I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landlineMy guess is a setting in the modem.
phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping
out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.
After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went >through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the >internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but
the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone.
Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
properly.
I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.
Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it
time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the
ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?
Thanks
I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline
phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping
out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.
After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went >through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the >internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but
the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone.
Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
properly.
I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.
Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it
time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the
ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?
Thanks
On Sat, 7 Mar 2026 11:24:40 +1300, BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com>
wrote:
I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline
phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping
out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.
After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went
through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the
internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but
the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone.
Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
properly.
I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.
Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it
time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the
ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?
Thanks
There is really no risk that you will be charged a Chorus callout fee
if you have problems with streaming reliability - Chorus can remotely diagnose and fix any ONT issues and if any visit is required to replace Chorus hardware then this is not a cost to you.
Landline connections are now rare as most people have cell phone
service. Most cell phone service providers offer very low cost calling plans - my plan is an $8 per month prepay plan that allows 100 minutes
per month to NZ and Oz numbers. The old objections to calling cell
phone connections because of high calling costs is simply out of date.
You really should revisit why you have a landline.
On 2026-03-08 07:54:09 +0000, Crash said:
On Sat, 7 Mar 2026 11:24:40 +1300, BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com>
wrote:
I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline
phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping
out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.
After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went
through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the
internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but
the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone.
Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
properly.
I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.
Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it
time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the
ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?
Thanks
There is really no risk that you will be charged a Chorus callout fee
if you have problems with streaming reliability - Chorus can remotely
diagnose and fix any ONT issues and if any visit is required to replace
Chorus hardware then this is not a cost to you.
That's not what the ISP says. They say they will charge for someone to
look at it. :-( That could well be their own tech staff rather than
Chorus though.
Landline connections are now rare as most people have cell phone
service. Most cell phone service providers offer very low cost calling
plans - my plan is an $8 per month prepay plan that allows 100 minutes
per month to NZ and Oz numbers. The old objections to calling cell
phone connections because of high calling costs is simply out of date.
You really should revisit why you have a landline.
I have no need for a cell phone. The landline is all I need, when it
works properly. :-)
On Mon, 9 Mar 2026 10:35:37 +1300, BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com>
wrote:
On 2026-03-08 07:54:09 +0000, Crash said:In respect of a Fibre connection dropping out, Chorus is most likely
On Sat, 7 Mar 2026 11:24:40 +1300, BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com>
wrote:
I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline
phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping >>>> out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls. >>>>
After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went >>>> through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the >>>> internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but >>>> the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone.
Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
properly.
I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the >>>> new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.
Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it >>>> time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the >>>> ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?
Thanks
There is really no risk that you will be charged a Chorus callout fee
if you have problems with streaming reliability - Chorus can remotely
diagnose and fix any ONT issues and if any visit is required to replace
Chorus hardware then this is not a cost to you.
That's not what the ISP says. They say they will charge for someone to
look at it. :-( That could well be their own tech staff rather than
Chorus though.
the service provider involved - they provide the connection and the
ONT that terminates it. There may also be an issue with your router
and the cable that connects it to the ONT.
Your ISP has limited ability to provide technical support. Chorus will allow them to see ONT diagnostics and if your Router comes from your
ISP they may well have some ability to look at the firmware settings.
I have never heard of an ISP charging to look at ONT or Router
diagnostics.
If there is no explanation for drop-outs that is apparent, your ISP may
well get Chorus to come out and check on the physical status of the
ONT. If they find physical damage to the ONT or your Fibre cable you
may well be charged by your ISP for the Chorus callout fee. In all
other circumstances your problem should be resolved at no charge. The decision on a callout charge is not pre-determined, but a result of
what Chorus find when they visit.
If your ISP insists otherwise, it is time to switch to another ISP.
Landline connections are now rare as most people have cell phone
service. Most cell phone service providers offer very low cost calling
plans - my plan is an $8 per month prepay plan that allows 100 minutes
per month to NZ and Oz numbers. The old objections to calling cell
phone connections because of high calling costs is simply out of date.
You really should revisit why you have a landline.
I have no need for a cell phone. The landline is all I need, when it
works properly. :-)
I thought that 5 years ago too, but changed to cell phone use when I
could get a prepaid plan for less cost (just) than a VOIP landline.
This explains the declining se of domestic land lines. I have come to
value being able to make and receive calls away from home.
On Sat, 7 Mar 2026 11:24:40 +1300, BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com>
wrote:
There is really no risk that you will be charged a Chorus callout fee
I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline >>phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping >>out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.
After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went >>through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the >>internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but >>the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone. >>Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
properly.
I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone >>directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.
Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it >>time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the >>ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?
Thanks
if you have problems with streaming reliability - Chorus can remotely diagnose and fix any ONT issues and if any visit is required to
replace Chorus hardware then this is not a cost to you.
Landline connections are now rare as most people have cell phone
service. Most cell phone service providers offer very low cost
calling plans - my plan is an $8 per month prepay plan that allows 100 minutes per month to NZ and Oz numbers. The old objections to calling
cell phone connections because of high calling costs is simply out of
date. You really should revisit why you have a landline.
BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com> wrote:
I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline >>phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping >>out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.My guess is a setting in the modem.
After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went >>through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the >>internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but >>the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone. >>Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
properly.
I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone >>directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.
Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it >>time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the >>ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?
