• Re: "comp.soft-sys.qt"

    From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to comp.lang.c++,alt.free.newsservers,news.software.readers on Mon Jun 1 13:26:41 2026
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    On 5/31/2026 6:24 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:

    There should be a newsgroup "comp.soft-sys.qt" or
    "comp.soft-sys.misc". But since these do not exist...


    I did entered "qt" into the search-box of Thunderbird for newsgroup
    server Eternal-September, only "netscape.public.mozilla.qt" came up. Of course, it's not related to the QT library.

    Usenet is definitly not actively tracking new toys in the computer
    graphics world. :)

    Qt (software) - Wikipedia
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_(software)>

    Qt History - Qt Wiki
    <https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_History>
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  • From Marco Moock@mm@dorfdsl.de to comp.lang.c++,alt.free.newsservers,news.software.readers on Mon Jun 8 07:58:10 2026
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    Am 01.06.26 um 07:26 schrieb Mr. Man-wai Chang:
    Usenet is definitly not actively tracking new toys in the computer
    graphics world. EfOe

    You can start an RfD to create such a group if you think there is interest.
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to comp.lang.c++,alt.free.newsservers,news.software.readers on Mon Jun 8 18:24:16 2026
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    On 6/8/2026 1:58 PM, Marco Moock wrote:
    Am 01.06.26 um 07:26 schrieb Mr. Man-wai Chang:
    Usenet is definitly not actively tracking new toys in the computer
    graphics world. EfOe

    You can start an RfD to create such a group if you think there is interest.


    How could you talking about graphics and GUI when image attachments are
    NOT even allowed in Usenet and external links are suspected? :)
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to comp.lang.c++,alt.free.newsservers,news.software.readers on Mon Jun 8 08:23:15 2026
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    Verily, in article <110658h$356pv$2@toylet.eternal-september.org>, did toylet.toylet@gmail.com deliver unto us this message:

    On 6/8/2026 1:58 PM, Marco Moock wrote:
    Am 01.06.26 um 07:26 schrieb Mr. Man-wai Chang:
    Usenet is definitly not actively tracking new toys in the computer
    graphics world. ?

    You can start an RfD to create such a group if you think there is interest.


    How could you talking about graphics and GUI when image attachments are
    NOT even allowed in Usenet and external links are suspected? :)

    External links aren't suspicious if they're to some reasonable site. Use dropbox or imgur or similar, and interested people will follow it.
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  • From ram@ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) to comp.lang.c++,alt.free.newsservers,news.software.readers on Mon Jun 8 12:36:36 2026
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    The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote or quoted:
    Verily, in article <110658h$356pv$2@toylet.eternal-september.org>, did >toylet.toylet@gmail.com deliver unto us this message:
    How could you talking about graphics and GUI when image attachments are
    NOT even allowed in Usenet and external links are suspected? :)
    External links aren't suspicious if they're to some reasonable site. Use >dropbox or imgur or similar, and interested people will follow it.

    One can just show GUIs directly in posts.

    .----------------------------------------------------------------------.
    | |
    | |
    | .------------------------------------. |
    | | E | html_converter.py - editor |X| |
    | '------------------------------------' |
    | |ment_type == 'noscript': | |
    | |ise RuntimeError( 'The type "noscrip| |
    | |ment_type in HtmlConverter.void_type| |
    | |sult = '' | |
    | |sult +=|self.open_tag( element_type | |
    | |sult += self.element_attributes( exp| |
    | |sult += self.closing_angle_of_void_t| |
    | '------------------------------------' |
    | | 42, 87 | |
    | '------------------------------------' |
    | | '----------------------------------------------------------------------'
    | Start | editor | | 21.05 | '----------------------------------------------------------------------'


    .---.---------------------.---------------------.-------.-- |___|___________A_________|___________B_________|___C___|_
    | 1 | 2025-09-17 10:41:00 | 2025-09-17 23:41:00 | 12:00 |



    | <- Add note V
    | Front
    | thermodynamic entropy according to Boltzmann O
    | ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    | Back
    | S<sub>++ O
    | ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    | [-e] [-E] [-a] [ |a] [ |U] [+a] [-i] [+o] [+y] [+O] [b|c] [+-] [+-] [-a] [++] [-e] [+|]
    | [`] [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [0] [-] [=] [<]
    | [>] [;] [-#] [+|] [-U] [-a] [-a] [++] [+|] [++] [-C] ([) (]) [\] | [Ctrl] [+#] [-a] [+|] [-a] [+|] [++] [++] [+|] [++] ['] ['] [<--] | [ ^ ] [+|] [-c] [-e] [-e] [+#] [++] [++] [,] [.] [/] [^] [^]
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to comp.lang.c++,alt.free.newsservers,news.software.readers on Fri Jun 12 12:35:14 2026
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    On 6/8/2026 8:23 PM, The True Melissa wrote:
    Verily, in article <110658h$356pv$2@toylet.eternal-september.org>, did toylet.toylet@gmail.com deliver unto us this message:


    How could you talking about graphics and GUI when image attachments are
    NOT even allowed in Usenet and external links are suspected? :)

    External links aren't suspicious if they're to some reasonable site. Use dropbox or imgur or similar, and interested people will follow it.

