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I have been seeing some faux alt newsgroups lately.

I wonder if everyone have a synced newsgroups and newsrc and related files.
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Am 17.07.26 um 16:40 schrieb The Doctor:

I have been seeing some faux alt newsgroups lately.

I wonder if everyone have a synced newsgroups and newsrc and related files.

Please give more info.
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On Jul 17, 2026 at 9:40:51rC>AM CDT, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:

I have been seeing some faux alt newsgroups lately.

I wonder if everyone have a synced newsgroups and newsrc and related files.

Can you provide example newsgroups you're seeing?

$ cat unwanted.log | egrep 'alt\.'
7 alt.bbs.files-announce
5 alt.sex.pictu
4 alt.test.9
2 alt.2600.madrid
1 alt.soc.germans

Keep in mind, some of the commercial NSPs will accept and propagate ANY
article with ANY Newsgroups: header, whether 'valid' or not. I don't pay too much attention to the 'unwanted' logs... If there's a newgroup message sent
for the alt hierarchy, INN's default is to accept it, so I always assume these are articles I don't need or are sent in error.

Outside of alt, there are several groups that seem to get posted to with regular frequency, but I've never received a newgroup/checkgroups control message for:

$ cat unwanted.log
26880 fido7.ukrnews
1240 hispagatos.hacking.news
160 hispagatos.hacking.ransomware
62 newsreader.test
41 fido7.lorapvt
39 hispagatos.mastodon.tag.hacking
22 fido7.nodex.tech
14 hispagatos.hacking.exploits
8 local.general
8 de.rec.spiele
7 alt.bbs.files-announce
7 chmurka.statystyki
5 alt.sex.pictu
4 net.msg
4 alt.test.9
3 net.all
3 fido.ru.space
3 fa.all
2 fido7.f715.echo
2 hispagatos.mastodon.tag.hackers
2 misc.phone.mobile.android
2 chmurka.test
2 alt.2600.madrid
2 eternal-september.nocems
1 fa.info-mac.sources
1 soc.culutre.china
1 fido.su.pol
1 braunschweig.test
1 alt.soc.germans
1 a.a.mis.harrisburg
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Thus spake doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)

I have been seeing some faux alt newsgroups lately.
I wonder if everyone have a synced newsgroups and newsrc and related files.

1. There is no authoritative list of alt.* groups.

2. Could this be related to your new full feed from paganini?
In that case, there are two options:
Do an actsync with paganini or just ignore the "unwanted newsgroup"
errors in your log.
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That you are unhappy is not abuse. news.admin.net-abuse.usenet cut from crosspost.

The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:

I have been seeing some faux alt newsgroups lately.

Dude! You are pretending to a be a News administrator! If you recognize
a froup, it's a froup. If you do not recognize a froup, it's not a
froup. You are the News administrator. You are literally in charge of
whatever froups you offer.

If you both wish to peer, then you both must use a froup's canonical
name otherwise articles won't land where visible to users. In alt.*, if
the proponent sent a newfroup message, read that for the canonical
name if it's not got any major errors in it. In an administered hierarchy, consult checkgroups.

I wonder if everyone have a synced newsgroups and newsrc and related files.

.newrc is the list of froups you subscribe to. It's a newsreder file.
You don't syncronize it! As a user, it's entirely your call what you
subscribe to.

If you want to syncronize your newsfroups and active files, obtain them
from one of your peers. Otherwise, you maintain them yourself as you
create and remove froups locally.

If you do not wish to be in charge, then turn in your News administratrs credentials.
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In article <113di23$e1u$1@omnios-inn.blueworldhosting.com>,
Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:

On Jul 17, 2026 at 9:40:51rC>AM CDT, "The Doctor" <The Doctor> wrote:

I have been seeing some faux alt newsgroups lately.

I wonder if everyone have a synced newsgroups and newsrc and related files.

Can you provide example newsgroups you're seeing?

