• No Peace In Middle East Until Israel Stops Its Killing Spree

    From NefeshBarYochai@void@invalid.noy to soc.culture.israel,can.politics,nyc.politics,aus.politics,rec.arts.tv on Mon Aug 3 00:47:50 2026
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    On July 17, NBC News televised portions of a lengthy investigation
    proving that Israeli military forces had attacked medics at least 116
    times in South Lebanon over the last several months.

    On that same day, Reuters reported that eight people were killed and
    20 others were wounded when Israeli planes carried out an air strike
    against mourners attending a funeral in Gaza.

    Most of the military equipment, guns, bullets, planes and tanks used
    to kill defenseless people over the last several years have been paid
    for by U.S. taxpayers.

    According to AI, Israel has killed over 4,200 people in Lebanon and
    over 1,100 in Gaza since the last so-called ceasefire began last
    October.

    Of course, Israeli Defense Forces killed at least 72,000 Palestinians
    in the two years beginning on Oct. 7, 2023 with about one-third being
    children ages 14 and under. Many were killed by forced starvation or amputations being done without anesthesia or in filthy conditions.

    If this genocide had been carried out by any country other than
    Israel, both parties in Congress would have rushed to pass a
    resolution of condemnation and would have stopped sending American tax
    funds to support it.

    However, silence has been bought and paid for in Congress by the
    Israel Lobby and members of Congress in gratitude for huge
    contributions in their favor or fear of contributions against them.

    Also, many Christians have remained silent, even though horrified by
    all the killing and starvation, because the Bible says to bless
    Israel. But it does not say to bless everything the politicians of
    Israel do.

    Almost every American Christian is grateful to live in this Country
    and sometimes has asked God to bless this Nation either in song or
    prayer or both. But you certainly can ask God to bless this Country
    (or Israel) while still opposing some of what the U.S. Congress (or
    Israel Knesset) is doing or has done.

    Also, some are afraid to criticize Israel for fear of being called
    anti-Semitic although Palestinians are Semitic, too. And, according to
    AI, God Himself "frequently and severely criticized Israel for turning
    away from Him, engaging in idolatry, and mistreating the vulnerable."

    Although while still a minority, a few million Jews around the world
    have criticized Netanyahu and/or all the bombing and killing his
    government has done in Gaza and surrounding countries.

    Thomas Friedman, the longtime Jewish columnist, wrote last year that
    "Netanyahu is not our friend" and added: "This Israeli government is
    behaving in ways that threaten hard-core U.S. interests in the
    region."

    Now, Israel has dragged us into another war in the Middle East to
    which about 70% of Americans were opposed.

    John Mearsheimer, a West Point graduate and longtime highly-respected University of Chicago professor, said this about the unpopular war in
    Iran:

    Israel wants to continue the war. They want us to continue hammering
    away at Iran, to beat them into submission. And if we can't beat them
    into submission, we'll, we'll just destroy them and do what we did in
    Gaza to Iran.

    Many years ago, David Halberstam wrote in Harper's Magazine words
    about Vietnam that I think we should apply to the Middle East today:

    I do not think we are winning in any true sense, nor do I see any
    signs that we are about to win. That is why this is such a sad story
    to write.

    He added:

    I do not think our Vietnamese can win their part of the war, nor do I
    think we can win it for them. I think we will finally end up lowering
    our sights, encouraging our Vietnamese to talk to their Vietnamese,
    hoping that somehow they can settle what we cannot.

    No matter how many bombs we drop or how many billions we spend, there
    will never be peace in the Middle East unless and until we get out of
    the way and force the people there to talk to each other and work
    things out themselves. We cannot do it for them.

    https://www.congressmanduncan.com/article.html?article=no-peace-in-middle-east-until-israel-stops-its-killing-spree


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  • From Rod Speed@rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com to soc.culture.israel,can.politics,nyc.politics,aus.politics,rec.arts.tv on Mon Aug 3 15:42:49 2026
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    NefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy> wrote

    There will never be any peace there regardless of what Israel does
    even if the rag heads do manage to push all the jews into the sea

    On July 17, NBC News televised portions of a lengthy investigation
    proving that Israeli military forces had attacked medics at least 116
    times in South Lebanon over the last several months.

    On that same day, Reuters reported that eight people were killed and
    20 others were wounded when Israeli planes carried out an air strike
    against mourners attending a funeral in Gaza.

    Most of the military equipment, guns, bullets, planes and tanks used
    to kill defenseless people over the last several years have been paid
    for by U.S. taxpayers.

    According to AI, Israel has killed over 4,200 people in Lebanon and
    over 1,100 in Gaza since the last so-called ceasefire began last
    October.

    Of course, Israeli Defense Forces killed at least 72,000 Palestinians
    in the two years beginning on Oct. 7, 2023 with about one-third being children ages 14 and under. Many were killed by forced starvation or amputations being done without anesthesia or in filthy conditions.

    If this genocide had been carried out by any country other than
    Israel, both parties in Congress would have rushed to pass a
    resolution of condemnation and would have stopped sending American tax
    funds to support it.

    However, silence has been bought and paid for in Congress by the
    Israel Lobby and members of Congress in gratitude for huge
    contributions in their favor or fear of contributions against them.

    Also, many Christians have remained silent, even though horrified by
    all the killing and starvation, because the Bible says to bless
    Israel. But it does not say to bless everything the politicians of
    Israel do.

    Almost every American Christian is grateful to live in this Country
    and sometimes has asked God to bless this Nation either in song or
    prayer or both. But you certainly can ask God to bless this Country
    (or Israel) while still opposing some of what the U.S. Congress (or
    Israel Knesset) is doing or has done.

    Also, some are afraid to criticize Israel for fear of being called anti-Semitic although Palestinians are Semitic, too. And, according to
    AI, God Himself "frequently and severely criticized Israel for turning
    away from Him, engaging in idolatry, and mistreating the vulnerable."

    Although while still a minority, a few million Jews around the world
    have criticized Netanyahu and/or all the bombing and killing his
    government has done in Gaza and surrounding countries.

    Thomas Friedman, the longtime Jewish columnist, wrote last year that "Netanyahu is not our friend" and added: "This Israeli government is
    behaving in ways that threaten hard-core U.S. interests in the
    region."

    Now, Israel has dragged us into another war in the Middle East to
    which about 70% of Americans were opposed.

    John Mearsheimer, a West Point graduate and longtime highly-respected University of Chicago professor, said this about the unpopular war in
    Iran:

    Israel wants to continue the war. They want us to continue hammering
    away at Iran, to beat them into submission. And if we can't beat them
    into submission, we'll, we'll just destroy them and do what we did in
    Gaza to Iran.

    Many years ago, David Halberstam wrote in Harper's Magazine words
    about Vietnam that I think we should apply to the Middle East today:

    I do not think we are winning in any true sense, nor do I see any
    signs that we are about to win. That is why this is such a sad story
    to write.

    He added:

    I do not think our Vietnamese can win their part of the war, nor do I
    think we can win it for them. I think we will finally end up lowering
    our sights, encouraging our Vietnamese to talk to their Vietnamese,
    hoping that somehow they can settle what we cannot.

    No matter how many bombs we drop or how many billions we spend, there
    will never be peace in the Middle East unless and until we get out of
    the way and force the people there to talk to each other and work
    things out themselves. We cannot do it for them.

    https://www.congressmanduncan.com/article.html?article=no-peace-in-middle-east-until-israel-stops-its-killing-spree

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