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On 6/4/2026 5:56 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

On 6/3/2026 2:54 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

I think so in a sense. You can make your gui separate and another window
for dx12, opengl, ect... You should be able to make a window in app
space to render dx12/opengl on, cannot remember right now.

Fwiw, imgui is actually perfect for this for it renders directly into
your DX12/OpenGL framebuffer, so your whole UI lives inside the render
window itself. No separate Win32 panel needed. Super easy to integrate.

Actually, I cannot remember how to directly embed a dx12/opengl panel
into say qt or something.....

That means when you write a game, you have to roll your own GUI widgets?
And many other stuffs that's commonly found in rapid development tools
like Visual Foxpro?

That's why I used the word "harsh". :)
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On 6/3/2026 10:18 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

On 6/4/2026 5:56 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

On 6/3/2026 2:54 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

I think so in a sense. You can make your gui separate and another window >>> for dx12, opengl, ect... You should be able to make a window in app
space to render dx12/opengl on, cannot remember right now.

Fwiw, imgui is actually perfect for this for it renders directly into
your DX12/OpenGL framebuffer, so your whole UI lives inside the render
window itself. No separate Win32 panel needed. Super easy to integrate.

Actually, I cannot remember how to directly embed a dx12/opengl panel
into say qt or something.....

That means when you write a game, you have to roll your own GUI widgets?

Not necessarily... Well, imgui has a lot of the common gui elements.
Fwiw, I use it for my dx12 experiment. Not that hard to pull into the
system:

https://imgui.org

And many other stuffs that's commonly found in rapid development tools
like Visual Foxpro?

That's why I used the word "harsh". :)

Using imgui is easier than programming dx12 from scratch! :^)

I am getting the hang of it (dx12 and imgui). It (dx12) is more akin to Vulkan. Its a _lot_ more efficient than modern opengl! I can use a
single memcpy to update the entire state in the render loop. Bindless textures, and other fun things...
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On 6/5/2026 4:28 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

Using imgui is easier than programming dx12 from scratch! :^)

I am getting the hang of it (dx12 and imgui). It (dx12) is more akin to Vulkan. Its a _lot_ more efficient than modern opengl! I can use a
single memcpy to update the entire state in the render loop. Bindless textures, and other fun things...

Until I really have the need to do DirectX programming.... until then. :)

I do have an old Turbo C 2.0 project involving RS232 serial port. It
would be interesting to make it work in Windows, with TCP/IP support.
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On 6/10/2026 2:37 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

On 6/5/2026 4:28 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

Using imgui is easier than programming dx12 from scratch! :^)

I am getting the hang of it (dx12 and imgui). It (dx12) is more akin to
Vulkan. Its a _lot_ more efficient than modern opengl! I can use a
single memcpy to update the entire state in the render loop. Bindless
textures, and other fun things...

Until I really have the need to do DirectX programming.... until then. :)

I do have an old Turbo C 2.0 project involving RS232 serial port. It
would be interesting to make it work in Windows, with TCP/IP support.

That is an old compiler! I had an old C compiler for my Apple IIGS.
Iirc, ORCA? I cannot 100% remember right now. Wait...

https://github.com/byteworksinc/ORCA-C

This was before I got into programming my PC.
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On 6/15/2026 3:40 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

On 6/10/2026 2:37 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

I do have an old Turbo C 2.0 project involving RS232 serial port. It
would be interesting to make it work in Windows, with TCP/IP support.

That is an old compiler!

It's a Videotex emulator. Yes, it was indeed old and written only for single-user operating system MS DOS.

I had an old C compiler for my Apple IIGS.
Iirc, ORCA? I cannot 100% remember right now. Wait... https://github.com/byteworksinc/ORCA-C

This was before I got into programming my PC.

I knew a Korean who wrote a program to print Korean characters in Apple
][ for his church, when i was in secondary school in Hong Kong. He used
Apple BASIC, I believe.
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