$ cat unwanted.log | egrep 'alt\.'
7 alt.bbs.files-announce
5 alt.sex.pictu
4 alt.test.9
2 alt.2600.madrid
1 alt.soc.germans

Keep in mind, some of the commercial NSPs will accept and propagate ANY >article with ANY Newsgroups: header, whether 'valid' or not. I don't pay too >much attention to the 'unwanted' logs... If there's a newgroup message sent >for the alt hierarchy, INN's default is to accept it, so I always assume these >are articles I don't need or are sent in error.

Outside of alt, there are several groups that seem to get posted to with >regular frequency, but I've never received a newgroup/checkgroups control >message for:

$ cat unwanted.log
26880 fido7.ukrnews
1240 hispagatos.hacking.news
160 hispagatos.hacking.ransomware
62 newsreader.test
41 fido7.lorapvt
39 hispagatos.mastodon.tag.hacking
22 fido7.nodex.tech
14 hispagatos.hacking.exploits
8 local.general
8 de.rec.spiele
7 alt.bbs.files-announce
7 chmurka.statystyki
5 alt.sex.pictu
4 net.msg
4 alt.test.9
3 net.all
3 fido.ru.space
3 fa.all
2 fido7.f715.echo
2 hispagatos.mastodon.tag.hackers
2 misc.phone.mobile.android
2 chmurka.test
2 alt.2600.madrid
2 eternal-september.nocems
1 fa.info-mac.sources
1 soc.culutre.china
1 fido.su.pol
1 braunschweig.test
1 alt.soc.germans
1 a.a.mis.harrisburg

There an alt.drwho

That is not supposed to be a group
alt.drwho.cerative is.
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2 alt.2600.madrid

this one we carry in our news server is a 2600 branch from the 2600 groups/magazine
alt.2600.hackers alt.2600.hope alt.2600 alt.2600.madrid

1240 hispagatos.hacking.news
160 hispagatos.hacking.ransomware
39 hispagatos.mastodon.tag.hacking
14 hispagatos.hacking.exploits
2 hispagatos.mastodon.tag.hackers

This are legit is a herarchy we created 1-2 years
a go and follow all the directives, as spoken with
Marcos Friday I send the official signcontrol
for some groups that we were using locally but
that people on other newsgroups have asked us to share so I did
check the signcontrol from Friday July 17 2026

Happy Hacking
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Am 17.07.26 um 17:34 schrieb Jesse Rehmer:

8 de.rec.spiele

It seems you have missed certain control messages, but that group exists
in de.* after reorganization.
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In article <113holl$4ftd$1@dont-email.me>, Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> wrote: >Am 17.07.26 um 17:34 schrieb Jesse Rehmer:

8 de.rec.spiele

It seems you have missed certain control messages, but that group exists
in de.* after reorganization.

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Another example is

alt.idiot.will-dockery ** invalid news group -- check spelling **

like alt.drwho

but alt.drwho.creative is a legit group

WE need to get rid of all bogus alt groups in our data

and let no one creating this false alt groups.

I know ISC.org does carry an official list .
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Thus spake doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)

like alt.drwho

but alt.drwho.creative is a legit group

WE need to get rid of all bogus alt groups in our data
and let no one creating this false alt groups.

Then why do YOU keep crossposting to alt.drwho?

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I know ISC.org does carry an official list .

There is no "official" list of alt.* groups, as there is no official
process and no official hierarchy management.

ISC offers a sample active file that contains all groups for which
newgroup control messages have been sent in the past. As everybody can
send such control messages for alt.* (some people claim that alt is an
acronym for "anarchists, lunatics, terrorists"), newgroup messages for
alt.* are meaningless.
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On 7/17/2026 10:40 PM, The Doctor wrote:

Faux alt groups
I have been seeing some faux alt newsgroups lately.
I wonder if everyone have a synced newsgroups and newsrc and related files.

Was it "false" or "faux"?

Did you type "false" but became "faux"?

Then you possibly are in a seal.
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In article <113lruj$1e4qp$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>,
Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

On 7/17/2026 10:40 PM, The Doctor wrote:

Faux alt groups
I have been seeing some faux alt newsgroups lately.
I wonder if everyone have a synced newsgroups and newsrc and related files.

Was it "false" or "faux"?

Did you type "false" but became "faux"?

