should be resolved at no charge.
    The decision on a callout charge is not pre-determined, but a result
    of what Chorus find when they visit.

    If your ISP insists otherwise, it is time to switch to another ISP.

    Landline connections are now rare as most people have cell phone
    service. Most cell phone service providers offer very low cost calling
    plans - my plan is an $8 per month prepay plan that allows 100 minutes
    per month to NZ and Oz numbers. The old objections to calling cell
    phone connections because of high calling costs is simply out of date.
    You really should revisit why you have a landline.

    I have no need for a cell phone. The landline is all I need, when it
    works properly. :-)

    I thought that 5 years ago too, but changed to cell phone use when I
    could get a prepaid plan for less cost (just) than a VOIP landline.
    This explains the declining se of domestic land lines. I have come to
    value being able to make and receive calls away from home.
    --
    Crash McBash
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  • From BungleBob@bunglebob@thejungle.com to nz.comp on Mon Mar 9 17:48:38 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.comp

    On 2026-03-08 23:57:34 +0000, Crash said:
    On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 10:35:37 +1300, BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com>
    wrote:
    On 2026-03-08 07:54:09 +0000, Crash said:
    On Sat, 7 Mar 2026 11:24:40 +1300, BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com>
    wrote:

    I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline
    phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping >>>> out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls. >>>>
    After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went >>>> through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
    modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
    the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the >>>> internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but >>>> the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone.
    Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
    properly.

    I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the >>>> new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
    directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it >>>> time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the >>>> ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?

    Thanks

    There is really no risk that you will be charged a Chorus callout fee
    if you have problems with streaming reliability - Chorus can remotely
    diagnose and fix any ONT issues and if any visit is required to replace
    Chorus hardware then this is not a cost to you.

    That's not what the ISP says. They say they will charge for someone to
    look at it. :-( That could well be their own tech staff rather than
    Chorus though.

    In respect of a Fibre connection dropping out, Chorus is most likely
    the service provider involved - they provide the connection and the
    ONT that terminates it. There may also be an issue with your router
    and the cable that connects it to the ONT.

    They did send out a new modem/router. I tried both the old one and the
    new one, each with the old and new cables. The old modem/router works
    fine (with the exception of the dropouts, which may or may not be its
    fault). The new modem/router works fine for internet, but refuses to
    work with the landline phone. Pluggin the landline phone directly into
    teh appropriate ONT socket doesn't work either.

    There's obviously something a bit wacky going on. :-(

    At the moment the old modem/router is still being used so that we have
    a landline. The new modem/router will likely be sent back to the ISP
    before thay charge extra for having two.



    Your ISP has limited ability to provide technical support. Chorus will allow them to see ONT diagnostics and if your Router comes from your
    ISP they may well have some ability to look at the firmware settings.
    I have never heard of an ISP charging to look at ONT or Router
    diagnostics.

    If there is no explanation for drop-outs that is apparent, your ISP may
    well get Chorus to come out and check on the physical status of the
    ONT. If they find physical damage to the ONT or your Fibre cable you
    may well be charged by your ISP for the Chorus callout fee. In all
    other circumstances your problem should be resolved at no charge. The decision on a callout charge is not pre-determined, but a result of
    what Chorus find when they visit.

    If your ISP insists otherwise, it is time to switch to another ISP.

    I'd love to change. I utterly detest Slingshot and would ditch them in
    less time than it takes to say their name. Unfortunately I'm not the
    one who directly pays the bill, so that's not my choice.



    Landline connections are now rare as most people have cell phone
    service. Most cell phone service providers offer very low cost calling
    plans - my plan is an $8 per month prepay plan that allows 100 minutes
    per month to NZ and Oz numbers. The old objections to calling cell
    phone connections because of high calling costs is simply out of date.
    You really should revisit why you have a landline.

    I have no need for a cell phone. The landline is all I need, when it
    works properly. :-)

    I thought that 5 years ago too, but changed to cell phone use when I
    could get a prepaid plan for less cost (just) than a VOIP landline.
    This explains the declining se of domestic land lines. I have come to
    value being able to make and receive calls away from home.


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  • From Gordon@Gordon@leaf.net.nz to nz.comp on Wed Mar 11 00:12:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.comp

    On 2026-03-08, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Mar 2026 11:24:40 +1300, BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com>
    wrote:


    I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline >>phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping >>out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.

    After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went >>through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
    modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
    the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the >>internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but >>the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone. >>Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
    properly.

    I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
    new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone >>directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it >>time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the >>ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?

    Thanks

    There is really no risk that you will be charged a Chorus callout fee
    if you have problems with streaming reliability - Chorus can remotely diagnose and fix any ONT issues and if any visit is required to
    replace Chorus hardware then this is not a cost to you.