    You were talking about modern day internet. I don't remember people
    talking about image hosting back when internet was first opened to
    public use, or maybe I was not allowed to learn, discover and know about it.

    Also, back then sound, images and hence movies were not an important
    part of internet. Things changed in these decades with hardware
    improvement, but slowly...slowly...slowly and being managed/moderated/regulated. :)
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to comp.lang.c++,alt.free.newsservers,news.software.readers on Fri Jun 12 12:37:19 2026
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    On 6/8/2026 8:36 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:

    One can just show GUIs directly in posts.

    ASCII art? Your example is overly simplified. Maybe you have and had
    tools to convert an image into ASCII art.

    A toy nobody was allowed to know about until very later. Nationaly
    security stuff? :)
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  • From The True Melissa@thetruemelissa@gmail.com to comp.lang.c++,alt.free.newsservers,news.software.readers on Fri Jun 12 06:07:31 2026
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    Verily, in article <110g2e1$1ufut$2@toylet.eternal-september.org>, did toylet.toylet@gmail.com deliver unto us this message:
    ASCII art? Your example is overly simplified. Maybe you have and had
    tools to convert an image into ASCII art.


    There are tools like that. I saw some available in the late 20th
    century, and surely they're still around somewhere.

    They were never great compared to what talented ASCII artists did, but
    they worked after a fashion.
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to comp.lang.c++,alt.free.newsservers,news.software.readers on Fri Jun 12 18:48:50 2026
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    On 6/12/2026 6:07 PM, The True Melissa wrote:

    There are tools like that. I saw some available in the late 20th
    century, and surely they're still around somewhere.

    They were never great compared to what talented ASCII artists did, but
    they worked after a fashion.

    Back then, VT-100 and Unix terminals are simple. It's easy to talk about console text interface problems. Modern day GUI might be a little bit difficult to communicate without image attachment/hosting/HTML. Anyway....
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  • From Chris M. Thomasson@chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com to comp.lang.c++,alt.free.newsservers,news.software.readers on Fri Jun 12 12:21:56 2026
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    On 6/12/2026 3:48 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 6/12/2026 6:07 PM, The True Melissa wrote:

    There are tools like that. I saw some available in the late 20th
    century, and surely they're still around somewhere.

    They were never great compared to what talented ASCII artists did, but
    they worked after a fashion.

    Back then, VT-100 and Unix terminals are simple. It's easy to talk about console text interface problems. Modern day GUI might be a little bit difficult to communicate without image attachment/hosting/HTML. Anyway....


    Fwiw, around 25+ years ago in several of my proxy servers, I coded up a
    little embedded web server. It listened on a special port where I could
    go in and alter settings, see status, ect using a browser. I never coded
    up a GUI using Windows for it.

    Iirc, I also had another port where I could telnet into it and issue
    commands.
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to comp.lang.c++,alt.free.newsservers,news.software.readers on Sun Jun 14 00:44:53 2026
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    On 6/13/2026 3:21 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

    Fwiw, around 25+ years ago in several of my proxy servers, I coded up a little embedded web server. It listened on a special port where I could
    go in and alter settings, see status, ect using a browser. I never coded
    up a GUI using Windows for it.

    The interesting part of your little server is security. Was its door key
    safe? :)
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  • From Chris M. Thomasson@chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com to comp.lang.c++,alt.free.newsservers,news.software.readers on Sat Jun 13 14:39:24 2026
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    On 6/13/2026 9:44 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 6/13/2026 3:21 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

    Fwiw, around 25+ years ago in several of my proxy servers, I coded up a
    little embedded web server. It listened on a special port where I could
    go in and alter settings, see status, ect using a browser. I never coded
    up a GUI using Windows for it.

    The interesting part of your little server is security. Was its door key safe? :)


    Iirc, it was password protected. SHA2-HMAC iirc, hash of the password
    with some internal server state. But this was for some of my
    experimental work wrt mutating my server settings from a web page.
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  • From Anne Frank@bounce.me@n2n.oc2mx.net to comp.lang.c++,alt.free.newsservers,news.software.readers on Sat Jun 13 23:56:07 2026
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    Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 6/8/2026 1:58 PM, Marco Moock wrote:
    Am 01.06.26 um 07:26 schrieb Mr. Man-wai Chang:
    Usenet is definitly not actively tracking new toys in the computer graphics world. EfOe

    You can start an RfD to create such a group if you think there is interest.