Then you possibly are in a seal.

False vs faux . MEans the same thing.

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On 2026-07-20 9:20 a.m., The Doctor wrote:

In article <113holl$4ftd$1@dont-email.me>, Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> wrote:

Am 17.07.26 um 17:34 schrieb Jesse Rehmer:

8 de.rec.spiele

It seems you have missed certain control messages, but that group exists
in de.* after reorganization.

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Another example is

alt.idiot.will-dockery ** invalid news group -- check spelling **

like alt.drwho

but alt.drwho.creative is a legit group

WE need to get rid of all bogus alt groups in our data

and let no one creating this false alt groups.

I know ISC.org does carry an official list .

The tears of a cross-posting clown, suck it up binky, you are not the gatekeeper.
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On 2026-07-20 8:33 p.m., The Doctor wrote:

In article <113lruj$1e4qp$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>,
Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

On 7/17/2026 10:40 PM, The Doctor wrote:

Faux alt groups
I have been seeing some faux alt newsgroups lately.
I wonder if everyone have a synced newsgroups and newsrc and related files. >>

Was it "false" or "faux"?

Did you type "false" but became "faux"?

Then you possibly are in a seal.

False vs faux . MEans the same thing.

Meaning and Usage

False: A native English word meaning incorrect, untrue, deceitful, or structurally artificial (e.g., false teeth, false statement, false start).

Faux: A borrowed French word (pronounced like "foe") used stylishly to
mean imitation or artificial, especially in fashion, decor, and design
(e.g., faux fur, faux leather, faux pearls)
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In article <6c1e1717-22b2-4a90-a674-64da3b8781bc-aw@news.chmurka.net>,
Adam W. <aw@somewhere.invalid> wrote:

The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:

WE need to get rid of all bogus alt groups in our data

and let no one creating this false alt groups.

Who decides which groups are legit and which are not? What do you want to >base it on, and why? Just the list on the ISC?

alt.drwho is not there, but alt.idiot.will-dockery is:

ftp://ftp.isc.org/usenet/control/alt/alt.idiot.will-dockery.gz

Posting only to nanau, as this seems to be the least inappropriate group
for this discussion (nothing to do with peering or NNTP software).

So is is official?

Still getting the other 2 groups back,
Is to clean up the alt mess and get rid of the bogus groups.
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On 7/21/2026 10:33 AM, The Doctor wrote:

In article <113lruj$1e4qp$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>,
Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

Was it "false" or "faux"?
Did you type "false" but became "faux"?
Then you possibly are in a seal.

False vs faux . MEans the same thing.

"aux" can mean auxillary, a term used in
computer operating systems.

aux device - Google uELo#i
<https://www.google.com/search?q=aux+device+>

"F-aux" can mean something completely
different. :)
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On 7/21/2026 11:01 PM, Idlehands wrote:

On 2026-07-20 8:33 p.m., The Doctor wrote:

In article <113lruj$1e4qp$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>,
Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

Was it "false" or "faux"?
Did you type "false" but became "faux"?

False vs faux . MEans the same thing.

...
Faux: A borrowed French word (pronounced like "foe") used stylishly....

Not good... not good whenever French was involved. :)

What's origin of this borrowed word "faux"? Another
tortured saint? Like Saint Joan of Arc? Well.... :)
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In article <113ugf1$b788$3@toylet.eternal-september.org>,
Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

On 7/21/2026 11:01 PM, Idlehands wrote:

On 2026-07-20 8:33 p.m., The Doctor wrote:

In article <113lruj$1e4qp$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>,
Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

Was it "false" or "faux"?
Did you type "false" but became "faux"?

False vs faux . MEans the same thing.

...
Faux: A borrowed French word (pronounced like "foe") used stylishly....

Idlelies cannot speak French.

Not good... not good whenever French was involved. :)

What's origin of this borrowed word "faux"? Another
tortured saint? Like Saint Joan of Arc? Well.... :)

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On 7/24/2026 2:25 PM, The Doctor wrote:

Idlelies cannot speak French.

Why shuold I know a nation and/or
its language that enjoys taunting
religions and sexual matters? ;)
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