    Landline connections are now rare as most people have cell phone
    service. Most cell phone service providers offer very low cost
    calling plans - my plan is an $8 per month prepay plan that allows 100 minutes per month to NZ and Oz numbers. The old objections to calling
    cell phone connections because of high calling costs is simply out of
    date. You really should revisit why you have a landline.

    One small point to keep in mind. The Op contract is with the ISP. The ISP
    has offered to to supply a connection to the Internet and a VoIP "landline". How the ISP does this is is of no concern to the OP. As long as he pays the bills there is an expecation that the services will be provided.

    So the OP has to start the "nagging" to the ISP, not Chorus. Also do not let the ISP (the retailer) fob the OP to Chorus.
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  • From Gordon@Gordon@leaf.net.nz to nz.comp on Wed Mar 11 00:25:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.comp

    On 2026-03-07, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com> wrote:
    I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline >>phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping >>out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.

    After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went >>through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
    modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
    the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the >>internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but >>the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone. >>Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
    properly.

    I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
    new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone >>directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it >>time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the >>ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?

    Thanks
    My guess is a setting in the modem.

    My money is on this as well.

    Are you confident enough to enter the modem settings?

    It maybe best to see if the ISP can talk you through it (to get a VOIP ) up
    and running. This way you will not be accused of "interferring" and give the ISP a better chance of fixing it.

    Before changing anything see if yo can back up both of the modems settings. There should be an option to do this.

    The ip address is almost certainly 192.168.1.1 and you will need to log in using the login code and password on the modem or a card that came with it. Each of your modems will have different pass codes.
    You will need to look at the settings in the old modem and find anything to do
    with telephone and then make the settings in the new modem the same.
    Your isp should give you explicit instructions on how to do this. Can you call
    them?
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  • From BungleBob@bunglebob@thejungle.com to nz.comp on Wed Mar 11 17:38:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.comp

    On 2026-03-07, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com> wrote:
    I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline
    phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping
    out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.

    After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went
    through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
    modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
    the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the
    internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but
    the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone.
    Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
    properly.

    I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
    new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
    directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it
    time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the
    ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?

    Thanks

    My guess is a setting in the modem.

    Are you confident enough to enter the modem settings?

    The ip address is almost certainly 192.168.1.1 and you will need to log in using the login code and password on the modem or a card that came with it. Each of your modems will have different pass codes.
    You will need to look at the settings in the old modem and find anything to do
    with telephone and then make the settings in the new modem the same.

    Surely the modems should be set-up by default for a phone to be plugged
    in to make it easiest for the customer. If the customer is using a
    landline, it will work when plugging it in. If the customer is not
    using a landline, it'll make no difference to them. The instruction
    sheet that came with the new modem even says to simply plug in a phone!

    I've had no problems with other ISP's modems when connecting them for
    various people. This company is simply awful and I wish I could get rid
    off them.



    Your isp should give you explicit instructions on how to do this. Can you call
    them?

    Problem is of course that the phone doesn't work with the new modem.
    The only way around that would be to use the old modem to phone them
    up, write down all the instructions, and then plug the new modem in to
    make any changes.



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  • From BungleBob@bunglebob@thejungle.com to nz.comp on Wed Mar 11 19:45:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.comp

    On 2026-03-06 22:24:40 +0000, BungleBob said:

    I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline
    phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping
    out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.

    After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
    modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
    the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but
    the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone.
    Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
    properly.

    I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
    new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
    directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it
    time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the
    ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?

    Thanks

    Thanks to those who gave suggestions. We had to send the new modem back
    today before they charge use for having two.

    Not sure what to do about the drop-outs now though.

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  • From Tony@lizandtony@orcon.net.nz to nz.comp on Wed Mar 11 19:12:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.comp

    BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com> wrote:
    On 2026-03-07, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
    BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com> wrote:
    I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline
    phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping
    out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.

    After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went
    through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
    modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
    the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the
    internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but
    the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone.
    Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
    properly.

    I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
    new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
    directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it
    time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the
    ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?

    Thanks

    My guess is a setting in the modem.

    Are you confident enough to enter the modem settings?

    The ip address is almost certainly 192.168.1.1 and you will need to log in >> using the login code and password on the modem or a card that came with it. >> Each of your modems will have different pass codes.
    You will need to look at the settings in the old modem and find anything to >>do
    with telephone and then make the settings in the new modem the same.

    Surely the modems should be set-up by default for a phone to be plugged
    in to make it easiest for the customer.
    You would hope but that is not my experience with modem setup and telephones.
    I have seen phones cut off after 30 minutes use (Slingshot) - setting in the modem.
    And not working at all (can't remember the ISP), also a modem setting..
    If the customer is using a
    landline, it will work when plugging it in. If the customer is not
    using a landline, it'll make no difference to them. The instruction
    sheet that came with the new modem even says to simply plug in a phone!

