• 2nd RFD soc.org.freemasonry moderated (remove) - LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS

    From board@board@big-8.org (Big 8 Management Board) to news.announce.newgroups,news.groups.proposals,soc.org.freemasonry on Fri Feb 6 10:04:08 2015
    From Newsgroup: news.announce.newgroups

    2nd REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
    moderated group soc.org.freemasonry (remove) - LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS

    This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated
    newsgroup soc.org.freemasonry.

    The B8MB plans to begin voting on this proposal after five days. Please
    offer any final discussion or comments before the end of this waiting
    period. Voting may take up to one week (7 days); a result will be
    posted following the end of the voting period.

    All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.proposals.

    For more information on the newsgroup removal process, please see http://www.big-8.org/articles/p/r/o/Procedure_to_remove_newsgroups.html

    NEWSGROUPS LINE:
    soc.org.freemasonry Discussion group for the Fraternity "Freemasonry". (Moderated)

    RATIONALE:
    Probe posts to this group result in bounces:

    <soc-org-freemasonry@moderators.isc.org>: host
    moderators.individual.net[130.133.4.7] said: 550-Callout verification
    failed: 550-550 5.1.1 <sof@mail.cybermango.org>: Recipient address
    rejected: 550 User unknown in local recipient table (in reply to RCPT TO
    command)

    The last article approved by the moderators, with Message ID <004f195b-0f15-4c81-818a-99cb524d7d6a@googlegroups.com>, appeared in
    December of 2012, over two years ago.

    One of the last articles posted to the newsgroup, in March of 2012, was
    from moderator Alan Schwartz, with Message ID <lsSdnZX80NVkNPvSnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@supernews.com>, announcing that the
    members of the moderation team were planning to quit moderating the
    newsgroup. Volunteers were solicited to take over the moderation of the newsgroup. The possibility of a Moderator Vacancy Investigation was
    also mentioned.

    DISCUSSION SO FAR:

    In response to the original Moderator Vacancy Investigation and the 1st
    Request for Discussion, no followup to news.groups.proposals has been
    posted volunteering to serve as a replacement moderator or moderators,
    or inquiring about volunteering.

    DISTRIBUTION:
    news.announce.newgroups
    news.groups.proposals
    soc.org.freemasonry

    CHARTER:

    The purpose of this newsgroup is to provide a world wide Usenet forum
    for the discussion of Freemasonry, the oldest fraternity in the world
    with a membership of over five million world-wide which derive their
    charters from Grand Lodges on their continent.

    The newsgroup is not a vehicle for official pronouncements for any
    Masonic body, but a means to facilitate the interaction and promote
    the brotherhood of members of Masonic bodies.

    The newsgroup is meant to supplement, not replace, any already
    existing Internet or Usenet or newsgroup system devoted to members of Freemasonry.

    The purpose of the panel of arbitrators is to supervise the panel of
    moderators and facilitate any concerns the readers may have with the moderation.

    The purpose of the panel of moderators is to supervise and manage the
    Usenet newsgroup for Freemasonry, in order to provide a reasonable
    and responsible forum for discussion about and news for freemasonry.

    The following are the editorial policies:

    General Usenet "netiquette" guidelines as posted in
    news.announce.newusers and news.answers shall apply to this news
    group. In particular, participants are asked to show courtesy and
    respect for other participants, and to avoid the use of offensive
    language, excessive quoting, or long (defined as "over four lines")
    signature blocks. Participants are encouraged to use descriptive
    subjects. Examples are "New York Metro area:I seek sponsorship into a
    lodge," rather than "Help me join;" "Royal Arch Questions on
    Traditional Bible Passages," rather than "Royal Arch questions;"
    "Should felons be allowed to join," rather than "a question on Masonic qualifications."

    The following posts are strictly prohibited in this newsgroup:

    + Posts consisting of copyrighted materials, except portions used
    under fair quote provisions of copyright law
    + Excessively long posts (over 25kB.)
    + Messages cross posted to other newsgroups.
    + Material unrelated to Speculative Masonry (off topic).
    + Make money fast or other chain or fraudulent schemes or
    anything else defined as an illegal communication by majority of
    the governments where Usenet carries this news group.
    + Work at home or other off-topic scams.
    + Commercial advertisements, infomercials, or announcements with
    the exception of one-line pointers to off-newsgroup cyberspace of
    interest to Freemasons.
    + Binaries or other encoded/encrypted material.
    + Posts in a language the moderators cannot read. For the most
    part posts should be limited to English, however posts containing
    a language other than English with English translation are the
    exception to this rule.
    + Forged posts (anonymous posts allowed.)
    + Personal insults or written attacks on specific Masons or
    Masons in general.
    + Personal insults or written attacks upon anyone and/or any
    organization.