    How could you talking about graphics and GUI when image attachments are
    NOT even allowed in Usenet and external links are suspected? :)

    Only old fart regulars are against it. Find one of many many abandoned
    Usenet Newsgroups and post your image attachments...

    Attached is my public AEC NaClbox key, which should display in Thunderbird. :)





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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to comp.lang.c++,alt.free.newsservers,news.software.readers on Mon Jun 15 13:50:44 2026
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    On 6/14/2026 5:39 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

    Iirc, it was password protected. SHA2-HMAC iirc, hash of the password
    with some internal server state. But this was for some of my
    experimental work wrt mutating my server settings from a web page.


    Did you re-use your "little embedded web server" in other projects? Did
    it become a part of something bigger?
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  • From Chris M. Thomasson@chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com to comp.lang.c++,alt.free.newsservers,news.software.readers on Mon Jun 15 00:33:32 2026
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    On 6/14/2026 10:50 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 6/14/2026 5:39 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

    Iirc, it was password protected. SHA2-HMAC iirc, hash of the password
    with some internal server state. But this was for some of my
    experimental work wrt mutating my server settings from a web page.


    Did you re-use your "little embedded web server" in other projects? Did
    it become a part of something bigger?


    I used it for many things personally. Actually, on some consulting jobs,
    I showed it to some people, some used parts of it. It was more like a
    proxy server framework. All in C. But, most of them were way more
    interested in me helping them fix some deadlocks and/or potential race conditions in their code. This was way back in very early 2000's.

    One of the worst jobs I ever had was for somebody who would lock a mutex
    in their io threads loop and call into user code. They said it was fine because of recursive mutex, but they also said it would deadlock from
    time to time. It was a fucking nightmare.
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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to comp.lang.c++,news.software.readers,comp.lang.c on Mon Jun 15 18:37:52 2026
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    On 6/15/2026 3:33 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 6/14/2026 10:50 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    Did you re-use your "little embedded web server" in other projects? Did
    it become a part of something bigger?

    I used it for many things personally. Actually, on some consulting jobs,
    I showed it to some people, some used parts of it. It was more like a
    proxy server framework. All in C. But, most of them were way more
    interested in me helping them fix some deadlocks and/or potential race conditions in their code. This was way back in very early 2000's.

    One of the worst jobs I ever had was for somebody who would lock a mutex
    in their io threads loop and call into user code. They said it was fine because of recursive mutex, but they also said it would deadlock from
    time to time. It was a fucking nightmare.


    I have never ever written a server app before, just business-oriented
    MIS stuffs (mostly Foxpro/DOS, Foxpro/Windows and Visual Foxpro). The
    last time I wrote things related directly to networked operating system
    was Novell Netware.

    I think I could call and respect you as a software engineeer? :)
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  • From Chris M. Thomasson@chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com to comp.lang.c++,news.software.readers,comp.lang.c on Mon Jun 15 15:24:01 2026
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    On 6/15/2026 3:37 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 6/15/2026 3:33 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 6/14/2026 10:50 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    Did you re-use your "little embedded web server" in other projects? Did
    it become a part of something bigger?

    I used it for many things personally. Actually, on some consulting jobs,
    I showed it to some people, some used parts of it. It was more like a
    proxy server framework. All in C. But, most of them were way more
    interested in me helping them fix some deadlocks and/or potential race
    conditions in their code. This was way back in very early 2000's.

    One of the worst jobs I ever had was for somebody who would lock a mutex
    in their io threads loop and call into user code. They said it was fine
    because of recursive mutex, but they also said it would deadlock from
    time to time. It was a fucking nightmare.


    I have never ever written a server app before, just business-oriented
    MIS stuffs (mostly Foxpro/DOS, Foxpro/Windows and Visual Foxpro). The
    last time I wrote things related directly to networked operating system
    was Novell Netware.

    I think I could call and respect you as a software engineeer? :)



    Yeah. I am. thank you. But the last time I created server code was many
    moons ago. 20-25+ years ago. I moved to another place since then, around
    2012. Coding up fractals and vector fields. Fwiw, I made the 2025 AMS Calander. The cover! And the month of February. Fwiw, check this out.
    Can you get to the damn FB link?

    https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18nU7hiMYy/

    You can also find some of my work on YouTube. Fwiw, I also made the MIDI
    music here:

    https://youtu.be/HwIkk9zENcg

    https://youtu.be/n13GHyYEfLA


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