    I've had no problems with other ISP's modems when connecting them for >various people. This company is simply awful and I wish I could get rid
    off them.



    Your isp should give you explicit instructions on how to do this. Can you >>call
    them?

    Problem is of course that the phone doesn't work with the new modem.
    The only way around that would be to use the old modem to phone them
    up, write down all the instructions, and then plug the new modem in to
    make any changes.

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  • From Crash@nogood@dontbother.invalid to nz.comp on Thu Mar 12 12:21:36 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.comp

    On 11 Mar 2026 00:12:02 GMT, Gordon <Gordon@leaf.net.nz> wrote:

    On 2026-03-08, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Mar 2026 11:24:40 +1300, BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com>
    wrote:


    I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline >>>phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping >>>out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.

    After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went >>>through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
    modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly >>>the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the >>>internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but >>>the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone. >>>Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works >>>properly.

    I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the >>>new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone >>>directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it >>>time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the >>>ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?

    Thanks

    There is really no risk that you will be charged a Chorus callout fee
    if you have problems with streaming reliability - Chorus can remotely
    diagnose and fix any ONT issues and if any visit is required to
    replace Chorus hardware then this is not a cost to you.

    Landline connections are now rare as most people have cell phone
    service. Most cell phone service providers offer very low cost
    calling plans - my plan is an $8 per month prepay plan that allows 100
    minutes per month to NZ and Oz numbers. The old objections to calling
    cell phone connections because of high calling costs is simply out of
    date. You really should revisit why you have a landline.

    One small point to keep in mind. The Op contract is with the ISP. The ISP
    has offered to to supply a connection to the Internet and a VoIP "landline". >How the ISP does this is is of no concern to the OP. As long as he pays the >bills there is an expecation that the services will be provided.

    So the OP has to start the "nagging" to the ISP, not Chorus. Also do not let >the ISP (the retailer) fob the OP to Chorus.

    You are correct - but the OP was concerned at a Chorus callout fee and
    that is what I was addressing.
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  • From Crash@nogood@dontbother.invalid to nz.comp on Thu Mar 12 12:25:46 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.comp

    On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 19:45:56 +1300, BungleBob
    <bunglebob@thejungle.com> wrote:

    On 2026-03-06 22:24:40 +0000, BungleBob said:

    I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline
    phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping
    out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.

    After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went
    through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
    modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
    the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the
    internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but
    the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone.
    Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
    properly.

    I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
    new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
    directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it
    time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the
    ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?

    Thanks

    Thanks to those who gave suggestions. We had to send the new modem back >today before they charge use for having two.

    Not sure what to do about the drop-outs now though.

    Report the problem to your ISP. There is a risk of a callout fee as
    covered elsewhere in this thread. That fee will only be charged if
    the drop-outs are caused by damage to the Fibre cable or ONT. If your
    LFC is Chorus then your ISP needs to report the problem to Chorus for
    action.
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  • From BungleBob@bunglebob@thejungle.com to nz.comp on Thu Mar 12 12:38:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.comp

    On 2026-03-11 23:25:46 +0000, Crash said:
    On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 19:45:56 +1300, BungleBob
    <bunglebob@thejungle.com> wrote:
    On 2026-03-06 22:24:40 +0000, BungleBob said:

    I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline
    phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping
    out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.

    After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went
    through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
    modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
    the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the
    internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but
    the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone.
    Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
    properly.

    I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
    new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
    directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it
    time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the >>> ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?

    Thanks

    Thanks to those who gave suggestions. We had to send the new modem back
    today before they charge use for having two.

    Not sure what to do about the drop-outs now though.

    Report the problem to your ISP.

    It was reported to the ISP. They went through all the usual things
    (switch off and on, check and replace cables, etc.), then decided the
    modem was "getting old" so sent out the new one, which didn't work with
    the landline phone. It's a hopeless ISP that isn't really interested in
    doing anything more than that, but it's not my decision to get rid of
    them. I can only hope this problem pushes the bill payer to finally
    swap to someone better. :-(



    There is a risk of a callout fee as covered elsewhere in this thread.
    That fee will only be charged if the drop-outs are caused by damage to
    the Fibre cable or ONT. If your LFC is Chorus then your ISP needs to
    report the problem to Chorus for action.


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  • From wn@wn@nosuch.com (Willy Nilly) to nz.comp on Fri Mar 13 05:50:07 2026
    From Newsgroup: nz.comp

    On Wed, 11 Mar 2026, BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com> wrote:
    I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
    new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
    directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.

    Just guessing, but the new modem may be set to "naked internet" which
    does not give a landline option. If so, the problem is ISP
    incompetence in configuring their factory-sourced modems, i.e., they
    no longer have employees who can do this. Again, just guessing.

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