    Responsible criticisms are welcome. E.g., "all you masons are a bunch
    of lying, devil-worshipping fools." is not allowed. "According to
    book (title, author, publication year) your ritual is identical to the
    ritual of organized satanist's (particularly :x,y,z). Since I find
    this book to be credible I believe your fraternity to be
    misrepresenting itself," is allowed.

    The following posts are allowed, but not encouraged.

    + "Classified" style ads with descriptive subject.
    Examples are "WTB:Masonic memorabilia related to the freeing of
    debt of the NYGL building in Manhattan," or "FS:second-hand books
    on masonry," or "WTB:tobacco pipe with Masonic design."

    + Moderators will use their discretion concerning posts that may
    contain Masonic secrets. Posts purporting to reveal Masonic
    secrets will be rejected outright, regardless of whether or not
    the fact of revelation of secrets be explicit or implied.

    ARBITRATION/MODERATION POLICIES

    Arbitration Structure/Procedures:

    1) There will be a panel of three arbitrators to provide checks
    against the moderators.
    2) Arbitrators may not serve as moderators.
    3) In the event between a dispute of moderators, or in the event of
    moderators being accused of censorship by participants, a single
    arbitrator will collect all sides of the event and present it to
    the other two arbitrators. A simple majority vote will decide
    the issue. If an arbitrator's panel vote comes out against a
    moderator's actions, the arbitrators panel will remedy a
    participant's complaint by requiring the posting of the original
    article, however, this will not be construed as restricting the
    arbitrator's panel from pursuing other remedies as it sees fit.
    4) Quorum shall be the entirety of the panel of arbitrators.
    Physical presence will not be required to vote, electronic
    delivery of vote is acceptable for all purposes.
    5) An arbitrator may be impeached and removed by moderators.
    In order to do this the moderators will need to establish a
    2/3 quorum and a 2/3 majority vote.
    6) To qualify to be an arbitrator, a person must be a Mason in good
    standing with his lodge which is defined as a lodge of Free and
    Accepted Masons or a lodge of Ancient Free and Accepted Masons
    which is chartered under the provisions of a grand body of masons
    considered to have regular jurisdiction in the volunteer's
    geographical location.

    Moderation Structure/Procedures:

    1) There will always be a minimum of two moderators in case illness
    or absence of one moderator.
    2) Prior to becoming a moderator, the moderator agrees to abide by
    the rulings of the arbitrators' panel.
    3) To qualify to be a moderator, a person must be a Mason in good
    standing with his lodge which is defined as a lodge of Free and
    Accepted Masons or a lodge of Ancient Free and Accepted Masons
    which is chartered under the provisions of a grand body of masons
    considered to have regular jurisdiction in the volunteer's
    geographical location.
    4) The arbitrators' panel reserves the right to verify this with the
    lodge secretary of the volunteer by means of telephone, snail
    mail, fax, or computerized message.
    5) Moderators may not serve as Arbitrators.
    6) Moderators may ban a participant if a participant attempts to
    violate editorial policy three or more times. In order to do this
    the moderators need to establish a simple majority quorum with a
    simple majority vote.
    7) A moderator may be impeached and removed by the arbitrators. The
    arbitrators need to show cause, establish a unanimous quorum with
    a simple majority vote to do this. In events of legal charge a
    single arbitrator may suspend a moderator for a period not
    exceeding one month in order to facilitate a investigation.

    Amendments:

    Any part of this charter may be amended or the charter may be added to
    by a 2/3 quorum with a 2/3 majority vote of all officers which is
    defined as the arbitrators and moderators.

    END CHARTER.

    HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

    moderated group soc.org.freemasonry passes 171:56

    There were 171 YES votes and 56 NO votes, for a total of 227 valid
    votes. There were 5 abstains and 5 invalid ballots.

    For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES
    and NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO
    votes.

    Voting ended at 23:59:59 UTC, 20 Jun 1997.

    This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.

    The group was created shortly afterwards, and continued activity until
    December of 2012, after which no further approved articles appeared.

