• Re: Is this the end of SLJ? -- Spam was the main factor (that destroyed SLJ)?

    From HenHanna@HenHanna@devnull.tb to sci.lang.japan,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,news.groups on Sun Jun 30 13:17:09 2024
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    On 10/25/2023 10:09 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    In article <RJZgNzzq7otMBCT65@bongo-ra.co>,
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 14:41:20 -0000 (UTC)
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
    Is this like comp.arch or comp.lang.c?

    I'm not sure what you're asking. If the question is whether the spam on
    sci.lang.japan is as bad as it is on comp.arch or comp.lang.c , I
    don't know. Try the groups through a server which doesn't seem to filter
    the spam (news.cyber23.de doesn't seem to do so) and with your own filters >> off and you can form your own opinion.

    It is similar spam injected in a similar way. Much like the spam on comp.os.vms and on comp.protocols.time.ntp. It is more or less a universal problem across usenet. Many sites sites just dump all Google postings or dump anything with "UTF-8" in a malformed subject line.
    --scott


    so you think Spam was the main factor (that destroyed SLJ)?
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  • From kludge@kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) to sci.lang.japan,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,news.groups on Mon Jul 1 00:24:20 2024
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    In article <v5seg5$m194$1@dont-email.me>,
    HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb> wrote:
    On 10/25/2023 10:09 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    In article <RJZgNzzq7otMBCT65@bongo-ra.co>,
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 14:41:20 -0000 (UTC)
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
    Is this like comp.arch or comp.lang.c?

    I'm not sure what you're asking. If the question is whether the spam on
    sci.lang.japan is as bad as it is on comp.arch or comp.lang.c , I
    don't know. Try the groups through a server which doesn't seem to filter >>> the spam (news.cyber23.de doesn't seem to do so) and with your own filters >>> off and you can form your own opinion.

    It is similar spam injected in a similar way. Much like the spam on
    comp.os.vms and on comp.protocols.time.ntp. It is more or less a universal >> problem across usenet. Many sites sites just dump all Google postings or
    dump anything with "UTF-8" in a malformed subject line.

    so you think Spam was the main factor (that destroyed SLJ)?

    I didn't see spam being a problem in technical groups because they had so
    few Google Groups users that everybody just dropped all Google postings
    in the past decade anyway, and of course all the spam came through Google.

    Whether it was a problem in s.l.j or how it was a problem or whether
    Google being dropped off usenet voluntarily affected s.l.j I have no idea
    about because I never read the group.

    But currently there is no connection between Google Groups and Usenet and
    there is very little spam. Many groups that were inundated with spam and
    had a small number of Google users are doing well today.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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  • From HenHanna@HenHanna@devnull.tb to sci.lang.japan,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,news.groups,soc.culture.japan on Fri Jul 19 14:49:39 2024
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    On 6/30/2024 5:24 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    In article <v5seg5$m194$1@dont-email.me>,
    HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb> wrote:
    On 10/25/2023 10:09 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
    In article <RJZgNzzq7otMBCT65@bongo-ra.co>,
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 14:41:20 -0000 (UTC)
    doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote:
    Is this like comp.arch or comp.lang.c?

    I'm not sure what you're asking. If the question is whether the spam on >>>> sci.lang.japan is as bad as it is on comp.arch or comp.lang.c , I
    don't know. Try the groups through a server which doesn't seem to filter >>>> the spam (news.cyber23.de doesn't seem to do so) and with your own filters
    off and you can form your own opinion.

    It is similar spam injected in a similar way. Much like the spam on
    comp.os.vms and on comp.protocols.time.ntp. It is more or less a universal >>> problem across usenet. Many sites sites just dump all Google postings or >>> dump anything with "UTF-8" in a malformed subject line.

    so you think Spam was the main factor (that destroyed SLJ)?

    I didn't see spam being a problem in technical groups because they had so
    few Google Groups users that everybody just dropped all Google postings
    in the past decade anyway, and of course all the spam came through Google.

    Whether it was a problem in s.l.j or how it was a problem or whether
    Google being dropped off usenet voluntarily affected s.l.j I have no idea about because I never read the group.

    But currently there is no connection between Google Groups and Usenet and there is very little spam. Many groups that were inundated with spam and
    had a small number of Google users are doing well today.
    --scott



    so you think Spam was the main factor (that destroyed SLJ)?

    from my experience from GG... it seems that Spammers
    tended to avoid NG Groups that were actually occupied (and used)


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