• Re: restarting comp.newprod, comp.simulation and comp.std.announce

    From Marco Moock@mm@dorfdsl.de to comp.misc,news.groups.proposals on Sun Apr 27 08:28:16 2025
    From Newsgroup: news.groups.proposals

    Follow-Up2: news.groups.proposals

    On 26.04.2025 18:42 Uhr Ivan Shmakov wrote:

    [Cross-posting to news:comp.std.misc , as suggested in
    news:vs73t3$3hlga$2@dont-email.me , but setting Followup-To:
    news:comp.misc , as the former group doesn't seem to be
    active.]

    As some might know, back in March I've volunteered to take
    over moderation of comp.newprod and comp.std.announce newsgroups
    that are currently unusable due to the lack of a moderator.
    (My news.groups.proposals post is in the References:.)

    In my post I also suggested for comp.simulation (and a few
    other non-comp.* groups) to become unmoderated. I don't seem to see
    any response to that, so assuming the intent is still to
    remove it, I'm volunteering to take over its moderation as well.

    If so, please mention it in the RfD discussion and also CC that to board@big-8.org, so we definitely not miss it.

    Like I've mentioned, I've never had much interest in moderated
    newsgroups before, much less been a moderator of one, so I
    can't promise smooth operation, especially right from the start.

    Depends on what you want to do. You will need moderation infrastructure
    (or ask others that already have), this normally works fine.

    And regardless, I'd prefer not doing the thing entirely on my
    own; anyone here interested in taking part, perchance?

    I don't see a problem here if you operate it on your own.

    My plan is to set up message submission email addresses
    aliased to my own mailbox, and approve (or not approve) them from
    there.

    This will probably not work if your have an inbox at Google/MS/Yahoo
    out of the box.

    Should there ever be any co-moderators, I'd move submissions to
    a password-protected portion of an https: website and provide
    an HTTP/1-based API (usable with curl(1) and compatible with
    Lynx, naturally) to approve the messages there.

    There is webstump for that.

    It's possible that I'd implement a whitelist of known-good
    posters for auto-approval, though that will require a way for
    the software to /identify/ such posters. Such as, e. g., a
    direct email message (Newsgroups: and all) to the submission
    address, with a valid DKIM signature for the MAIL FROM:
    domain.

    Webstump can use rules based on sender address, but DKIM will not be
    available by design. The message is being injected into the news server
    the poster is using and then sent to the moderation servers (e.g.
    mine). This will forward it to the submission address. DKIM signing
    needs the private key of the domain (e.g. example.org) and the mail
    never passes the MSA/MTA of example.org.

    Forging is possible here.

    My intent for the groups is to, obviously, keep them on-topic.
    Other than that, I'm going to check for what IETF / IESG
    announcement lists are around here and, if fitting, start
    forwarding messages from there to comp.std.announce.

    Fine in my eyes.
    --
    kind regards
    Marco

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