    PROPONENT: Paul W. Schleck <pschleck@novia.net>

    CHANGE HISTORY:

    3 January 2015: Moderator Vacancy Investigation
    18 January 2015: 1st RFD (remove)
    5 February 2015: LCC

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  • From board@board@big-8.org (Big 8 Management Board) to news.announce.newgroups,news.groups.proposals,soc.org.freemasonry on Sat Feb 21 20:14:06 2015
    From Newsgroup: news.announce.newgroups

    RESULT
    soc.org.freemasonry will be removed

    The Last Call for Comments (LCC) on 5 February 2015 initiated a five-day
    period for final comments. Following this comment period, the Big 8
    Management Board has decided by consensus to remove the group soc.org.freemasonry.

    RATIONALE FOR REMOVAL:
    Probe posts to this group result in bounces:

    <soc-org-freemasonry@moderators.isc.org>: host
    moderators.individual.net[130.133.4.7] said: 550-Callout verification
    failed: 550-550 5.1.1 <sof@mail.cybermango.org>: Recipient address
    rejected: 550 User unknown in local recipient table (in reply to RCPT TO
    command)

    The last article approved by the moderators, with Message ID <004f195b-0f15-4c81-818a-99cb524d7d6a@googlegroups.com>, appeared in
    December of 2012, over two years ago.

    One of the last articles posted to the newsgroup, in March of 2012, was
    from moderator Alan Schwartz, with Message ID <lsSdnZX80NVkNPvSnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@supernews.com>, announcing that the
    members of the moderation team were planning to quit moderating the
    newsgroup. Volunteers were solicited to take over the moderation of the newsgroup. The possibility of a Moderator Vacancy Investigation was
    also mentioned.

    DISCUSSION SO FAR:

    There here has been no discussion of the merits of the group and no
    posts in support of retaining it or opposed to removal.

    DISTRIBUTION:
    news.announce.newgroups
    news.groups.proposals
    soc.org.freemasonry

    NEWSGROUPS LINE:
    soc.org.freemasonry Discussion group for the Fraternity "Freemasonry". (Moderated)

    CHARTER:

    The purpose of this newsgroup is to provide a world wide Usenet forum
    for the discussion of Freemasonry, the oldest fraternity in the world
    with a membership of over five million world-wide which derive their
    charters from Grand Lodges on their continent.

    The newsgroup is not a vehicle for official pronouncements for any
    Masonic body, but a means to facilitate the interaction and promote
    the brotherhood of members of Masonic bodies.

    The newsgroup is meant to supplement, not replace, any already
    existing Internet or Usenet or newsgroup system devoted to members of Freemasonry.

    The purpose of the panel of arbitrators is to supervise the panel of
    moderators and facilitate any concerns the readers may have with the moderation.

    The purpose of the panel of moderators is to supervise and manage the
    Usenet newsgroup for Freemasonry, in order to provide a reasonable
    and responsible forum for discussion about and news for freemasonry.

    The following are the editorial policies:

    General Usenet "netiquette" guidelines as posted in
    news.announce.newusers and news.answers shall apply to this news
    group. In particular, participants are asked to show courtesy and
    respect for other participants, and to avoid the use of offensive
    language, excessive quoting, or long (defined as "over four lines")
    signature blocks. Participants are encouraged to use descriptive
    subjects. Examples are "New York Metro area:I seek sponsorship into a
    lodge," rather than "Help me join;" "Royal Arch Questions on
    Traditional Bible Passages," rather than "Royal Arch questions;"
    "Should felons be allowed to join," rather than "a question on Masonic qualifications."

    The following posts are strictly prohibited in this newsgroup:

    + Posts consisting of copyrighted materials, except portions used
    under fair quote provisions of copyright law
    + Excessively long posts (over 25kB.)
    + Messages cross posted to other newsgroups.
    + Material unrelated to Speculative Masonry (off topic).
    + Make money fast or other chain or fraudulent schemes or
    anything else defined as an illegal communication by majority of
    the governments where Usenet carries this news group.
    + Work at home or other off-topic scams.
    + Commercial advertisements, infomercials, or announcements with
    the exception of one-line pointers to off-newsgroup cyberspace of
    interest to Freemasons.
    + Binaries or other encoded/encrypted material.
    + Posts in a language the moderators cannot read. For the most
    part posts should be limited to English, however posts containing
    a language other than English with English translation are the
    exception to this rule.
    + Forged posts (anonymous posts allowed.)
    + Personal insults or written attacks on specific Masons or
    Masons in general.
    + Personal insults or written attacks upon anyone and/or any
    organization.

