• Need Replacement For RSSOwl

    From Bill Bradshaw@bradshaw@gci.net to news.software.readers on Tue Oct 21 14:25:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: news.software.readers

    Been using on my computer but will not work on a new computer. Appears to
    be a JAVA problem with FireFox dumping it. Any suggestions for a
    replacement?
    --
    <Bill>

    Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska


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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to news.software.readers on Tue Oct 21 18:29:11 2025
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    Bill Bradshaw <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote:

    Been using on my computer but will not work on a new computer.
    Appears to be a JAVA problem with FireFox dumping it. Any
    suggestions for a replacement?

    From https://www.rssowl.org/, it notes the JRE (Java Runtime
    Environment, basically the runtime library for Java) must be present, so
    you may have to install it separately. "Computer" doesn't identify the
    OS. Java hasn't been bundled on Windows for a long time. You would
    have to visit Oracle to get the latest JRE. The RSSowl site points to https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp. You don't need the much
    larger JDK (Java Development Kit), just the JRE.

    Don't know what Firefox has to do with RSSOwl which looks to be a Java application, not a Java-based web app. While Firefox, as with almost
    all other web browsers, support Javascript, they stopped supporting Java
    a long time ago. Javascript is not Java. Installing JRE in the OS
    won't make the web browsers support Java, by default. You have to
    enable Java in the web browser. Oracle has an article on enabling Java
    (again, not Javascript) in various web browsers, which is at:

    https://www.java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser.html

    Do you really have to load a web browser to then run RSSowl as a Java
    applet inside the web browser (after enabling Java in the web browser)?

    Maybe there is another reason RSSowl stopped working for you. See:

    https://github.com/rssowl/RSSOwl
    "RSSOwl is unmaintained and has several known vulnerabilities. Please do
    not use it any more."
    "Furthermore, RSSOwl does not work with Java 9, but it may still work
    with Java 8."

    The Java download page has only 8 as the latest released version.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(programming_language)
    "Java 25 is the version current as of September 2025. Java 8, 11, 17,
    21, and 25 are long-term support versions still under maintenance."

    If you have other Java apps needing later versions of Java, there are
    tricks to having multiple JDKs installed (do a web search), but I don't
    know about having multiple JREs installed. Haven't used Java, or
    anything needing it, for about 2 decades. I forget when MS decided to
    stop bundling their Java in Windows, so Java applets either made their
    users separately download and install Java, or bundling Java with their installer.
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  • From Dave Royal@dave@dave123royal.com to news.software.readers on Wed Oct 22 15:19:38 2025
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    On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 18:29:11 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

    Bill Bradshaw <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote:

    Been using on my computer but will not work on a new computer.
    Appears to be a JAVA problem with FireFox dumping it. Any suggestions
    for a replacement?

    From https://www.rssowl.org/, it notes the JRE (Java Runtime
    Environment, basically the runtime library for Java) must be present, so
    you may have to install it separately. "Computer" doesn't identify the
    OS. Java hasn't been bundled on Windows for a long time. You would
    have to visit Oracle to get the latest JRE. The RSSowl site points to https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp. You don't need the much
    larger JDK (Java Development Kit), just the JRE.

    Don't know what Firefox has to do with RSSOwl which looks to be a Java application, not a Java-based web app. While Firefox, as with almost
    all other web browsers, support Javascript, they stopped supporting Java
    a long time ago. Javascript is not Java. Installing JRE in the OS
    won't make the web browsers support Java, by default. You have to
    enable Java in the web browser. Oracle has an article on enabling Java (again, not Javascript) in various web browsers, which is at:

    https://www.java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser.html

    Do you really have to load a web browser to then run RSSowl as a Java
    applet inside the web browser (after enabling Java in the web browser)?

    Maybe there is another reason RSSowl stopped working for you. See:

    https://github.com/rssowl/RSSOwl "RSSOwl is unmaintained and has several known vulnerabilities. Please do not use it any more."
    "Furthermore, RSSOwl does not work with Java 9, but it may still work
    with Java 8."

    The Java download page has only 8 as the latest released version.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(programming_language)
    "Java 25 is the version current as of September 2025. Java 8, 11, 17,
    21, and 25 are long-term support versions still under maintenance."