Thanks
Are you confident enough to enter the modem settings?
The ip address is almost certainly 192.168.1.1 and you will need to log in using the login code and password on the modem or a card that came with it. Each of your modems will have different pass codes.--- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
You will need to look at the settings in the old modem and find anything to do
with telephone and then make the settings in the new modem the same.
Your isp should give you explicit instructions on how to do this. Can you call
them?
BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com> wrote:
I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline
phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping
out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.
After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went
through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the
internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but
the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone.
Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
properly.
I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.
Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it
time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the
ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?
Thanks
My guess is a setting in the modem.
Are you confident enough to enter the modem settings?
The ip address is almost certainly 192.168.1.1 and you will need to log in using the login code and password on the modem or a card that came with it. Each of your modems will have different pass codes.
You will need to look at the settings in the old modem and find anything to do
with telephone and then make the settings in the new modem the same.
Your isp should give you explicit instructions on how to do this. Can you call
them?
I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline
phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping
out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.
After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but
the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone.
Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
properly.
I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.
Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it
time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the
ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?
Thanks
On 2026-03-07, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:You would hope but that is not my experience with modem setup and telephones.
BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com> wrote:
I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline
phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping
out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.
After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went
through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the
internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but
the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone.
Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
properly.
I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.
Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it
time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the
ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?
Thanks
My guess is a setting in the modem.
Are you confident enough to enter the modem settings?
The ip address is almost certainly 192.168.1.1 and you will need to log in >> using the login code and password on the modem or a card that came with it. >> Each of your modems will have different pass codes.
You will need to look at the settings in the old modem and find anything to >>do
with telephone and then make the settings in the new modem the same.
Surely the modems should be set-up by default for a phone to be plugged
in to make it easiest for the customer.
If the customer is using a
landline, it will work when plugging it in. If the customer is not
using a landline, it'll make no difference to them. The instruction
sheet that came with the new modem even says to simply plug in a phone!
I've had no problems with other ISP's modems when connecting them for >various people. This company is simply awful and I wish I could get rid
off them.
Your isp should give you explicit instructions on how to do this. Can you >>call
them?
Problem is of course that the phone doesn't work with the new modem.
The only way around that would be to use the old modem to phone them
up, write down all the instructions, and then plug the new modem in to
make any changes.
On 2026-03-08, Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 7 Mar 2026 11:24:40 +1300, BungleBob <bunglebob@thejungle.com>One small point to keep in mind. The Op contract is with the ISP. The ISP
wrote:
There is really no risk that you will be charged a Chorus callout fee
I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline >>>phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping >>>out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.
After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went >>>through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly >>>the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the >>>internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but >>>the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone. >>>Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works >>>properly.
I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the >>>new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone >>>directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.
Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it >>>time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the >>>ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?
Thanks
if you have problems with streaming reliability - Chorus can remotely
diagnose and fix any ONT issues and if any visit is required to
replace Chorus hardware then this is not a cost to you.
Landline connections are now rare as most people have cell phone
service. Most cell phone service providers offer very low cost
calling plans - my plan is an $8 per month prepay plan that allows 100
minutes per month to NZ and Oz numbers. The old objections to calling
cell phone connections because of high calling costs is simply out of
date. You really should revisit why you have a landline.
has offered to to supply a connection to the Internet and a VoIP "landline". >How the ISP does this is is of no concern to the OP. As long as he pays the >bills there is an expecation that the services will be provided.
So the OP has to start the "nagging" to the ISP, not Chorus. Also do not let >the ISP (the retailer) fob the OP to Chorus.
On 2026-03-06 22:24:40 +0000, BungleBob said:
I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline
phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping
out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.
After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went
through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the
internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but
the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone.
Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
properly.
I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.
Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it
time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the
ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?
Thanks
Thanks to those who gave suggestions. We had to send the new modem back >today before they charge use for having two.
Not sure what to do about the drop-outs now though.
On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 19:45:56 +1300, BungleBob
<bunglebob@thejungle.com> wrote:
On 2026-03-06 22:24:40 +0000, BungleBob said:
I have a fibre connection using the ISP-supplied modem and a landline
phone plugged into it. For a while now the connection has been dropping
out, causing pauses in streaming video and dropped landline phonecalls.
After phoning the ISP's helpdesk, they ran their usual checks and went
through the usual "switch it off and on" routines, and decided the
modem was "getting old" and sent out a new modem, which looks exactly
the same. Plugging the new modem into all the cables works fine for the
internet, although not used long enough to know about the dropouts, but
the landline phone just beeps when picking it up with no dial tone.
Plugging everything back the old modem means the landline works
properly.
I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.
Does anyone have any suggestions for what we might have missed or is it
time to pay the expensive call out fee for Chorus to come and check the >>> ONT box connections to see if that is causing the dropouts?
Thanks
Thanks to those who gave suggestions. We had to send the new modem back
today before they charge use for having two.
Not sure what to do about the drop-outs now though.
Report the problem to your ISP.
There is a risk of a callout fee as covered elsewhere in this thread.
That fee will only be charged if the drop-outs are caused by damage to
the Fibre cable or ONT. If your LFC is Chorus then your ISP needs to
report the problem to Chorus for action.
I've tried using both the old cables and the cables that came with the
new modem, but it makes no difference. Plugging the landline phone
directly into the ONT box also means it just beeps.
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