    Responsible criticisms are welcome. E.g., "all you masons are a bunch
    of lying, devil-worshipping fools." is not allowed. "According to
    book (title, author, publication year) your ritual is identical to the
    ritual of organized satanist's (particularly :x,y,z). Since I find
    this book to be credible I believe your fraternity to be
    misrepresenting itself," is allowed.

    The following posts are allowed, but not encouraged.

    + "Classified" style ads with descriptive subject.
    Examples are "WTB:Masonic memorabilia related to the freeing of
    debt of the NYGL building in Manhattan," or "FS:second-hand books
    on masonry," or "WTB:tobacco pipe with Masonic design."

    + Moderators will use their discretion concerning posts that may
    contain Masonic secrets. Posts purporting to reveal Masonic
    secrets will be rejected outright, regardless of whether or not
    the fact of revelation of secrets be explicit or implied.

    ARBITRATION/MODERATION POLICIES

    Arbitration Structure/Procedures:

    1) There will be a panel of three arbitrators to provide checks
    against the moderators.
    2) Arbitrators may not serve as moderators.
    3) In the event between a dispute of moderators, or in the event of
    moderators being accused of censorship by participants, a single
    arbitrator will collect all sides of the event and present it to
    the other two arbitrators. A simple majority vote will decide
    the issue. If an arbitrator's panel vote comes out against a
    moderator's actions, the arbitrators panel will remedy a
    participant's complaint by requiring the posting of the original
    article, however, this will not be construed as restricting the
    arbitrator's panel from pursuing other remedies as it sees fit.
    4) Quorum shall be the entirety of the panel of arbitrators.
    Physical presence will not be required to vote, electronic
    delivery of vote is acceptable for all purposes.
    5) An arbitrator may be impeached and removed by moderators.
    In order to do this the moderators will need to establish a
    2/3 quorum and a 2/3 majority vote.
    6) To qualify to be an arbitrator, a person must be a Mason in good
    standing with his lodge which is defined as a lodge of Free and
    Accepted Masons or a lodge of Ancient Free and Accepted Masons
    which is chartered under the provisions of a grand body of masons
    considered to have regular jurisdiction in the volunteer's
    geographical location.

    Moderation Structure/Procedures:

    1) There will always be a minimum of two moderators in case illness
    or absence of one moderator.
    2) Prior to becoming a moderator, the moderator agrees to abide by
    the rulings of the arbitrators' panel.
    3) To qualify to be a moderator, a person must be a Mason in good
    standing with his lodge which is defined as a lodge of Free and
    Accepted Masons or a lodge of Ancient Free and Accepted Masons
    which is chartered under the provisions of a grand body of masons
    considered to have regular jurisdiction in the volunteer's
    geographical location.
    4) The arbitrators' panel reserves the right to verify this with the
    lodge secretary of the volunteer by means of telephone, snail
    mail, fax, or computerized message.
    5) Moderators may not serve as Arbitrators.
    6) Moderators may ban a participant if a participant attempts to
    violate editorial policy three or more times. In order to do this
    the moderators need to establish a simple majority quorum with a
    simple majority vote.
    7) A moderator may be impeached and removed by the arbitrators. The
    arbitrators need to show cause, establish a unanimous quorum with
    a simple majority vote to do this. In events of legal charge a
    single arbitrator may suspend a moderator for a period not
    exceeding one month in order to facilitate a investigation.

    Amendments:

    Any part of this charter may be amended or the charter may be added to
    by a 2/3 quorum with a 2/3 majority vote of all officers which is
    defined as the arbitrators and moderators.

    END CHARTER.

    HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

    moderated group soc.org.freemasonry passes 171:56

    There were 171 YES votes and 56 NO votes, for a total of 227 valid
    votes. There were 5 abstains and 5 invalid ballots.

    For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES
    and NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO
    votes.

    Voting ended at 23:59:59 UTC, 20 Jun 1997.

    This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.

    The group was created shortly afterwards, and continued activity until
    December of 2012, after which no further approved articles appeared.

    PROPONENT: Paul W. Schleck <pschleck@novia.net>

    CHANGE HISTORY:

    3 January 2015: Moderator Vacancy Investigation
    18 January 2015: 1st RFD (remove)
    5 February 2015: LCC
    21 February 2015: RESULT - group will be removed

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