    If you have other Java apps needing later versions of Java, there are
    tricks to having multiple JDKs installed (do a web search), but I don't
    know about having multiple JREs installed. Haven't used Java, or
    anything needing it, for about 2 decades. I forget when MS decided to
    stop bundling their Java in Windows, so Java applets either made their
    users separately download and install Java, or bundling Java with their installer.

    I've recommended RSSOwl in the past to Windows users (I don't know if the
    OP has Windows) and I wondered if it still worked in Win 11. So I
    installed it to see:
    <https://www.rssowl.org/>
    It reported no JRE so installed v8 from here: <https://github.com/rssowl/RSSOwl/issues/17>

    And it works fine. As VanguardLH wrote, multiple JREs can be a problem but
    not on this box.

    FWIW I normally use Sparse RSS Mod on Android or liferea on Linux.
    And occasionally NewsNetWire on iPhone and MacOS.
    --
    (Remove any numerics from my email address.)
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  • From Bill Bradshaw@bradshaw@gci.net to news.software.readers on Wed Oct 22 11:36:21 2025
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    Dave Royal wrote:
    On Tue, 21 Oct 2025 18:29:11 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

    Bill Bradshaw <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote:

    Been using on my computer but will not work on a new computer.
    Appears to be a JAVA problem with FireFox dumping it. Any
    suggestions for a replacement?

    From https://www.rssowl.org/, it notes the JRE (Java Runtime
    Environment, basically the runtime library for Java) must be
    present, so you may have to install it separately. "Computer"
    doesn't identify the OS. Java hasn't been bundled on Windows for a
    long time. You would have to visit Oracle to get the latest JRE.
    The RSSowl site points to
    https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp. You don't need the
    much larger JDK (Java Development Kit), just the JRE.

    Don't know what Firefox has to do with RSSOwl which looks to be a
    Java application, not a Java-based web app. While Firefox, as with
    almost all other web browsers, support Javascript, they stopped
    supporting Java a long time ago. Javascript is not Java.
    Installing JRE in the OS won't make the web browsers support Java,
    by default. You have to enable Java in the web browser. Oracle has
    an article on enabling Java (again, not Javascript) in various web
    browsers, which is at:

    https://www.java.com/en/download/help/enable_browser.html

    Do you really have to load a web browser to then run RSSowl as a Java
    applet inside the web browser (after enabling Java in the web
    browser)?

    Maybe there is another reason RSSowl stopped working for you. See:

    https://github.com/rssowl/RSSOwl "RSSOwl is unmaintained and has
    several known vulnerabilities. Please do not use it any more."
    "Furthermore, RSSOwl does not work with Java 9, but it may still work
    with Java 8."

    The Java download page has only 8 as the latest released version.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(programming_language)
    "Java 25 is the version current as of September 2025. Java 8, 11, 17,
    21, and 25 are long-term support versions still under maintenance."

    If you have other Java apps needing later versions of Java, there are
    tricks to having multiple JDKs installed (do a web search), but I
    don't know about having multiple JREs installed. Haven't used Java,
    or anything needing it, for about 2 decades. I forget when MS
    decided to stop bundling their Java in Windows, so Java applets
    either made their users separately download and install Java, or
    bundling Java with their installer.

    I've recommended RSSOwl in the past to Windows users (I don't know if
    the OP has Windows) and I wondered if it still worked in Win 11. So I installed it to see:
    <https://www.rssowl.org/>
    It reported no JRE so installed v8 from here: <https://github.com/rssowl/RSSOwl/issues/17>

    And it works fine. As VanguardLH wrote, multiple JREs can be a
    problem but not on this box.

    FWIW I normally use Sparse RSS Mod on Android or liferea on Linux.
    And occasionally NewsNetWire on iPhone and MacOS.

    So it is now working. I did not know if this was important but I had not installed java 32bit. Maybe it wanted 32bit instead of just 64bit. They
    are both installed and RSSOwl is working fine. Thanks for the detailed
    email which really helped.
    ---
    <Bill>

    Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska


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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to news.software.readers on Wed Oct 22 19:43:53 2025
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    Bill Bradshaw <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote:

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